to this day i dislike every competitive aspect of all games. Even when im playing fucking lol i just do random shit until one team beats the other (Yei to my 35-40% winrate but im actually having fun)

tbh, this is an issue in all game genres, RTS, FPS, etc. People gravitate toward the meta and then nothing else. Make fun of "noobs" and anyone just trying to have a good time. Eventually its just two guys left, checking each move with the meta counter. I guess a certain type of personality finds that fun

Meta only matters to pvp in this game. Everyone else is just trolling. You don’t understand the real player-base if you think people are actually “obsessed” with meta in Fromsoft games. Streamers aren’t real player-base, they’re entertainers with egos. And they want to look like they’re amazing at every game, so they use the best weapons. I don’t know any real people who care about meta

Meta isn't a thing in souls games. Nobody can just tank, and tank and tank and tank. It's all about damage. Period.

@@SnailHatan your very mistaken. You can make 90% of the builds possible in elden ring, and you definitely would NOT casually enjoy the game.... it is definitely partly meta, but meta is a stupid word. It's literally just damage. These games are so ACTUALLY boring and old school, it's amazing this game is called GOTY imo.. the last few years of mediocrity have made THIS possibly GOTY...

Melania is the most egregious example of this. People often say that the waterfowl dance feels like it was meant to be parried

@@Littleandr0idman yeah lol. if theres like an asset leak or something and its revealed shes a reused Sekrio boss i would not be surprised.

Nah, the movement feels like ds3 which is good, but yeah, malenia’s waterfowl is crazy and malikeths movement feels like straight out of sekiro

@@Kidcrowley Elden Ring character is slower than Dark Souls 3 by far

Bro just throw a freeze pot at that hoe when she’s in the air. It cancels the water fowl crap

I tried to be less passive and it went well tbh even trading hits if i could

The downfall that I don't wanna see...

"Adapt. Evolve. Change. Overcome." - this famous quote does not have even a mention/sliver of FUN in it.

The CIV games are exactly like that though, aren't they? If you've played them enough, you can easily cheese them.

@@sbes14i agree, as a big civ fan i kinda like the optimization

lol dang, that one hit yeah. I'm so happy I like troll builds

This game does NOT suck, ppl do! The ones disappointed with this game are only disappointing themselves lol 😎

100% agree, random internet stranger

Long gone are the days where games were intended to be fun and not sweaty.

If you are intentionally playing suboptimally in a team-based competitive game, your teammates are right to be angry at you.

You are definitely a Destiny 2 player

You guys aren't understanding what he's saying. Having negative experiences with metagaming in multiplayer games is completely different to the complaint in this video. He's saying the fact that the difficulty in the game is such that is compels people to look up the strongest builds is a problem. You guys are just airing your irrelevant grievances about the time someone flamed you for playing an off meta build in a multiplayer game lol

How Pathologic 2 handled quest tracking would be perfect for a game like this.

i mean this has been something in all fromsoft games, it’s just the way they design their games

@larzprissel5983 It's not perfect in the earlier games either, but at least most questlines are structured in a way where it's easy to run into reoccurring characters on your journey in those other games. Meanwhile, it feels like Elden Ring expects you to run laps around the world map like we're in Skyrim. I have no idea how you're expected to do most of these quests blind.

that is very true. i never played a soulsgame before and it took me like 50 hours and the Wiki to figure out that the vague oneliners some npcs drop are part of quests you can do

@@larzprissel5983but its exacerbated in elden ring since the map is so fucking huge

Which is why I like Witcher 3, AC Odyssey, Kingdoms of Amalur and Harizon. I don't need a guide. I can just play the game.

This is one of the most popular and difficult from soft games of course people are gonna make guides and of course the fans are gonna look for them. You do not need a guide at all to beat elden ring but of course they’re going to exist just like any other game

@@dundundundundundun6589completing elden ring w/o a guide as a normal person w a career would just be a chore, taking the fun out of gaming with hours of guesswork

There’s isn’t a single game in the world that requires an external guide to play. But it’s a curious thing that pretty much every single has one. Also I’m not sure if youve been to a book store but game companies sell paper back and hard pack 100% in depth guides for the people that are interested in it. This idea that “a game that needs a guide is a bad game” seems to me very close minded to the broader reality at hand.

Or you are just a lazy gamer...

Musk is nowhere near as intelligent as the dumb masses think he is if you look into his actual history. He's mostly a character that the dumb masses will listen to so they use him to push all sorts of agendas. No different to gates or jobs.

His build is the closest you can get to “playing the game wrong” tbh as it was pretty obvious he had a fundamental misunderstanding of the mechanics by having two shields equipped and fat rolling lol.

Or it is so brilliant you can’t even comprehend its genius

I mean if anyone else had posted that build they would have just got advice like "don't have 2 shields", it's just the extension of hating musk, so it's a really bad example which shouldn't have been included as an argument imo

Further, people are kinda just looking for anything to dunk on Musk over. Not that they're wrong, much of the time, and on more important matters than this.

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same here but i didnt touch fia i just decided i wanted to destroy that world ever since i realised theres magic in this shit

@@ilayohana3150 Muggle Chad

@@ilayohana3150 Sounds like a trash that you've always been trashed

@@Plsrateeight no!!! You killed my video game npcs!!! 🤓

I'm so sowry, I'd offer flowers if I could find them.

It's not fun either way imo. I did the whole game with dlc solo and was frustrated the whole time (unlike other fromsoft games), and summons simply make the fight too easy to the point that it's not even a challenge.

Not to mention, elden ring adds nothing new and innovates absolutely nothing. It's just a mishmash of open world with dark souls, I played the game for over 400 hours and I haven't found a single mechanic that made it distinct. Dark souls started it all and changed alot in gaming itself Dark souls 2 added smoothness and fully realized animations plus the dual wield mechanic Bloodborne added the beautifully made fast paced gameplay with weapons that transform (still haven't seen a game utilize a mechanic like this for all its weapons) Dark souls 3 added bloodbornes speed to Dark souls and was truly the peak of Dark souls, and it's bosses and world os so compact and memorable to no ends and it added the weapon skills Sekiro popularized parry mechanics and insane skill ceilings. Elden ring? Nothing, open world games have always been a thing, all its mechanics are just taken from Dark souls 3 and put against sekiro bosses with input reading for added artificial difficulty. It's world doesn't even feel as connected as the previous games, I didn't have a single moment of my mind being blown by an area being connected to a past area.

@@Gravbaeyou could say this, but Elden ring does offer a completely different experience than other souls games for me. While in many ways it is negative, I can’t deny the fact it does feel different with the world design and encounters. Sometimes I have gotten lost running around and exploring, and it has been fun. Also felt the caves were much improved in the dlc

@@TheePotatoGamer to that I wholeheartedly agree, I am of the opinion that elden ring is a very good game but not a masterpiece or an innovation. It's world is speaking the most fleshed out and most breathtaking, the experience truly is a unique one compared to other soulslike.

​@@Gravbae​well to me every fromsoft game is masterpiece, elden ring included. steatlh, dedicated jump button, or powerstance, rally (malenia great rune) it's all previous game mechanic okay, but.. mixed physick, great rune, mount, ash of war, spirit ashes, time cycle including night only enemies, explorations... is that all a joke? i mean.. since ds 1 until sekiro isn't that all about roll/dodge and striking?

@@Ashn- I understand what you're meaning but with all due respect most of the stuff you've brought up are either mechanics that add nothing to the gameplay or already added past stuff. Stealth has barely any use (except the dlc) Jump is only good for some platforming or a jump attack which is a must in any open world game and itself doesn't add much Ash of war is literally the weapon skills from ds3 renamed Spirit ashes are literal summons since the days of demons souls but instead don't require a summon sign Mount is something NEEDED especially in an open world game or moving through spaces would be unbearable (that's why every single open world in existence has one) Time cycle is cool to have but again it's nothing unique and the enemies in it are just 1 boss repeated a million times throughout the game Mixed physic is a very nice idea to that I agree but really it's just something to add more buffs to your characters that isn't a spell Also for your comment about ds1 to sekiro I've explained what each souls game added to the series since ds1, so far I haven't seen elden ring innovate, only mix and mash 2 genres without adding its own thing to it (ofc lore doesn't count cause that shit is beautiful) A good game that came out recently that innovated to the souls genre was lies of p with its entire weapon fusion system

what a psycho. i remember the time he got frenzy flamed by the three fingers and he has never been the same since...

