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5 жыл бұрын

Rohde & Schwarz were offended at the quality of the power supplies in the EEVblog lab, so sent in some "real" lab power supplies!
Unboxing and first look at the Rohde & Schwarz HMP4040, HMP2020, and NGE103 programmable lab power supplies.
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@movax20h
@movax20h 5 жыл бұрын
2430$ for HMP4040 and what you get back is actually VERY good price. Holly shit. I wish I would knew about it, because it would literally replace 3 or 4 other power supplies I have.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 5 жыл бұрын
Does seem good value. There are some comparisons with other brand PSUs: www.rohde-schwarz.com/brochure-datasheet/hmp/
@JakobWierzbowski
@JakobWierzbowski 4 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog Damn, I live like 10 min by foot from R&S and they don't send me stuff :D
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff 5 жыл бұрын
Wago 215-311 4mm spring-clamp plugs are a good cure for PSUs with no binding posts
@whatevernamegoeshere3644
@whatevernamegoeshere3644 Жыл бұрын
Woah that is awesome!
@RalphKoettlitz
@RalphKoettlitz 5 жыл бұрын
The color coding is of European style and standardized. The long posts are there to avoid an accidental contact with wires. The remaining question is, how fast the supplies are regulating and how much noise can be measured. The is especially important for automated testing. Since all of three them can be controlled by the LXI interface a it would be neat to control them via pyVISA instead of using Labview which is for casual usage too expensive.
@yodaco
@yodaco 5 жыл бұрын
whe you power up the NGE100 (time=13:10) the usb port moves inwards...sketchy
@l3p3
@l3p3 5 жыл бұрын
It's a feature.
@friedmule5403
@friedmule5403 5 жыл бұрын
Great observation! And at 18:37 you can also see that the screen is not of the best quality.
@rob28803
@rob28803 3 жыл бұрын
Change in lighting,it doesn’t move lol
@yodaco
@yodaco 3 жыл бұрын
@@rob28803 I went back and checked that again. I absolutely dispute that it doesn't move. It moves for sure.
@mynameisdaniil
@mynameisdaniil 5 жыл бұрын
Blue because it's minus. Not common. Not ground. Minus. To emphasize it's galvanic isolation.
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, makes sense. Ground would be green/yellow.
@johnalexander2349
@johnalexander2349 5 жыл бұрын
Black is minus. Blue is phase 3. And I use blue for polarity insensitive leads, like load resistors. Metrix uses it for current.
@TomStorey96
@TomStorey96 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnalexander2349 Some -48 VDC telco installations I have seen use red for -48 and blue for "return".
@johnalexander2349
@johnalexander2349 5 жыл бұрын
Most telco installations use blue for pair 1. My point is that blue is used for so many things, and so seldom used for "minus" that it just adds confusion. I think that every single DC device I've opened uses black for "minus". Why change now? If it's country specific, then they should change it before shipping weirdo colours to Australia (or South Africa).
@userPrehistoricman
@userPrehistoricman 5 жыл бұрын
EARTH would be green/yellow. Ground is different.
@pvc988
@pvc988 5 жыл бұрын
These license options… You paid 3000$ for a device, nice. It has all these nice features. It's in there, just pay us more.
@Leif_YT
@Leif_YT 5 жыл бұрын
They make great products, but I hope that the strategy to charge extra for connectivity features (about 200€ for the WiFi License Key) will change at some point.
@chris746568462
@chris746568462 5 жыл бұрын
They all do it. It really sucks. Just an easy money grab. Wonder if there is a crack for it like the Rigol ones. I have all the options on my scope and power supply :)
@Shonicheck
@Shonicheck 4 жыл бұрын
@@chris746568462 Well, considering that those things are not exactly mass product(in a sense that their volumes are quite low compared to your everyday tech) and since volumes are not tied to the cost of engendering costs they gotta keep the costs low somehow. Low-end users don't really care all that much about misc capabilities, it can be a nice touch, but it's not a deal breaker. High-end users mostly are not that picky about price(since most of the high end users are companies), therefore will go for a higher price just to get quality of life improvements. At least that's how i see that.
@Rob2
@Rob2 5 жыл бұрын
"Verify Power Line setting and Fuse" :-) They know Dave...
@johnblain417
@johnblain417 5 жыл бұрын
The 1st signature on the cal certificate on the 1st power supply looks more like a scope trace than a signature?
