Edrum News: Roland SPD-SX PRO and RTOM BH Triggers

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Today in electronic drum news, Roland finally releases an all new successor to their 2011 sample pad, and RTOM gets into the trigger market.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:13 SPD-SX Pro
7:47 RTOM

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@ableton_live_well Жыл бұрын

Justin says it exactly right, there’s different bits of gear for different drummers. For me, as someone needing to use a small rig as possible, the SX Pro now combining the importing of samples and having a hi hat control to play it as a portable kit is the game changer I’ve been longing for. My current set up is exactly as Justin said with both the SX and Octapad to get both functions. It could potentially even replace the handsonic as it’s sensitive enough for hand triggering! Potentially merging the best bits of all 3 of those pieces of hardware into 1 was something I’d never thought Roland would do, but looks like I was wrong. For me, when considering all of that, the PRO name and the price tag is completely justified

@cresshead Жыл бұрын

looking forward to a Roland SPD-SX PRO VS alesis strike multi pad video :)

@jackhammer_au9961 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Justin! Great review! Gonna start saving up coin for this. This is a massive improvement over the previous SPD SX.

@tmesa Жыл бұрын

Another great video Justin, SPD SX Pro and R tom triggers. Nice.

@MesaMXR Жыл бұрын

And now for Yamaha to release a follow-up to the DTX Multi-12 with DTX-Pro sounds. I will pay whatever it costs the minute it's released.

@justasomeone8403 Жыл бұрын

Yes a Yamaha DTX Multi-12 Pro and Pro-X would be great

@cresshead Жыл бұрын

i have a yamaha multi 12, and whilst it's cool it's also an OLD design/tech spec would be nice to have sampling, sequencer, a big display etc.

@hechogamermx4812 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the news

@SydneyDrums Жыл бұрын

This is great for professionals on stage.. It’s also a fantastic option for a smaller electronic kit being more portable for quick rehearsals and jamming. I’d love to see Justin make a kit with the possibilities of all of those extra inputs plus the hihat input.. & using the RTom heads & triggers 👍🏼

@salthedrummer1 Жыл бұрын

Man you're the best. Once again great job my friend...

@nonsuch Жыл бұрын

They just keep getting better and better as they should. Personally, for my intents and purposes... I still have the silver SPD-S on the side of my Roland kit and I really haven't felt the need to upgrade. I only have a few percussion sound sets I use.

@BrianSladek Жыл бұрын

Great Breakdown

@Kreln1221 Жыл бұрын

*Great review! As the SPD-30 Octapad is now getting a bit long in the tooth, it would be nice if Roland came out with an updated version, perhaps called the **_SPD-40,_** using more of the technology from the V-Drum line of modules, though I wouldn't expect V-Pad mesh designs for the internal triggers. They could even include four extra narrow bar triggers along the top ridge, like the three included with the SPD-S/SX sampler units, though it should then be called something like the **_Dodecapad,_** instead the **_Octapad,_** as it would then have twelve internal pads instead of only eight...* 🤔

@jettsom 7 ай бұрын

I'm building a hybrid kit (acoustic/edrum) and this is perfect right now as space saver!

@user-bo7np6rn4v Ай бұрын

Your channel is awesome

@NigelMarston 3 ай бұрын

The fact that the "pro" can support the HH foot switch is why it's on my Christmas list. I would like to be able to use the SPD-SX with a couple of foot switches for bass and HH for a super minimalist drumkit. Honestly that's the only reason I need the "pro" over the normal SPD-SX though. It's shame the normal one doesn't support the HH switch. I also looked at the Octapad but I really like the bar triggers that wrap over the top of the SPD-SX and I've limited space to mount a multipad on my kit - the Octapad is a little too wide.

@ArgonautDrums Жыл бұрын

Those rtom triggers seem very similar to the pintech RS5 triggers; even priced the same. I like the rtoms quick clip on design better than the pintech's lug mount, but worry they'd fly off easier.

@rogerwhitsettdrummer2922 Жыл бұрын

I purchased the SPD-SX PRO sample pad. It is light years ahead of my SPD-SX se sample pad!!!

