Elden Ring DLC PvP Invasions - Messmer's Spear and Incantations are TOP TIER

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Ай бұрын

SKIP BUILD: 0:11
I would never advise to use a Soreseal, the extra damage is really annoying, but I couldn't find another solution at RL 150. Rain of Fire does 0 damage so I left it out. I mixed in Rotten Buterflies to test (absolutely useless, slow windup, no damage and no rot so it seems) and Pest Threads Spear to have some option to my only 2 spells.

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@alastortheworshipperofkhorne Ай бұрын

Really wish there were more messmer Incantations

@SZMarcos Ай бұрын

It would have been better if they added less new stuff, but made them all more varied and complete.

@alastortheworshipperofkhorne Ай бұрын

@@SZMarcos I sorta agree but I wanted the new class of spells to have more variety too but yeah it would've been nice if the other school of spells and Incantations have more new stuff

@equestrianmidnight5619 Ай бұрын

@@SZMarcosPersonally, I wish they expanded upon the base game incantations rather than adding new ones. But they did with not a lot of love for the existing schools. That, among other reasons, makes this DLC kind of feel like a mod to me. It doesn’t make the game feel more complete, I feel like it did the reverse in a way.

@SZMarcos Ай бұрын

@@equestrianmidnight5619 I'm inclined to agree, unfortunately. To me the DLC is a good example of feature bloat.

@derekbush5894 Ай бұрын

You got plenty they lack my lightning so atleast you win

@jackparkansky7430 22 күн бұрын

Every person that died to the spear eruption definitely hasnt fought Messmer yet LOL

@firestoneandcollusionthely2648 15 күн бұрын

Did you know that you can dodge into that and backstab

@user-rz6jp9xhfg 26 күн бұрын

... In Messmer's flame.

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 25 күн бұрын

I heard that way to often🙂

@AkosKovacs.Author.Musician Ай бұрын

Messmer's Orb is the Eruption we all wished for.

@jackparkansky7430 25 күн бұрын

This is by far the most satisfying pvp video for ER i have watched. The evil cackles make it even better LOL

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 25 күн бұрын

Thank you so much, todays video will probably make you happy in this regard 🙂

@farg0th_ Ай бұрын

the evil laughter really cements the build lmao 😭

@LONERZ Ай бұрын

Omg, Messmer's set is *FIRE*, i'll have fun watching this!

@HeartOfHallownest Ай бұрын

5:59 that was sick

@smolfish450 Ай бұрын

tried this today, already got some insane clips lmao thanks for the vid

@TheAzul_Indigo Ай бұрын

That spear really is press L2 to win lol. I hadn’t seen the orb spell yet, it looks awesome! Ive been doing a cosplay fire knight and was pleasantly surprised by how well the fire knight seal scales at high faith. I really like fire serpent, but rain of fire is hot garbage which I’m sad about.

@alastortheworshipperofkhorne Ай бұрын

Yeah rain of fire is sad especially when it see a enemy basically using it but better and had more damage

@ant3910 Ай бұрын

Yep fuck I’m afraid there will be casuals abuse it and then everyone treats it like RoB, then when I use it for fun and gets hate

@ORCA1739 Ай бұрын

I just wish base moveset was faster i mainly use the spear to head over to someone hwne they run I usually catch up and accidentaly kill them.

@mattmichael3310 27 күн бұрын

It's really not. Only bad players will be caught with it consistently.

@TheAzul_Indigo 27 күн бұрын

@@ORCA1739 Swift spear r1’s would have been nice

@llawlied6902 Ай бұрын

Just what I wanted to see thanks man

@AtticusCroteau-jo9xb Ай бұрын

I heard you’re evil cackling every now and then the spear is so cool

@Ezekiel_Allium Ай бұрын

Massive props for trying to make rotten butterflies work

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

I was looking forward to that spell since the trailer and then this huge disappointment. Also even if it would work, it would just be a different style Scarlet Aeonia. I hope they buff and change it in some way.

@Tory-JJ 29 күн бұрын

The scarlet spells suck but the ashe if war isn't too bad

@Ezekiel_Allium 29 күн бұрын

@@Tory-JJ Is the new split missile pest threads bad as well? Haven't tried that one out yet

@llawlied6902 25 күн бұрын

Are you gonna make a video with the knight lightning spear? It's also buffed by the death knight Armor Surprisingly effective in PvP it either hits fully or they dodge the first and the other lightning spears get them got a few wins with it already

@SZMarcos Ай бұрын

Maybe next time mix it up with giant incantations to create an overall fiery theme.

