Wow thank you ❤

I’ve listened to it dozens of time. The text is printed in the biography of & tribute to Edinger : An American Jungian.

@@gphilipvirgil355 Thanks for this. I had just posted a question if anyone had an accurate transcription of this lecture to English closed caption.

Me too. I have listened to this over and over and over for 3 or 4 years and hand wrote all of it down. This is priceless and it makes me feel like who else is out there that reads all of this and gets it?

@@RebecaEigen I do and have wanted to connect with other kindred spirits online to share in the deep work of Jung and also discuss Edinger. This Is a deep and daily task and now my way of life and living. So grateful to Dr. Edinger now reading his Aion lectures that interestingly sometimes synchronistically align with my dreams and help me understand them. Deeply grateful for all that Jung left for us to explore.

@@michelleramauro8602 That's great! Yay! Have you listened to the Red Book Series? Highly recommend.

@@RebecaEigen I have listened to various Red Book lectures, is the series you mention by Dr. Edinger? I'm working my way to RB reader's edition. Inner guidance continues to lead the way!

@@michelleramauro8602 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zq6CpsqluJqao6s.html (start with Lecture 1)

Spiritual truth is simple :)

Edward Edinger helped me understand Carl Jung better than I in my analysis, though I never met him outside of his remarkable books. The weaving of mythology and history through our unconscious, relating to the breakdown of our psychic world in this century, is absolutely awe-inspiring. My years as a mythologist owe much to his work as they do life itself.

Understood Jung better than himself? Edward was very aware that he was nowhere near, the levels of understanding Jung had of the psyche, and so was his other students and friends. Nevertheless i think Edinger is one of the people with, the most insight into Jungs ideas, along with Von Franz.

@@avenger822 it really is. it involves leaving your mind open, not giving in to one system.....and studying them all objectively. (subjectively) only when understanding of different systems is established to a degree. and then comparing ALL of those religions and systems, African, eastern, and western. with Astrology/Psychology/Alchemy like Jung did......and you'll find the truth not just in spirituality But social. and environmental as well. it's quite marvelous. this whole thing is a large cycle that never stops and it expresses itself in Literally everything. through archetypal means.

@@danielm978 I like Edinger but I agree with you that he isn't as good as Jung. I occasionally get the icky sensation that Edinger goes by the mind in places where he should be led by intuition instead. His answer on the God vs god in the psyche, for instance. Saying that he knows nothing of the God of theologians or metaphysics seems to me like the sort of answer one gives when they try to stay inside the truth preached by the logic of consciousness. I am 100% sure Jung wouldn't have given this answer. Similarly, Edinger is making a clear cut distinction between external and internal events, in his Ego and Archetype book. Meanwhile, in all of his work, Jung acknowledges a mysterious connection between the psyche and external events, which is essentially at the base of the synchronicity construct. Otherwise, I agree Edinger understands Jung quite well and I would recommend his works to other people, but I would warn them before about the things I mentioned above.

For those of you that appreciate Joseph Campbell, you might enjoy Astral Doorway. I believe even Carl Jung would approve of this younger man's teachings. When in college 100 years ago I had friends exploring Spirituality. I was too chaotic then to grasp what they were learning. Now, after much self-work, I find that I appreciate how Gene, of Astral Doorway integrates psychology with meditation, religion and yoga. I have found no one that comes close to his clarity, on KZfaq. Life is clearly a Journey towards full Consciousness and Enlightenment.

"Here comes the Hoosier Goldmaker!" (Edinger heard this in a dream)

yes, one of the best lectures on Jungian psychology ever recorded, and will-ever be recorded, by the original legacy and transmission from Jung.

I know. I have heard it 4x at least. We are lucky to have this.

I am an orphan in a meaningless universe...it feels like that to me sometimes.

Absolutely true.

And forgiveness is the topic of A Course In Miracles

Jung led me to believe that mysterium conjunctionis is not only the structure of the psyche, but of the cosmos, and they are both reflected through the other. It's a reciprocal process. As Alan Watts says, you shine the sun just as it shines you. You are and are not the universe. The universe is and is not you. So is the nature of God and man.

According to Junguian ideas it must be an archertype opposite to Cupid. Why there are not many accounts of it?

thank you for introducing Von Franz to me!

Hm why does it feel like some game. The true Jungians vs the ones who are fake or don’t truly know? Can’t it just be that people are on the journey? Jung himself changed his mind on things and I’ve been told to avoid his earlier work

If the mind in the dream world produces the dream or symbol of wholeness, it's still up to the dreamer to discover the process of Individualism. It's very difficult, yet possible - it most likely will take most of one's lifetime. These dream symbols are unique to everyone and very difficult to unravel. Speaking from experience, btw.

I agree that his answers during the Q&A seemed less than adequate in many parts. For example, when being asked about "God" vs the god image in the human psyche, his response was simply, I do not know of a "God" (emphasis capital G). This sort of response signifies that Dr. Edinger himself while being such a great scholar of Jung still had much to learn about this process of individuation (as we all do). I also think that the collective consciousnesses during the past 40 years since this lecture was recorded has revealed to us many things about the world which may have not been apparent when this lecture was recorded. For that reason, I am grateful to have both contemporary understanding and such a thorough knowledge by this lecture from someone like Dr. Edinger.