Best joke of last year for me

Jermas playthrough was so funny 🤣

bro wat

The souls community doesnt care for meta, we just play how we want. Meta first come up qhen all the casual trash joined to play the games

I think it'll be hard to go back, and maybe Elden Ring tried too hard to appeal to everybody. Loads of options, but still really hard, but also the traditional souls levelling, stamina, and healing systems. I think the solution is to make different games of about the same difficulty, with significantly different systems.

Elden Ring is literally the first From Software game I didn't finish, this critique is on point about everything. Elden Ring might be a good game, but an horrible Souls Like. Almost no fights are balanced, way too many copy pasta, and a story that makes no sense. The good things about the game are the scenery and the combat, but since there is so much recycled content, the scenery isn't really that magical, and since almost no fights are balanced, the combat feels secondary to your stats. What the hell From Software. The saddest part of it all, is since Elden Ring made so much money, they'll probably just continue to do more open worlds, and we will never see another traditional souls like from them.

@@sauceinmyface9302 You don't have to go back, there is a way forward. It's called giving the player less information and making specific information less documentable. It's possible, but no one's doing it. Everything is controllable, it's all a bunch of control systems with inputs and outputs. Which control systems are the most fun? Imo, the ones that give less information while still being deep/complex enough to be discoverable.

@@poisonated7467 I suppose? Games like Outer Wilds and Tunic are good examples of this, but even then, it's so easy for people to get stuck, look something up, and accidentally see too much.

@@sauceinmyface9302 True, the basic systems will be the same. That's part of the culture problem in gaming and I don't know how to fix that. Regardless, we should take every step we can to war against it with intelligent design.

It's just so boring for some reason I don't know why

@@Miuranger1 perhaps the hours upon hours of riding a horse through empty fields?

That was me in a way too. I remember the first time I fought her, I played the whole game solo and had maybe 30 tries just to beat her first phase. I was playing blind, so when I realised that was only half the fight and I was only just surviving, I decided maybe I’ll use mimic tear so I can get to the second phase quicker and practise it so I’ll learn quicker for the solo kill. Horrible idea, because once Malenia was on half health on the second phase, I realised my mimic tear didn’t need me AT ALL to kill her (pre nerf, didn’t know how op it was). He ended up killing her before she killed me, and it was incredibly unfulfilling. I remember beating myself up for not just closing the app that night before sleeping.

@@fahimtajwaar2521 You are just bad at the game. Everyone by this point defeated her. Not a hard boss at all.

@@mercylavigne brother if you go on my channel I have stored videos beating her on ng+7 and rl1 solo. I have platinumed every fromsoft game in the souls-like genre from demons souls 2008 to now, some twice because they’ve been re-released. I’m allowed to have criticisms of the game, especially considering I have been a long time fan of the franchise. And unfortunately I am not a fan of the balancing around summons, neither of some unfun gameplay mechanics in Malenia’s fight.

@@fahimtajwaar2521 I never used summons so i don't know anything about them. Malenia is bad designed, yeah, but it's not that hard without Waterfowl Dance. Her moves are pretty predictable, but phase two is pretty annoying for Faith/Strength builds. Elden Ring has no unbalanced fights, really. Some bosses are REALLY FUCKING HARD, but you get used to it. Closest boss to be nigh unfair is Commander Niall.

@@mercylavigne for me it’s less about being unfair and more about being challenging to the point of being unfun. Yes I can beat a boss with 15-hit combos that two shot me with 3 second delays on every hit and 5 aoes that have after effects and combos that they can extend from animation reading and then getting ganked, but quite frankly, I don’t have fun doing it. Previous games never had 15-hit combos with 2 second attack windows, or optional extensions, or delays on every hit, and they sure as hell didn’t two shot you with endgame vigor. But Elden Ring takes every measure it can to trick the player and at a point I just get tired of it. Bosses like slave knight Gael might be a pushover compared to Elden ring bosses because they have standard damage and predictable/sight-readable combos, but I find they’re simply more fun because they don’t pull a “sike - you thought” on every move.

You're playing the wrong game lol

Lost in leyndell? Looool u suck

@@asundelgun3487 what does that even supposed to mean?

@@zenks5883 It's probably sarcasm regarding either looking up a guide because of getting lost or someone being snarky over "blind" playing. It could also be that they never found their way to the "secret" area being that it's a secret.

it is obvious that you are meant to take that main road to the end of the game so i didnt really go of it in my first run which is sad

it's still fucking awful and extremely obvious, the boss walks around doing nothing for five seconds while you are standing in place and the millisecond you press the attack input they attack you back, a lot faster of course and deal a lot of damage to you which is essentially unavoidable unless you stand around doing nothing for even longer, waiting for the boss to do fucking anything that isn't reading your inputs (technically it's reading your animations but it makes no difference)

Bosses never actually read your inputs, they read your animations

@@dunkawunka2278 which makes no real difference to the argument

@sunbleachedangel i wasnt trying to invalidate you, im just trying to clear a common misconception

@@dunkawunka2278 fair

Most of the game was me looking up guides because I had no idea where I was supposed to go, and where certain quest lines were located. It’s not only a world where it’s fun to get lost in, you’ll actually get lost, it became annoying for me.

That’s my problem, I recently bought Elden Ring and I don’t want to lose momentum and forget what I have going on

@@kush6846 bro if you unironically got lost in this game than maybe open world RPG's aren't your forte there's fast traveling, clearly defined paths, etc. you can't get lost in this game in terms of literally being lost

or make the character write stuff by hand on his map...I think games that implement their map system this way, making it obvious it's an item the character is carrying, have the perfect idea here.

@@titanscar2183 in terms of finding where to go to progress the main story, it wasn’t a problem, but it’s the side quests, certain characters and locations to trigger them that I couldn’t find.

@J B and it was still better than Elden Fail

@J B pretty much the same as all other Fromsoft game, spam rolling.

@@shrakholog1013 lol no. spam rolling will kill you every time. It’s the last thing you wanna end up doing in Fromsoft games

@@unknwnn7673 spam rolling won't kill you if you time it right. With Elden Ring's bosses that attacks in consecutive succession, the player is forced to roll over and over, until the bosses' stamina depletes. I'm just pointing out to J B that if Sekiro is just spam deflect then all other Fromsoft game is spam roll, meaning it's pointless to compare Sekiro and Souls games from a hater's perspective.

holy shit you are right , this means they combined both of their games in the worst way possible.

I think she took me... 22-23 tries pre patch. And that was using everything at my disposal, Mimic tear, spells, buffs, frostbite. It's only been 1-3 tries on every subsequent playthrough, but they really messed up with that Waterfowl dance. She'd have easily been the hardest boss in the game without that still. I honestly wish they'd used the previous animation without the wild tracking. I think I can count on one hand how many times I've successful dodged all of that attack. She really was the first boss I'd say it wasn't a fair fight. Even for how hard Gael, O&S, and Sister Friede were, I'd still say they were absolutely fair fights. Only boss to push that envelope was Orphan of Kos, who you could just outpower if you grinded bloodgems.

@@Frostman411 I felt that way with Mohg, the first boss that had a truly unavoidable attack felt like a betrayal after the no hit community was keeping the older games alive

If it took you hours upon hours, that's a you problem big guy

@@BasedHyperborean using magic is forbidden in this house hold

skill issue

After playing the DLC I missed Malenia......yeah the last boss broke me, had to resort to turtling with my mimic tear to beat it. My build ended up not mattering when it comes to defeating that boss.

It really did the dlc just solidified ER has my 2nd least favorite of the fromsoft games and prolly wont ever replay it

How is the DLC so highly rated?

The game is pure open ended exploration no check lists or hand holding or side dungeon markers, across a massive landscape, and can be rerouted at players whim. The legacy dungeons are peak complexity and scale in the series, the free form overworld exploration and traditional legacy dungeon crawling are meant to contrast and compliment each other, and they do. Yet some ppl can mistake the forrest for the trees and make 2hr vids where they missed the point lol

@@JavaSchoolBlues >is aggressive for no reason >refuses to elaborate >leaves

@@JavaSchoolBlues No, it's pretty much the best counter to the real "dumb take" which is that exploration and experimentation is punished in Elden Ring.