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

Of course I will at some point but I really wanted to focus on the new spells first 🙂

@SZMarcos Ай бұрын

@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 fair enough!

@RabidGummyBear Ай бұрын

Very nice! Hopefully i see you out there. Would be nice to have a fellow invader thats not brain dead and can hold his own.

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

This week is invasions all along 🙂and already doing NG for Bayle's, man it is annoying.

@mastercat8849 Ай бұрын

nice cosplay invasions! keep it up fellow red bro! does damage from soreseal gets increased same big as in vanilla?

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

Thank you so much 🙂 yes, it's still 15% more damage taken.

@mastercat8849 29 күн бұрын

@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 i see, thx for the info, gona try your build too now ;P really adore that you are not afraid of usin soreseals! red bros stay strong! your chuckle on invasions behind the scenes made my day =D

@JohnVicres Ай бұрын

man you gotta add those other messmer aows with the fire knight weapons, they're too cool to pass! Also trade some of that faith for stamina for the love of God

@SZMarcos Ай бұрын

No way, dude. Give me that powah.

@ORCA1739 Ай бұрын

The incant requires 60 faith

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

Nah I can't without 80 faith. This video was to try out these nice new things🙂I would mix them with Fire Giant incantations normally.

@The_Fearshredder4444 Ай бұрын

It's funny how no body knows how to dodge the serpent fire spell yet.

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

Everything is new :)

@SunlightAldo 2 күн бұрын

something i love about the fire serpent is how great it combos with Rykards Rancor. i put up the flaming skull as a distraction and immediately use the serpent and it lands 9/10 times.

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Күн бұрын

Sounds like a good combo but at what level (thinking the requirements both spells need to be effective).

@SunlightAldo Күн бұрын

@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 oh im RL150 i run 40 40 on faith and int with the gelmir staff and the order seal. its probably not the highest damage i can be getting but as someone who loves the magma sorceries ill try anything to make them work lmao. i also got 60 vigor and the other stats i put into my minimum weapon requirements and mana/stamina. im using the cold Lizard great sword but im sure theres better weapons. im just a fan of the lizard lick 😂

@wt891 28 күн бұрын

Looks fun! What do you think the best incantations are now for pvp?

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 28 күн бұрын

1. Dragon Cult 2. Holy 3. Madness / FG / Messmer.

@wt891 28 күн бұрын

@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 makes sense, can I also ask what you think the best sorceries are?

@SZMarcos Ай бұрын

Messmer's weapon and spells are really cool, I have to admit. I'm pretty sure they'll nerf the orb and spear a bit in the future though

@SZMarcos Ай бұрын

But to be fair if they haven't nerfed dragon cult incantations that can one-shot bosses, they may not in this case either.

@ant3910 Ай бұрын

If it’s means to prevent the build from becoming hated like RoB, fine by me as long as it not increase fp cost😂

@tannerkennedy4192 Ай бұрын

I hope they don’t mesmer orb is super cool and fun and I don’t think it’s op cause one hit and you get knocked out of it

@ChuckFinelyForever Ай бұрын

There’s quite a few things that needs nerfing in the dlc

@tannerkennedy4192 Ай бұрын

@@ChuckFinelyForever and also a number of things that needs buffing

@sSyphoNizeOffical 21 күн бұрын

6:17 That mania filled laugh

@user-rz6jp9xhfg 21 күн бұрын

6:11 His Excellency Messmer personally comes down to the castle and incinerates the corrupted-pig hunters 🔥🫠🫠🔥

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 20 күн бұрын

Hahaha I really missed your comments!

@victorhugo-rf7py 24 күн бұрын

Insane invasions ...I mean it does look super cool

@alfonsocruz6100 14 күн бұрын

Any advice on starting class and early game Weapons and Equipment??

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 14 күн бұрын

Do you mean in general or regarding this build? 🙂

@alfonsocruz6100 14 күн бұрын

@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 well, this build obviously looks like a post game build, or at least past the mid game haha Any advice for what incantations and equipment could work early game? I just started a new character to try your build, I liked it a lot

@florianmuller12 Ай бұрын

Tbh ash of war from that weapon is like an Boss attack combo u have to perfectly roll to not die

@hobosorcerer 17 күн бұрын

Then there's rain of fire, crying in the corner.

