EEVblog 1376 - Tandy 102 Vintage Computer REPAIR

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Dave fixes a rather strange fault in his Tandy 102 portable computer.
00:00 - Tandy 102
01:23 - The symptom
05:40 - Teardown
08:02 - Schematic investigation
12:21 - Lets take a guess
18:29 - The suspect
19:46 - Visual Inspection
20:14 - Hang on, what's this?
20:44 - Probing time!
22:16 - Gotcha!
23:36 - Ok, where is it...
25:49 - That ain't no coincidence!
28:20 - Winner winner chicken dinner
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Пікірлер: 384
@IanScottJohnston
@IanScottJohnston 3 жыл бұрын
Upside down SMD using a routed hole......Ooooh, I so wanna do that on my next Pcb.... :-)
@wphanoo
@wphanoo 3 жыл бұрын
Can pick & place machines flip parts before placing them ? From what i understand they need to be already upside down in the reel.
@colejohnson66
@colejohnson66 3 жыл бұрын
@@wphanoo I think you’re right. All the ones I’ve seen (not many) use vacuums (of sorts) to pull the part out of the reel
@iamdarkyoshi
@iamdarkyoshi 3 жыл бұрын
The ones I used to operate let you pick from a tray for the weird parts. So you just place the parts into the tray and the machine would work it out. You'd definitely have fun training the optical recognition system though.
@TomStorey96
@TomStorey96 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a punched hole to me, too rough around the edges for routing.
@derkeksinator17
@derkeksinator17 3 жыл бұрын
​@@iamdarkyoshi Oh, those AOIs are a PITA. However I don't think this would be an issue, at least not a bigger one than a second chip. 1. The index mark is a chamfered edge of the package and thus clearly visible from both sides. 2. You can still inspect the meniscus of the solder joints. 3. You can still check height and planarity of the package, you might have to add/adjust your depth reference plane though.(Not sure how that works) 3a. You could check the height of the pins instead. Incidentally I'm working on a very flat voltage regulator board (to add to a stack of button cells) and will do just that. I hope combining 0603 (maybe some 0805 )parts and a low I_Q LDO will be thin enough when put into the PCB. Fun fact: VARTA V13GA cells are exactly 11.600mm in diameter(well at least mine were).
@bradburns7380
@bradburns7380 3 жыл бұрын
This video is the perfect representation as to why "right to repair" should be a universal thing. Amazing stuff!
@WillArtie
@WillArtie 3 жыл бұрын
Good comment! My wife would praise you.
@bradburns7380
@bradburns7380 3 жыл бұрын
@@WillArtie Thanks, Andre (and your wife)! :D
@andrewphi4958
@andrewphi4958 3 жыл бұрын
Louis would also praise you :)
@rkan2
@rkan2 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, should be taught in school, tbh... Most 10 year olds would learn the basics in a few hours I bet.
@rkan2
@rkan2 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidkorcak I don't see how the need for proper repair equipment nullifies the need for good repair information.
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff 3 жыл бұрын
Traces running off the side are not for test, they are to connect all the copper together for gold electroplating
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, likely that. But not all of them go off though. In fact half the LCD ones don't on the top side.
@Benjamin_S.
@Benjamin_S. 3 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog they were probably connected together in the cutouts for the upside down chips
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 3 жыл бұрын
But its not gold plated.
@fgaviator
@fgaviator 3 жыл бұрын
@@simontay4851 Indeed, no plated PCB contacts at all. Another brilliant theory falls victim to ugly facts. 😉
@Spritetm
@Spritetm 3 жыл бұрын
@@simontay4851 From what I remember, the contacts on the other side (on which the zebra strips to the glass LCD itself sit) is actually gold-plated. The back might not show any gold plating anymore because it went through a wave soldering process.
@AndyHullMcPenguin
@AndyHullMcPenguin 3 жыл бұрын
24:56 That bottom contact on your ribbon cable appears to be flapping about in the breeze. You can usually tack them back down with a tiny spot of superglue applied with a needle on the back of the lifted track.
@gregclare
@gregclare 3 жыл бұрын
Same. Just found your post when coming to point this out. Sharp eyes needed! LOL
@truckerallikatuk
@truckerallikatuk 3 жыл бұрын
The Y2K bug started hitting people in 1975. That was in the long term loan/investment industry, especially mortgages.
