ELDEN RING LORE: Godefroy the Grafted

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Crunchy

Crunchy

Күн бұрын

#eldenring #eldenringlore #videogames #videogame
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Many thanks to Zlofsky for some images of Godefroy and Godrick. Check out their high-resolution photos of in-game assets at x.com/Zlofsky2nd.
For anyone avoiding all spoilers for the DLC, there is stuff from the trailer between 39:38 - 40:35.
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00:00 - Intro
07:12 - The facts
18:10 - Giving up
23:08 - Looking for an answer
32:50 - Madness
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@Tephrinos
@Tephrinos 23 күн бұрын
>buy dlc >find evergaol >get in >"Esmer the piercer"
@Mojj2099
@Mojj2099 23 күн бұрын
Can’t wait for “The prancing tiger” catacombs boss fight !
@positivecontacts
@positivecontacts 16 күн бұрын
First boss I beat in the main game!
@theholypopechodeii4367
@theholypopechodeii4367 15 күн бұрын
@Mojj2099 Bro ur not even wrong lmao but it actually has different attacks unlike godefroy the ass
@Inabin
@Inabin 13 күн бұрын
@@Mojj2099at least that one is meant to be a type of thing and not an individual
@plushyyu4327
@plushyyu4327 4 күн бұрын
My favorite mini boss was Bail the sorrow
@Clexie368
@Clexie368 25 күн бұрын
What if godefroy is just a silly guy
@obamabiden
@obamabiden Ай бұрын
i really hope the dlc just randomly has a green haired clone of malenia without her rot goddess form called some shit like "Molly, blade of Mike"
@neunleben1358
@neunleben1358 Ай бұрын
Miquella being referred to as Mike is something that I want to happen more often lol
@bigslappy823
@bigslappy823 Ай бұрын
Malaria, Blade of Michelob Ultra
@Thomahawk1234
@Thomahawk1234 27 күн бұрын
@@neunleben1358 "Miquella, the Mohg-lested" was datamined from the last update I'm afraid.
@sethleoric2598
@sethleoric2598 27 күн бұрын
Starscourge Randy
@sethleoric2598
@sethleoric2598 27 күн бұрын
​@@neunleben1358mickey
@timdiggity
@timdiggity Ай бұрын
I’m scared to watch, I fear I may become Godefroy-pilled
@Turtlenomad
@Turtlenomad Ай бұрын
When you talk to Gideon after burning the Erdtree he says: "The pursuit of knowledge is without end, for knowledge is never a thing complete. Perhaps the same could be said about guidance. Who's to say whether we'll remain who we are, once the fight is finished?" I think this fits nicely with the idea of Destined Death being the person you're destined to be
@funnybunnygirl1
@funnybunnygirl1 Ай бұрын
This is also a prevalent idea in buddhism, which souls games draw a ton of inspiration from. This video clocked it so well, I'm almost sure this is what Miyazaki was going for.
@Hellxar1
@Hellxar1 Ай бұрын
One thing that always stood out to me is how the Marika/Radagon revelation impacts the Goldmask quest. When we encounter Goldmask at Leyndell he has run into a block on his mission to 'fix' the flaws of the Golden Order, whatever that entails, as according to Corhyn he has become obsessed with Radagon and in order to continue on his quest we must inform him that Marika and Radagon are the same being. What I took this to mean is that the nature of Marika and Radagon's existence, and by extension the other examples of dual/multi identities seen throughout the game, are somehow central to the nature of the Golden Order itself. Why else would that in particular be the one thing that Goldmask needs in order to make the Mending Rune of Perfect Order?
@albegade
@albegade Ай бұрын
Also ties with the weird stuff with the two Ds and the golden order being the only institution that excepts their existence. Which I realize probably comes up in the video but I'm still watching it.
@alfalldoot6715
@alfalldoot6715 20 күн бұрын
There are also two dual laws that are central to fundamentalism, that being causality and regression
@Anch0rd
@Anch0rd Ай бұрын
You've done irreparable damage to what cohesion existed for my understanding of the lore. Delete Godefroy
@enlongjones2394
@enlongjones2394 28 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to get to the DLC and fight Richard, Lord of Blasphemy.