@@hiscores9282 but the overworld exploration is really bad compared to the legacy dungeons, if i just want a game with no check lists or handholding i could play ultima 6, the GOAT

@@hiscores9282 Oh yeah, the incredible open world that has open fields with nothing but a random group of enemies just standing there. How cool

My favorite moment in any jerma stream, only matched by the time he did his dollhouse streams and everyone wanted Ludwig to die

Certified Mohg Moment

you should try other software souls games if you like troll builds

He deflated his victory because he thought he showed his dick live on twitch when he jumped

jerma fans are even weirder than he is, there's like 2000 of you but you're fucking everywhere

Elden ring>>> Bloodborne and dark souls 3 and if you say I'm a elden ring player my first one is dark souls 1 lil bro so cope harder elden ring is better from gameplay and graphics seals ost bosses only sekiro is equal and dark souls 1

​@@hatem-st4tyNo.

@@hatem-st4ty Autism speaks.

​@@hatem-st4tyBro why are you so mad.

​@@hatem-st4tybro calm down

In the elden beast fight?

​@@coredeadman5980 yep

@@EmondJeremie lol, i just beat that boss a few days ago^^

Valheim

@@Xnvasxve DigDug

I use a mod and play with no map marker in kongdom come deliverance. It really enhances the immersion. It's nice to still have the map to look up directions to get between towns but you have to navigate there yourself and really do get to know the landscape

Out of somewhat newer open world games, Outward is built on some of the old-school design principles and it also does not have a player marker, so you have to orient yourself by learning its geography. It's really satisfying, especially when played in local coop. Though it does give you a map from the get go, so that is chance missed.

Hollowknight has somewhat of that approach as you have to give up a vital charm slot to be able to use it…so you get your marker but with an added deficit

Mind sharing which weapon that was? :D

@@angerayne Ruins Greatsword It was most likely more common than I thought, but none of my friends said they got the weapon when I joined them and used it. But as someone that always uses the chunkiest of big weapons, while theming my character around smashing earth and shooting lightning, this weapon was so perfect I would have been sad to find out about it after the fact if I had missed it on my first run. Would have been happy enough with the Starscourge Greatswords, but Ruins is more rough and lightning oriented in its look and ability, so definitely prefer it.

@@HalikBun ruins great sword is good. One of my equipped load weapons I use is the bastard weapon and the Astel wings. I love using them because they are powerful fun and really pretty to look at.

It is absolutely intended that margit pushes your shit in early on to encourage you to leave and explore south, then go back to stormveil.

@@HalikBun _and genuinely thought I was just terrible at the game._ I _am_ genuinely terrible at games like this. So,... are there difficulty settings which I could set to be very easy? Or should I just forget about this one?

Just here to say that the dislike extension is an estimate based off of the people who have it, which is often innacurate

Thats all on you guys fomo killed the experience for a lot of people. No one understands this game be here in 10 years too. It's about bragging you played it at launch to make yourself seem relevant to strangers.

That’s the eternal struggle of a souls game. You want to look something up because you are afraid of missing content, but you also don’t want to ruin the fun. It was a little quicker and easier in the linear style of dark souls or bloodborne or sekiro but with Elden ring the world was so massive it takes hours of looking at things online while playing the game if you don’t want to miss quests, and honestly it was exhausting.

maybe try not to look up anything in the dlc? no one forcing you to finish the game in a week or month.

@@makoto3212stfu. You are bound to miss multiple quests in this game if you don’t look shit up

I think that, from a purely gameplay standpoint, Sekiro is the best fromsoft game, but Bloodborne is the best overall experience. Even with the limited healing items (which, honestly, is only a problem briefly in the mid game, since, by the time you get to the endgame, the amount of blood echoes you gain by just playing normally is more than enough to buy enough healing items and still level up if you so choose), even with the chalice dungeons, even with the Mikolash gimmick fight. I love Elden Ring, but I genuinely believe it would have been even better if it had a lesser amount of unique weapons, but each of them has a bigger and more varied moveset, like in Bloodborne, and if it had a visible posture metre, like in Sekiro. And a deflection mechanic. What I love the most about Sekiro is that you are not trying to inflict death by a thousand cuts to your enemies, nor are you creating massive combos of obscure items and mechanics to one-shot them; instead, what you're doing in Sekiro is trying to find an opening to land a decisive hit. That can be done by landing a lesser hit (which in and of itself is not something you can just walk to the boss and do, they can block and deflect you as well), by deflecting their attacks, and by pressuring them. I was into historical fencing for a while, and even practiced it. Because of the mechanics I just mentioned, Sekiro is the only game I tried to this day that creates a rhythm and feel that is similar to an actual sword fight. As much as I love Elden Ring, I wish it had gone that route instead of being open world Dark Souls. Open world Dark Souls is still awesome, though

This is what i've been telling people about, fromsoft CAN but on elden ring they DON'T. As usual though fromshit fanboy defend this crap like their life's on the line. The combat now is just roll and hit like a caveman and people can't see this shit, literally massive downgrade compared to sekiro, and because of how massively "success" elden ring is it start to creeping on other games trying so hard to copy paste soulshit gameplay instead of trying something new and literally creating a new slop of genre

I enjoy Elden Ring just because it scratched the itch I've been looking for in a game for a while. I can see how its not some peoples cup of tea, but I enjoyed it personally.

@@istheworldrealsouls games have always been a roll fest what r u talking about

​@@istheworldrealyeah not too much agreeable when you use terms like soulshit, seems like you're not on the same page of fans that want improvements if you talk like this

Every Elden Ring critic parrots this point, but what bosses are you talking about? There’s malenia, yes, but what else?

@@cardmossdn8058 I also would like to know, because I have seen this EXACT same comment multiple times and every single time not one person even bothered giving examples.

@@Paulo-ro3ws The only other one that comes to mind is Morgott, but even then that’s a stretch.

@@mori7644 And hell Morgott's my favorite boss. I feel like most of these complaints come from people who use the slowest weapons.

@@randomlyrapid8996 I mean if you’re using heavy weapons, you should know that you’re not an anime character swinging that weapon like a straight sword and they still complain.

Just because one game does a system poorly does not mean another game can't come and improve it, open your minds people.

@@sasaki999pro level scaling was always terrible. It destroys sense of progression and player immersion. There is nothing to be open-minded about.

There's no reason to hate a game mechanic at a fundamental level. You could easily implement a soft level scaling mechanic. Something that would buff weak enemies a little when you're way ahead, and bring down harsh enemies just a bit when you're behind. Level scaling doesn't have to mean "the enemies are always an even match", and you can still maintain hard difficulty while doing it.

@@pantonearqm2791 "it ruins player progression and immersion" Except it literally doesn't have to if it's handled subtlely. You just think that "player scaling" instantly means equalized challenges for every player level, when that's not at all what it means. Nobody would notice or care if it took one less sword swings for a low level character to kill some of the mobs in Caelid

Skyrim's level scaling holds the entire game together, the fuck are you on? Without it there will be a completely, absolutely different game, a game similar to elden ring's fuckups in fact. Level scaling is the only way to make openworld progression work besides making the open world closed.

thats why you just replay the game. theres like 7 different endings

@@dmjr437 yeah just replay the entire game smh

This. Other issues, especially level gating, I can live with. But this is a big no-no for me. New Vegas has level gating, but you generally don't break quests by doing things in your order. Witcher 3 has level gating, sort of, and you generally don't break quests by doing things in your order. And these are less forgiving examples. Things like BotW, Elder Scrolls/Fallouts, or Ubisoft games are absolutely scared to keep people out of content. Not asking anything to that level, but having quest not broken by doing open-world things in an open-world game, when there are so few quests.

@@askmeier359 "ohhh noo the game punish me because if i dont play using a 100% all secrets guide i dont get 100%" lmao retard

dawg replay the game that’s why it’s good it’s fun to replay bc u can get a different story every time making it entertaining

I’ve just started playing so I don’t wanna be too harsh.. but I’ve played BB and DS3 - those are my only introductions to souls games.. I knew going into them - but I sank into the games so easily - from the lore to the gameplay. This just has… no charm? The lore is super cool from what I’ve seen. But I’m spotting enemies from 100 metres away and it just feels off. It hasn’t grabbed me like the others did.