@UberAlphaSirus
@UberAlphaSirus 3 жыл бұрын
Gawd
@MrKillswitch88
@MrKillswitch88 3 жыл бұрын
I am not surprised lol, people in the tech industry can be amazingly short sighted sometimes.
@qlum
@qlum 3 жыл бұрын
I assume they had to deal with the Y2038 problem as well by now.
@MrSwanley
@MrSwanley 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrKillswitch88 Don't blame Y2K on the engineers. They foresaw and fixed the problem in the '70s. The hysteria and cashing in that surrounded Y2K was nothing to do with real technical problems, as the total lack of any disasters proved.
@bobvines00
@bobvines00 3 жыл бұрын
Like Dave, I was one of the Y2K Engineers at work. Some others took the easy way out and claimed that they had to replace _everything_ -- but I investigated every computer (in the equipment in the portion of the plant) I was responsible for and determined that there were no critical problems. At worst, the Artisans simply needed to date, stamp, & sign any printed reports. I wonder what has been done to "fix" the Y2038 problem? I probably won't be here then, but my children & grandchildren will be....
@rickreynolds9306
@rickreynolds9306 3 жыл бұрын
lol... I opened and ran the original Tandy Repair Center in Pensacola FL.
@circuitsandcigars1278
@circuitsandcigars1278 3 жыл бұрын
I worked in the Tandy Repair center in East Providence, RI till.it closed then the Rockland, MA one briefly
@imagineaworld
@imagineaworld 3 жыл бұрын
Got any interesting stories to share?
@rickreynolds9306
@rickreynolds9306 3 жыл бұрын
@@imagineaworld, they sent me to Dallas/Ft Worth for 40 days of training. Lived in a hotel and went to Billy Bob's Big Texas a lot. Saw leon Russel there. lol... But the best repair story was the lady at the Fish and Wildlife office in Panama City. Kept her 8" floppies on the side of a filing cabinet with a big magnet. Couldn't figure out why the disks kept going bad. LOL!
@rdoetjes
@rdoetjes 3 жыл бұрын
I never even seen a Tandy in real life! I like the Tandy 1000 form factor a lot, though.
@DanHomeAtLast
@DanHomeAtLast 3 жыл бұрын
@@rickreynolds9306 love Leon Russell what an amazing song writer and performer
@bzert281
@bzert281 3 жыл бұрын
I just love Tandy's process. I had a 4-pin color plotter of theirs and wanted to interface it to my Apple II, walked up to my local store and ordered the service manual, took a couple of days, had EVERYTHING you need. Nothing finer than Tandy IMHO. End of an era.
@Daveyk021
@Daveyk021 3 жыл бұрын
Very good deducing! Finally a good video to start my service day with. Simple enough, but only though understanding the circuit first. If that would not of had schematics, it may not have been possible. Good job. Think what we could fix today, if service manuals would not have ended in the early 1990s. Back in the day, the company I worked for built a modular ultrasonic system. There was an over all service manual, but then every module had it's own service manual. Even the I/O module which was basically only a back-plain board, a ribbon cable and I/O connectors had a 40 page service manual! The service manual for the Receiver was probably 200 pages, the CRT display module was at least that many pages. It was more of a pleasure being a electronics technician back then. Now service manuals are gone and a lot of circuits have been replaced with magic FPGAs. By about 2006, in the service department, I was the liaison to engineering for new NPIs. I was the one writing service manuals and I tried to bring the glory of the 1970's and 1980s back to them. I would be able to get theory of operation from engineering documents and working directly with the engineers, attend NPI meetings, etc. I brought back the several hundred page service manual. Parts details and part numbers were a huge part of it too. Even the theory of what the FPGA was doing and its responsibilities were a huge help in trouble-shooting failed boards. I worked to included simplified schematics again. Even in some areas exerts from component data sheets. Microsoft word had matured by the mid-2000s and was able to handle huge 300+ page documents loaded with graphics, different page sizes for different sections, etc., which was great to keep it all in one document. I was quite proud of what I had been able to do. I kept that up until about 6 years ago, until we were shut down and production and engineering move off-shore. All the higher ups really wanted was board swaps. Why fix a board for $500 when they could sell replacement boards for $2500. This did alienate customers, and alienated the technicians who didn't want to be board swappers. ...And then they would never stock the replacement boards. Electronics has become quite a throw-away mess. There for about 10 years, or so, I was able to bring back the love of servicing our boards with extreme details available to do the job.