@adamiadamiadami Ай бұрын

That soreseal at 150 is nuts. You could just not have your faith at 80, perhaps you could even drop your incant boosting ring for malenia's hand which gives you 5 dex and a dmg boost for your ash of war. Soreseal is really not worth it under any circumstance over level 80 or 90.

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

I explicit say I advise against using it, I just chose to do so in this video cause I wanted high damage output on incants and the AoW. It is that simple.

@adamiadamiadami Ай бұрын

@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Still, there are better solutions I think. Not that I'm saying your build doesn't work, but soreseal contributes to making it a one trick pony. If you had faced more competent players instead of the average PvEr you'd need more survivability. You got nearly 2 shot by every Kevin in the video. I have a similar build at sl138 and it works pretty well. Just my 2 cents though

@dw7080 29 күн бұрын

@@adamiadamiadami what were your stats?

@agopessimist1335 Ай бұрын

Seems like going Dex/Faith is really one of the go-to builds in the DLC lol. So many options for Dex and Faith users, as well as quality. Would adding Radagon’s Icon help with casting speed for Messmer’s orb? It’s pretty strong but seems really slow

@SZMarcos Ай бұрын

It should... But it's probably better to use it as a sneaky spell, otherwise they might just keep interrupting you...

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

Both Radagons and Godfreys work with Messmers Orb since it is chargeable. The noncharged version is pretty fast!

@nxvh9062 Ай бұрын

dex/faith/arc has always been one of the best archetypes, top 3 imo along with dex/int, str/fai

@vitormalgarise Ай бұрын

About to make a Flame God build with messmers incantations and fire giant

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

Yeah I had the same idea but I really wanted to focus on and test Messmers first.

@Louievslug_ Ай бұрын

love this build

@GoToBedSheeva Ай бұрын

Does the spell naturally do that little twist curve or can it change directions at the last minute?

@adrien4337 Ай бұрын

the tiny orb auto target. the big one when you jump in the air can be tilted in a direction at the last minute

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

The Fire Serpent always does the twist.

@GoToBedSheeva Ай бұрын

@@adrien4337 that’s really cool!

@badacid8685 19 күн бұрын

4:51 bro's fate was sealed 😂

@itsyourboilance9511 Ай бұрын

Hey could I request a invasion build using both the sword of light and the sword of darkness power stanced

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

Noted but probably not to soon. One scales with faith the other doesn't which also makes my brain malfunction. But let's see!

@joeljokivuori1059 Ай бұрын

@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 huh, dont they both scale with fth for holy damage?

@gunsevenwhillans420 24 күн бұрын

Praying to God Rain of Fire and (preferably since it's literally just an INT reskin of the same spell) Founding Rain of Stars get buffed in the next patch

@whiteweeb864 28 күн бұрын

I wish there wasn't so many niche magic types. Oh boy, a an outfit to boost blood magic, when there's only 6 of those spells, maybe. I'm really disappointed in the lack of pure magics, most new spells need faith to cast. I was really hoping to see some glintstone magic kinda themed faith spells because of miq's knights are carian knights who learned faith. There is 14 new sorcery spells, at most 9 spells that need an intelligence req, the other 5 need faith.

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 28 күн бұрын

I think they filled up on int/faith because the basegame had so many pure int spells. I would also have wished for more but still happy with what we got🙂

@cridus_ 26 күн бұрын

is the charged R2 bad? I can see the normal R2 being not so great, with that bad tracking.

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 25 күн бұрын

I would say it is decent, the tracking lets you indeed down often. Good against casters maybe.

@llawlied6902 25 күн бұрын

Damage is damn low my +7 gets just 49 damage on a normal and just a bit more on a charged throw, doesn't seem worth it just use the first part of the L2 as heavy

@LONERZ Ай бұрын

Rabbits, do you think that Messmer's assault will be nerfed?

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

I wouldn't see why tbh. Yes, it is good, but I also experienced RoB gamerelease state and it doesn't compare. It is easily staggerable and also dodgeable. Death Knights Axe is another story, check out my next video, 1 clip will show what I mean. It is just so strong.

