Data Recovery: Hard Drive Platter Swap in Our Lab!

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@Natervader13 3 жыл бұрын

This is more entertaining than 90% of TV. I was on the edge of my seat from start to finish.

@anjalishakya7194 2 ай бұрын

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@robertweiss4171 Жыл бұрын

This 5 year old video came in really handy for me. I have a USB drive with the same issue of the platters not spinning. I bought a donor drive with a dodgy controller PCB and am going to attempt a platter swap. The use of scotch tape was valuable to me as I never gave a thought to platter alignment. This video has now given me a chance to save a friends photos. Thanks for keeping the old videos available.

@TheRedSatan10 3 ай бұрын

How is it going?

@MoemnBagdady 4 жыл бұрын

0:52 As a tech employee for 10y now I had only one experience with working with a boss who will appreciate the hard worker and give positive feedback. on behalf of everyone thank you for give credit to your employee.

@cartossin 5 жыл бұрын

The tape trick is incredible. A few years ago, I watched a talk from the head of a decent size data recovery house and he said it was impossible to keep them aligned.

@XnoobSteve 7 жыл бұрын

Do you do liver transplants?

@TCRSCircuit 7 жыл бұрын

Not sure if Louis does, but we can fix your pacemaker in chest for 29.99!! No Pulse, No Fee! lol ;)

@TCRSCircuit 7 жыл бұрын

Yes we will include a complimentery Magnetometer swap lol..

@XnoobSteve 7 жыл бұрын

$29.99 in UK money is a month's wages these days otherwise I'd consider it!

@i_might_be_lying 7 жыл бұрын

He sure will soon... with a scotch tape!

@michaltutak7452 7 жыл бұрын

Ummmm.

@LEXTHE4 6 жыл бұрын

"You should conserve tape, that shit's expensive" Classic boss thing to say ahah

@jeddhernandez 3 жыл бұрын

classic stu!

@anjalishakya7194 2 ай бұрын

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@OskarNendes 23 күн бұрын

Amazing. The new era of hardware fixing will kick off all the unprofessional persons. Absolutely will. Felt like a surgeon just by watching this.

@jerrysimpson3239 3 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed viewing the video and watching the swap out of the platters. I've been computer tech since the early 70's and it's amazing how much has change in the way of packing data on a platter and now totally different technique with packing data on a SSD or flash drive. Repairing and doing alignment of hard drives is something I've have done for many years. In the early days the disk drives were very large, maybe size of a dishwasher one could say. The platters were about 14 inches across and there might be as many as 10 platters with 20 read/write heads as could write on both sides of the platters. Many of the drives then had user swap out disc platter assembly where all were housed in a container so the customer could have several disc platter containers and only a few disk drives where as certain data was needed the platter assembly would be mounted / installed into the drive. Sometimes the platter assemblies would get bump or even dropped by the user or when mounting would bump against the disc heads causing miss-alignment. This is where I would be called as would have to repair the disc platter assembly or replace one of the read write heads and then sometimes only have to do alignment of the heads. Since there were several heads from top to bottom each one had to be in alignment with each other so an alignment pack would be installed which contained several different signals recorded onto the pack. Using an oscilloscope and multiple channels of input I could realign the heads and also align where the heads would move in and out within the pack correctly. The adjustments was done in micrometers using a special tool along with the scope all being done by hand and being very careful. A friend of mine who was to me like a mentor also did the same type of work and many times we would both get called in to do this type of work. He at one time work at NASA doing the early Mercury and Apollo missions. Sometimes we would have fun contest to see who could get their alignment the closest to being zero on with no plus and minus offsets. By the way even the new drives were similar as the older ones which required the air flow over the heads to allow smooth movement and from being damaged by touching the surface of a platter. On the drives I worked on the distance between the read / write head and the surface of a platter which I had to adjust was smaller than the thickness of a thumbprint. This is why the air filter and clean room is needed when working on these as even a smoke particle from someone smoking is so large that it could crash the head of a disk pack platter. So from someone who been doing hard drives repairs say for many years I so appreciated to see your work talent and how careful you were in doing the repair. Another trick which sometimes work is placing the drive into a freezer for a few moments when data is not readable but the platter will turn. Works better with floppy discs more so than hard drives as it gives a temp repair which can last several minutes, long enough to recover data if lucky. The scotch tape trick is really amazing at how well it work considering how tight the tolerances are between any movement left to right in relationship to the platter below or above. I would say that most likely there will be some slight movements but thanks to the ECC circuits in the drive it can correct majority of the data that might have issues and why sometimes when looking at the sector map it might show one of the heads having issues as could be the error is greater than what the ECC can handle when doing corrections. I have used similar sector maps on floppy disc many years ago when recovering data off floppy disc and getting around encryption of data. How things have change but happy to see there are techs such as you are want to learn that skill and even find ways to be creative in doing the repairs.

@shusthoprithibichaisundorz4546 10 ай бұрын

Owo

@Mikefngarage 6 жыл бұрын

Real repairman are a dying breed. keep up the good work. Most people just want to get paid and not do the work. Keep it up you guys. teach train and expand. this is what youtube is all about. Hope these are monitized and doing well for you guys in the high rent district. you should move to CA and enjoy the nicer weather here and a bit cheaper than Manhattan.