@sethleoric2598
@sethleoric2598 28 күн бұрын
Starscourge Randy, Melanie blade of Mack, Mug the lord of blood, Marge the Omen King, Remy Queen Of The Moon, and
@AkiraSpikes
@AkiraSpikes 28 күн бұрын
@@sethleoric2598 you wouldn't believe it but Rellana does exist
@sethleoric2598
@sethleoric2598 28 күн бұрын
@@AkiraSpikes lmao
@hiddenshadow2105
@hiddenshadow2105 26 күн бұрын
The theme music is never going let you down, never gonna let you go...
@Acesahn
@Acesahn 23 күн бұрын
Malakai the Big Black Dog.
@andrebarbosa5374
@andrebarbosa5374 Ай бұрын
Godefroy’s existence implies an event in which George R.R Martin cries as he writes 17 additional pages of lore because Miyazaki showed up that afternoon saying “fuck you im adding another Godrick to the game”
@aprinnyonbreak1290
@aprinnyonbreak1290 Ай бұрын
I cry every time I think that I never got to see Martin's face after Miyazaki said "I like this Malenia character. But I'm taking her shoes off"
@DrooledOn
@DrooledOn 28 күн бұрын
My theory is he is a copy of godrick that was made when he escaped the battle of lyndell (let me cook)
@solidpython4964
@solidpython4964 25 күн бұрын
I was hypnotized by the missed parries against radagon and didn’t listen to anything, 10/10 video
@CrunchyVideos
@CrunchyVideos 25 күн бұрын
My plan worked
@dragonfluf
@dragonfluf Ай бұрын
It's so funny that Godefroy is trivial to explain from a meta perspective (repeat boss, something that elden ring does constantly), but in-canon he's a fucking anomaly that upends reality as we know it.
@giladmachluf3663
@giladmachluf3663 16 күн бұрын
Is he not just a descendant of Godfrey that precedes Godrick and taught Godrick how to Graft?
@Sharkamfss
@Sharkamfss 11 күн бұрын
​@@giladmachluf3663 Things get confusing when you consider how irrelevant he is in the main game compared to Godrick the Golden.
@1stCallipostle
@1stCallipostle 9 күн бұрын
​@@SharkamfssWe can just arbitrarily place his capture wherever in the timeline makes him matter the least. Heck, maybe he didn't even have to directly reach grafting. Maybe Godrick just found his pink diary with the secrets of grafting
@lekarabbit5181
@lekarabbit5181 Ай бұрын
Godefroy obviously was the most powerful being in elden ring until that knight came along and defeated him. And that knight went on to become the soilder of God Rick
@christophersmith8848
@christophersmith8848 Ай бұрын
Rick wouldn't have left anything behind to be put in the Evergoal, the knight was probably trained by him though
@jt_no_money2381
@jt_no_money2381 Ай бұрын
Godefroy is the key to everything in Elden Ring. All secrets and lore run through him. With Godefroy all things are possible!
@Reemus4
@Reemus4 Ай бұрын
We ask "Why is Godefroy?" and the abyss stares back at us, unblinking.
@unnamedmuffin
@unnamedmuffin Ай бұрын
@@Reemus4 Everyone always asks "Why is Godefroy?", but no one ever stops to ask "How is Godefroy?" 😢
@Takinu
@Takinu Ай бұрын
"Stand proud Malenia, you are strong." -GOATfroy
@Sercroc
@Sercroc Ай бұрын
blue smelter godrick
@surkhabsingh5856
@surkhabsingh5856 Ай бұрын
Holy shit. Imagine how insane the run to the boss will be. It's over
@thegodofsoapkekcario1970
@thegodofsoapkekcario1970 Ай бұрын
Stray Blue Smelter Godefroy, the First Champion Vicar, Way of Tomoe.
@depsi4518
@depsi4518 21 күн бұрын
I think godefroy was godricks twin brother but he was too freaky and got banished to an everjail
@depsi4518
@depsi4518 21 күн бұрын
And the thing about Elden ring twins being weird and sharing a soul
@simplesimon4374
@simplesimon4374 21 күн бұрын
lmao too freaky omfg 😂
@fosterbennington6405
@fosterbennington6405 18 күн бұрын
He’s couldn’t stop grafting toes to his mouth
@shadnic159
@shadnic159 Ай бұрын
I love that you basically used Godefroy as a tool to express your complex idea on what destined death could actually signify.
