I appreciate the Steggler’s Steggler review on the Steggler.

Massad might have an aneurism watching that slide drop on an empty chamber (massad saying meow in the background like a kitty kat)

This is probably one of the best Staccato reviews I’ve seen. Most people love or hate them without really shooting them that much. Looking forward on your thoughts on the P.

The comment "maybe i just need to practice more" had me grinning.... especially after watching you drill with it

The gun review she tells you not to worry about out

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Solid review. For 99% of people, the gun really doesn't matter. It's the same 9mm round in every single gun anyway. You could be a great shooter with a stock Glock, and shoot way better than someone who has the latest and greatest / most tricked out 2011 in the world but only shoots a box of ammo once or twice year. I'd say any Staccato is a good albeit expensive option for someone who is looking to begin their little journey outward from the more ubiquitous "starter pack" striker-fired polymer guns, but doesn't want to drop $4k+ for something truly niche and custom. Basically a hobbyist / enthusiast purchase to have fun with every once in awhile, and nothing else. And if it's for duty use, it's a fine option, but moreso a flex / status thing depending on your agency's culture, since it doesn't do anything a Glock or a Smith already does.

Ima continue to keep saying, the XC is the best bang for your buck comp'ed 2011 from factory.(Atlas Erebus/Sandviper TTI/TRS Comp)

@benstoeger U can order the xc with the duty springs, u got the copetition springs. U have to ask for the duty sorings when u order.

Good review. I think there is sort of a third and half type of user who is familiar with pistols and wants to buy something top of the line-ish but still a production gun with lots of support, access to mags, not a two year wait, etc. That gives them something to use and improve where they know it probably isn't the gun's fault if something goes wrong (assuming it is lubed and sprung properly), but if it is the gun it is easy to send it back for repair.

Bro I seen you doing drills with it earlier. You should have been hired by them to do commercials for it lol

I've been carrying the XC on duty for several months now after my admin opened up our policy to Staccatos. Staccato recommended a 10lbs recoil spring and I'm running about a 4-4.5 lbs trigger. I've had no issues so far. One thing I will say is this pistol needs care, I check to make sure it is properly oiled before every shift.

Objective review for both sides of the conversation was nicely done.

I like the journey of the review. Best review of a gun I’ve seen. Vs a fully edited and manufactured review. Creates authenticity

Thanks for sharing an honest, objective, experiential review.

I really enjoy your attitude to life-in-general and the way you talk about things.

Great, honest overview. Thanks dude!

Great review with objective reason and logic as basis.

Great review! Super fair and I didn’t feel like someone trying really hard to convince me to buy or not to buy a product…

If you can afford it and like quality guns it’s worth every penny

I like the balanced take. Thanks

With a C2, reliability significantly increased when I started using gun grease on the rails. Prior to that, I used oil on the rails and the C2 would start to "run dry" after 500 or so rounds; I would feel it "slowing down". I started using gun grease after the first year of ownership, and the C2 is now as reliable as a Shadow 2.

16k ish rounds of ball 9mm or an XC, tough call for sure......

Reasonable take. Re comfort, I had to install an extended safety on my P to get it to feel good in my hands.🤷🏻‍♂️

very enjoyable info, I appreciate your Knowledge of This Gun and You seem to be a real Pro lol

A few of us carried STI"s on our entry teams. It's a good duty gun for guys that train.😎 NOT a good duty gun for the guy that only shoots at qualification. 😉

I'm a big fan of 2011, and that XC is on the dream list. ngl, I'm on the fanboy side, really hoping it didn't blow up! I've really enjoyed your impressions as a great shooter checking out a different platform. Thanks.

I always enjoy your well thought out and experience-based opinions. Thanks

I know USPSA is much more popular, and this would be an open gun in uspsa , but this gun is legal in IDPA Carry Optics. We have about 6 of them in my club.

I say this as somebody who cannot afford a Staccato XC. I have a Prodigy. But the main group of people who say "Staccatos are stupid, they are way too over expensive" are generally the same guys who view guns purely as defensive tools and say "The staccato cant save my life any more than my $400 pistol can". Now, Do i think the Staccato is overpriced compared to other 2011s on the market? Probably, but its not nearly as far out of whack as people want to pretend it is.