@necessaryevil8615
@necessaryevil8615 3 жыл бұрын
Repairing stuff looks so easy when you do it, Dave!
@ElTwOJaY
@ElTwOJaY 3 жыл бұрын
I wasn't even a thought in my parent's brains when this beauty came out
@pmgodfrey
@pmgodfrey 3 жыл бұрын
This comment makes me feel old. :/ lol
@dylansayer7209
@dylansayer7209 3 жыл бұрын
You still aren't a thought in your parents head
@pmgodfrey
@pmgodfrey 3 жыл бұрын
@@dylansayer7209 -- Hey man, stranger things are happening all around us. It's getting real weird out there!
@arbitraryuser
@arbitraryuser 3 жыл бұрын
That's not how babies are made.
@EngineeringVignettes
@EngineeringVignettes 3 жыл бұрын
Chicker Dinner ? O_o ... A "bobby dazzler" Dave, nice fix. Excellent diagnosis deduction there. Saved another one! Cheers,
@nosuchthing4789
@nosuchthing4789 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Enjoyed every second of it! Thx!
@TheGFS
@TheGFS 3 жыл бұрын
excellent video , fun to watch the process of finding the issue and how the scope comes in handy
@briangoldberg4439
@briangoldberg4439 3 жыл бұрын
You're lucky that backup battery isn't gone. I would replace it before it spews everywhere. I think most people use a 2032 with a diode to keep it from getting charged.
@abpccpba
@abpccpba 3 жыл бұрын
Do you mean the battery 2032 that is the common coin battery? Thank You Am opening my 100 now.
@briangoldberg4439
@briangoldberg4439 3 жыл бұрын
@@abpccpba I think so, it's close to the same voltage. I saw it on Adrian's Digital Basement. He does a lot of old microcomputer restorations, and he always changes out the old batteries. I think generally you also have to put a diode in because the original (might) be rechargeable, and you don't want the system to try to charge the CR2032. You should look up some stuff online about how to do it, I'm sure there's lot of resources,
@NiHaoMike64
@NiHaoMike64 3 жыл бұрын
@@briangoldberg4439 Or just replace it with a supercap?
@briangoldberg4439
@briangoldberg4439 3 жыл бұрын
@@NiHaoMike64 I'm not sure if the charging system would work as-is to just swap in a supercap, never thought about doing that. Supercaps also have a less stable voltage output over time than a battery, so that might be a consideration.
@DavidHembrow
@DavidHembrow 3 жыл бұрын
@@briangoldberg4439 I installed a supercap (actually two slightly less than super caps on parallel) in mine several years ago. Still works just fine. www.hembrow.eu/personal/necpc8201a.html
@MikeB_UK
@MikeB_UK 3 жыл бұрын
Really love the vids where you analyse a problem, get the scope out, poke around a bit, then find a solution. So much diagnosing and testing approach can be learned. Winner winner. Thanks so much.
@cac2244
@cac2244 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have Dave's knowledge or none of the probes, but first thing I always do is put PCB under microscope and look for physical damage...but doesn't do for a good build-up video... Dave is truly special the way he presents, educate and entertain.
@thedarkrs1
@thedarkrs1 3 жыл бұрын
24:57 did no1 see the bottom pin?
@gunderd
@gunderd 3 жыл бұрын
I came here to say that too. I was almost certain when I saw it that the problem was solved - but then he skipped over it completely. I wonder how it went getting it back in the socket like that?
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed that during takes and fixed it before putting back in.
@nixxonnor
@nixxonnor 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome troubleshooting video. Double thumbs up for the way it was presented!
@denny9931
@denny9931 3 жыл бұрын
Great presentation and pace! Like it very much.
@whitefields5595
@whitefields5595 3 жыл бұрын
More fixing vids please..... we can all learn (and be entertained) so much when your knowledge is applied to something that is broken
@nedbagno5286
@nedbagno5286 3 жыл бұрын
That was a fantastic repair video. Nice work.
@vhm14u2c
@vhm14u2c 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful TS’ing Dave, and thanks for sharing!
@foxthx1138
@foxthx1138 3 жыл бұрын
That was my laptop in University. I used it to take notes in class.... Damn I'm old.
@Ricard2k
@Ricard2k 3 жыл бұрын
When Dave makes videos on his own expertise, he makes great ones. I loved this!