@@firstlast9846 same with me, I'm a longtime FromSoft fan but Elden Ring could've been so much more and unique because they marketed it as such, and the trailers made it look like not just my dream game but many others' as well. Elden Ring is proof that FromSoft are running out of ideas and the unique vision they once had. It's my most disappointing game of all time and definitely the most disappointing in recent years, when what they did was makng just another Dark Souls game with a couple of new mechanics, like all sequels do, but Elden Ring was never supposed to be a sequel to Dark Souls 3, it was supposed to be Elden Ring, but it only did sequel things with the Dark Souls series, the changes that Elden Ring made could've been made in a potential Dark Souls 4 as well. And no, just because it had new lore, is not enough and doesn't justify it being a new IP when Bloodborne and Sekiro were new IPs that also had different lore than Dark Souls, and yet they felt like actual new IPs, unlike Elden RIng. Gameplay is really what separates these games, but Elden Ring didn't bring anything new to the table that a Dark Souls 4 couldn't have done just as well, unlike Bloodborne and Sekiro.

@questionablezoomer764 - admittedly it has grown on me since writing the previous comment… but it still just doesn’t have whatever it was that pulled me into BB and DS and I can’t put my finger on it. I loved walking around Stormveil Castle cos it felt like FS game - but again - idk it’s beyond aesthetics I just don’t know why this feels off for me.

​@@questionablezoomer764 your idea of them running out of ideas is the fact they didn't make the same game they make every time?

​@@firstlast9846What's the problem with spotting enemies 100 meters away anyway? That's supposed to be a good thing because of the anticipation.

This 100000000x. I know you can change your build but that still requires a hard to find specific item 😂😂.

Oh no....people like a game....the horror...

@@frogglen6350 nothing wrong with liking the game. Elden ring is a great game with a handful of fatal flaws that will become prevalent in future from soft games if no one is willing to point them out. I don't want to deal with waterfowl dance again nor do I want to deal with combos that require my melee only character to have to roll more than five times in varying tempos to finally get a chance to counter attack. My hope is from soft balances things out a little better on their next outing. To quote the video "at what point does hard become too hard"?

@@jwilliam6743 And this is precisely why Team Ninja is my new friend now. After the 60th hour of Elden ring, i was just... done, while at the same time im clocking almost 180 hours in Nioh 2(with 4 new game+'s and now working my way through the end game content). The reason why is quite simple: The game just gives me more tools to deal with bosses, and many of these tools are usually perfectly viable. It doesn't matter what weapon you use, as long as you practice the core mechanics of the game(which are all crucial compared to the 'Guard counter' that i only ever used once) you will be able to make basically any weapon, or magic style or w/e work. And yes some might feel slower, however if you enjoy it, just play it and you'll be completely fine.

@@mentalforceru bro people can say all they want about how they'll think Nioh 2 is easy (even though it's literally not going to be in any shape form or way)but when the actual game starts they'll be limping back to Elden ring. Heck people crying about Malenia have no Idea about the creature mission that Team Ninja actually incorporated into the game and named it "The Dragon Clan" fuck Ren and his Old school methods.

Ya, I can already tell, no one will be enthralled with the sequel. It all will be more of the same and even git guds will git lost. Or if not, their minority will remain the only ones forming a jerk circle around it lol

I feel the opposite. I agree with the criticism about the repeat bosses but saying the amount of dungeons in the world makes it feel like a video game... well yeah we're playing a video game. I have never played a Souls borne game and my friends basically walked me through the early part of the game as I learned how to play the game. I had so much fun going through the different caves & catacombs with my friends. Sure they were repetitive and on a new game plus, I'll probably avoid half of them, but for the average player, they're going to find a quarter or half of these dungeons.

There *are* lore reasons. Elden Ring's "fanbase" is plagued by casual gamers who come from western gaming and don't understand that From Software thinks about everything they put in their games. They just don't spell it out for free as if the casual audience can't be intelligent enough to research and learn their lore.

​@@adamiadamiadamiOk. Explain who put the dragon there.

​@@lorenzocassaro3054Magma Wyrms are humans who participated in dragon communion and eventually after overdoing it, ended up turning themselves into that. Everything has a reason dum dum.

@@adamiadamiadami if you have to google and read a wiki instead of just playing the game and getting the lore through gameplay then its a failure of the game.

I'm helping others with Messmer and Radahn and most of the hosts I see now use a big ass shield and they don't even bother to roll anymore or they spam the same spell( especially the scadutree thorn incantation) constantly without engaging with the boss up close at all.

It isn't about being dangerous, but engaging and making you be familiar with it. Dark souls 2 is difficult in a tunnel vision way

Dark Souls 1's world was more dangerous than its enemies because it was made 20 years ago. You want Elden Ring's world, the thing you spend most of your time in, to constantly be more dangerous than Malenia, pre-nerf Radhan, Maliketh, etc? Are you a masochist? Who would enjoy that. DS1's world was more dangerous than its enemies because they literally couldn't program monsters to be any bit difficult back then, so they made up for that with random bullshit in the game to give you the illusion of difficulty. Making a surface very small so it's easy to fall off of is not actual difficulty. Making mobs jump out of dark corners in an already dark game is not difficulty. These are examples of pseudo difficulty. Difficulty revolves around monster mechanics, not cheesy bullshit.

dark souls 2 has the harder area difficulty. And in bosses, well most of them are the easiest and other the hardest for some.

@@robertoaltuve4145 I recently played DS2 and Elden Ring back to back. I agree DS2 has harder areas but bosses like Darklurker, Sir Alonne, Lud & Zallen are pretty easy compared to something like Radagon / Elden Beast. Still a big DS2 fan though.

@@kalsizzle Difficulty in bosses can be a lot more subjective than the areas though. I consider Alonne the hardest of from souls games for me. But if you ask me about another "hard" bosses probably can get surprised. At least i do everytime i hear they are super hard.

They're moving back to mech games like Armoured Core if recent news is anything to go by.

@@starhammer5247 god I hope so

@@starhammer5247 well after the success of this game it would be idiotic not to make another game similar. Also the money they made from this can help them increase their resources and be able to work on multiple games at once

Open world is not the issue. It’s the scope. A smaller world would allow for more uniqueness and better balance. There is no need to have dozens of similar boss battles and similar catacombs. More playtime hours does not necessarily equal more quality hours.

I know one of their next projects is a new armored core game, then I heard they have another game in the works but I don't think anyone knows what it is. They did say though that they might do an Elden Ring 2 but aren't sure yet.

Well, there are a lot of other characters that don't just try to use you and are quite nice. Boc is an example. Same with Millicent, Nepheli, Thops, etc. There are a rather large number of nice people in the lands between so long as you ignore the thousands of enemies that don't have characters.

@@Choco____1 Even when Sellen says: if you cannot become Elden Lord, you will always have a place in the Academy. This is...... Edit: the sad thing is that Nepheli is the only one with a semi good ending provided the player does not burn the lands between.

I liked her, but when she killed my man D she was just a skank to me.

@@Choco____1 Boc is a good example, yes, but he's not really connected to any of the runes, and he's not a "waifu'. I found Nepheli annoying, but I really loved Sellen, for example. She's also one of the few caring characters.

@@treasurewuji8740 or turn her into a doll.

Dont feel shamed for using summons. Theyre a part of the game design

I’ve played since launch. Still a mystery as to dodge rolling. A giant shield and summons are fun to me. And I still get destroyed.

Nothing wrong with summons. Use them your first play thru and then try to not use them the next time!

I have played through every DS game with a 2h weapon, parry shield, melee only and no summons. After Leyndell in Elden Ring however the game starts to cheese you, so this time around I had no qualms about cheesing it back.

I've always disliked the attitude that summons are a crutch or something to eventually stop using once you're good enough. They're a part of the game. Fromsoft doesn't exactly hold your hand or give you freebies, so it's ok to take what you can get. If you want to play with summons, great. If you don't want to play with summons, also great.