@rossmanngroup 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@aorusaki 6 жыл бұрын

facts!

@two_owls 5 жыл бұрын

Not sure lazy people are a new phenomenon, but repair is certainly something companies don't want you to do - they'd rather you just buy newer junk!

@user-rn9fh9jm8d 5 жыл бұрын

You people are tech surgeons of now days, keep it that way and be proud of yourself (you suck as a camera man but this is not important)! Greetings from sunny Bulgaria 🇧🇬

@tonytrilex2555 3 жыл бұрын

Who said CA is cheaper what are smoking? CA isn't cheaper San Fransisco is the most expensive in the nation

@hddrecoveryservices 7 жыл бұрын

3:34 woohoo!!! shot out :) man, this was really well done, and cool to watch. I must admit watching others do the work you do is really addictive. Congrats

@hellterminator 7 жыл бұрын

Love your channel, mate! Thanks to your videos I was able to recover photos from a damaged micro SD card.

@tompeters4234 6 жыл бұрын

Its good Jason gives you a shout out :D Louis slams 'not going to speed it up and play some fast techno music playing'. That was pretty low of Louis.

@pentuprager6225 4 жыл бұрын

Edited how many times and what was changed. Thumbs down edits. Can be edited again and again.

@ucupi 2 жыл бұрын

erkins here too..:)

@AlmightyGunz 4 жыл бұрын

I know this is an old post, but I waited 2 years to learn as much as possible to salvage my files for a novel I was working on. I had about 60,000 words that were lost and I went ahead and purchased a used tunnel system this past month. I then got a hold of a new donor HD (luckily, it was a single platter). I was able to carefully pull the parking break and get the heads out of the way and gently pull the platter. Yes lol, I used tape to pull up the center platter very carefully. Once I landed the platter into the new donor housing and sealed it. I recovered 99.3% of my data. You guys rock. I'm sort of stubborn and like to learn stuff myself. So I took the time to do this myself because I wasn't willing to risk additional impact or having too many hands touching it. I also did not want to risk sending this via mail and risking the package getting lost. So... Thank you for inspiring me to grow and expand my knowledge.

@AlmightyGunz 4 жыл бұрын

@JimboParadox lol. It was my first time, and potentially the last time. Unless I bump into another writer with a similar story ; )

@AlmightyGunz 4 жыл бұрын

@JimboParadox Yes; it was a Word doc. And out of Alllll the dozens of useless Word doc files I had backed up, that specific one never synched with OneDrive successfully lol. I usually keep 3 data locations as good contingency. We all learn : ) I would say do it! Practice with a drive that doesn't have critical data. And don't drink coffee before the procedure : )

@chris01479 4 ай бұрын

@@AlmightyGunz I have got questions. Will it work if I swap the head using the same model, size, first 3 digits of serial number and same firmware version? If it will work, can I use hddsuperclone to clone the hard drive or I still have to use PC3000??

@AlmightyGunz 4 ай бұрын

@@chris01479 if all you are swapping out is the head, you shouldn't have any issues. It's when you have to to swap platters into another shell that it gets a bit complicated and can be easily corrupted (the process). Just make sure you try not to make any contact with the platter, even slightly. Wear rubber gloves to prevent any potential static passing through, or use non-static conducting tools. Take your time and be super patient.

@chris01479 4 ай бұрын

@@AlmightyGunz oh great, but there is a problem. How do I know if there is any scratches on the platters? The data recovery firm told me in years ago that my hard drive had alot of corrupted and they can't find no more than 10GB which they should have recover at least 40gb or 50gb. That data recovery firm is well known as scammers. Should I contact them and ask them if there is scratches on the platters, what they do and how they recovered my data?

@raywebb2415 6 жыл бұрын

Good Job!!! I did hundreds of these back in the day. A couple of tips: after you heat the bearing, try using a #6 torx and turn the platter stack back and forth with the spindle screw. Apply slight downward pressure. I have loosened up many bearings this way and did not have to do the platter swap. Next, try not to fumble with screws over the platters, as dropping a screw on the platter can cause a small ding resulting in an "ecc" on that area. Many of you small time guys do better work than some of the big companies out there. Keep on trucking!

@user-jv4se8hi8s 6 ай бұрын

Hey do i really need to find the exact specs of harddisk for a donor? Like the size of harddisk etc

@macrossactual 7 жыл бұрын

The magnet on the shaft of the screw driver tip was worth the price of admission. I'm embarrassed to not have thought of that in my 43 years on earth. Thank you, gentlemen!

@Atelier_Haserot 19 күн бұрын

its a great trick, if you have a mini screwdriver or tip set, but an old HD magnet up against them and they get magnetized even after the magnet is gone ;) SDF-1 4 ever

@7markhunter 7 жыл бұрын

Laminar flow cabinet, then taped up mouse hole from Atomic Wings... lol made my friggin day.

@rossmanngroup 7 жыл бұрын

We're winning! Atomic Wings is closed! Mice have nothing to eat and have left.

@XcaliburReborn 6 жыл бұрын

This was insanely informative for me. Whenever I hear a sound like that I always assume it's the actuator thats stuck. Sometimes the magnets that hold the actuator in place and level can get knocked slightly out of alignment when the drives suffered a hard impact. It's really cool knowing that drives had bearing fluid. I wouldn't have even suspected that.