@Nechrome9
@Nechrome9 13 күн бұрын
Godefroy really IS the key to all of this
@xd-px5ne
@xd-px5ne Ай бұрын
I came here to know more about why Godefroy even existed and to hear people rant about how his existence ruined everything it touched, I didn't expect a full-fledged theory about the concept of death
@dgalloway107
@dgalloway107 Ай бұрын
We all know the dlc is really going to be about Fodgroy the Grafted.
@LividCreature
@LividCreature Ай бұрын
Nah, Gordrick, Son of Gord
@adradox
@adradox Ай бұрын
DLC will introduce Godefraud The Limbless.
@xcooterxsmashx
@xcooterxsmashx Ай бұрын
If you can make a 45 minute lore video for someone with 0 lore. I’m all in
@ASDrofl
@ASDrofl Ай бұрын
Horrible thumbnail, love it
@humblegamer7876
@humblegamer7876 Ай бұрын
Lore hunters hate him!!
@Sinhsseax
@Sinhsseax Ай бұрын
@@humblegamer7876 The only thing missing is: Stepbro, I'm stuck in an evergaol
@xXxMISTATRIGGAxXx
@xXxMISTATRIGGAxXx Ай бұрын
He definitely made Godefroy look like a coomer its gold
@Kimboleena
@Kimboleena Ай бұрын
Me too. It got me.
@Enkinanna
@Enkinanna Ай бұрын
Holy shit he cookin The whole “light is time” thing is a concept in real world physics btw, it’s basically one way of looking at relativity
@Thorgrax
@Thorgrax Ай бұрын
Godefroy sisters, we literally cant stop winning.
@tezereth
@tezereth Ай бұрын
So true
@dusti9353
@dusti9353 26 күн бұрын
Third this
@depalodor
@depalodor Ай бұрын
only the strongest lore masters can bring forth the schizoest of theories
@BenSolo4
@BenSolo4 Ай бұрын
What if the real Godefroy was the friends we made along the way
@Arei1283
@Arei1283 Ай бұрын
I always thought that godefroy was just Godrick’s father and son of Godwyn, which is why Godrick has the “the golden” title, which is shared by Godwyn, this also explains why Godrick’s demigod blood is so tainted because he’s so far from the original lineage, thats why he’s more like a distant relative to marika than a actual Demi god Furthermore, the walking Mausoleums have the corpses of dead Demi gods, also Vyke killed two Demi gods and got two great runes, showing there were more “distant cousin” like Demi gods that weren’t important, similar to Godrick
@deepindigo1937
@deepindigo1937 Ай бұрын
This could make sense, during the night of the black knives it is said that godwyn was the first demigod to die and since none of the other demigods are mention to ever having kids it would mean that the victims were members opf the golden lineage of godwyn that resided within leyndell, leaving only the most distant and unimportant relatives alive, after the power vacuum formed the new heir should have been godrick´s father godefroy who alfer seeing his more powerful relatives murder turned to grafting as a way to become stronger( him being of an older generation of the golden line would justify him having more HP than godrick) and then lead an army to reclaim leyndell during wich, he was bested and imprisoned, after his defeat godrick could have gotten a chair in the council just to get him to surrender, during the second attack on leyndell he scaped and turn to grafting just like his father did but wanted to get better pieces before triying to reclaim the thone once again.
@hobogaming2656
@hobogaming2656 Ай бұрын
Golden Godfrey is a projection being formed by margott. As you can see margotts golden weapons are the same color as goldfrey. He projects him in an attempt to hold the tarnished off
@selimword25
@selimword25 Ай бұрын
One of the most sophisticated lore videos I’ve seen. I love how you use Godefroy as an inroad into so many different lines of inquiry until the scope of your question matches that of the game as a whole.
@QuestionableObject
@QuestionableObject Ай бұрын
Its what the existence of Godefroy *should* prompt, not just a total piss-baby shut down tantrum (this is a Ratatoskr call-out post)
@therealowenmcbride
@therealowenmcbride 10 күн бұрын
Godefroy is obv Godrick’s mimic tear
@GODHAND42
@GODHAND42 28 күн бұрын
What if Godefroy is a mimic tear? Visually he looks a lot like how your own mimic tear replicates you , and it would explain why he’s an exact 1:1 clone of Godrick but with more health. It’s a loose connection, but Godrick is mentioned in the “mimic’s veil” item and that seems pretty deliberate. I haven’t done enough research, but it could be some experiment or test with the mimic tear that was imprisoned because they were unwilling or unable to kill it because of its ties to a demigod
@ratatoskr6324
@ratatoskr6324 Ай бұрын
😡😡
@brandon_jens6620
@brandon_jens6620 Ай бұрын
Cope harder! Godefroy is the heir to all that is golden!