@gmcoelho
@gmcoelho 3 жыл бұрын
The 1980's version of a Macbook with liquid damage...
@flymypg
@flymypg 3 жыл бұрын
The original Model 100 was such a fun PC to use. The bus and port access allowed easy connection to external circuits, and BASIC had access to all the pins, making it a key tool on my bench. My favorite use was validating the datasheets for new parts, particularly sensors and stepper drivers. Never had a Model 102, as the MS-DOS takeover of the universe was pretty much complete by then.
@Sylvan_dB
@Sylvan_dB 3 жыл бұрын
Same. Had the Model 100 since new. Great little machine and while I wanted a 102, it wasn't a big enough improvement.
@McTroyd
@McTroyd 3 жыл бұрын
Always nice to see a bit of kit brought back to service! 👍
@btizef2008
@btizef2008 3 жыл бұрын
This video is underrated. Very enjoyable repair!
@TrebleWing
@TrebleWing 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this one. Very clean transition from hypothesis, inspection of schematics, probing, and finding the bugger responsible. Well done
@derofromdown-under2832
@derofromdown-under2832 3 жыл бұрын
Great find Dave... WELL DONE!!! 10/10
@youssni416
@youssni416 3 жыл бұрын
Good on you mate. repair videos are awesome.
@kevincozens6837
@kevincozens6837 3 жыл бұрын
"Chicker Dinner" :) You have to love issues that are simple to fix. That unit now has some new life breathed in to it. Interesting to see that Varta NiCD battery. It is the exact same one I used on a 25-year old CPU board I designed.
@BlackEpyon
@BlackEpyon 3 жыл бұрын
You can still get those Varta batteries, though most people who repair these vintage computers prefer to just swap them for lithium coin cells.
@simonwe1102
@simonwe1102 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlackEpyon I worked there. Nowadays you only get the NiMH ones, NiCD was banned due to ROHS. Maybe you get those from other vendors?
@TheCod3r
@TheCod3r 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic analytical skills here, really demonstrates your true skills. Well done 👏
@eebaker699
@eebaker699 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Easy to follow your thoughts and troubleshooting techniques for a newbie hobbyist like myself. I would like to see more like these. Thanks.😁
@pablopicaro7649
@pablopicaro7649 3 жыл бұрын
Had a similar model (NEC ?) back in about 1991-1992 time frame. Connected it via RS232 to a daisy wheel typewriter. Used it to send out "shotgun" resumes to scores and scores of companies - with no results.
@mat_teles
@mat_teles 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video Dave
@nickademuss42
@nickademuss42 3 жыл бұрын
I used these at work years ago to connect to data loggers at power plants using the serial port and the terminal program built in. they were tough, never crashed and batteries lasted forever. I used one as a wall clock for years, these didn't have a built in failure point. they were made to last.
@tzubin99
@tzubin99 3 жыл бұрын
YES! I have one of these (still working).... great video!
@TeslaTales59
@TeslaTales59 3 жыл бұрын
Great teardown- and yes-- schematics!
@frankowalker4662
@frankowalker4662 3 жыл бұрын
Great fix. I would love one of these.
@BenHeckHacks
@BenHeckHacks 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I had this problem. The LCD on mine has gone completely "come a gusta"
@JernD
@JernD 3 жыл бұрын
Me gusta gutsa
@primus711
@primus711 3 жыл бұрын
Someone found enough time to step away from his cooking show
@TradieTrev
@TradieTrev 3 жыл бұрын
What I find amusing is you saying that with your dodgy Aussie accent haha
@HighestRank
@HighestRank 3 жыл бұрын
Gutsa*
@TomLeg
@TomLeg 3 жыл бұрын
I think Dave is saying "gutter" in his upside-down accent :-)
@etusuku8848
@etusuku8848 Жыл бұрын
The winner feeling when you catch the bug. You really get that feeling into your videos :)
@jjjacer
@jjjacer 3 жыл бұрын
@25:30 looks like there is a varta battery on the board (suggest replacement before it leaks and destroys the board like just about every other vintage device)
@BlackEpyon
@BlackEpyon 3 жыл бұрын
Before he scratched it away, it looked like that pin-14 trace had a spot of electrolyte that had eaten away the trace.
@jameswong7327
@jameswong7327 3 жыл бұрын
Great job, Dave !
@mscir
@mscir 3 жыл бұрын
Well done.