Biggest problem with bosses is that you are fighting legit 90% of them atleast twice most of them 3 or 4 times. Even the legacy dungeon bosses gets reused like margit, mohg and godrick its so disappointing

@@stuckstepsis6976 that's the criticism I don't agree with. Smaller bosses being repeated, although not amazing, is better than nothing, and the bigger ones that are normally have lore reasons for it. Also, that's only if you fight every boss. You can't really get mad for an optional repeat boss, because you chose to fight it. Sure, 100% unique bosses would be cool, but isn't reasonable. So instead of complaining about there being multiple of a boss, just enjoy that you get to fight good bosses an extra time

@@nalidhardstyle8551 I would generally agree except for Astel 2.0. That grab attack is bs, and Astel seems like the kind of enemy that should be unique given that he’s a fallen star who destroyed one of the underground cities. That’s too epic for copy paste with a bs grab move that insta-kills. Really cheapens the og Astel. Godefroy also feels totally out of place. Godrick should be unique as the inheritor of a great rune. Other than those two, I can see an argument that the repeats are not bad as a rule. It could be done better, though.

@@kolbywilliams7234 I agree that astel shouldn't be copied, that's definatly one that should be unique. And although yes the repeats could be done better, I'd rather have this than have a game that's half as big

Yeah I came to actually love ruins to a degree because its like a 50/50 chance that theres a boss at the bottom of the stairs, or just a treasure chest lol- and when it was just a treasure chest, and not a shitty general enemy with a health bar I was pleased XD

u right, but he mentioned this

the game doesnt have input reading, youre using wrong terms to describe wrong things

@@theholypotato7763Enemies react on the first frame of an animation when you do something, so it's practically the same thing.

@@theholypotato7763 The game 100% has input reading. It's also closely related to the fact that beside the animation of light attack of you avatar, all main bosses have attacks that are faster than anything your avatar might do ( like drinking a flask, casting a spell, heavy attack, ash of wars ). They also have long range attacks that are also faster than your animations. So basically your input is read by the enemy AI and then you get punished. It's really obvious against Malenia or Margit.

@@georgecombii5680 no, like someone else has pointed out what the bosses do is animation reading

I was going to say that. You're ahead of the KZfaq curve

Yeah, it's definitely not a twist. They mention the Greater Will so many times, it's even mentioned in the opening.

I think what he was trying to say was you still aren’t sure what a greater will or golden order even is after finishing the game or even care much about it. The story feels like george rr Martin wrote something and from soft smashed it apart and took pieces of it to make it into a obscure from soft title. In dark souls the story had a cohesive story that made sense is what he was saying with illustrations that are clear, and even more so in sekiro in elden ring it’s so vague to the point you just don’t care about the story and can tell neither did they. It’s a game focused on the game play , all immersion is broken when each dungeon is the same shit over and over and bosses are re-used so many times, and in an open world that contains almost no human life or settlements.

@@TheVioletBunny That’s not entirely true. Sekiro has one of if not the most concise stories in any Fromsoftware game and it still had a lot of loose ends. It’s their style of story telling. For example, much like the greater will, the divine dragon is never explained fully even though it’s a primary plot point. The only thing we know about his origin is that he “came from the west”. Making the greater powers in your story have very little known about them helps build a sense of scale, it shows that the world portrayed in the game is incredibly vast, but to the overarching narrative it’s just a small part of something much bigger.

The game really explores pride. Every story boss struggles with pride and it is the fundamental reason why they all need to go down so that the world can be made anew

Unrelated but who is that cute anime girl in your pfp? I may watch the show just for her.

@@jackallen6601 Riko Sakurauchi from Love Live

What spells did you use? Need some help pls ;-;

@@yellowbelliedslider6719 First time I used Rock Sling, but I wasted all my flasks because I didn't realize she had a second phase. Second time I mixed rykard's rancor and adula's moonblade, with the former doing most of the work, though the latter has been nerfed since then IIRC. I had effectively about 80 Int and all the quick casting options (except for the staff since it increases cost and I like to open with Ranni's Dark Moon for fun). Make sure you keep your distance, like as far as possible, there's no reason not to with all of those spells except for moonblade which I only used briefly whenever she ended up close enough. Just start rolling away whenever she goes up in the air, she almost always misses if you do (at a good distance). At the time I was also experimenting with adding faith since I'd maxed Int so I had black flame's protection and golden vow on, and flame cleanse me IIRC ready. I can't remember if I actually needed them though so they're probably optional. Also relevant to note I'd invested a lot into endurance for dodges and armor since I had like no vigor, so I had the altered Banished Knight armor on at the time (I needed the best equip talisman for it still though). Edit2: (Should note I only switched spells the second time because I was really tired of throwing rocks at that point in my playthrough, Rock Sling is honestly probably the best bet, as it is in almost every fight sadly, unless it's been nerfed and no one told me. I did hear Rykard's Rancor was buffed though and it's more fun so I still rec that too).

@@yellowbelliedslider6719 Try the Night Sorceries like Night Comet and Shard. I avoided them my first playthrough because they cost more FP and have less range than their glintstone counterparts, but the benefit of them is that the NPC don't dodge them which really helps against Mel.

If it was 50% shorter it would be 100% better. There was entirely too many pointless dungeons. It keeps me from playing the game again because I just dont want to explore and I dont want to look up which three dungeons i need of the over 100 useless onea

​@BrandonDenny-we1rw thank God none of you run from software.. I played the entire game 10 times with different builds every time and it gives you incredible freedom to do what you want, when you want and how you want and you can never have the same run through twice! It's literally the goat!

@@natea4828 Entitled ego much? The game was full of pointless dungeons and rewards. Brainless simp all you want I actually want the games to get better over time not worse

@@BrandonDenny-we1rw Sadly I'm having the same opinion. Elden Ring is the first From Software game that I felt unmotivated to play a second time. It's because two reasons: 1) Pointless dungeons and areas; 2) Unbalanced bosses. Everytime I thought about starting a second playthrough, I remember a bunch of dungeons that only gives summons at end, so I'll have to watch videos to avoid and all of that just to fight unbalanced bosses.

@@BasicLand-Swamp Its why Im waiting for the dlc then making a new character and looking up all the exact places and items i need for my build doing the dlc then sadly yeah. Not playing it again because of your 2 points exactly.

I typically don’t comment but god damn margit beat my ass so hard I had to restart and go from vagabond to samurai.

@@AnimeOtaku56. lmao I just dual wielded Uchintaga started samurai and picked up the second one and upgraded the bleed dmg really strong

@@AnimeOtaku56. Sounds like a skill issue. Margit is definitely the hardest first boss in any souls game but you don't need bleed to beat him.

@@OriginalDizzleKing Bro 💀. That’s what I said. There was simply a lack of skill and I switched classes because of it.

@@AnimeOtaku56. My bad thought you were implying that the game is unplayable without bleed or something. Seen that take before

If you ever get to the point where you’re passionate enough about something, you can’t help but say something. Because yes, some people actually care about things like quality and substance. Funny how that works huh?

@@GothJedi some people do, yes, just not neverknowsbest haha. what he really only cares about is how "mainstream-popular" a game is, and if it is, he cynically does everything he can to dig for anything he deems as a flaw to justify his negativity he is so infamous for, in this case, ironically taking the form of unoriginal disappointment he carries on about so often. hilarious for someone so hellbent on being critical of uniqueness.

You sound like a degenerate

@@lyrithvalthier2236 critical of uniqueness? What drug are you taking? Elden Ring is the combination of two tropes which have been around for decades, souls combat and shitty Skyrim esc. Open worlds. You’re brain dead.

this is the correct thought process. You are indeed allowed to love something and understand why others dont

if it was a carbon copy of ds3 it would be actually fun to explore and would have actually good bosses

@@r.graves5531 For real. I would kill for this to just be Dark Souls 4 instead of Elden Ring.

@@NathanialSCoughtry Elden Ring is Dark Souls IIII

You waste a crimson flask to resummon torrent.

lol just get good son

Get better at the game honestly

When the enemy is about to attack, don't use a potion, don't use your weapon, don't summon your horse. Wait until you have an opening.

@@ericstaples7220 Ah yes the classic “if you just don’t do the problem the problem doesn’t exist”, I swear ds fans are incapable of taking criticism about balancing or combat lmfao

Moreover, the opening cinematic explains your motivation quite straightforwardly. to stand before the Elden Ring. And become the Elden Lord. That's it. That's your character's motivation. Why is up to the player. How is up to the choices they make in the game. But the motivation is spelled out in no uncertain terms.