Finally someone other than me, sees through **The JUngians**, Stringing together a bunch of intellectual concepts/rhetoric that makes something of value to the soul., No one on the planet is more critical of all things JUngISM/ISM/IST on the planet. Why?? If we are going to take Jung's ideas futher in this world, we must have the goods, no snakeoil, no blah blah blah. I had Ego Archetype decades ago,, its in the trash,, about to buy another copy, due to the fact alot of folks have read the book, so I need to update my criticisms as to why I am not a fan of anything Edinger. JungISM/IAN/IST is epedemic within all /every Jungian group/club/org. It stinks. Sure I have not yet finished my studies in Jung, so I have nothing to offer up YET,, I am working on it. Also sure glad you mentioned Von Franz,, I recognized her genius in Jung early on, have most of his books. Like you Von Franz represents the continuation of Jung's ideas, and reamins faithful to this spirit of seeking the lost wisdom of the soul. Jung's ideas have been distorted , misunderstood , as Jung predicted would take place after his passing. Sure there are a few interesting authrors of Jungian material, but mostly it is bad., Take James Hillman,, he was elected chief of the California school, I trashed all his books yrs ago. He has nothing to offer to us **JUngians** seeking further understanding. I might not repurchase Ego Archetype,, as I've listened to a fw of Edinger';s YT interviews and again, was very disappointed by his presentation of the subject. Sadly this book ranks high among **The Jungists** which proves we have not brought to consciousness as yet many of Jung;'s ideas. Listening to Von Franz, you know right away Marie has real life experiences of these mysterious concepts/truths. vs Edinger and many other **Jungists** authrors,, its alot of head knowledge, but lacks what we are all after, the bringing forth from life these ideas and making them contextually real as it relates to past/present/future planet earth. We are in WW3 , we should speak as if it is the end of the world,,, not play around w concepts which actually lead us into darkness.

He is not referring to ones taste in music, rather personality traits and opinion of same. It is not a matter of identifying the evil "OUT THERE" but seeing it in ones own psyche.

Tim MacAskill oh OK! that helps a lot. So you might hate cruelty or love honour. But beauty is not a personality trait.

Exactly, we can find beauty, in rust on a lamp post, and quite easily in Strauss or Renee Fleming. The movie 'American Beauty' has a lesson in it related to how we see this world. I hate cruelty and I love honour too; the challenge is to see, if in any way, we are cruel to ourselves or each other or lack honour in our dealings with our individual worlds.

He is talking about characteristics and qualities in the psyche. Read my article Understanding Your Own Shadow on my web site.

@@timmacaskill2470 I don't exactly agree with you. One's taste in music can also reflect to you aspects about yourself. One obvious example in a song is the lyrics, which perhaps you did not pay attention to, but actually are an unconscious reason as to why that song keeps on playing in your head. Or even if it's just the melody of the song, it can reflect a melancholy or a state of your unconscious. You might like one particular voice because it remembers you of someone. Of course, sometimes you just like it, no reason other than an aesthetic one. But what I am trying to say is not to be quick to dismiss the possibility of finding things about yourself in places you have never thought of.

That is an insanely good question.

@@danielm978 right, because I think that's precisely what she was attempting to do: give us a well-explicated myth to organize our culture around. Unfortunately her efforts were not well-received by a culture already steeped in the misguided maxims of Cultural Marxism.

Good question

not well at all

Ayn Rand does not strike me as a particularly good author. Although, I know of several people who adore her works. It is an interesting question though and would prompt a good topic for discussion.

Alchemy? Not a long word, yet it's all that comes to mind.

Enantiodromia

Enantiodromia refers to a thing transforming into its opposite. The conjunctio is a symbol used in alchemy which refers to the culmination of two opposites coming together as a result of a third stage of synthesis.

Who can not love Nietzsche?❤ Who could not love C. J. Jung? It is in our love and hates, are the opposite sides. I am the world and the world is me. Reflections of net increase consciousness. 500 hundred years. To influence others of like minds. Insights of pinocchio. Consciousness of wholeness, the world can become whole. Guilt. Good evil opposites carried in the other person. The growth of Islamic fundamentalism? A reglious phenomenon in the political arena. (Assanins.) Islamic tradition Christians fundamentalism, Jewish, Zioinsm is not being antisemitic. Fasicm and racisim are words of ignorance. What is conflict? What is the brain? What is thought? What is mind? What is intelligence? What is the difference between the intellect and intelligence? What is consciousness and subconscious? What are beliefs? What is perception ? What is awareness? What is insight? What is the unknowable? What is the intuition? What is imagination? What is an illusion? What is love? Whenever one discovers what love is not? The powers of Myths both dark and light entwined throughout out centuries. What does Elohim mean? Scholars with the understanding of Hebrew, Latin and old Greek. Heraclitus once stated that one cannot step in the same rivers twice, it flows. Truth, beauty, adventure and peace and love.

The myth of Western Society is only Fantasy, actualized into Materialism.

Considering Western society is comprised of central Europe and traditionally speaking, Russia--I do not think that the American Dream is the central living myth of Western Society. Rather, the West resides on a Jude-Christian substrate which has been around for much longer. The American dream emerged out of ideas which came from the enlightenment "Liberty, Freedom, Pursuit of happiness etc." Which spawned more deeply from the scientific revolution. Science emerged from Christianity for reasons I won't try to explain in this comment. But originally, the West traces back to our Jude-Christian roots nearly 2,000 years ago (longer if you take the Greeks into account). As Dr. Edinger discusses in this lecture, the God image fell out from the heavens around the 16th Century A.D. and has since transformed into its opposite (namely the legend of Faust which is meant to describe the Anti-Christ). We are now embarking on a particular moment in history which calls on a synthesis of the two previous modes of existence (Christ and Anti-Christ). This new era which is marked by the transition from our Nation State industrialism into Information society and individualism does not yet have a functional, living myth.

I disagree. It's not through philosophy; it's via self reflection and connecting the dots, perhaps using Jung's "memories dreams and refections."

The philosophy of language is a great way to hide from the reality of the psyche.