@jasonheckenlively1172 4 жыл бұрын

Was eating a Reeses while watching this and realized I was subconsciously being super-careful not to drop any crumbs.

@chileanguyfleegman1908 4 жыл бұрын

Jason Heckenlively this is hilarious! 😅

@ARNOLDFALCON 3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@Robert-jz7hq 3 жыл бұрын

BBQ ribs here, and never have I been so unnecessarily tense.

@SK-ob3hn 3 жыл бұрын

😂 😂 😂

@leonkernan 7 жыл бұрын

nice work Jason but a word of advise. sack the cameraman

@avflyguy 5 жыл бұрын

I'm sure glad someone else saw that. Maximum precision of the tech, a 4 yr old on the camera (and audio) -- Otherwise, very interesting.

@shirley556 5 жыл бұрын

i agree, nice work but the camera man really aggravates me to the point of screaming. He needs to get a job holding a street sign. otherwise could be a good video

@AboveEmAllProduction 5 жыл бұрын

@@shirley556 louis rossman is the camera guy.

@DrEtzor 4 жыл бұрын

@Richard A Irwin Jr The moment when everywhere you go and you see someone saying a joke; > Someone says a joke > Someone else has to explain that it was a joke > A third person has to say that it was a joke and ruins the joke by explaining it > Fourth person does the same as the third. > Ruined.

@lollllloro 4 жыл бұрын

@@DrEtzor It isn't a joke, it's about someone's income.

@thisrocks 7 жыл бұрын

I was similar to that kid in my first IT job out of university. In my second week I stayed back until 12 to finish off and work out their backup process for getting recordings to customers. Didn't ask for overtime and came up with a lot of suggestions, eventually completely reengineering the process. The company exploited my enthusiasm and curiosity. Please reward this guy in a way that harbours his curiosity.

@Skandalos 4 жыл бұрын

Im not sure who exploits whom more. The company the enthusiastic newbie, or the newbie the company that gives him the chance to learn stuff (and mess stuff up in the process) he could never learn anywhere else. I never had any regrets. I just left when I found something better, with no hard feelings.

@mrainaandroid8208 10 ай бұрын

Millions of legends really enjoyed this video. Really top notch. Thanks for the upload.

@tonyonofrio1147 5 жыл бұрын

Love this video. I have taken dead drives apart just for fun so I know what they look like inside. Never knew (or realised)about the heads and the head comb. Love the tape solution, simple and effective for a quick swap over. I've recovered data from many dying drives for customers at an OS level. Many taking days to copy all the important data files off the drive. This is next level precision work. Obviously Jason is dedicated and enjoys doing this kind of work, good on him and you for recognising this.

@ourflagismined4129 7 жыл бұрын

That canned air stuff. Can't tell from the video exactly what brand or part # he's using, but word of advice to everyone here: the bittering agent they put in that shit (so that kids don't huff it) loves to stick-to and create a micro film on whatever you're cleaning..If you contact the manufacturers directly, they usually have a model with no bitterant in it, and for the same price as the regular cans. Only catch is that you've gotta buy it in bulk (depending on whether you consider a ~12 can case of them to be bulk). Well worth it though, and if you're using it regularly you're gonna go through 12 cans eventually anyway (in 6-24 months for me). Kids and coddling ruin everything... After 2 bad experiences with films of bittering agent being left behind on stuff after cleaning, I refuse to use the store-bought stuff any more. If you're just cleaning keyboards, go hog-wild with the stuff from the store. But for optics, sensitive electronics, and anything you're gonna be using for high-purity solvents, fuck that stuff so hard. I don't remember which brand I use, but I doubt it matters, best guess is that most of the brands probably carry a version without a bittering agent. FWIW, I live in the US. If you live in another country, maybe you're lucky and can still buy the good stuff in stores, or without having to jump through hoops. Also, a side note (since this post is already long, and since the scaremongers that created this problem in the first place never actually know what they're talking about). The deal with the danger from huffing it, seems to be that it increases cardiac sensitivity to adrenaline. Meaning the jolts of adrenaline that would normally be perfectly safe (for instance, the adrenaline you get when something scares you), carry an increased risk of causing a dangerous or fatal arrhythmia. Beyond that, it doesn't seem to be any more dangerous than other anaesthetic inhalants; in that if you breathe them in high concentration, you can suffocate yourself by not getting enough oxygen. And just so there's no confusion, this stuff isn't dangerous for general use -- it's only in high concentrations (like if you huff it directly) and with large amounts of adrenaline that it even starts to carry any risk. That's why they're able to safely sell it at pretty much every major store. If I had to guess, I'd say that 99% of why they added a bitterant to it here, is because parents don't want their kids huffing it to get high. And when you consider how many thousands of kids have done exactly that, and not died, you've got nothing to worry about if you're using it for its intended purpose. You can dig up the research if you're interested; it's buried in medical journals and safety reports. I just felt that for once someone should spread some honest information about air duster. And for exactly that reason -- because the real facts are always buried in medical journals and further obscured by scared parents; who then go on to ruin things for the rest of us. Congratulations if you actually got this far in reading this; it turned out to be a bigger block of text than I was expecting.