@RulgertGhostalker 8 ай бұрын

for those exclusively playing gum rubber e-pads: ( i have made a break though years ago ) get heavy hickory marching band sticks, about 0.720" diameter, and Cut them down to one foot in length ( leaving the tip end alone of course ) the larger tip spreads out the energy and gets more rubber involved in the rebound; that, and the weight is similar to a rock stick, but with less pivotal inertia.....try it.

@KitCatStudio Жыл бұрын

Hey Justin Tnx for the update, always the best. I’ve been waiting a long time for Roland to make this machine for many reasons most of them are mentioned in the video. What did you mean by “many drummers were using the spd ax with a drum module”? I’ve been trying to hack this machine (the now old spd sx) in any way , mostly in terms of more outputs and so on. would love to hear a way around it that I haven’t seen before!

@aaronsparks9012 Жыл бұрын

I like how Roland just teased there audience with the newer SPD Pro and said not so fast guys were actually raising the bar with this machine and were just getting started and that it has way more technology than the Alesis but then again what will Alesis come out with next this is getting interesting really quickly nice review Justin thanks.🤪🤔

@TheLordcasio Жыл бұрын

You teased it with "it looks similar to..." but I would appreciate a one-to-one comparison to the Alesis Strike Pad Pro (or whatever it's called). Maybe save it until you get both units in for review. Thanks for teaching us so much about the drum scene.

@arbogast4950 Жыл бұрын

I own the Strike Multipad and it's okay but the hi hat support sucks, and there's no sample editing software app. I'll be selling my Alesis.

@gdnrecords Жыл бұрын

Hey Justin is so nice to see your videos honestly very helpful, This triggers you recommend I can feel are the perfecto solution for me I use an Acoustic Drum with Evans mesh heads but could you please recommend me a not to expensive Trigger controller to trigger the sounds of Toontrack's EzDrummer, hoping I could reach your advice and wishing you the best receive a BIG Hug from Mexico City, Best regards.

@louisvarga7282 Жыл бұрын

Justin, buy an extra RTOM trigger and a splitter. Gaf tape it to the body of your snarre.......instant rim shot capability.

@Materialgirllive Жыл бұрын

You should do a comparison between the Alesis Strike Pad vs the Roland Pro. As I am sure the Roland will be twice the cost.

@BecomingProductions Жыл бұрын

Price announced and yep it does cost twice as much for basically the same thing.

@ableton_live_well Жыл бұрын

@@BecomingProductions with respect, if you think they do the same thing, you need to dive deeper into what the PRO does compared to the strike, and what it could potentially replace in Roland’s own pad line up.

@BecomingProductions Жыл бұрын

@@ableton_live_well I don't care about what it replaces in Roland's lineup. My point is comparing its features against the 4 year old Alesis Strike Multipad. I'm not seeing anything it does that the Alesis couldn't already do, what am I missing?

@ableton_live_well Жыл бұрын

@@BecomingProductions I’d recommend watching Justin’s video comparing the SX to the Strikepad kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qLtme8Z-t7mrqKs.html there was a fair amount of difference already, then watch comparisons between the SX and SX PRO. Roland has a great one. You’ll see there is so much difference in functionality. Whether they make it worth for you and what you need is an entirely different conversation. But that’s how to answer your question of what the differences are.

@cadenceangel Жыл бұрын

The Pro s Hi-hat input alone is worth the price over the Multistrike. I bought the Alesis Strike Multipad to build a mini kit. And every external pad works perfectly except the hi-hat. Well, come on Alesis, the hi hat is an essential part of any drum kit. Ekit or not. Alesis lack of support of the Multpad stinks. I ll be selling my Strike Multipad. I am curious if loops n imported samples on the Pro can be slowed down or sped up live. Cause that, imo, was another miss on Alexis s part.

@artnelsoncreative Жыл бұрын

Can you do a tutorial integrating with something like the vad506 with the SP SX? Thanks.