@dieterniklaus28
@dieterniklaus28 3 жыл бұрын
Winner Winner - Chicken Dinner! What a laugh!! :-) This is an amazing repair session! Thank you for sharing it Dave!
@aaronlochard7360
@aaronlochard7360 3 жыл бұрын
Always glad to see videos on these portables. I wanted one for years and then went overboard after I bought the first one. I have one from the RadioShack corporate bankruptcy auction that is not functionin. I have another working model 100, a working model 102, 2 non-working model 200s and a non-working NEC PC-8300 that I have to find time to troubleshoot.
@priestblood
@priestblood 2 жыл бұрын
Well done Dave,great job
@NDZ12345
@NDZ12345 3 жыл бұрын
Please do make that video you mentioned about the modem, I'd love it see it!
@6581punk
@6581punk 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Cambridge Z88, very similar form factor. I see you've covered it before :)
@laustinspeiss
@laustinspeiss 3 жыл бұрын
These were manufactured by Kyocera... as were a family of rebadged near-identical units from several brands.
@hoffmannolsen
@hoffmannolsen 3 жыл бұрын
Nice bug hunt there Dave, enjoyed your effort and success!
@TopEndSpoonie
@TopEndSpoonie 3 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the "Chicker Dinner", I thought, some more dots missing on the display. Nah, just a test for the observant. :)
@kynkokytsumi1931
@kynkokytsumi1931 3 жыл бұрын
good catch sir :)
@keithlambell1970
@keithlambell1970 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent deduction there Dave
@thechillhacker
@thechillhacker 3 жыл бұрын
Really cool PCB layouts on these things! I actually just fixed up my 102 a couple hours ago. Saved it from the "electronics recycling" pile at the local dump a few months ago. Anyway, only issue was old memory battery - replaced that, and the nagging one, the function keys not working. Ended up tracking it down with a logic probe to a bad trace under the PIO chip. Soldered a bodge between PA7 and pin 8 on the keyboard connector and bob's your uncle! Fully functional unit! now just to wire it up to my theoldnet wifi modem emulator for a sweet mobile terminal! Also, what a joy it is to program in BASIC on that keyboard... mmmmm... That empty expansion rom socket is looking mighty lonely too.... maybe some 8085 assembly time :)
@objection_your_honor
@objection_your_honor 3 жыл бұрын
Here is the Blinky program of those days; 10 PRINT "HELLO" 20 GOTO 10
@donepearce
@donepearce 3 жыл бұрын
11 FOR N = 1 to 100 12 Next N 13 CLS 14 FOR N = 1 to 100 15 NEXT N 100 was plenty for a decent delay back then
@typxxilps
@typxxilps 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifull craftmanship ... imagine the news we were reading back from the LA Olympics in 1984 written on a Tandy.
@PortTalbot1
@PortTalbot1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Great fault finding. Winner Winner Chicken Dinner 🍽
@thomasw6169
@thomasw6169 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Analysis !
@brooknet
@brooknet 3 жыл бұрын
I cheered when you found the fault. I really enjoyed watching you track this bad boy down.
@axelurbanski2828
@axelurbanski2828 3 жыл бұрын
Real nice repair
@WacKEDmaN
@WacKEDmaN 3 жыл бұрын
cool stuff Dave.. id love to see ya do more retro computer repairs like this.... and maybe that Sinclair C5 sometime! :P
@rarbiart
@rarbiart 3 жыл бұрын
24:56 the lowest contact pad on the ribbon looks concerning!
@MrKillswitch88
@MrKillswitch88 3 жыл бұрын
Been ages since I last seen one of these in person.
@scottlarson1548
@scottlarson1548 3 жыл бұрын
The Model 100 is the one computer I used to death in the 80's. I wrote every paper in college on it (printed though the parallel interface on my Olivetti typewriter) and I spent hours typing on BBS systems through an expensive 1200 baud modem I bought. Naturally I also used it for nefarious purposes. I wrote a simple Daemon Dialer to call every number in my city looking for computers to hack into. And since you could only dial into the high school computer from within the school's phone system, we brought them to school and plugged them into random phone outlets. Our greatest achievement was taking one into the phone room at school and using alligator clips to connect the modem into the line that the front office terminal used. We then got someone in the office to log in and our Model 100 captured their password.