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 5 жыл бұрын
I thought that too!
@ArmandDuPreez
@ArmandDuPreez 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome supplies. Looking forward to the tear-down. Gut gespieltes Rohde & Schwarz.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 5 жыл бұрын
The video is up.
@boggisthecat
@boggisthecat 5 жыл бұрын
The user interface is a bit confusing. We have one of the larger supplies that comes in for calibration, and it took a while to figure out the most efficient way to run through the calibration using the manual controls.
@TIGER53501
@TIGER53501 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! I now have an HMP4040 at work, a great power supply! Especially like the FUSE function, it turns off the entire group of channels at once if there are problems on one, it saved the boards more than once!
@kevincozens6837
@kevincozens6837 5 жыл бұрын
I feel a little underwhelmed by these supplies. On the 4040 they appear to have room for small print to show set points and if the device is in CC or CV mode. instead of doing that on the display they are using different colour on the buttons to indicate the mode. I don't like that idea. I think it would be too easy to get the wrong limit mode. I'm also not overly impressed by the fact that the supplies aren't capable of full voltage and current output on the channels. It doesn't seem to allow full ouptut on one channel and derate when you start drawing power from other channels The front panel of the NGE says 0-32V at up to 3A. If you look more closely at the front panel it says a maximum of 32 watts per channel. If you need 3A out you can only get it at about 11V. Still, good on R&S for supplying you the supplies. I'm sure they will find a use despite some of their design limits/choices.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 5 жыл бұрын
Having a power limit per channel is normal, the transformer can only supply so much power for a given size. I'd rather have a supply that is capable of 10A at lower voltages only than say a 5A supply that only does 5A all the way to 32V. Derating like this is pretty normal.
@plemli
@plemli 5 жыл бұрын
With the 4 channels of the 4040 you can easily use them in parallel or series to reach the full power and/or higher voltages. There is always a tradeoff, and this one offers enough versatility for a lot of use cases. e.g. paralleling all 4 channels to charge 8 40Ah LiFePO4 cells in parallel to insure a balanced initial charge. Or 2 in series together with the arb to simulate a 54V PoE source, etc.
@kevincozens6837
@kevincozens6837 5 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog Derating is pretty common. It is more about how they derate. The limit on some supplies is based on the sum of the power being supplied by all the channels in operation. Some supplies, like the ones in this video, have a per channel limit. It is a trap for young players if they don't pay proper attention to the full specs for a supply. The mention of 32V and 3A on the front panel and could mislead someone in to thinking that one channel could supply 2A to their circuit which operates at 20V.
@Orbis92
@Orbis92 5 жыл бұрын
"Imaging having a big stack of these on your bench, wouldn't you kill for that" ....literary puts up a stack of R&S PSUs seconds later :|
@BillAnt
@BillAnt 5 жыл бұрын
I don't make enough in a year to pay for that stack, xD
@wpherigo1
@wpherigo1 5 жыл бұрын
That was a seriously fun video! Very jealous! A side by side comparison between those beauties and the cheaper power supplies you can get would be nice. Showing how to use remote control would be helpful - what is needed to do it, how do you control the power supply and what would be some of the applications of it. Thx!
@zurb0
@zurb0 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry... But seeing some "software" add-ons on systems at this price (more than 500$) is totally unjustified... Every brands have done this in 20XX... But please what is the engineering cost of this ? It's just a world trade decision and no more... I guess that's the world we live now 😕
@MrScram-ih5eg
@MrScram-ih5eg 5 жыл бұрын
Selling expensive options makes the base model cheaper for everyone. It's not as black and white as it seems.
@ronniepirtlejr2606
@ronniepirtlejr2606 4 жыл бұрын
Wow Dave beautiful addition to the lab! Big smiles! :-)
@bastelwastel8551
@bastelwastel8551 5 жыл бұрын
Oh vey, Rohde&Schwarz.. If you read this, i'm lacking of lab power supplies too. If you don't mind.. ;) i could offer you 0 viewers
@manosif
@manosif 5 жыл бұрын
Man, I'll help a brother out. I'll give you a view...
@CyberlightFG
@CyberlightFG 5 жыл бұрын
If you give me a new power supply, nobody would ever see it again.
@VintageTechFan
@VintageTechFan 5 жыл бұрын
@@manosif May I join in? We could have 2 views on each video then!