@marcotoscano4692 Жыл бұрын

SPD-SX has 2 effect control knobs and 4 quick effect select buttons, this PRO version only one Master FX knob and only one effect on / off button. Why? How do you quickly select the different effects?

@seanbrucemedia5695 Жыл бұрын

Does the SPD SX Pro do proper sample time-stretching to adapt to tempo changes?

@EasyHeat Жыл бұрын

I typically play a 4 piece configuration (1x mounted tom, 1x floor tom, kick, & snare). Hypothetically, wouldn't it be possible to simply mount a second single trigger inside the snare and use dual mono to TRS splitter cable? Currently triggering EZD2/Slate/ML Drum via an Alesis midi trigger I/O. Thanks Justin! Cheers.

@sica4873 Жыл бұрын

Those triggers work pretty well with the black hole. I’ve managed to use Roland triggers, but they keep falling off at some point. The BH triggers stay and never move. I’m still having issues with the kick drum, don’t know why. Still, a great product for the price of one Roland trigger.

@zakkmarks6040 Жыл бұрын

I literally JUST bought an SPD-SX about a month ago. Smh. Should've known it would be just my luck! 😂

@jimbotran214 Жыл бұрын

Hi Can one change the tempo for the organized loop as desired

@paradiddle16 Жыл бұрын

Damn, yesterday I was thinking about when a new spd-sx was coming and now bam!!!! Thanks Justing for the heads up!

@Mutts1979 Жыл бұрын

So can you use those triggers on a mesh head on a base drum ?

@filodrum1979 Жыл бұрын

Hi there, do the triggers work on a regular drum head or different brand of mash heads, too? I would like to apply those ones on my Pearl traveller kit as well.. Please let me know. Thank you

@MarSin Жыл бұрын

Please do review in comparison to Alesis module versus SPDX pro!

@nikolasantonitsis1449 Жыл бұрын

Justin I want to ask a question/video idea. Can you take let's say the Roland vad 301 or a acoustic like kit and change the heads, tune it . If you do these will it sound like a acoustic kit or you can try it on a snare. Will these changes make it sound acoustic or will it still be a electronic pad

@wirenutz7869 Жыл бұрын

Rim trigger and snare trigger would vibrate together ?

@Rhythmic1 Жыл бұрын

Oh man, I kinda wish I hadn't sold my RTom heads now. I loved them but couldn't figure out how to use them with triggers. But I agree with you. They need a 2 zone trigger for sure. But as far as the new SPD-SX Pro is concerned all I can say is WOW. Very cool. I'm going to use a hybrid setup with my new band when we start playing out in the next month or two and I could actually get a lot of use out of all those new features. The lack of inputs and outputs on the last model had been holding me back. I could definitely use a customizable metronome, and backing tracks and sound samples from our recordings would be great too. Unfortunately, I get lost in the tech side of all this great gear. Still I have a virtually unused Yamaha EAD but now I'm thinking maybe sell it and get this to replace it.

@65Drums Жыл бұрын

what did you think about the feel of the Rtom pads? to me they felt a little thin and springy. But I haven't played one in awhile

@Rhythmic1 Жыл бұрын

I haven't played them for awhile myself so I don’t actually remember. I do however remember really liking them for the aforementioned reasons. But at the time I had never played on anything other than mylar heads (sometimes hybrid with ddrum and Roland triggers) and a little Yamaha DTX 532 I occasionally used for tracking and learning arrangements (still love the silicon head btw). So I really didn’t have anything to compare them to back then and was happy with what I got. It was a lot better than the tiny rubber tom pads and wobbly little kick pad on the Yamaha by leaps and bounds. They do have a tensioning system but I can’t remember if that did much either and again I was plenty happy with them anyway. It’s a long story but I didn’t use them too much because shortly after I got them I made a decision to go all in on electronic drums instead and pieced together what is essentially a TD-50KVX by starting with the digital pack Roland used to sell. That was the point at which I was trying to figure out if I could put triggers on them or not. But there was no information I could find on that so I went with a set of PD-125 pads and a converted bass drum instead. Afterwards they sat on my shelf until I sold them a year or two ago.