@kimlee6643
@kimlee6643 Ай бұрын
Please delete this. There's no evidence of this character in the game. It's all mods.
@mrgumelo4067
@mrgumelo4067 Ай бұрын
You lie, fool
@BryanB-dg8pn
@BryanB-dg8pn Ай бұрын
Lol
@XxerikpereyraxX
@XxerikpereyraxX Ай бұрын
He’s not canon, he isn’t in the lore
@samuelbrown7466
@samuelbrown7466 Ай бұрын
Wait…. Is radagons hair red and by extension marika hair gold, because it’s where the other personality is sealed? This would make sense as it would mean that radagon of the golden order is in fact associated with the golden hair meaning that the red haired curse of radagon is marikas influence
@AndroidNoir-L06k
@AndroidNoir-L06k Ай бұрын
​@@XxerikpereyraxXGordon Woo influence
@zacharys8141
@zacharys8141 28 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to fight rahdaniel in the dlc
@gagothesour
@gagothesour 28 күн бұрын
damn daniel
@Nechrome9
@Nechrome9 13 күн бұрын
Well....
@zacharys8141
@zacharys8141 13 күн бұрын
@@Nechrome9 yeah it happened
@Sharkamfss
@Sharkamfss 11 күн бұрын
Honestly they should've committed to the bit and called him Prime Chadahn, since that's what phase 1 was going for.
@damiandestovar378
@damiandestovar378 3 күн бұрын
They radiddle did it and now he’s a radaddle ****** v*****.
@goldenlost1761
@goldenlost1761 Ай бұрын
Godefroy would have beaten Malenia if he were at Stormveil instead of Godrick.
@amenberk1157
@amenberk1157 19 күн бұрын
I haven't watched tje video yet but i am absolutely 100% certain that there is NOT 40 minutes of lore on fucking godefroy in the game
@shaunv3673
@shaunv3673 Ай бұрын
FromSoftware spent so much time, money, and technical prowess on simply the sheer number of bones needed to animate Godrick, fighting him once simply wasn't enough. So, while Godrick is the "runt of litter" and the least of the demi-gods, he is a technical marvel.
@PatPeez
@PatPeez Ай бұрын
Not just that, he was also a really big part of the initial marketing. Like for a while he was the main boss that was shown off (which makes sense, he's the first run bearer most people will fight and you don't want to spoil the later ones) hell they even got the Man at Arms youtube channel to make a real, full sized version of Godrick's axe as a promo and there is no way that was cheap.
@hannahshark8080
@hannahshark8080 Ай бұрын
Godefroy isn't real, he can't hurt me
@titaniumteddybear
@titaniumteddybear Ай бұрын
I think you've got a point about the game showing different "identify aspects". In our culture we often think of a person as being composed of 2 things: a body and a soul. We even have stories about the soul leaving the body and going on adventures and stuff. But this is a completely culture-bound understand of existence. It seems like in The Lands Between each person is composed of multiple different aspects, and these different aspects can separate from the host and do their own thing for a while. We see in-game that Dunge Eater's 'red summon' knows things that the real Dung Eater doesn't. Vyke seems to have split off the part of him that is consumed by the Flame of Frenzy. Mohg seems to have taken part of himself and is using it to guard that Church. Morgott has done the same thing; twice. This is also why Sellen can still speak to us after we take her "soul": we've taken the largest part of her, but a fragment of her remains trapped in the body. So "identity aspects" feels like a good description.
@kingnro1
@kingnro1 Ай бұрын
Good points. Reminds me of how Stannis vaguely experiences in his nightmares the actions of the shadow assassin in ASOIAF.