@rossmanngroup 7 жыл бұрын

If I call up and ask for canned air with no bittering agent, will I be put on a list? :X

@Prometheus720 7 жыл бұрын

Louis Rossmann You're already on a bunch of lists, bud.

@TheOriginalEviltech 7 жыл бұрын

Why the fuck would they put bittering agent in it? It's just harmless gas! That's just fucked up man...

@BodenM 7 жыл бұрын

To stop people from inhaling the propellant

@Outfrost 7 жыл бұрын

@Robert, the "compressed air" you get in those cans is not actually air :)

@serendipitydoctorxqy6122 7 жыл бұрын

"reading at the speed of a dead SSD" Got me cracked up. My fully functioning Geo Metro drives like a new mercedes that someone crashed into a wall.

@TheTraumaFactor 5 жыл бұрын

Once again Louis, you've provided us with exceptional content and delivery. This was not only interesting, informative, comprehensive, but also addicting to watch. I mean cmon... the scotch tape was the MVP of this recovery. who would have thought!?!?!?

@anjalishakya7194 2 ай бұрын

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@fiallos1 5 жыл бұрын

That was amazing! No low level formatting here! Just good ol swap out! Amazing times we are living in on the tech frontier!

@i_might_be_lying 7 жыл бұрын

Hey Louis, about anti-static mat grounding clamp: it is very unlikely that that crocodile will reliably pinch through powder coating or any good quality painted surface. I've been bitten by this once - the contact seemed to be good, but it wasn't. PS. Thanks a lot for this video, I've learned a ton!

@jabowa 7 жыл бұрын

Puts things to a whole new level when it comes to right to repair.

@Exeutiy 6 жыл бұрын

This is by far my favourite channel. I can listen to your videos while doing other things and learning a bunch along the way. Thank you.

@johnraser4250 6 жыл бұрын

This will put me on the list: head combs are fascinating, thanks for the cleaning duster warning .

@Spector_NS5_RD 7 жыл бұрын

anyone else cringe when he was spinning the platters with those sharp pointy metal tweezers? "oops i slipped", lol. good video.

@whatevernamegoeshere3644 7 жыл бұрын

It was a donor anyways but still

@jaguarke069 7 жыл бұрын

He did it on the data platters as well; Also had a 'don't do that' moment :)

@milkagem 7 жыл бұрын

no, just you, because you're a special snowflake

@radeemer1 6 жыл бұрын

I cringed a bit too, then considered that I would do the exact same thing myself, while thinking, "huh, I probably shouldn't be doing this."

@humbughumbughumbug 5 жыл бұрын

Yes but no. Doing that could maybe spin off any dust (as unlikely as there would be dust) between the platters?

@MrZorbatron 7 жыл бұрын

There was also a trick that worked on some Toshiba 2.5" drives who weren't hard seized. You can heat and cool to remove the bearing cover (little 4-5mm round circle) in the bottom of the spindle motor. You could then add a couple of drops of a light lubricant to the bearing and then replace the cover and heat the bearing unit. Power the drive on while heated, and listen to it sounding almost like new. The agitation in the fluid from the spinning motor will mix the new and old lubricants, preventing the old oil from drying out again. This will give your drive a new lease on life, at least for a few days, which is more than enough to retrieve the content. Obviously do not put the repaired drive back into service. This used to work quite well on the 8025GAX in particular, who had a much larger issue with seizing than the 8025GAS.

@Every-thing-it 5 жыл бұрын

amazing patience and dexterity that guy has! Awesome video, thanks so much guys!

@brentpolk2431 5 жыл бұрын

I've seen the tape method before and I'm glad to see it works!

@GrantsPassTVRepair 7 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. I destroyed a hard drive by not using a head comb. I wish I had seen this video first.

@rossmanngroup 7 жыл бұрын

I always want to teach through remembering the mistakes!

@holocaust_2.0 5 жыл бұрын

Have dead drives handy, because you might not get the head comb right the first, or second or maybe even more tries.

@MHassanMehdi 5 жыл бұрын

me too :(

@SnekSnack 5 жыл бұрын

Also, dont they short out - When they touch?

@Slickbackago 4 жыл бұрын

Same here 🙁 I wish I saw this earlier

@Thorpe 7 жыл бұрын

Please stop putting off that backup folks.

@rossmanngroup 7 жыл бұрын

People can back things up once PC3000 & laminar flow bench paid for themselves!

@doc.voltold4232 7 жыл бұрын

Louis Rossmann if I may ask, how much do you charge for data recovery that involves playing on a donor PCB or more serious shit like this platter swap?

@rossmanngroup 7 жыл бұрын

+Doc. Volt $400-$950.

@doc.voltold4232 7 жыл бұрын

Louis Rossmann I definitely charge too little.

@Thorpe 7 жыл бұрын

Louis Rossmann Nobody needs to endure the torture of what I've just seen! Scotch tape madness.

@ThePhantomSafetyPin 3 жыл бұрын

I know exactly what that thing you're working in is called. It's a Bio-hood, it's a type of sterile fume hood that is used as a clean space. Biologists and people working in medical labs use them to keep things sterile while doing stuff like plating, transferring specimens to vials, and the like. My lab I work in uses ours to transfer body fluid and spinal fluid to smaller containers for testing. I didn't know repair shops for computers also used them for tasks like this!