@tomattah_ Жыл бұрын

04:09 - could you share what hardware (stands, clamps and pads) you are using to get this set-up, please?

@alex.drums.cars33 Жыл бұрын

What do you think about the new Millenium MPS 1000? Is it a better deal and can it compete with other brands?

@4davegr Жыл бұрын

I’ve had a few of Roland’s trigger pads in the past spds-s , spd 30 ect. but had to sell them for one big reason. the zones within each pad were not sensitive evenly within the square. IE a direct center hit would always trigger, but a hit closer to an edge might not register a strike at all. ( my prehistoric Drumkat Dk10 with its FSR SENSORS will respond evenly from center to edge). Roland claims more accurate triggering on the new “pro” version. Has the uneven triggering problem finally been solved? thanks

@renzovargas1025 Жыл бұрын

Hi my name is Renzo, I just bought the new Roland spd sx pro, but I don’t know how to connect the Roland dual RT 30 HR trigger, also I can’t find the full 202 page manuel in English , is only in Portuguese, Thanks for your time hope I can get it working soon

@n9ne- Жыл бұрын

regarding minute 4:01 , does the spdsx pro have dynamically sound reaction? So if u hit harder, the sound will be more "louder" ?

@NVTdrums Жыл бұрын

08:10 watching a felt beater on a mesh head is like hearing nails on a chalkboard

@Brendon_yup Жыл бұрын

Hey, this probably isn’t the place for this question but I was hoping you tell me what the output voltage on the Roland Vdrum PD-85 is? I’ve been using it to trigger my Moog DFAM (turning it into a oneshot pad that I can play with sticks) I believe the trigger tolerance on the DFAM is 10v..

@CanadianTexaninLiguria Жыл бұрын

Where did the Alesis Strike Module disappear too?

@purevanillacookie9977 Жыл бұрын

The Roland TD27KV2 and VAD504 and VAD507 are out Edit: and also the TD17KVX2 , TD17KV2 and VAD307

@budspencer7540 9 ай бұрын

can the SPD-SX PRO create / play live loops like the Alesis strike multi pad or only play loops after you have recorded them?

@danieldeejjohndrums Жыл бұрын

Can you use Yamaha triggers with the spdsx pro ?

@antwanfilikian128 Жыл бұрын

This set up is a good problem solver, you can use it as a quiet practice Kit, or stick a Trigger and WALLAH You have a fairly good e Drum.

@alancalvitti Жыл бұрын

sx > external psu barrel dc - pro or prosumer?

@4721able Жыл бұрын

Hello Justin,I have the Roland V-drums TD-50KV2set with the 14-inch 14 digital hi-hat.For a DAW I use Pro tools and Superior 3.I've not been able to use the Hat with all of it's capability do you know any one that has .I would gladly pay for anyones help with that issue.

@matthewtickel845 Жыл бұрын

Still couldn't put the phones output on the front?

@djashjones Жыл бұрын

Does this mean there is going to be a new Octapad soon? maybe with DW drum samples?

@ableton_live_well Жыл бұрын

I also wondered this! The PRO kind of makes it obsolete now in my opinion.

@lamWEBER Жыл бұрын

Why is the spd-sx (2011) still so expensive!?

@user-bo7np6rn4v Ай бұрын

What do you think of nord pads

@65Drums Ай бұрын

I like them, very solid. Just don't see them very often

@justinknauer8137 Жыл бұрын

Does it send clock out over midi now?

@65Drums Жыл бұрын

that's a good question, and I don't know yet

@georgedeguerre Жыл бұрын

Do the SPD-SX PRO's sounds (at least on the preset kits) react dynamically like the SPD-30 or are they still one shot samples?

@ableton_live_well Жыл бұрын

I’d like to know this too! On demos it seems to be the case, probably because they’re taking the same tech from drum modules synthesiser engines. So I live in hope! But it is just a guess. Sensitivity has definitely been improved if you can trigger/play with your hands.

@georgedeguerre Жыл бұрын

@@ableton_live_well Yep, that's what I'm hoping too! I'm planning to use the SPD-SX PRO as my entire drum setup live and I need the dynamic response. Weird that this info isn't available from Roland.