Extremely well put!!

just because the motivation is obvious doesn't mean it's a good motivation. like okay... i guess my character just wants to go on an adventure... why though? people don't do things for no reason.

@@cerealexperimentsgrain Power, glory and wealth are powerful motivators. They're essentially the only reason that people have jobs. This adventure will lead to literally being a ruler of a country. You might not want that, but it seems easy to understand why SOMEONE would want that. And given a lot of the class descriptions it's very likley your protagonist... Isn't necessarily a good person.

@@levishawback1218 that's a fair take actually. just hard to relate to. i guess i relate a lot more to DS1's character motivation of being pushed around by greater forces with little that can be done about it.

Thank you! This is something I clocked in the base game that was only made worse in the DLC. Fromsoft's presentation and art direction is immaculate, as always, but their storytelling skills are subpar and wholly derivatives of their previous work. It's alright to be vague and esoteric with Worldbuilding but NOT the story as a whole. The reader/player needs to know what's happening to fully understand what the narrative it. But fromsoft fails to deliver it. We need to know the character motivations, we need to know what cautionary tale From is trying to explore but we don't get that. We're not given enough info to be invested in the plot. Every sublot and character is flat and boring because they're just archetypes with no personality and garner no emotional connection with the player. Partly due to fromsoft not knowing how to write interesting characters and resorting to "and then they died" or "and then we killed them" resolutions to their questlines. Fromsoft only cares about spectacle and presentation over an actual well crafted story.

@@sugarhoneyprincess6025 Your point about vagueness and mystery being acceptable for world building, but not for the narrative itself as a whole is such an important distinction. I study literature, and unanswered questions and multiplicity of interpretations is very much part of the whole game, but it needs to be grounded in something that functions as a starting point, from which a MEANINGFUL narrative can be constructed. Mystery is fine. Nonsense is not. And I feel like Elden Rings world-building went so out there with the esoterocism that it made it kind of impossible to build a narrative. I can't even name a solid theme that Elden Ring is exploring. I've seen a lot of people say 'repeating cycles', but this drives me up the wall! This is the most unoriginal, universally applicable thematic trope that can quite literally be applied to anything, if you're lazy enough by just going "circles dude"! The classic, 'and then he woke up and everything started from the beginning' is not deep lmao. And in the context of Elden Ring, cycles of WHAT? Nobody knowing what's going on? Religious fanaticism? Power struggle? Cycles of religious inquisition leading to tragedy is a fine theme, but it needs to be EXPLORED. Elden Ring just tells you 'x has occurred, but we won't even explain to you the most basic meaning of x'. I've spent way over a hundred hours in the game, and watched hours of lore videos. But I can't for the life of me actually explain the ideology of the Golden Order, as in what all of it actually means. In comparison, in His Dark Materials, literally a children's book, the religious institution known as the Magisterium is obviously modelled after the catholic church, and they believe that a mysterious substance called the 'dust' is the basis of original sin, and therefore try to remove it from the world. There. One sentence, and it explains to the reader what's going on, while retaining a sense of mystery, and unanswered questions (which the narrative can then explore). If you can't summarize some basic world-building without a 3h lore video, which leaves you with more questions than answers, it's bad writing, and goes from the realm of 'world-building retaining mystery', to 'even the writers didn't know what they're trying to do with the narrative nor the world-building'. Because that much 'mystery' just makes it impossible to have a meaningful narrative. Mystery exists to be filled with narrative, not just left there (unless it's some background lore for a faraway land, that is never visited). If the narrative never even reaches the mysterious parts of the world-building, it begs the question why is the mystery there to begin with? Yes, the art style is impressive, but story-wise this game is literally style over substance.

@@jonirischx8925 Exactly. Every theme in Elden ring is half-formed or barely there. Godhood is bad. Why is it bad Fromsoft? You've only showed us one(1) god lineage that's screwed up. I understand that Marika might have divested herself of humanity to get there but it's never explained WHY that's a necessary part of apotheosis in Elden Ring. And even still with the DLC we learn so much of Marika's action was due to trauma and suffering her people endured AND how her children suffered due to OUTER God meddling. Shouldn't they be the real enemy? Beings with no morality or humanity who only want to remake the world in their image? Not traumatized mortal gods who do care about something more than themselves but aren't petfect beings. The issue with Gods in elden ring is their lack of wisdom and foresight for how influential their existance is. Genocide of a people is bad. Fair and understandable. But don't say the victim of one turning around to wipe out the culture that murdered their people is the REAL villain, From?! From took the time to show us how Marika's people were brutalized only to turn around and say she shouldn't have inquisitioned the Hornsent for it but never say the Hornsent also shouldn't have killed her people for looking down on them. Something her society does to tarnished but she herself seems to still value their contrubutions. And the omen but that's whole other can of worms that from is incapable of writing a narrative for because the only way we, the player, interact their world is by killing things or stopping things from killing us. It once again made the victims the villains, muddying how a reader/player might interpreted the situation. Cycles, the world in decay, fallen god empire, etc. Fromsoft has already TOLD these stories and better. The kicker is, there is a whole world OUTSIDE of the lands between that is disconnected from all of it. The lands between and the Shadow lands are hidden microcosms of a larger world. A god's playground. We aren't told what fixing the elden ring actually means for the greater world. Or given a choice NOT to. To make matters worse, From did have some compelling character plotlines that they cut. Merchant Kalé and the frenzied flame and Asime, the mimic tear lord of night. Kalé would have succumbed to despair at learning how the Golden order wiped his people and culture out, something we the player are shown and might have an emotional response to, and begs us to wipe away the world because of how cruel it is to the innocent. Very emotional compelling, (to me at least) And Asime, a mimic tear who acknowledges to Nox's goal of creating a Lord of Night and wants to use us as template. The possible narrative might have been that the Nox could never create a lord of night, only imitate one. Their advancements as a society would always be second to the golden order. Gold being better than silver etc. Within the game's narrative none of these themes are addressed to a full extent or brushed over entirely. The plot feels like lip service to the visuals and not the other way around.

@Krinab I played Dark Souls 1 for the first time Dark Souls 3 for the first time, and Elden Ring for the first time all within a year of each other, I can safely say I did not like elden ring and loved the others. What a weird way to brush of valid criticism lol

@@scandalouspanda7489 You project your expirience on everyone so dont talk about being needless and rude

@Krinab You'd think that, but no. I'm also one of those people that played Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 many years after Fallout 3. Same thing with Dark Souls 1, my first playthrough was last year. Today I think Fallout 1 and 2 are a lot better than Fallout 3. Dark Souls 1 also has something that's missing from Elden Ring.

@@Dimebag-wx2rs Probably because it plays more like Bloodbourne than a traditional Dark Souls. Bloodbourne and Elden Ring are both my favorite SoulsBourne games because of the pacing of combat. They're very similar but very different games. Elden Ring also is a lot less linear so its easy to get lost while trying to track certain things. I feel like guides help the experience but not if you read it point for point and follow it to a T. I found a great in depth guide that was also able to just be glanced at. After reading the first few things to do in an area, you usually get the jist of everything. I've also been playing since DS2 and things just seem to get better.

I didn't grow up with Fromsoft games I've played all of them and while Elden Do g is phenomenal something is missing but I can't pin it. I've enjoyed it more on my Guts build second play through but by the end game it still doesn't feel right.

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@@Amfortas Most well written elden ring apologism

Yeah like imagine perfectly partying waterfowl dance

There was actually cut content of Godfrey encomending the Tarnished the mission of becoming the Elden Lord. Voice lines of him saying it on a similar fashion as Owl situation. Tarnished are the ones who are with Godfrey after all. Wonder if this was meant to be a flashback or to actually be on the opening.

@@JoseViktor4099 That might have made a better intro. Give us a bit more idea how the heck we got into this mess. It would have been nice to at least have a scheming voice in our ear telling us how wonderful it will be to become Elden Lord.