@Rohde-Schwarz
@Rohde-Schwarz 5 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid 2 views won't be enough, but keep collecting followers...
@bastelwastel8551
@bastelwastel8551 5 жыл бұрын
@@Rohde-Schwarz I already thought so ;)
@analogMensch
@analogMensch 2 жыл бұрын
For Rohde&Schwarz, the different colors (white=Set/off, green=CV,red=CC) is quite usual. Sometimes on the display, sometimes on the channel keys or LEDS. Also the blue color for the negative output terminal is really common, cause it's a floating output. Black is more used for COM connection.
@schnibbelwind91
@schnibbelwind91 5 жыл бұрын
Blue stands for 'Not grounded Negative‘ Black can be misleading. With blue you be sure.
@electronicsNmore
@electronicsNmore 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, nice gift! $5,000 bucks US.
@km5405
@km5405 5 жыл бұрын
nothing in life is free ;)
@uzaiyaro
@uzaiyaro 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t cost *them* 5 grand, though!
@MistahHeffo
@MistahHeffo 5 жыл бұрын
@@km5405 all it cost R&S for some great advertising to their target audience was 3 units, and all it cost Dave for 3 units was a couple of good honest review videos.
@PhillipRhodes
@PhillipRhodes 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'll bet the good publicity that R&S get from this is FAR more valuable than the cost of the equipment. Not to say that the R&S folks aren't kind and good people by nature (they probably are) but in pure economic terms, doing something like this is a win for R&S.
@MrFerisko
@MrFerisko 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they are well engineered and great built quality and all but honestly I feel like the user interfaces are lacking compared to offerings from AIM TTI (QL355, MX100). And even Siglent and Rigol seem to be able to make better use of the screen real estate. Also had a peek into the datasheet for the NGE's: ripple typ. < 1.5 mV (RMS) and < 20 mV (peak-to-peak) (meas.). Seems high-ish.
@MrScram-ih5eg
@MrScram-ih5eg 5 жыл бұрын
Those are probably very conservative specifications. The new Keysight supplies also have much better ripple than their specifications suggest.
@ElektronikLabor
@ElektronikLabor 5 жыл бұрын
I love that HMP supplies. At work we use the HMP 2030 supply since it was released and last year we ordered the HMP4040. It's easy to use and performs quite well
@krisiluttinen
@krisiluttinen 4 жыл бұрын
Ever had an issue with any of the channels? Mine shows channel 1 -0.500v and when I enable the channel it quickly goes to 0 on the display with no change in the -0.500v output. Any ideas what it can be wrong?
@chuckpatten7855
@chuckpatten7855 5 жыл бұрын
The calibration of new equipment depends upon the user's industry and regulatory authorities involved. It is very common for Aviation rules to require local calibration of newly acquired equipment.
@grabo454
@grabo454 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! You got quite a nice present for my birthday! I just got a Blue ESR tester today, quite the piece of kit! Can't wait to fix some stuff around the house.
@jameswyatt1304
@jameswyatt1304 5 жыл бұрын
So far out of my budget it hurts a little, but amazingly capable instruments. I'd love the ENet interface, but it's amazing to see IEEE488/HPIB that I used to use. 4 Isolated channels can be extremely handy when working with analog circuits. Great video of well-designed, full-featured, professional gear.
@mrgreenswelding2853
@mrgreenswelding2853 5 жыл бұрын
Did you say " nob in ya face?' Lol!!
@Gabriel-kz8ns
@Gabriel-kz8ns 5 жыл бұрын
Nice! I was giving a thought and I'm going to make an effort and accept all of those low-quality PS to my very small lab... I know... I know... it would be hard but I'm willing to do it... take one for the team!
@vincei4252
@vincei4252 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, all outputs on the 4040 have sense lines. Very nice!
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 5 жыл бұрын
4020 too, all in that series have it. Either direct from the from panel, or external.
@vincei4252
@vincei4252 5 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog Very, very, tempting. Is it my birthday yet ? :-)
@vincei4252
@vincei4252 5 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog I bought the 4040. Just got dropped off by UPS. Let R&S know that an impression on one of your videos garnered them a sale. I do have other R&S gear, though.