@LONERZ Ай бұрын

@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Sure, i'm just wondering, cuz i myself didn't see yet these weapons in my gameplay, i'm still in rellana, i'm not playing too often.

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

@@LONERZ Really sorry if I spoiler it for you but I really enjoy to invade and test all the new stuff 🙂next video could be another possible spoiler :(

@LONERZ Ай бұрын

@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 There's no need to apologize. I love your content, besides i got spoilers from the whole dlc before you posted the video, and the fact i'm not feeling like playing the dlc from now ( i don't know why), but i'm so eager to watch more of your invasion videos :D.

@MOHAND80s 6 күн бұрын

That’s evil laugh 6:18

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 4 күн бұрын

I have to agree 🙂

@setsuna5919 Ай бұрын

Its like watching new engine competing against old engine 😂

@dejawukong Ай бұрын

Gonna try this out :D does it work in pve at all or is it all pvp?

@adrien4337 Ай бұрын

i don't know for PvP but in PvE , the spear loons like a good looking weapon but bad weapon sadly. the spear base moveset outside the ash of war, kind of s*** in addition to the not crazy damage and the fact that you will never be able to end the crazy aow combo against most ennemies in the game. Do yourself a favor buy the messmer orb instead the spear. at least you can kill malenia with it.

@dejawukong Ай бұрын

@@adrien4337 been using the spear so far in pve and it's alright. The light attacks are pretty basic but the charge heavy and ash are pretty solid. I have a Dex/faith build ATM so my dmg is a little mixed but it's working for what I need right now

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

Haven't tried it out in PvE but I believe the Orb will do good against smaller enemies.

@dejawukong Ай бұрын

@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 sweet I'll try it out and let you know

@TheUltraBeast1 Ай бұрын

Try the frenzy fist and incantations next they're cool

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

-Fist+Sword incoming today!

@Blutgolem Ай бұрын

Messmer make the moment 😂

@teeradonseeyangnokter6319 Ай бұрын

I'll wait for RELLANA build.

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

The planning is already going on, 2 videos coming before it though 🙂 problem is I actually need to do a NG+ for some other stuff as well. Resetting both maps really hurts.

@crestfallengandalf1623 Ай бұрын

This is incredible, but the radagon's soreseal at lv150 is awful. It's really not worth it, unless you need it for minimum requirements.

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

Not proud of it but I need my 80 faith. Prefering 1v3 requires as much damage output as possible, there are always ways to dodge enemy attacks, not doing enough dmg is a real problem though.

@_toph Ай бұрын

Is the AoW of the spear a true combo?

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

As far as I experienced no, it isn't.

@steeltraditionalart 26 күн бұрын

@19:00 Raining Wizards

@Alexb0y99 Ай бұрын

DLC is op as fuck dude

@aTypicalMushroom Ай бұрын

Yah its pretty strong in PVP, was going to make a video on invasions with these items they are totally unfair lol.

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

Strong yes, I wouldn't say unfair though! It is easily staggered and dodgeable as well.

@teacherbinas4849 10 күн бұрын

The spear needs 35 dex lol. What a shame I would have really liked to use it on my faith pvp build

@iamasnail8654 Ай бұрын

all you really need is orb and assault. serpent spams pretty decent but all i got out of this montage is that spamming orb and assault just gives you a free rune arc, absolutely busted pvp stuff here, the other skills/incantations are pretty obsolete tbqh

@Trqnfool Ай бұрын

Basically Scarlet Aoenia 2.0

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

The butterfly spell? Yes, just the total useless version. I have Scarlet Aeonia implemented in some builds but this one never.

@yacinedjedi6878 26 күн бұрын

Can you Say me your stats and your lvl pls

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 25 күн бұрын

The whole build is always displayed in the first 10 seconds of my video. Enjoy!

@F1shyBab1shy 28 күн бұрын

I wish there was a serpentsflame (I know it’s Messmerfire, it’s just that messmerfire is a shit name) perfume armament

@l.o.v.e-sick5330 23 күн бұрын

Messmer's Napalm Bottle

@nonameking4874 29 күн бұрын

Will this Messmer stuff get nerfed into oblivion?

@cthulhu_6488 28 күн бұрын

I really doubt it, from soft has other builds to worry about like the perfume bottles being broken as hell

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 28 күн бұрын

I really don't see a reason why. It is good but not op.