@@brushdogart Elden Ring opening as a whole is a very weird case. Is the first opening which lacks any animated cinematic on decades, which is weird as we actually seen a very fleshed out cinematic on the story trailer, which makes me think that the intro we got was made fairly late in development ,while an scrapped original starring Godfrey was what were planned. This could be a similar case to Izalith (the reason Izalith was so empty in DS1 is because It was meant to be a poison swamp, and was scrapped end dev) if what I said was completely accurate.

Yeah but what about that asset-flipped marble wall with a face on it? Great lore, fucking breathtaking.

the whole reason tarnished exist is to become elden lord and to try to fix the elden ring govern the land to be a "better" place according to our vision. but that purpose is given by the greater will, so our journey to become elden lord is become a journey to ask a question wether we want it or not. even a couple of NPC always ask us that question or ask our opinion or this matter. like we simply there as a tools to usurp new age and fix marika and previous gods "mistake". . so in a sense, yes we dont have any reason to stay in land between and it become our objective to find one. it similar to dark souls like linking the fire was never our purpose but rather given by gwyn himself. that's why there is so many ending in elden ring with different vision of how we see the game should end. you dont care about land between? choose either ranni ending or flame of chaos. you hate it? you can choose dung eater ending and curse eveything

Like every other Souls Game without Open World.

"Once you know the thing the thing isn't as interesting" wow, i've never thought of that

DAI, The whole new AC Trilogy, and so on and so on I would even add Witch 3 but the story and side quest was so satisfying.

I have no interest inthe world past the first time through. I REALLY WANT to keep playing my faith build but it seems empty now that I know what is out there. The sense of adventure is gone.

@@rosameltrozo5889 You say it like its an idiotic point to make, but when the exploration is the main appeal of a video game (as it is in elden ring) it is a very good point to make.

Lmao the majority of the enemies aren’t even what you described, they’re more humans wearing armor or something similar.

Most of the enemies you fight in this game are just normal people like the knights and scholars they only look undead because they can’t die from natural causes so they are really old.

@@jinx5673 Have you ever even played a souls game before elden ring or are you just choking too hard on the games cock? Literally every point he just made is true.

@@gibbygibbstein7858 It’s ok to like men, we don’t judge you. I am objectively correct, most enemies in Elden ring are human.

@Jinx And if your braindead ass knew how to read you'd know he called most of the enemies "undead/hollow human"

So objectively broken that people can consistently dodge it.

@Warwipf If you have to either watch a KZfaq tutorial or spend over half an hour studying a single attack, then yes. Its an overturned attack that borderline requires abusing certain mechanics, and a certain amount of luck since you can't already be in animation when she jumps up.

@@Warwipftell me you have a tiny brain without telling me you have a tiny brain.

@@joshuameadows4922 oh no the boss is hard and requires you to learn its move set. :( the boss is actually quite easy if you use everything the game gives you to defeat it (in particular spirit ashes). If you decide to impose a challenge on yourself and play without them then be prepared for... A challenge I guess?

@@Warwipf you learn its moveset either way you dont just stand there and tank hits but waterfowl has no place in elden ring it requires a such specific movement that the game never teaches you about for all of the bosses its always roll or jump at the correct time and to the correct side this move suddenly changes the movement needed to beat this boss just because you can steamroll all of the bosses in the game if you use spirit ashes and broken weapons doesnt change the fact that this boss is unbalanced in a 1vs1 fight against most builds seems like you never actually watched the video to begin with

but you are literally Sadge . obviously you would be dissapointed.

With all due respect to the developer, I had no chance of finding Blaidd without knowing he had to be there because of the map pointer. Can I really be rationally expected to churn every rock in a giant open world game to get to the NPCs relevant to the story? Too little hand holding can make the game unplayable. I mean, why have visuals at all, let's make a game where you have to orient on sounds alone - even less hand-holding! Would be a really nice experience actually, but making it open world would go downhill fast.

@@ArgumentumAdHominem yeah but the organic feeling of discovery just isn't there with waypoints or other distractions, so you've gotta find a healthy medium.

@@killval849 Indeed. I would appreciate a bit more of a nudge towards where to expect things at the beginning of the game, so I don't miss everything. Later one develops a habit, and nudges are unnecessary. I certainly agree that waypoints are too much

@@ArgumentumAdHominem maybe they shouldnt have pumped the open world full of ubisoft tier slop side content to give the impression the game has more to offer than it really does

@@killval849 But an organic feeling would also mean you actually TALK to these people instead of just standing there waiting for their monologue to end. You know, simple questions like "Who are you?" "Where do you come from as you seem to be a pot guy?" or "Where are you planning to go?".

"and is not effective against Malenia" Cope. "Most people get filtered by Sekiro" Close no one tenth of players got the platinum for Sekiro, same for Elden Ring, you ain't special.

@@facundovera3227get a grip and stfu

@@facundovera3227 The towering intellect of ERfags, ladies and gentlemen lol

@@facundovera3227 why do you play Dark Souls? Don't you remember what Solare told you? Same thing can be said to you

Sekiro sold over 10 milion copies, which sounds like it sold really well actualy

Yeah elden ring lore just exists cause it has to exist, maybe it has to do with open world but idk, keeps like they lacked vision

Not all souls need to be exactly the same this isn't even a souls game to begin with its an entirely different tale and if you think the lore is just there because it has to be that's an incredibly terrible take because this game has an awesomely amazing story.

elden ring is not a dark souls game

@@WokeandProud Your character really has little to do narratively but make the ending some godlike entity wants. You're basically on a site seeing tour of the aftermath of implied more interesting things. Why I say it feels tacked on is bc of that and more to give some reason why you're fighting who you are vs it feeling like it matters to you. I don't find the lore amazing at all, kind of meh. And I compare it to souls bc this is very much based of souls in design, combat, and so many aspects. It's essentially open world souls

@@j.2512 It's open world souls with different names of things. The gameplay is DS3 with more options. It isn't Sekiro or Bloodborne that are completely different in aesthetic, mechanical focus, and the type of lore they are.

I don’t mind honestly, I’ve spent well over 1000 hours in ds3 and I can keep playing it for the rest of my life lol. Just wish ds1 gets a remake like demon souls and I’d be fine if fromsoft never makes a game again

@@JaJaBi you know that dark souls 1 did get a remake Its called dark souls remastered...

@@TC70 that’s not a remake, that’s a remaster, and I also clarified “like demons souls”.

@@JaJaBi that is also a remaster. Its just better graphics and newer modern features.

@@TC70 no it’s not. A remaster is when you take the old game and make it better, a remake is when you remake an old game from the ground up.

There are no right or wrong in the matter. These are different playstyles. For example I would never use summon or magic out of priciple, because I like to overcome difficult encounters by myslef. Endgame bosses, though (especially Malenia and Beast) are so poorly designed it feels like devs wanted you to cheese them. Still I didn't and can brag now in social media about how cool and elite gamer I am ;) That's my definition of fun.

This review reeks of salt

A friend of mine is a hardcore anime weeb and mained Moonveil then Rivers of Blood once he found those katanas ofcourse using mimic tear and we had some phone calls and he was explaining to me laughingly how busted his tactics were yet he told me that there is no right or wrong way to play and that he is allowed to play how he wants. I HARD disagree since you could not only do alot of DPS with one of these 2 OP katanas, you could also posture break very easily. Giving him a wrong picture of how the game actually feels like to play. Mind you it took me about 200h for my 1st playthrough going blind and trying to find everything by my own. I started to play on 2nd week of the release and it took me about idk how many weeks to finish it, maybe 1 month. Once I finished the game, i started to allow myself to go online and look up stuff and read some reddit posts and guides and whatnot. Oh boy i never knew those 2 katanas were so busted before or the Meteorit Beam being able to oneshot bosses. I am so happy to have avoided all of those meta stupid things since i got a legit gaming experience compared to all the fools who looked up stuff day 1 to make the game experience easier.

@@RandomGameClips27 it sounds like your friend had fun playing a game he enjoys in his own way and you're here shit-talking him about how he's "playing it wrong." Great friend you are.

@@RandomGameClips27 I think as long as you both enjoyed the game then there's no issue. You both payed the $60, like everyone else, and seems like you both got your worth out of it. If we were playing a math problem and went about it completely differently but still got the same correct answer, were either of us truly wrong?