@MiscRocketVideos 5 жыл бұрын

Very cool to see. Great to see the level of detail you provide. I'll never try it myself, but it was fun to watch. Also, very good to give a shout-out to a high quality employee!

@stumbling 7 жыл бұрын

Okay, so I've poured scotch on the platter, now what do I do with the tape?

@Mascoma79 4 жыл бұрын

lick it

@pentuprager6225 4 жыл бұрын

#IdiotLeftAloneWithKeyboard

@chuckgilly 4 жыл бұрын

Put a 2.5 inch strip on your forehead, then sing Kumbaya, problem fixed, now recover data. You are welcome.

@PinoyDubbedMaster 4 жыл бұрын

Now get a bigger tape, like packing tape. then put it on your mouth :D lol haha just kidding :D

@tomleahy5383 4 жыл бұрын

Add Ice and put yet feet up. Pour another shot, cheers!

@coobird 7 жыл бұрын

You guys (I guess the credit goes to Jason!) make it look so easy that anyone could do it! ;) Of course, it's all the hard work that builds up to it that we don't see, and that's where all the value comes from! :) Awesome job, hope to see more!

@alanr585 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, I just loved watching you do that in real time, cheers Jason!

@DanScottAncientAbandon 4 жыл бұрын

That was amazing work. I'm new to IT but would love to learn more of this kind of stuff. Top notch gentlemen!

@jandonker3587 4 жыл бұрын

From what I understand ( from a Western Digital manual I read 25 years ago ) is that the platter alignment is not that critical. It's just that you don't want to have to wait a full rotation for the sector you want to read when you switch from one platter to the next. There might even be software out there that can help you adjust the alignment.

@dobrin.ivanov Жыл бұрын

so are you saying deviation is ok but small and only in one of the directions?

@geekzombie8795 6 ай бұрын

@@dobrin.ivanovlel

@bigsky1970 7 жыл бұрын

"Fast techno music", the bane of KZfaq help videos.

@Rendraco79 5 жыл бұрын

the skills, the tools and everything has a solution. great job.

@rmonmndoza1537 3 жыл бұрын

watching videos like this is the cause that i still have many hours front at my pc monitor learning. Guys, you are awesome. thank you so much..

@StefanReich 7 жыл бұрын

You know I oscillate between this and the video of the Japanese cook killing a lobster. Something new to learn every day!

@nbrown5907 5 жыл бұрын

Damn it I was sitting here watching this getting nervous then realized that's not my drive lol. Nerve wracking work.

@bolon8200 5 жыл бұрын

you're doing a great job, I know this is an old video but I'm looking at all your videos, thank to know someone knows what he is doing. thank you, Louis.

@srideepprasad 5 жыл бұрын

This guy is gifted... And Louis, you are lucky to have him around.. Both of you form a great team together

@accordingtohonda4308 5 жыл бұрын

You can use a straw (cut into short tubes) instead of the comb. Now you can do this at home without any special tools! :) (yes, this how I did it once... it's stressful)

@Bman130958 4 жыл бұрын

I call bullshit on that claim

@Gavichap 4 жыл бұрын

@@Bman130958 Nope. If the straw plastic is thick and rigid enough that trick could work. Good idea

@lesdude02 6 жыл бұрын

From one tech to another...... Your guys ROCK!!! I recognize the steadiness and dexterity...... it takes one to know one :-D ...... Louis, your spot-on in your assessment of Jason! Thank you, thank you....for your videos.... Louis your the best baby..... Jason superb job, excellent operation.... peace, love and soul to you both.

@tckchannel4435 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, an amazing hard disk recovery job! So steady hands! I would have scratched the media surface with the tweezers with my shaky hands for sure! 5-star to you, Jason! :)

@pyromethious 5 жыл бұрын

As great as this is, I thought that with most drives you needed to have donor drives that are essentially siblings (board compatibility) in part because the on-board components help keep track of the data alignment.

@tonerrr4295 10 ай бұрын

That is also what I thought but I believe I heard about some way of recalibration for the alignment. I'm not too sure though.

@MetalGalacticUnicorn 6 жыл бұрын

I love watching these videos, they are so interesting and really make me want to go into pc hardware repair!

@jenafierro1500 4 жыл бұрын

I think the coolest parts of this channel is really being able to historically track the birth and success of a small business.

@sharpeguns1 5 жыл бұрын

I've learned so much. I'm a newly geek. I'm 60 years old. My business is Horology, Gemology, rare coins, gold , silver, gunsmith, machinest, . I had many companies, deli, grocery. Manufacturer, trucking co, rescue diver and tour guide. Lol. This has been alot of fun. My biggest challenge is making my own tools.

@JoseRodriguez-ti2ii 4 жыл бұрын

I learned how to use scotch tap for high tech repairs.

@MikkoRantalainen 4 жыл бұрын

I find it really interesting that the tape was good enough for this. It looked like it barely had enough stickiness to stay on the side of the platter and you only have one try while moving the platterns. If the tape fails mid-air, you data is gone forever. I'm also surprised to find that laminar airflow box was good enough for this job. How about more recent HDDs having e.g. 6 TB in a single 3.5" drive?