@southerncharity7928
@southerncharity7928 3 жыл бұрын
@@vincei4252 2 years later, how is it? :)
@vincei4252
@vincei4252 3 жыл бұрын
@@southerncharity7928 Still working great. If there's anything to complain about it's the almost $400 of the ethernet/USB card. Quite outrageous for something that should have been built in day one but whatcha gonna do.
@stevencotton6507
@stevencotton6507 5 жыл бұрын
I could do with a decent power supply for my radio shack. I need to be able to supply enough voltage to charge an AGM backup battery, and I'd prefer something that isn't switched so it doesn't mess up HF reception. Any good recommendations?
@magottyk
@magottyk 5 жыл бұрын
And all I have is this lousy $3 buck converter and a battery pack.
@DVSProductions
@DVSProductions 5 жыл бұрын
Would you say that it is a three buck buck converter?
@userPrehistoricman
@userPrehistoricman 5 жыл бұрын
But what does it turn the 3 bucks into?
@timmgiles
@timmgiles 5 жыл бұрын
Nice job R&S - lucky chap Dave. A tear down and review would be great.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 5 жыл бұрын
Teardown video was release just after this one.
@LucasHartmann
@LucasHartmann 5 жыл бұрын
NGE1xx is a low voltage power supply if you consider each channel separately, but you have 3 of them, so you can get to about 95V in series. Anything over 60V is considered high enough to require safety considerations. This would explain the shrouded posts and the missing metal plates, which I find quite a nice BTW.
@PIXscotland
@PIXscotland 5 жыл бұрын
Nice little bundle. I like the little one, the price is a bit higher than the Rigol's but still reasonable. Looking forward to a full review.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 5 жыл бұрын
Would it be fair to compare with the Rigol?
@DrakkarCalethiel
@DrakkarCalethiel 5 жыл бұрын
EEVblog Yeah, Rigol and Rohde&Schwarz are in an completely different ballpark IMO
@YeHlWeE
@YeHlWeE 5 жыл бұрын
The blue terminals are in germany a thing, for laboratory stuff.
@Gunhed507
@Gunhed507 4 жыл бұрын
it's a thing in europe not only germany.
@Sami.curiouslab
@Sami.curiouslab 5 жыл бұрын
It is actually very common here in europe to have blue instead of black for the output color
@StreuB1
@StreuB1 5 жыл бұрын
HOLY SHIT!!!!! Big up to R&S for stepping up to the plate and doing what they did!! The new lab should be outfitted with top gear and props to them for stepping in and helping out. Great to see companies jumping in and doing things like that. So many people out here benefit from these videos and while this is nothing to sneeze at (those PSU's are NOT cheap!!!). Its great marketing for them but it's also making sure that great educational content is hitting the net by making sure the best gear is being used. Just my opinion though.
@frogz
@frogz 5 жыл бұрын
HMP2020 has software option for 3rd channel, just enter the key
@maicod
@maicod 5 жыл бұрын
7:00 some current there flapping in the breeze :)
@Dee_Just_Dee
@Dee_Just_Dee 5 жыл бұрын
3:02 I've seen that strange packing method before, on stuff from TagMaster AB from Sweden. I think it's done just to reduce waste compared to completely covering each end of the product in foam.
@xenonram
@xenonram 5 жыл бұрын
You're shitting me. They didn't send you the ones with all the options? It wouldn't have cost them any more to enable the Wi-Fi. Why do the 2020 & 4040 have those physical power switches rather than one like the smaller supply has?
@WILDGEESE399
@WILDGEESE399 5 жыл бұрын
Christmas came early very nice keep up the good work
@ScienceBitch123
@ScienceBitch123 2 жыл бұрын
Any idea how to control the 4040 from a PC. There is a visual basic download from their website but can't get it to work
@Beater06
@Beater06 5 жыл бұрын
dont turn it on! Take it apart!
@TheCondoInRedondo
@TheCondoInRedondo 4 жыл бұрын
Pomona sells the exact binding post/banana plus adapters you're speaking of.
@lasersimonjohnson
@lasersimonjohnson 5 жыл бұрын
Dave, your other "crap" power supplies are still way better than the ones I have 🤣😂
@kevinowenburress2435
@kevinowenburress2435 5 жыл бұрын
yeah i was catching on fairly fast that 5 amps at 32 volts is the max wattage and you would have to use 16 volts for 10 amps.