@MandrakeDCR
@MandrakeDCR 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man. I still kick myself for selling mine back in the day. I had one all setup for a great Packet Radio rig. Such awesome little units. Great to see again :)
@frankgrudge8823
@frankgrudge8823 3 жыл бұрын
Good jobby very entertaining thanks Dave
@richardbrobeck2384
@richardbrobeck2384 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Save Dave!
@jussofnsw
@jussofnsw 3 жыл бұрын
The serial number starts with 61...probably a sub-version for Australia, The modem would have been approved by Telecom or (maybe the PMG?) for use in Australia.
@SidebandSamurai
@SidebandSamurai 3 жыл бұрын
Gday Dave! Brilliant video on how to board level troubleshoot electronic equipment. You can see the process you go through to resolve an issue. Sometimes you have to just dig out the oscilloscope to properly troubleshoot the issue. Had you just decided "Oh its that chip," you would have wasted time pulling the chip just to find out that was not the fault. Too bad you did not run this during Septandy. This would have been a great video for that event.
@ncot_tech
@ncot_tech 3 жыл бұрын
"Chasing a red herring down a rabbit hole" - This is like an old style Dave video :)
@AntonioBarba_TheKaneB
@AntonioBarba_TheKaneB 3 жыл бұрын
An old news reporter gave me his Olivetti M10, one of the many clones of the original Kyocera / Tandy 100. He used it for over 20 years to write articles! What a nice little machine!
@alexanderfedorov7890
@alexanderfedorov7890 3 жыл бұрын
Chiker dinner ;) LOL ;)) well done mate!
@gergelysoki1705
@gergelysoki1705 3 жыл бұрын
Louis would touch himself after finding that corrosion until the cows come home.
@donvito1973
@donvito1973 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but his magnet wire repair with UV cured solder mask would be a bit less neanderthal than daves 18gauge yellow wire.. Who adds a mod wire in yellow anyway? mod wires are green FFS.. :-)
@gergelysoki1705
@gergelysoki1705 3 жыл бұрын
@@donvito1973 yeah...it's fine
@HagarVikin
@HagarVikin 3 жыл бұрын
@@donvito1973 mod wire can be black or blue or red as well there no formal rule. i have see and use different colour mod wires and we usually choose colour to what its doing..
@Thatdavemarsh
@Thatdavemarsh 3 жыл бұрын
I remember gaming on one of these. Such a great machine. Belonged to my grandfather
@Brian-L
@Brian-L 3 жыл бұрын
I remember pouring over the RadioShack catalogs as a little whipper snapper really wanting one of these! Fast forward to 12/31/1999 as an escalation engineer at Lucent on standby in case all the phone systems started crashing around the world at midnight. Nothing to see, move along now...
@FurEngel
@FurEngel 3 жыл бұрын
So interesting that they cut holes in the board to mount the chips upside down, because even back then, you could order packages from the manufacturer with a "flipped" pinout. (Which is called a 'reverse type').
@wakkowarner7391
@wakkowarner7391 3 жыл бұрын
Crikey, I used to use one of those to monitor the output of A0 drawing tablets over serial comms.
@Rodville
@Rodville 3 жыл бұрын
That battery is all crusty. Please replace it ASAP or at the very least remove it before it destroys the board. It's only a matter of time. And as someone already stated a trace is coming off the computer side of the display ribbon cable.
@donmoore7785
@donmoore7785 3 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these new in '86. Sold it lightly used, in the box, for $480, and the disk drive for it for a whopping $675 two years ago. Love how they reversed the chips and used the board thickness to place them. The only utilitarian program I wrote on this was to estimate how much I would have to have saved by the time I was 40 to retire. I made a mistake in overestimating future rates of return - ha ha. I later retired at age 42, but that included an unexpected inheritance from my mom of over a million. So my program was a little off - garbage in, garbage out. It did have a very nice keyboard for the time.
@beardyweirdy7936
@beardyweirdy7936 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed that. Cut my teeth repairing various 8 bit products back in the day at Unilab. I had BBC micro S/n 00002 on my workbench
@ronniepirtlejr2606
@ronniepirtlejr2606 3 жыл бұрын
That definitely looked like flux ate the track off Dave. good find!
@UberAlphaSirus
@UberAlphaSirus 3 жыл бұрын
Blimey! A fix video where you fix it! lol
@JuanZMax
@JuanZMax 3 жыл бұрын
amazing
@rowanlidbury
@rowanlidbury 3 жыл бұрын
We had Tandy stores here in the UK. I always came out with something random.