@A-G-F- 3 жыл бұрын

Graphene was literally discovered with the stickyness of the scotch tape, that thing is the greatest thing ever invented

@MElixirDNB Жыл бұрын

the two pieces of tape are spread over some half of the entire circumference, its unlikely it would lose grip on the whole thing at the same time. youre being paranoid. also, blasting a small amount of air would get rid of most dust. the point is to recover the data, not make this a long term use drive again

@vaibhavbiradar9451 5 жыл бұрын

one thing i have realized watching these videos is repairing is as complex as designing..... hats off guys!

@elsaeed747 5 жыл бұрын

Aaaaaaaaah .... very satisfying video. Well done Jason. Very confident. Actually I like the way Louis showed appropriation for Jason being such a self driven person and said that he’s lucky to have him. Top man, Top team.

@chileanguyfleegman1908 4 жыл бұрын

Saeed Sarmadiyan appreciation *, don't think Jason is a slave 😜

@joshedagg Жыл бұрын

Been getting into board repair pretty heavily and it's been a huge source of revenue for my shop! I'm thinking data will be the next good investment I should look into .

@EazyDuz18 4 жыл бұрын

Pointless tutorial, too many expert specialist tools. Scotch tape wtf is that where do I get it?

@meme-lu2yu 4 жыл бұрын

Scotland

@yorumcuturk 3 жыл бұрын

You lucky they have donor hard drive. Otherwise, there are more works !!!!

@oddity4650 3 жыл бұрын

@@yorumcuturk for that have s video showing how go fix a hdd with locking doner parts?

@angelgarcias7328 3 жыл бұрын

My dvr camara put it see the recored saing part no match 1!2 thas saint hard drive it no good or dvr

@Dexter101x 3 жыл бұрын

I could have fixed my drive had I had the right tools and donor drive at the time

@MrArt542 3 жыл бұрын

I bought the same tools with everything direct from China and it cost like $600.00 table for two hard drive swop, platter remover, head remover from 2 up to 4 head.etc etc. I've been doing this for last 12 year's and also have my very own antistatic room zero dust at all. Great job guys.

@user-jv4se8hi8s 6 ай бұрын

Hey do i really need to find the exact specs of harddisk for donor? Like the size of harddisk and model, i want to do plate swap

@MrArt542 6 ай бұрын

@user-jv4se8hi8s I have the same too (As donor) seagate hard drive 2tb with the same firmware, I think is FFCC 27 and I swap the pcb board an the heads will it work...?

@user-jv4se8hi8s 6 ай бұрын

@@MrArt542 is this a question?

@MrArt542 6 ай бұрын

@@user-jv4se8hi8s Yes

@chris01479 4 ай бұрын

@@MrArt542wow, that's awesome. I have got questions. If I build a clean chamber with hprea filter, will it work if I swap the head using the same model, size, first 3 digits of serial number and same firmware version? If it will work, can I use hddsuperclone to clone the hard drive or I still have to use PC3000??

@geraldfleming2810 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Jason & Louis, Well done Jason. Fine work.It puts HDD repairs into perspective. I wish you and your fellow New Yorkers strength in adversity and victory in your perseverance.

@Ms19651502 4 жыл бұрын

Gonna turn the drive on. The drive: REEEEE EEE EEE REE E EE

@trlc768 4 жыл бұрын

Scotch tape got a recent Nobel Prize in physics for the discovery of graphene, Should be good enough for a hard drive!

@daddyattitude 5 жыл бұрын

I was given an mfm drive that quit working. The guy had no backups and would loose his job if he could not get the data recovered. When I started testing you could hear the platters spin up to speed but there was no data being read from the drive. So I spent an hour or so looking for a similar drive, swapped the controller board, that piece you called PC board, and got lucky. Everyone went home happy.

@mrdingus117 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome video I've learned about internal ide drive components and how to keep heads aligned. But honestly this stuff brings a smile to my face. The majority of people would of told you that the drive is dead no hope for recovery.

@sobolanul96 7 жыл бұрын

It pains me to see people who are living their lives clueless. I find it really fun to find out how stuff works, taking things apart and fixing them. I was 13 when I first started troubleshooting computers, installing win95 on dos machines, replacing faulty hardware or changing capacitors on 64MB graphics cards. Some time ago I managed to unstick a frozen platter motor my tapping it with a screwdriver. Funny story: Last week I couldn't find my smartphone screwdriver bits and guys were waiting for me to go for a beer. I found the things just as I was leaving. You should have seen their faces when I replaced the faulty flash led in my phone while drinking beer at the bar.

@sobolanul96 7 жыл бұрын

That's exactly the thing. It is nothing special, I keep telling people that what I am doing is mostly logic thinking(something that every living person should be able to do from birth). To be able to fix something you need a very basic knowledge of how stuff works and some logic thinking. You don't need to be a professional smartphone repair guy to take out two screws, crack open a phone case(with bare hands) and replace a 10$ led that doesn't even need soldering. For me, pc repair is just a hobby, and you know what? 90% of the money I make this way are from 10min to half an hour "repairs" that don't even require tools. And you know what is really sad? I've had pc's that were previously sent to warranty or service shops and the "repairs" they made were worthy of a trained monkey.