@CATA20034
@CATA20034 5 жыл бұрын
Repared a few HMP2020, they are build quite decent. Failure was due to user, shorted the reverse protection diode from the connector side
@kanetw_
@kanetw_ 5 жыл бұрын
I have an HMC8043 and it's a really nice bench unit. I was considering an HMP2030 but it takes up much more space comparatively.
@decee1157
@decee1157 5 жыл бұрын
Man, i am jelly. I've been considering buying the HMC8043 because i got one at work and really love it but.. The price is just.. Expensive AF
@kanetw_
@kanetw_ 5 жыл бұрын
​@@decee1157 The satisfaction of owning a quality instrument is worth it, to me. That's why I have a maxed out RTB2004 too.
@akarshagarwal4516
@akarshagarwal4516 5 жыл бұрын
If anyone else also waited to see Dave stacking the HMP PSUs it happens at 26:00
@TheCondoInRedondo
@TheCondoInRedondo 4 жыл бұрын
You can parallel the channels, so the three-channel HMP2030 is actually just as good as the HMP2020, yet more flexible.
@Newberntrains
@Newberntrains 5 жыл бұрын
These were way to nice not to turn on before taking the screw driver to em RS did good on those pieces of equipment
@glenslick2774
@glenslick2774 5 жыл бұрын
Only single quadrant operation? No current sinking capability? I suppose not really a general purpose supply feature, but nice to have when you need it and something you get with HP/Agilent/Keysight 6631B/6632B/6633B/6634B/66332A supplies, for example.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 5 жыл бұрын
Single quadrant. If you need that then you buy a specific supply that has it.
@SidneyCritic
@SidneyCritic 5 жыл бұрын
With 9 PS channels, I will be sad if we don't get more physical demonstrations of electrical theory like the bypass cap vid.
@mirkomueller3412
@mirkomueller3412 5 жыл бұрын
At 13:11 when switching on the NGE100 the USB Port moves quite a lot. Hopefully this will not end up something breaking after a while due to stress movement on a wire or solder joint. At least this doesn't look trustworthy. Guess there ist room for improvement.
@Sharklops
@Sharklops 4 жыл бұрын
you'd think if they're sending these units out for review they'd go ahead and set them up fully-optioned. It costs them nothing extra and allows the reviewer to get a better impression of what the device is truly capable of. Maybe it's to not give the impression that the base configuration includes those options I guess.
@syarulnizammdsalleh2130
@syarulnizammdsalleh2130 11 ай бұрын
How to setting ip address with NI?
@mattgarland8001
@mattgarland8001 5 жыл бұрын
'Hinged Package' ... It's just the way they manufacture it surely? Looks like they just cut the hole out and fold it over to make a pre-attached end? Would it help in transit? Or hinder?
@AttilaTheHun333333
@AttilaTheHun333333 5 жыл бұрын
Why I know I have issues? Because the crooked power button bugged me the whole time.
@Mr_Meowingtons
@Mr_Meowingtons 5 жыл бұрын
And i am over here using LM317 and LM337 for a 20v-0-20v 1 amp supply... Still trying to score a good supply on E bay or craigslist..
@MeiklesAndDimes
@MeiklesAndDimes 5 жыл бұрын
Do a video on the design of the binding post adapter.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 5 жыл бұрын
It's pretty trivial!
@martin2048
@martin2048 5 жыл бұрын
any negative power supply for opamp testing??
@marcelhensen6847
@marcelhensen6847 5 жыл бұрын
You just connect positive and negative of two outputs, that's now your "ground." The remaining + and - terminals are your positive and negative supplies. That said, you can run any opamp on a single rail power supply, the opamp does not know what "negative" is. They almost never have a pin for ground.
@Michael-w8v
@Michael-w8v 5 жыл бұрын
I have heard about R&S and it is really good. I like their touchscreen oscilloscope.
@PlasmaHH
@PlasmaHH 5 жыл бұрын
In germany its quite common to use blue and red for low voltage DC stuff
@plemli
@plemli 5 жыл бұрын
I have had both an HMP2030 and an HMP4040 for several years. 2 channels of the HMP2030 are broken and BER. I replaced FETs and the controller in the switched pre-regulator which made them work for a month then they broke again. The HMP4040 is working fine, although the USB VCP serial port sometimes disappears until I reboot the PC. Driver problem probably. A nuisance since I often work remotely.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 5 жыл бұрын
What's the warranty?