The DLC is a damn good finish. The 2.5lb trigger is fine for duty. My only complaint is grip size and texture. A little smaller and a lot more aggressive would be perfect. Think Platypus with the extra agressive prickle texture.

I was about to buy one. Got a DWX instead...yes, had to ship the slide off to have it milled for red dot but the grip fit is better AND it doesn't come from the factory with a plastic trigger. Plastic on a big spend? IDK. I'm very happy with the DWX for a good amout saved.

I look forward to the "Lil Stegs" review when the P comes in 🤣

Hello, Ben. I’ve enjoyed your show for awhile, and really liked the Staccato XC review. What weight bullets performed best for you after the 11 lb spring change?

Now Stealth Arms Platypus!

I don’t really have a dog in the fight either way, and I still believe that there are better duty pistols out there as far as reliability and maintenance requirements. But there’s no question that it’s a gun that the average trainee can learn to shoot really well due to its low recoil and accuracy. Shootability matters too, and reliability is probably acceptable, even if it’s not the absolute best.

I have a 9 lb recoil spring in mine and it runs flawlessly and my groups are insanely good. I run her with militec gun oil as well. The only other change is the atlas dlc guide rod.

Now go to the opposite end and try a staccato cs or Wilson combat edc

Hey Ben, love your videos and all your tips on shooting!! They have helped me immensely!! Been enjoying your videos on the Staccato, super cool!!. However as just an everyday shooter I'd like to be able to get my hands on a 507 comp or SRO or a mounting plate for an SRO to CZ Shadow 2. All these are sold out for months...yet you get a staccato with a 507 in a few weeks. Can you help us new-bees get the good gear more fast?!?

There it is… Staccato XC, it is functional

Solid review . Still on the fence about it as a duty gun compared to something like a Glock 17 etc...

Agreed

Great review! Would you consider a comparison to a comparable model of the Bul Armory SAS II?

Great video. Are you able to share any performance gain data compared to other guns like glocks? Split times? Bill drills? Dickens drills? Anything like that? Would be very interesting.

As always, honest comment without marketing constraints. Too bad that toy costs almost €10k in Italy otherwise I would have tried it 😅

Hey bruh how are you? I must say wish more reviewers were like you not nit picking about every damn thing either you want the damn pistol or not especially those that get the pistols not paying a damn dime for it and acting as if they are experts who can barely shoot. I'm a 1911 guy and what I found to be the only issues I have with 2011 or DS pistols is the mag releases and slide stop/release seems to be a bit out of reach other than that I love them. Great review bruh...😎

I have a Stacatto P and I like it but I had to put more money into it to make it shootable for my small hands, new short trigger, grip reduction, and atlas high ride safeties. I bought an Atlas Athena and it fit my hand better out of the box than the Stacatto. Both shoot well, Atlas slide is so much smoother though

Every five inch 9mm 1911/2011 I've handled has been undersprung. The manufacturers do this to enhance the soft shooting experience everyone wants. But, it doesn't aid reliability. I've installed at least an eleven pound spring in every one. One thing that seems to have dropped from common knowledge is that all metal guns, with long bearing surfaces, need lubrication. Quite unlike a plastic fantastic. Being an old geezer, this is known to me. :) As a retired cop with 40+ years behind the 1911, I'd never consider that expensive chunk for a duty weapon. Nice review Ben.

Ben, do you think the XC would be reliable with a 9# recoil spring, or the 11# was necessary?

I'm probably going to sell my P and get an XC. People who can't shoot well won't benefit much from a staccato. If you can tell the performance difference between a 2011 and a Glock, the money makes sense. The XC is a bit overpriced imo compared to the P but nice things cost money. Luxury items are just nice to own. A Rolex, a fancy sports car, a staccato etc.. if you can afford it, enjoy your nice things.

If you want to be legit good at shooting - put your time, money and energy in to ammunition a dry fire book and a range membership. If you want to have a really cool gun - buy a Staccato.

Steggler, please recommend someone to train with in CA. I’m near Santa Barbara but will travel.

can you make a video of how to zero your red dot and what distance you use?

Excited to see you do the same with the P. They ship with a heavier spring so I’m hoping you find it exceptional right out of the box

Just wait till Ben discovers the Stealth Arms platypus.

Yes. If you can afford it.