@Lionbug
@Lionbug 3 күн бұрын
By the title? Has to be a shitpost. By video quality? Vaati’s second channel
@deathstroke3140
@deathstroke3140 4 күн бұрын
It's actually quite simple. Godefroy is not related to any of the demigods. He was a General in Godrick's army that used a mimic vail to copy Godrick's look and fighting style in combat. This served two purposes. It kept Godrick away from the battlefield to protect him from harm, while the soldiers would see Godrick fighting along the side of them, increasing their loyalty and respect for their leader. When Godefroy was eventually defeated, the rus was over. Godefroy was locked away and Godrick's men were scattered in the wind. Godrick himself didn't have the bravery or manpower to travel into Altus Plateau to save him. There is no lore or evidence to back this up, it just makes more sense in my head.
@Eugene_TEC
@Eugene_TEC 5 күн бұрын
Walking the path Vaati dared not tread.
@hex_gekko29568
@hex_gekko29568 Ай бұрын
That ending is mindblowing by the way! It would match the idea of a natural cycle being disrupted out of a fear of death which in turn curses life which is basically Dark Souls.
@0The_Farlander0
@0The_Farlander0 20 күн бұрын
What if i just ate a bunch of explosives and microwaved myself. What then. What are the lore implications of that
@fishebola
@fishebola 3 күн бұрын
Gonna be real, fully outside of shitposting, in lore there were a lot more demigods than just the ones with great runes. The walking mausoleums are actually demigods who lost their souls in one way or another, and search for the souls of great foes to replace them
@Izaak_Marzz
@Izaak_Marzz Ай бұрын
My two cents is that Elden ring is an attempt to replicate a quality of real world mythology that rarely if ever gets adapted, that being the plasticity of the identity of gods. In the real world myths are made up so the names and characteristics of gods are determined by whoever is telling the story at the time. If two versions of a myth exist than a modern author adapting typically picks one or the other or tries to merge them into one story. I think Elden ring is an attempt at a story where two mutually exclusive versions of characters and events are somehow paradoxically true. I’m not sure if any of this made sense. I might elaborate if someone leaves a comment asking me to.
@CrunchyVideos
@CrunchyVideos Ай бұрын
I understand exactly what you mean, and I’ve said something similar at times. The best genre to stick Elden Ring isn’t exactly fantasy or fairy tale- it’s more like a religious text, with all the layers of code and parable and multiple narrators and evolution across time.
@nomattr
@nomattr Ай бұрын
@@CrunchyVideos imo all fromsoft soulslikes have this quality of religious/mythical story (the least of it I see is in Bloodborne, which evokes rather madman's rambling, which still in some crazy way is appropriate).
@senseikensei7470
@senseikensei7470 13 күн бұрын
Radagon is Marika Miquella is St. Trina Godfrey is Hoarah Loux And Elden Ring is Dark Souls.
@Argemia
@Argemia 12 күн бұрын
@@senseikensei7470 Genious Kojimbo, its that simple
@Sharkamfss
@Sharkamfss 11 күн бұрын
​@@Argemia Hidetakeo Kojizaki
@JIMMYTIMS
@JIMMYTIMS 24 күн бұрын
In an interview with Miyazaki, someone asked a question about Godefroy. Miyazaki said quote, “I don’t want to talk about him.” And he became visibly upset at the mere mention. Odd…
@Itachi-ye5cp
@Itachi-ye5cp 24 күн бұрын
scripulous fingore moment
@willchase5692
@willchase5692 10 күн бұрын
Do you have a source for this?
@JIMMYTIMS
@JIMMYTIMS 10 күн бұрын
@@willchase5692 my buddy told me
@BasedRamen
@BasedRamen 10 күн бұрын
It's Dead Bart all over again
@dars1961
@dars1961 9 күн бұрын
Godefroy was just made so Godrick doesnt get any credit for the idea of grafting, its the final kick of his corpse, since Gostoc couldnt do enough damage.
@n3ptune130
@n3ptune130 6 күн бұрын
Godrick is never said to be the child of Marika, he’s only ever mentioned to be a descendant of the Golden Lineage. Enia even refers to him as having a “distant relation” and his “divine blood sorely diluted”
@tysimpso1448
@tysimpso1448 6 күн бұрын
@@n3ptune130 I mean he actually has a throne in Lendyell, so he must've been at least somewhat important to the Golden Lineage.