@robvandeschepop8595
@robvandeschepop8595 3 жыл бұрын
We also had Tandy in the Netherlands. That was my first experience with electronic components sold in those blister packs glued on light blue cardboard. I'm still using the solar powered Tandy scientific calculator EC-4014 here at work. It has a hexadecimal mode and no batteries!
@petechongy
@petechongy 3 жыл бұрын
Chicker dinner? Was that a typo Dave?
@roscozone8092
@roscozone8092 3 жыл бұрын
Nah - its a Davo
@VrumsAdventures
@VrumsAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
I love that it's "chicker" :D
@pjaj43
@pjaj43 3 жыл бұрын
I remember Y2K well. I was working for IBM at the time as a software engineer. We spent 6 months prior to 1st Jan 2000 combing our source code for date manipulation areas and fixing them if necessary (very few if I remember correctly). Thank heaven for grep! Then I was volunteered to be on call over new years eve / day. Of course this meant I couldn't drink in case I had to leap in my car and go to fix something. At least they had the decency to pay me double time overtime rates and give me a mobile phone which I got to keep. As it happened we'd got it right and the whole thing was a non-event. The phone never rang once.
@TomLeg
@TomLeg 3 жыл бұрын
to the left of the break in the trace you kept pointing to, there's a gap that looks like it was scratched away intentionally
@preferredimage
@preferredimage 3 жыл бұрын
24:15 I spy Varta, Destroyer of worlds! I'd get that swapped out regardless.
@ilanmagen
@ilanmagen 3 жыл бұрын
Cool stuff, Tonight is Stack dinner
@b3n70n
@b3n70n 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, reminds me of mine years back trying to hack using the acoustic coupler on a pay phone. What microscope are you using to do those "hex" zooms I need one. Thanks and keep up, great content.
@pmgodfrey
@pmgodfrey 3 жыл бұрын
This was my first portable in 1986/1987 and I believe my third computer. I taught myself how to type on that keyboard.
@johneastmond9092
@johneastmond9092 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! I was the Y2K engineer at my company as well. Report after report, letter after letter, cert. after cert., we're good!
@EEVblog
@EEVblog 3 жыл бұрын
They wouldn't even accept the "there's no RTC in it!" excuse, so the report had to say that *rolling eyes*
@johneastmond9092
@johneastmond9092 3 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog Right! So I took a picture of the 20 ft. long cam shaft that controlled the 350+ micro-switches that then controlled the production machines in the place. Couldn't simply say; "no RTC " or "mechanical cam operated, Doesn't know what a date is." No, no, we're streaming video back before it was a thing!
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 3 жыл бұрын
@@EEVblog But what do you even do to a device that doesn't have an RTC in it. It doesn't even know what a date is. There's literally nothing to fix. Did you just tick a box on the report without even doing anything?
@johneastmond9092
@johneastmond9092 3 жыл бұрын
@@simontay4851 yes, we "do" nothing. We just have to demonstrate that the date doesn't effect operation. That's what "Y2K compliance" was all about. We had to know that our suppliers and vendors were going to be able to operate, and our customers demanded the same of us. Think "supply chain diagnostics" on steroids!
@qlum
@qlum 3 жыл бұрын
Interestingly enough we are closer now to the Y2038 problem than the Y2k problem.
@michaelhawthorne8696
@michaelhawthorne8696 3 жыл бұрын
Nice result....destroying the EEVBlog curse....Nice
@iamdarkyoshi
@iamdarkyoshi 3 жыл бұрын
Have not watched the repair yet, but the first glance at the fault reminds me of my osborne 1, which does almost the same thing vertically where it doubled up. I'm thinking a stuck address bit
@knightsun2920
@knightsun2920 3 жыл бұрын
I had one but it broke many years ago, wish I still had it.
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 3 жыл бұрын
The erroneous picture data seemed to be shifted a pixel or two compared to what a pure mirror would be. That would suggest a clock gating pin was not working properly, and that's exactly what the problem was.
@davestorm6718
@davestorm6718 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe that you could do so much with so little back then. TRS-80 Model III was my first
@ppdan
@ppdan 3 жыл бұрын
You don't need much to have something functional. If you remove all the unnecessary bells and whistles from what we have today you get what we had 20-30 years ago.
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