@plemli
@plemli 5 жыл бұрын
I assume the standard EU warranty so 1y/2y but the unit broke past that. Quoted repair cost was 2/3 of new :-(
@niblismusic783
@niblismusic783 5 жыл бұрын
Rohde & Schwarz warranty usually is 3 years, at least in EU.
@plemli
@plemli 5 жыл бұрын
@@niblismusic783 You're right, it's 3 years. My 2030 was older at the point of failure.
@AhmedHan
@AhmedHan 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please name that infinitely rotatable big round button? 16:55
@CyberlightFG
@CyberlightFG 5 жыл бұрын
It's called rotary encoder maybe.
@wpherigo1
@wpherigo1 5 жыл бұрын
I wish they would be offended at the ones in my son's set-up!
@beneemoon7431
@beneemoon7431 5 жыл бұрын
I got those Sahran N labels in my box too!
@Moonwalker917
@Moonwalker917 5 жыл бұрын
Their cheapest power supply is twice as expensive as my whole bench setup. Well, most of my stuff was either given to me or built myself, the most pricy thing being a $200 TV7 tube tester but still, this video puts a big small of my face. Please make a video about what's inside, I'm really curious about the big expensive HMP4040 linear power supply.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 5 жыл бұрын
See the linked teardown video
@jacquesgilbert2774
@jacquesgilbert2774 5 жыл бұрын
I like R&S gear and love my RTB2K and HMC8012, but when I needed a beefy power supply, I found that TTi offered a better value - my MX180T can combine 2 of the 3 outputs internally to deliver 15V/20A or 30V/12A. It is as good (IMHO) a professional quality build with all the features and controls that you would expect and still "only" about $1K. Now, if R&S insists in sending me a couple of these to check, I could change my mind.
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 5 жыл бұрын
They have a comparison document with the TTi scdn.rohde-schwarz.com/ur/pws/dl_downloads/dl_common_library/dl_brochures_and_datasheets/pdf_1/HMP_vs_Aim-TTi_QL355TP_Comp_Sheet_5215-5959-32.pdf
@jacquesgilbert2774
@jacquesgilbert2774 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, and they picked a model that would not compare very well. All is fair in Love and Marketing Brochures ;-)
@TMS5100
@TMS5100 5 жыл бұрын
used test equipment is the way to go. picked up a R&S spectrum analyzer originally specced at $120,000 for $800. seems to be that the more expensive they are, the less value they retain.
@TheTruthSentMe
@TheTruthSentMe 5 жыл бұрын
In germany Red/Blue is even more common than Red/Black (from my experience). Or it indicates isolated channels. Black for common ground, blue for negative potential (independent of other blue connectors).
@jaycee1980
@jaycee1980 5 жыл бұрын
Nice packaging... gotta protect your knob! :D
@uzaiyaro
@uzaiyaro 5 жыл бұрын
And here I am with my DPS5030... but to be honest, I’m happy with it. Although I’m guessing switching noise will not make it suitable for all applications. But I’m still new to electronics so I’m sure I’ll find out when I smoke something.
@JurassicJenkins
@JurassicJenkins 2 жыл бұрын
The popsicle power supply 🤣. I have some Hameg late 80’s early 90’s bench gear. Happy with it 😎
@nulano
@nulano 5 жыл бұрын
11:25 That's actually the NGE103B (not NGE103), which costs 890 EUR.
@czarzenana5125
@czarzenana5125 5 жыл бұрын
I always read the manual first. People not doing that are annoying.
@Jimmeh_B
@Jimmeh_B 5 жыл бұрын
If all else fails.... read the destructions. :D
@dl8cy
@dl8cy 5 жыл бұрын
Funfact: Mr. Rohde & Mr. Schwarz were both ham radio operators :-)
@hrkaci
@hrkaci 5 жыл бұрын
And son old Mr Rohde , N1UL Ulrich Rohde is too :)
@PetrosArgy
@PetrosArgy 5 жыл бұрын
That's beautiful gear!
@TheDefpom
@TheDefpom 5 жыл бұрын
I’m so jealous, have a word with R&S please and tell them I need to replace my Korad supply with a decent one... I recken I could manage to cobble together a video or two.. Good on R&S for being so generous and sending you some cool power supplies.