@n3ptune130
@n3ptune130 6 күн бұрын
@@tysimpso1448 well with Godwyn dead, he’s all that remains of the Golden Lineage
@n3ptune130
@n3ptune130 6 күн бұрын
@@tysimpso1448 and seeing that Godwyn gets no throne of his own, it was probably originally his
@Tearopp
@Tearopp 6 күн бұрын
@@n3ptune130 you’re forgetting nepheli loux
@arandomcrowe
@arandomcrowe 5 күн бұрын
⁠​⁠@@Tearoppnepheli isn’t one of Marika’s children, not making her a true part of the golden lineage
@D3adMoros3
@D3adMoros3 Ай бұрын
While I understand that the Three Sisters is a minor point in the video, I always kinda thought that the towers are the sisters and it’s just a poetic name of this particular architectural ensemble
@nayyarrashid4661
@nayyarrashid4661 Ай бұрын
That's exactly what I thought.
@WoobertAIO
@WoobertAIO 9 күн бұрын
It could also be that Ranni literally had 2 sisters. We do know that Marika had a *lot* of unnamed children, which were unnamed because she didn't deem them worthy of being called Demigods, and eventually had them killed, any records of their existence erased, and their corpses entombed inside the Walking Mausoleums.
@zeitl0641
@zeitl0641 24 күн бұрын
What if Godrick is just a head grafted onto Godefroy’s body?
@user-lp9on1cw6u
@user-lp9on1cw6u 24 күн бұрын
So you are saying Godrick is just a Dio wannabe?
@jackofastora8962
@jackofastora8962 15 күн бұрын
Imo godefroy is in fact just a mimic godrick made because he was too scared to actually go attack the capital
@ItsDobbie
@ItsDobbie 13 күн бұрын
That… makes the most sense, actually.
@RedAequus
@RedAequus Ай бұрын
Vaati been real quiet since this dropped...
@jessiesewell4076
@jessiesewell4076 Ай бұрын
It's because he's too busy writing the cliff notes version of everyone else's work.
@rhynisiris624
@rhynisiris624 Ай бұрын
I'm convinced our roundtable is the past. Its the only time the two fingers are alive and "speaking".
@ihaveouid3518
@ihaveouid3518 Ай бұрын
Love this take and it makes sense
@user-gh6sn3wd7v
@user-gh6sn3wd7v Ай бұрын
This still doesn't explain why it ends up burning along with the Erdtree
@rhynisiris624
@rhynisiris624 Ай бұрын
​@@user-gh6sn3wd7v in the video crunchy proposes it's in the past in the sense that it's a remembrance hewn into the erdtree. So it burning when you burn the erdtree is actually more evidence to that idea.
@firestargaming9521
@firestargaming9521 28 күн бұрын
@@user-gh6sn3wd7v did you *watch* the video?
@PatPeez
@PatPeez Ай бұрын
So from what I've come to understand the evergaols are largely meant to be inescapable (except for Blaidd for unkown reasons) so maybe thats why the sky inside them is pitch black. The stars determine fate, and once you are in the evergaol you no longer have a fate, you're just stuck there, forever.
@halcyondazed5665
@halcyondazed5665 10 күн бұрын
Fuck it, Godefroy was a mimic tear that took Godrick's form and got trapped in an Evergaol
@jakubchalupa8510
@jakubchalupa8510 Ай бұрын
My headcannon is that Godrick is not only a weakly coward, but also extremely unoriginal
@oniwolf018
@oniwolf018 28 күн бұрын
This is the lie that Shabriri spread across the land. That Godefroy is real and matters. Everyone believed in it so hard that it manifested into a phantom of faux reality. Something that doesn't exist... existing, truly a paradox, one might said even say Chaotic...
@ViperJoe
@ViperJoe Ай бұрын
The idea of death being "the person you're destined to become" seems to fit nicely with the moment from the recent story trailer for the DLC where the narrator states that Miquella abandoned everything... even his *fate*, with an image of St. Trina falling/being stripped away or discarded(?)