@thejavaman53 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah I had to do the same with my n97 many years ago . but instead of changing the led I had to reroute the earpiece speaker to the motherboard with the magnetic wire and that was a success. My brother still reminds me of that incidence how I was able to do that so easily while being intoxicated. I assume some people tend to be sharper when they are drunk ;-)

@canuck21 7 жыл бұрын

Everyone has their own interests. You may be knowledgeable with computer parts and electronics, but I'm sure you're clueless in some other subjects. No one knows everything.

@thejavaman53 7 жыл бұрын

Not knowing something or anything is never an excuse . We can always learn what we dont know. Human brains are made to learn and gain knowledge and not to stay away from the problems. However, I think @canuck21 has a very valid point, "No one Knows Everything". Speaking of which i would like to say that I don't know two things and they are " Being Idiot and making excuse for not knowing something".

@jackkraken3888 7 жыл бұрын

side note: If you have damaged hard drives lying around, you can open them up and use the hard drive platters as mirrors and the neodymium magnets for anything that needs magnets.

@Hostile_Design 5 жыл бұрын

The platters are perfect for setting up the cross polarization for your 3D scans ;).

@geekzombie8795 6 ай бұрын

@@Hostile_Design?

@rflournoy 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing that you were able to transfer platters like that!

@HashRL 5 жыл бұрын

Gosh!!! This boy is an artist... awesome way to swap platters

@rars0n 6 жыл бұрын

Great video! Data recovery is an area where I've been trying to improve my abilities. I have a few software solutions that I've used to good effect but they only get me so far. I've experimented on garbage drives by taking them apart basically just to look inside, familiarizing myself with a lot of the parts. I also have a hot air/soldering station that I've used to swap ROM chips off PCBs with matching information to some success. I'm very appreciative of you showing the methods used in this video. I do not have a clean room nor an air cabinet, although naturally when I see these kinds of things in your videos, I have to pause and spend way too much time looking into these things. So when I heard Jason talking about PC-3000 and seeing him use the software I naturally got very interested. It sounds like a very useful tool, although from what I've read the price is quite high. I don't doubt the quality or effectiveness of it though; I imagine it will pay for itself rather quickly. I am currently sending customers away to a big company that gives referral money but I want to stop doing that. I can make more money if I can get the data myself, while charging the customer significantly less. It's probably not a good idea to try swapping platters out in the open in my dusty, dirty shop but that scotch tape method has my brain giggling for joy in how simple it is (I've looked at the cost of hard drive repair equipment and it's a bad joke), so I'll probably do some experimenting anyway with some leftover drives. Thank you so much for your videos. I enjoy them so much, I spend much of my free time just watching them and trying to soak up everything I can. I'm definitely going to be checking out HDD Recovery Services' KZfaq channel as well!

@mistervoice511 7 жыл бұрын

Nice to see a few mysteries and myths of the tricks of the trade revealed,Very well explained, educational and informative. Just a friendly suggestion though....you might want to consider investing in some video editing software and a few camera operator lessons, as there were quite a few long periods where the camera was pointed off in a direction away from the action and/or was greatly of focus. And transitions from the work bench to the Air Science cabinet and back were a tad clunky to say the least. Video editing software would have also allowed you to censor out the disk content on the screen without having to also block out all of the other activity going on in the shot. A well shot and edited video not only makes you and your business look more experienced and professional, it also makes the subject of your video much easier to follow and understand as well.

@FrobergDK 4 жыл бұрын

ALL his videos are like this. It's really the one frustrating thing about this channel. I imagine a decent camera guy would net a few million subscribers in no time.

@Lousy_Bastard 4 жыл бұрын

Some people's children.

@robert1589 4 жыл бұрын

That was an amazing piece of micro-mechanical acrobatics. Fantastic!

@redwingblackbird8306 5 жыл бұрын

Two things that I might be concerned about. Using the tweezers to test the spin of the platters, I could see accidentally scratching a platter. Second thing, the watch on his arm, same thing, I'd just be worried about bumping something with it, causing a problem. Pretty cool to see how you go about it, though.

@hamzahaytham3940 4 жыл бұрын

32:37 DRD: _Dis Drive Ready_

@GameOver-rl1xx 7 жыл бұрын

i love how jason has learned to even talk like you Louis lol awesome video keep up the good work!

@ShamblerDK 6 жыл бұрын

As a guy working with computers repairs, these videos are extremely valuable to me and I might learn stuff that will move me to a higher paygrade. Thank you, Louis. If I ever meet you, I'd love to have a chat with you. Mainly to shake your hand and thank you in person.

@petesapwell 5 жыл бұрын

Give that man a cigar!, brilliant work! so calm and measured. Worth more than your paying him Louis. Seriously a credit, beautifully done. :)

@pldaniels 7 жыл бұрын

You're going to continue with the tradition of really p*ssing off a lof of pro's and causing them an aneurysm using the scotch tape trick, and I don't doubt you're going to come up with a lot of other "non-pro" methods in the time ahead which will work fine. Bearing swap gear / gigs are out there for $$$$, or scotch tape :D Looking forward to the progress over the course of a few months - excellent :)

@rossmanngroup 7 жыл бұрын

I can't wait to see the comments on that.... I wasn't aware until we went to record that he is using scotch tape...