@Tangobaldy
@Tangobaldy 5 жыл бұрын
He only getting it so they get free advertising. Remember money attracts money. Skip skip nothing to watch here. Follow up video worth a watch
@km5405
@km5405 5 жыл бұрын
well...daves stories about how system integrated stuff generally works is decently interesting. the teardown is the real bobby dazzler though.
@davidgustafik7968
@davidgustafik7968 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Keysight or another manufacturer now try to outdo Rohde & Shwarz. Next mailbag - everyone sends in their top of the line power supply.
@chibichabot9293
@chibichabot9293 5 жыл бұрын
David Gustafik soon Dave is covered in high end power supplies and runs out of room for mailbag items.
@MrJohnBos
@MrJohnBos 4 жыл бұрын
Wow - free power supplies! I'm coming back as Dave Jones in my next lifetime.
@Gubelat
@Gubelat 5 жыл бұрын
Blue, because we here in Germany use blue wires for indicating a GND or Neutral.
@frogz
@frogz 5 жыл бұрын
as we always say here, dont turn it on TAKE IT APAHT
@InssiAjaton
@InssiAjaton 5 жыл бұрын
I conclude that the length of the binding posts is not only due to the need of the shrouded banana plugs. It is also due to the wire hole. Eons ago, I got curious about the possible benefit of black anodized heat sinks. I thought that would implement radiative dissipation. And indeed that does, but near room temperature rather feebly. The radiation is dependent on absolute temperature of heat sink (kelvins) to 4th power minus opposing surface absolute temperature to 4th power. When both items are not radically different, or both are nearly ambient temperature, even the 4th powers are not so different. You start seeing effect when heat sink gets near 100 degrees C and the radiation counterpart is a wall at 25 degrees. But here comes another issue. The heat sink typically is ribbed. That means the effective radiating surface area has been folded down to maybe 1/10. So, convective dissipation even without a fan stays effective, while radiative power was cut down. Free convection is proportional to about temperature difference raised to power 1.25. Fan assisted convection is many times more. After that exercise, I have never worried about the heat sinks not being black any more.
@youdonotknowmyname9663
@youdonotknowmyname9663 3 жыл бұрын
5:14 What?! No GPIB port? I am shocked!
@reviveddk
@reviveddk 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I've ever heard Dave as giddy about something new as here: 3:38
@jonelectronics510
@jonelectronics510 5 жыл бұрын
By the time you have bought the high resolution plug in for the dp832 you are not far away from the nge103.....though the specs are quite a step up!!
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, optioned up the DP832 is pushing a similar price.
@pierreuntel1970
@pierreuntel1970 5 жыл бұрын
The top vents are for let the smoke out
@josephbuganski8066
@josephbuganski8066 4 жыл бұрын
Iwill pay shipping for any of your trash, lol!
@MrFreeElectron
@MrFreeElectron 5 жыл бұрын
THese are clearly from their Hameg acquisition. Hameg uses those cases and they are standard depth
@Mustakari
@Mustakari 5 жыл бұрын
These devices are so different from one another I suspect they are from different oem manufacturers and not (all) directly from R&S.
@Gengh13
@Gengh13 5 жыл бұрын
I still prefer the interface of my dp832, although the specs are nice.
@gwangju1
@gwangju1 5 жыл бұрын
It's really not a 10A capable supply through the whole range (HMP2020). It's limited to 160W. At max V it's less than 5A.
@heyikidebir
@heyikidebir 5 жыл бұрын
Binding posts on the little one have a silly look
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@sincerelyyours7538
@sincerelyyours7538 5 жыл бұрын
So Dave, now that you have such a nice set of new power supplies, you probably won't need your old ones any more. I'll gladly pay your costs if you care to sell one to a struggling retired tech in need... :)
@fakenews7266
@fakenews7266 5 жыл бұрын
Don't hold your breath
@jaycee1980
@jaycee1980 5 жыл бұрын
I've only got a 0-18V 0-1A supply I just built myself.. I even wound my own transformer! Still not as fancy as these babies though!
@ResurrectionofMC
@ResurrectionofMC 5 жыл бұрын
In Germany it is normal to see negative in Blue
@ralphups7782
@ralphups7782 5 жыл бұрын
I reckon Shango066 would be pleased with your late Xmas presents.😉🙋
@wayneparris3439
@wayneparris3439 5 жыл бұрын
$5K US of free power supplies..... NOOOOOOIIIIIICCCCCCCEEEEEE! Good stuff! Makes my old HP supplies look like toys!
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