@hyruleartschool7713 20 күн бұрын

Ngl the L2 spam was getting pretty aggravating, you never threw the spear once 😭, that mechanic is so cool

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 20 күн бұрын

Remember this was my first time using the weapon so the video was also for testing out the AoW to find out what are the do's and don'ts.

@llawlied6902 12 күн бұрын

The spear throw is pretty shit tho deals barely any damage and the recovery is too slow The entire moveset of the spear seems bad besides the L2

@EtherealFissure 18 күн бұрын

5:59 was anime af.

@Never_Winter Ай бұрын

I think next patch this spear will be useless in pvp. or maybe it will become "press L2 to win duel" who knows...

@joesheridan9451 27 күн бұрын

It’s really not that bad lol, way worse stuff in this dlc

@llawlied6902 25 күн бұрын

rivers or moonvheil or vykes spear are still L2 to win so maybe this stays the same

@adrien4337 Ай бұрын

i don't know in PvP but in Pve, the spear is a good looking weapon but bad weapon sadly. the spear base moveset outside the ash of war, kind of s*** in addition to the not crazy damage and the fact that you will never be able to end the crazy aow combo against most ennemies in the game. Do yourself a favor buy the messmer orb instead the spear. at least you can kill malenia with it.

@kylawhittenburg4171 Ай бұрын

Copy and pasted is crazy

@cthulhu_6488 28 күн бұрын

I can do about 1-2k per light attack, and just have high poise and you won't get knocked out of the ash, it's crazy I'm on ng+7 and bullied all base game bosses and threw the dlc bosses into lockers, you just gotta know when to attack, if you dont think you can get the whole ash out you can do the first which has range because of the fire and it hits for about 3-4k depending on your buffs. It goes crazy just got to be mindful yk

@reedoo8922 28 күн бұрын

Is good and all but think it will be mid at PVE

@yoursolosquad6283 27 күн бұрын

Can people stop asking for nerfs for the love of God, like seriously can we just have fun, iam sick and tired of this mentality if anything is fun, then there is something wrong with it and it needs nerfing… like seriously if somebody is stupid enough to get hit by messmer’s orb then they deserve to be KO’d. Plus you can get knocked out of it so easily

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 25 күн бұрын

I absolutely agree with you. Having faced both spells a good amount of times now I still say what I said in the start. Both the weapon and incantations are good but they are far from OP.

@Pjakt Ай бұрын

but hows the pve tho LOL

@YoosfEsmayl-jp9hz Ай бұрын

Fromsoft whe need to talk about this 😂

@kevingil1356 8 күн бұрын

que bueno!

@Sleep-qe8py Ай бұрын

AoW compilation *

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

Of course this is not only for invasion entertainment purposes but also showcase as well. Showcasing without enemies is 1 thing, with enemies another.

@LuxferoBR 12 күн бұрын

Bando de noob que foi invadido

@wombatzzzz8446 Ай бұрын

His spear is a joke in pvp. Another ash of war that needs to be nerfed

@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Ай бұрын

In my opinion it is strong but not op. Check out Death Knight's Axe :D

@wombatzzzz8446 Ай бұрын

@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 dude, its all so broken. This next update is going to nerf this spear ash and probably 12 other ashes too. This dlc has made arena and invasion pvp aids. Its cool dont get me wrong, but mesmers spear is a win button. Using the ash feels like i just win the fight 80% of the time

@adrien4337 Ай бұрын

i don't know for PvP but in PvE , the spear feels like a good looking weapon but bad weapon sadly. the spear base moveset outside the ash of war, kind of s*** in addition to the not crazy damage and the fact that you will never be able to end the crazy aow combo against most ennemies in the game. Do yourself a favor buy the messmer orb instead the spear. at least you can kill malenia with it.

@BobHarlie Ай бұрын

So they nerfed everything from base game. To release this op garbage? And didn't even fix invasion slots? L dlc.

@llawlied6902 25 күн бұрын

Nah the most op shit is still from the base game that's why the average NPC player still runs around with white mask dual curved bleed swords / rivers / moonvheil dual hammer jump spam, greatsword jump spam or they spam the same 3 spells everyone uses Way too less ppl actually give the Dlc stuff a chance and just stick to what they know and works well