The issue is that you dont necessarily have to meet that boss to overlevel it. In this case, if you don't know a location's existence, and then you came after you were meant to, it feels bad to kill everything so easily and get free powerful upgrades. It feels like content you wouldve enjoyed and tested yourself on, if you didn't go another way. You didn't have the information to make an informed judgement here.

Well what’s the point of coming back to that boss if you can already beat it and it’s not mandatory to continue the main quest of the game? Just destroying it is so shallow. It’s not about leveling up to over level the boss but to beat the boss with skill. I want a fair fight against a fair opponent. This is why Sekiro is my favorite game in the series.

This perfectly describes how I feel about Elden Ring. Probably the only game from this studio I don't feel motivated to replay.

If ur too stupid for this Kind of Story telling u might better go back to Super Mario

I recently finished the game for the first time. The ending I got was the Ranni-ending. However, I'm distinctively saying "got" instead of "chose" because throughout the entire game, I never had the feeling of having any idea what exactly my actions would lead to. I listened to dialogue, I read items descriptions, I paid attention to what was happening, but I still felt like I was left in the dark about my actual supposed goals and also those of the NPCs. When I beat the final boss, I just saw a blue sign on the floor with the prompt to "Call Ranni". I remembered she told me we would meet once again and thought she would now tell me what lies before me and which possibilities I have to choose from. Instead, the game ended with her suddenly taking control and beginning her own new age without me being able to actually agree to this. This left me partially confused. As it turns out, I had missed two very specific parts of her dialogue that is only accessible when a player rests at two specific Sites of Graces that are placed in a way that you most likely won't be in need of resting at them when you reach them. Had I been able to access those parts of her dialogue by simply interacting with Ranni's puppet in my inventory, I likely would have understood Ranni's intentions and also most likely would have chosen her ending on purpose. But as it is, I just stumbled through most of the game and even its ending feeling mostly clueless and ending up with a conclusion to my 120+ hour journey I didn't feel like I actually had sufficient knowledge to be able to say I myself wanted it so.

@Professor Plebian yeah go play call of duty, thats for your Kind

@Professor Plebian You guys have the attention span of a thumb

@Professor Plebian I said what I said. You have a low attention span.

Exactly

I really liked Blaidd too and I was disappointed his questline turned into Ranni's questline.

@@nugsboodlepoo his ‘questline’ is literally all about Ranni. She is a demigod and Blaidd was basically created by her two fingers as her vassal to be loyal to her and protect her etc. She killed her two fingers and strayed from the path of becoming Marika’s replacement so he was essentially ‘programmed’ by her two fingers to go mad if she went against the greater will. That’s why Iji jails him, that’s why we kill his shadow, and ultimately kill him because he went mad and attacked us.

Same and then the game takes the reason it all started away from you.

I mean I like Blaidd but I love Ranni. Blaidd loses his mind because of a bad drug addiction or something so definitely not a good influence on our tarnished, I also heard he kicks it with some really shady characters down under the bridge that leads to gurranq, Marika knows what they do down there, I've heard some awful stories. The worst of which was blaidd was broke down and out he had already sold everything he could sell so he resorted to sexual favors for dung eater for hits of Goldy locks ( that's a drug made by fermenting gold tinged excrement).. You don't even want to know what this stuff does to a man. I heard omens in the shunning grounds make the good stuff and last week I had gone down there to look for my mom's ring that fell down the kitchen sink and wouldn't you know it, there's blaidd sucking omen D#&K for the stuff.🤮. It's a real shame he was a good kid. But now you'll want to cross the road if you see blaidd coming.last week I was walking with a friend of mine and blaidd was like " come on man I only need 5 runes bro I'll Suck your D," get out of here junkie, I told him. Then me and my friend laughed. I felt guilty cause you could really see the shame in his eyes.

@@Kasunex then you didn’t pay attention to the storyline. It was never about Blaidd to begin with.

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get gud tbh

Facts, first playthrough I was not using a meta build(gizha's wheel) but I was using mimic and latenna and every boss fight was piss easy since you lose aggro very often but now, started a new playthrough without summons and average build and is so much more fun,you actually learn the boss moveset it's crazy.

I always aim for solo and a big sword, not just in souls games but in most games that will let me I'm always of the mindset that the moment a boss has more than one target, he's twice as easy Be it an npc, a summon, or a multiplayer companion The boss and you in a 1v1 is what I look for; So summons for me, though not changing the game entirely, ruin the experience I'm seeking

The essence of "Guy gud" right here.

if i replay it again with magic i'll use no summons, but a pure melee build it really makes some of the larger bosses a gigantic pain in the ass and 10x more tedious

I thought about this the other day and I wondered if providing an option to "inspect" when picking up an item would be helpful. I like reading the descriptions but would sometimes forget to go in my inventory and find the suddenly elusive item

​@Joseph Hill the issue is Elden Ring is an open world (supposed to be RPG) action game. To really be an RPG you have to be more then just going from once place to the next fighting enemies. Look I will take it from this point is AC Odyssey are great game? No. It is a really good open world RPG? Yes because it has a mix of enemies and non enemies to talk to. In other words not everyone it just out to kill you. Same with Skyrim, and Witcher 3.

@@evacody1249 RPG is a very loose definition and it signifies a genre, that is, a group of shared features across several games recognised by people. It's not a directive. An RPG game can implement various RPG elements as it desires. Maybe you're saying you don't consider Elden Ring an RPG

@@delirious4565 Elden Ring is not an RPG. That's the problem. It's just an action game.

@@evacody1249 this is actually a huge criticism i've had for a while now and especially of elden ring: why am i CONSTANTLY fighting people? you see almost no people that aren't trying to kill you, which makes it seem like the lands between isn't even a real place that exists. where are the villages? like, seriously, look around the map--where are they? there's castles and nobles but who are their serfdom? what do they rule over? because outside of a handful of shacks and like three ruined villages that couldn't have held more than a dozen or two people there are none. the world of elden ring is big battleworld with no one in it. that's why i think elden ring is actually worse than most open worlds, because the world in general is less real.

THANK YOU this is a serious problem with the game. You either have to rely on exploiting obscure AI bugs to open attack windows or add another target through summoning or mimic tear, which boss AI still can't handle 12 years after Demon's Souls released. It's either rote memorization of specific strategies or eliminating any semblance of challenge altogether. I just don't see what I'm supposed to get out of this combat system if it's going to be a boss rush most of the time.

But there’s less build variety

Elden Ring is mixing Sekiro boss design with Dark Souls player's moveset.

@@variantgamer9885 who cares The game is more fun

Sekiro is From doing effectively the opposite of the other games which came before it to see if it works.

@@variantgamer9885 In ER there are two builds, one where you press the dodge button 17 times, then the attack button 1-3 times, repeat ad infinitum, and the one where you're just button mashing and hit trading because your build is so op. I've watched like two dozen ER challenge runs and all but the most exotic ones (like the thorns armor dodge only run or the one-shot all bosses run) all look different, but play identically. Sekiro's single build where you regularly attack, deflect, jump, dodge, grappling hook, mikiri, firecracker, mortal draw, and stealth as well as irregularly use some of the other abilities like umbrella, shuriken, spear, ichimonji, consumables, and some ninjutsu has more non-superficial variety than all of the builds in all other fromsoft games combined.

@J B nooooooooo

Yeah rannis was the only quest I managed to finish myself. It's literally the only one that tells you where anything is, and even then, checking rennas rise is still unlikely, I just got lucky, wandering around trying to figure out what to do after you give her the blade. I got the other endings later, with Google's help.

@J B Ranni's ending is the only where it feels like you're doing an actual quest instead of casually bumping into NPC's.

I agree with this. Makes me think that Fromsoft games would be fine with a bit more dialogue and exposition to help me care about the characters and plot

I mean it makes sense of why they put it in. Now I'd love games to take the Morrowind approach and let you do it your own way and only give a rough outline of where/what/how to do the quest. But the fact is most pleb gamers are so used to following a gps arrow in rpg's its basically required feature now. So both are in. Overall, I'd say the game is good enough to help break that trend and does infact bring back the old style of rpg's. I don't want my hand held, I just want to get the tools to succeed and apply them my own way.

🤦‍♂️ you don't understand RPGs from none RPGs. So please no just no.

Grow some Balls Nancy.