Who makes the belt you were raving about recently? Can't find the vid

dawson used to sell a custom sti that was probably a better gun for less than half that. john wick or inflation?

I think I want to be a better shooter first I struggle with trigger control locking my wrists but I will get one eventually

Having owned one for a few years and having several thousands of rounds through it. I think the gun is useless. It isn’t legal for any competitions except open class. And it’s not good enough for that. It’s huge so you don’t carry it. But having said all that; buy one. I’ve never regretted it. Purely a range you and I compete with it. I’m just not competitive (still have fun though).

Money wise? P, yes. XC, probably not.

Every time I try one of these custom/semi custom 2011's Taran Tactical Sandviper, Vudoo Priest, etc my initial reaction is always "DAMN this gun shoots great! How much is it?" and then they tell me and I get sad.

Is there any reason to try concealed carrying this or the P, maybe with the magwell removed?

You ever come up to Maine or around here? Im sold on taking one of your classes!

Rem oil? Ben uses that water?

I'd like to shoot one, but I don't know if I'd put up that kind of money for a gun that shoots 9mm. I'm quite happy with my Glock 17. Maybe one day when I have more money than sense lol. Anyway, solid review from someone that I know used and abused their Staccato. I thought they were pretty stupid before, but as you said, they have their place and if you can afford it, why not?

Now buy a Stealth arms platypus!!!!

I would still make mental errors running stages with a Staccato. It's a very sad story. :) Until my stage planning improves, I'll continue to run a Glock.

Anybody know at what distance he zeroes his red dot?

Hi Ben, I’m looking to get an XC and if you want to sell yours, I would be interested.

Hey Ben what are your thoughts on having XC as a sport pistol, let's say upgrading from Glock. Thanks much

I've shot comped guns from retention...not a problem. People who complain about it are nitpicking or deliberately creating a situation where it becomes a problem.

In my OPINION, as a LE duty sidearm, no it doesn't make sense at all. That is not saying that there is something wrong with the pistol or that is not worth buying. It will only be justified in a really small agency with a really big budget. Or a LEO that have more money that he makes as LEO.

It’s been three days without Ben:(

Would you actually enter an open competition with that gun? Could you place?

Not relevant to the video but thoughts on 17 vs 34 for carry optics? I’ve been running a stock 17 and want to get another one for carry optics.

Staccato h8rs in shambles rn

but did it Steggle?

So when are you gonna grab an Erebus for comparison? 😉

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Would love to get your take on the Stealth Arms Platypus like you did with the XC.

It’s been 4 days since a vid from the steggler. I’m hoping he is just enjoying his time back at his home for a short time but I’m starting to have withdrawals

I think the guns are awesome but I'm in the camp of thought that they are definitely overpriced by some greedy schmuck at that company who controls the pricing. The materials alone are less than $350/400, not including the kickback a manufacturer gets for the scrap material they turn in that can't be used. The 2011's that are priced around $1k to $1500 are realistic in pricing. Being the owner of a few STI-era guns, they are really nice, but they aren't the ultimate hammer fired double stack platform. It's all in taste and how much of that Kool-Aid you're willing to drink LOL

Summary at 16:16

The Shadow 2 will do 90% of what the XP can do for less than half the price.

Hayes Custom Cobra for little more

Would it be wrong to say a Duty gun should be something with virtually no maintenance like a Glock?

Have you tried a Wilson Combat EDC X9? I love mine and it's not as expensive as the Staccato....about $2500 with their 20% off deal. BTW, I've heard quite often that dropping the slide on an empty chamber is a major no-no with these guns. I'm far from an expert so take that for what it's worth. Great video series!

So, what's next?

😂 @ “the people who think a punisher skull is a good idea”

XL XL XL

Lot of cops carrying the P

Great review. Duty pistol…I remain sceptical. How many LEO can afford it? Cops require pistols built like 4x4s

To be fair… pretty much everyone has seen John Wick lol

Lead in the comp ?

The p looks much better than the xc

For most part he is right. Sold my Cz orange to fund my 2011 and instantly regretted it. They are not duty ready. Vogel started with one and ditched it for Glock and never looked back.

perfect timing im drinking rhum

Rem oil boys assemble!

Another thought, on grip feel, grip safety, I'm thinking Cheely aluminum E2 grip with pinned safety.😂 Im incapable of leaving anything stock. Its a disease.