@14deepwoken88
@14deepwoken88 28 күн бұрын
I hope there's gonna be an "Elder Beast" gaol which contains a phantom Elden Beast in the DLC
@patrickburke2187
@patrickburke2187 23 күн бұрын
Godrick the Grafted already represents a significant challenge to interpret. He is a distant descendant of the Golden Lineage. If he is a distant descendant, then where are all the intermediate descendants between him and Godwyn? These games are frequently pretty flexible with the way they play with the concept of time. Elden Ring broadly deals with the concept of “claim to power”, with a variety of characters having a variety of justifications for their particular “claim to power”. Miquella’s claim is his charisma, his leadership, his influence, his perceived virtue. Radahn’s is his might, his martial prowess. So on and so forth. Godrick’s is that he is related to people who have power. He serves the themes of the game by serving as an example of a “weak” claim to power. Heritage alone is not enough; someone who seeks to claim power must already have power in some form themselves. And that’s why he resorts to grafting. This is a necessary point for the game to make in order to establish its basic premise, but, in a more “traditional” form of storytelling, would also necessitate the manufacture of an entire line of descendants leading from Godwyn to Godrick in order for it to “make sense” in the minds of the audience. To this end, Godefroy doesn’t really contradict existing lore any more than Godrick does; he’s just an intermediate ancestor between Godrick and Godwyn (assuming Godwyn IS Godrick’s closest relative) I’m genuinely kind of surprised that I see people really confused by Godefroy and not by Godrick. The existence of Godrick is just as confusing as Godefroy if you think about it.
@Crestfallen_Warrior
@Crestfallen_Warrior Ай бұрын
"I'm Melanie, Blade of Michaela."
@aprinnyonbreak1290
@aprinnyonbreak1290 Ай бұрын
I'm Melvin, Beekeeper of Mark
@Alex_Barbosa
@Alex_Barbosa Ай бұрын
It would be absolutely hilarious if the DLC comes out and Godefroy is a cornerstone of its connection to the lore.
@donk8961
@donk8961 11 күн бұрын
Dud acts confused for 40 minutes then literally explains the deepest meaning in elden ring
@JoseViktor4099
@JoseViktor4099 10 күн бұрын
"Well, they may be a lot of repeated boss fights, but at least it does make sense with the lore as we might expect multiple of them or they are an illusion, bec-" Godefroy from fucking nowhere "Check this out"
@jarlsterra
@jarlsterra 27 күн бұрын
Godfrey was born as Hoarah Loux. He was a famous warlord of time past and when he became Marikas consort, he donned a new, more benevolent outwards appearance to function more in line with his new role as Elden Lord. He wears Serosh on his back to keep himself in line. Serosh is constantly biting Godfrey, quelling any of his bloodlust from coming back. When you best him, he kills Serosh and lets his old self loose.
@Zyckro
@Zyckro 27 күн бұрын
Do you know how he was shown in the intro cinematic skewered with Serosh?
@Zyckro
@Zyckro 27 күн бұрын
If Serosh was supposed to be there to quell his bloodlust or whatever.
@jarlsterra
@jarlsterra 27 күн бұрын
@@Zyckro I think the obvious answer to that dilemma is that Serosh's role within the life of Godfrey changed. He was probably his war companion and then repurposed once Godfrey became Elden Lord.
@Zyckro
@Zyckro 27 күн бұрын
@@jarlsterra ah ok. do we know if Serosh was given to Godfrey or he found him? We know he took him up as a beast regent, but I don’t remember if that was because Marika gave the beast to him or he willingly took him in.
@Pinyaps
@Pinyaps Күн бұрын
I love how we've talked about everything BUT Godefroy in this video
@killerking2346
@killerking2346 Ай бұрын
*Dark Phantom Ratatoskr has invaded*
@dakotavincent3170
@dakotavincent3170 Ай бұрын
Top comment
@daddywrys3288
@daddywrys3288 Ай бұрын
That's got to be one of my favorite thumbnails I've seen on KZfaq.
@dmhenderson
@dmhenderson 20 күн бұрын
Forget which item elaborates on this, but the reason Godfrey attached Serosh (his beast regent) to his back was to quell his urge to just murder everyone which was unfitting for a lord. Before he was Godfrey, he was just some random wildman named Horah Loux, so when he rips Serosh off of him, he's becoming one with his bestial nature again.
@humpsterthedumpster3653
@humpsterthedumpster3653 23 күн бұрын
I think I got scarlet brainrot while watching this
@spekter1391
@spekter1391 22 күн бұрын
pfp brother
@humpsterthedumpster3653
@humpsterthedumpster3653 22 күн бұрын
@@spekter1391 pfp brother
@morayeel344
@morayeel344 21 күн бұрын
bad pfp
@codsamy23
@codsamy23 Ай бұрын
My schizophrenia leveled up
@BaalFridge
@BaalFridge Ай бұрын
Oh no the 40 minutes Godefroy video is real. He wasn't joking.