@65Drums Жыл бұрын

I would bet money it's still one shot samples, a / b layers

@georgedeguerre Жыл бұрын

@@65Drums Thanks for answering! Yeah, I've listened to a couple of demos now and I'm inclined to agree. Looks like I need an SPD-30 after all!

@jet7327 Жыл бұрын

After owning the SPD-SX and SPD-30 and the Alesis Strike MultiPad Percussion Pad, it looks like Roland is applying a "look " and function similar the the Alesis. The problem I have is it would have been better to incorporate the functions of the SPD-SX Pro and apply it to the layout of the SPD-30. I'd rather have the controls to the side of the kit , so you could play a full drumset on the SPD-30 without smacking the control panel, which is now , even larger on the Pro than the older SX. Oh well...

@musiqsoundsproductions Жыл бұрын

So the sequence option is now next level? Something that Kat and Yamaha did years ago. That is an Apple move right there 😂

@65Drums Жыл бұрын

no one said it was a new feature lol, just new to this product line that didn't focus on that before. Kat doesn't have sample import at all, they are only midi controllers. And Yamaha has a tinny tinny built in memory allotment. Though I love that they have more zones and offer a cheaper overall package

@ironblast5 Жыл бұрын

32 gigs is not very large if you'd want run backing tracks I used up 16 gigs on my iPad doing 13 songs if I wanted to change our setlist I had to wipe it and upload the new tracks

@stevenmcnair1897 Жыл бұрын

WHY THE **** IS IT STILL ONLY max 16-BIT? That's the main thing I wanted changed :( Backing tracks dont sound really great on good big systems. Try it, Put in your 24-to-16 bit track and hear the difference playing back from a computer then the (Old) SPDsx. maybe the converters are just bad, but maybe It needed 24 bit, its just annoying now when EVERYTHING else is.

@16LiveRecords Жыл бұрын

If the sx pro built quality of IO port is same as sx, so it's expensive crap. I am dissapointed for years by fixing and replacing IO plugs day before show. Especialy for headphones 😤

@nickfowler8031 Жыл бұрын

Justin there’s new e drums from Roland go check it out and make another edrum news

@65Drums Жыл бұрын

Took me a bit, but I got the video done and it's live now :)

@nickfowler8031 Жыл бұрын

great at less you got it

@hishamdahud Жыл бұрын

Looks great, but let's be honest: Roland is about 5 years late on this. The SPD-SX was in desperate need of an update for years... during which point, Alesis came out with the Strike MultiPad and... well, looks like Roland copied someone's homework. 😬

@delbraga66 Жыл бұрын

True

@ableton_live_well Жыл бұрын

I find this argument hilarious to be honest. The strike pad copied the SPD and put more modern tech in it. And that’s exactly what Roland have now done to update their product. Who has really copied who? And the SX Pro will had so much more functionality than the Strike. There are other SX clones out there too, other companies knew what the industry standard was and the reasons why it was! People need to stop hating Roland just cus it’s the trend to.

@hishamdahud Жыл бұрын

@@ableton_live_well It's trendy to hate Roland? Silly, considering they make so much great stuff! I own a TD30-KV, TR8-S, SPD-SX, A88, among others. I'm by no means knocking Roland, and I'm sure this PRO model is going to be excellent, but let's remain objective. They've not innovated here as their marketing would suggest. They've iterated where the Alesis broke ground with the Strike MultiPad. I know this because I own BOTH a Strike MultiPad and SPD-SX. And the difference was jarring. At the end of the day, buy what makes you happy and helps you make great music... brand loyalty aside.

@hishamdahud Жыл бұрын

@Derek xPaPaDx Frampton I own both a SPD-SX and Strike MultiPad... and that Alesis has been holding up pretty damn well after tons of abuse!

@spasevrp Жыл бұрын

I totally agree. It doesn’t matter how late Roland arrives to the party they stun the market and audience each and every time! Can’t imagine what they will come up with now they have DW on board!