@erhanzeynel 7 жыл бұрын

Wait for the HDD's with scotch tape on data surface of discs. ;)

@SeptrothFFXI 7 жыл бұрын

Paul Daniels I've seen platens that have a little alignment mark on the edge. Mostly inside western digital drives

@pldaniels 7 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't like to rely on that visually, would rather hope there would be an laser/sensor driven servo that instead rotates the platter until perfect alignment, definitely not something I'd like to see done by human hands. Not sure why they'd have those interestingly, since from a factory assembly perspective it has no purpose.

@erhanzeynel 7 жыл бұрын

I know as that alignment starts in HDD's first powerup in factory. Before that powerup, plates are pure blank. If you know old firmware ıssues of stuck on BSY seagate discs and how to recover HDD hardware (on many cases unable to recover data without surgery) that commands may re align the harddisk. Also that alignment isn't depend about any kind of mark.

@uNople 7 жыл бұрын

22:00 all that stress, holy shit

@JasonCarr1979 7 жыл бұрын

I know. I've watched it a couple times and can't contain myself. I personally think he should have used at minimum 4 pieces of tape.

@davepowell1521 5 жыл бұрын

Brilliant content! And how good of you to let and in fact highlight your employees business!

@D3cker1 5 жыл бұрын

Amazing video, thanks Louis and Jason for this... This is quality content :)

@ripbozo941 7 жыл бұрын

"spinning rust" Wendle the legend

@gnarlin4964 7 жыл бұрын

It's Wendel.

@ripbozo941 7 жыл бұрын

gnarlin weedle

@pentuprager6225 4 жыл бұрын

22:43 since when do nuts come unthreaded and needing a screw to hold them in place?

@shyakajbk 2 жыл бұрын

Nice Job guys. I love that teamwork effectiveness and the cohesion 👍

@bienbalajadia8345 5 жыл бұрын

Genius! wish I saw this video sooner. So mad at myself for not figuring this out before.

@ryan-zp4fe 7 жыл бұрын

Dude I love you vids

@rossmanngroup 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@digitsdigitsdigits808 7 жыл бұрын

Is curiosity that rare? Figuring shit out is the fun part in my opinion, though admittedly I'm more here for the business stuff than the hardware service stuff. If I don't get that dopamine rush from working something out, it means it's not the job for me. That's why I'm going back to college to be a mathematician. I absolutely love figuring out a novel math problem, using stuff I know to demonstrate a new truth. I don't get that dopamine rush from repairing computers, so I'm not gunning for a career doing it. Is that really something many people don't realize? I wonder how many of them are fucking miserable.

@rossmanngroup 7 жыл бұрын

Most people I've met barely scratch the surface of life, doing the absolute minimum to feed themselves and not die, with no curiosity about anything that requires learning, confrontation, or work.

@stevenqiu2013 7 жыл бұрын

"Zombies sleepwalking through life." I wonder if I am a zombie too...

@merlin2600 7 жыл бұрын

I assure you it is rare. Most people can't be bothered. They just want to do the bare minimum requested to get their money, go back home and watch TV. For a job, I had an interview with a shrink who just couldn't understand that I could be interested in "computer stuff" because there was always more to learn and discover. Having to always learn new stuff seemed completely alien to her... Note that a lot of people also just don't like their job.

@evilplaguedoctor5158 7 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I have to agree with Louis, maybe on this channel it's not that rare, but as someone who has tried several times to hire help, I only just this last few months found someone with those traits that I can rely on. (and boy does it ever help a lot!)

@shapshooter7769 7 жыл бұрын

As for math problems, there are plenty in engineering. For example, building signal filters for signals processing requires crazy s-domain (complex) math that I'm trying to figure out. Fun to read about, but quite a rabbit hole in of itself. If it wasn't then it wouldn't be a profession.

@TheDiamondSquidy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, just recently damaged my hdd and needed to do a platter swap, learnt some important stuff i didnt know before

@DjSadhu 4 жыл бұрын

Love to hear you talk about your employees like that

@imdoug 7 жыл бұрын

Sorry if I missed it but can it just be any same-RPM IDE two-platter drive that can be used as the donor drive?

@XSpImmaLion 7 жыл бұрын

You usually need the exact same model, unfortunately... don't trust me, hope for a direct answer. But as far as I know, HDD manufacturing these days can be so diverse that even if you have same number of platters, same capacity and same brand from the same period, they could be made in different factories with different assemblies.

@stevenqiu2013 7 жыл бұрын

Where did you get that information?

@pldaniels 7 жыл бұрын

Definitely need the same model drive.

@loonsoondoon 7 жыл бұрын

f*ck!

@XSpImmaLion 7 жыл бұрын

Steven Qiu T'was from another HDD repair channel, but I can't remember the specific video right now, sorry. Not 100% sure

@ptrix 7 жыл бұрын

i'll bet that in 3-5 years, Jason could be doing this kind of stuff on hard drives recovered by the FBI for their criminal investigations. he was PRO AF.

@lerkzor 5 жыл бұрын

very cool, and I'm glad the operation was a success. I was under the impression that many of the fasteners in a HDD required a very specific torque, and that the drive would not function properly if the fasteners were not torqued to spec ... that must have been for a specific drive, or perhaps a specific manufacturer. Regrettably, I can't find that video again, so I have no more specific data to add. Again, glad it worked!