@onepotatoeyboi4518
@onepotatoeyboi4518 8 күн бұрын
A small misconception about the morgott thrones, the thrones being displayed are only the thrones of traitors towards the golden order, more specifically people who no longer follow the golden order. Mohg and Godwyns thrones are not shown due to the fact that Godwyn died as a respected and true ally to the golden order and that mohg by being treated as an omen and not royalty never had anything owed to the golden order, including his loyalty. What must've occurred is that Godefroy while being imprisoned either was too small a piece to be considered a traitor (either from his strength or great rune capacity) or simply was not a traitor to the golden order.
@JJusmi
@JJusmi 6 күн бұрын
now that is a thumbnail
@royalthewaffle
@royalthewaffle 26 күн бұрын
I forgot this was about Godefroy like 5 times
@razjeban
@razjeban 27 күн бұрын
"does that mean that shards of the ring could be extracted before the ring was shattered?" - yes. Marika extracted the rune of death from the ring before it was shattered.
@Brother-Martell
@Brother-Martell 27 күн бұрын
Spot on
@chaoticstarfish3401
@chaoticstarfish3401 26 күн бұрын
It's also crucial to the plot. The Night of the Black Knives could only happen because of that, and only after it, "Marika was driven to the brink, and the Elden Ring was shattered".
@lotuschorus
@lotuschorus 4 күн бұрын
Ok, Now make a vid on Goondrick the Edgelord
@cadaver_on_autopilot
@cadaver_on_autopilot Ай бұрын
Its like that space ghost coast to coast episode where its like "Maybe its uh a different Ant?" And then space ghost goes "No, no, ITS HIS TWIN BROTHER!"
@piklepower
@piklepower Ай бұрын
I wonder if at fromsoft they were wondering what to put in this ever jail and some guy just said put godrick but give him a stupid name and everybody was like yeah that’s pretty funny.
@bigboy6019
@bigboy6019 26 күн бұрын
i had always assumed that godefroy exists to further showcase how the practice of grafting has been going on for generations passed down the golden lineage and that its always been reviled (which is why godefroy is in prison). they decided to show a member of the golden lineage imprisoned for this practice, reused godricks model for convenience, and didnt think much of it after that
@Bioguy5
@Bioguy5 26 күн бұрын
Imagine if the evergaols were designed like the rift shield-boosting focus so that those trapped inside could never sleep or go mad. They are doomed to eternally live out every minute of their confinement completely sane and lucid- WAIT!!!! THAT'S WHY VYKE NO LONGER HAS MADNESS! Getting trapped in the evergaol cured him of madness! But when he invades outside, he has the frenzied flame again! The gaol even has the blue-purple tint of the clarifying horn charm, which boosts resistance to sleep and madness. That and the rift shield-which also boosts focus-bares a symbol that's identical to the blue rift inside the evergaols. And it's the prisoner class that starts with that shield. Oh my God... it all makes sense now.
@soarel325
@soarel325 Ай бұрын
I think I've mentioned this before, but the Golden Lineage is itself kind of a mess - why does only Godwyn have this long line of descent, while no other demigod has children (save maybe Malenia, if her weird clones count)? Why does Godrick, weak as he is, hold demigod status despite being such a distant descendant? What happened to all the children between Godwyn and Godrick? Are they the soulless demigods entombed in the Wandering Mausoleums? Were they killed on the Night of the Black Knives after Godwyn (Ranni talks about demigodS, plural, falling, STARTING with Godwyn...)?
@PatPeez
@PatPeez Ай бұрын
Maybe since Godwyn was actually on the throne, and then later leaving it open upon his banishment the Golden lineage went on a Game of Thrones-esque war of succession that resulted in family turning on each other, backstabbing and creating new heirs in a race to the bottom that the other demigods didn't have to deal with because they either had their own goals or in the case of the omen twins, were locked away.
@GenUrobutcher
@GenUrobutcher 17 күн бұрын
"Guys Elden Ring lore is Peak!" Elden ring lore:
@jovimbeee
@jovimbeee Ай бұрын
Maybe Godefroy is the friends we made along the way
@FenrisRM
@FenrisRM Ай бұрын
do you smell it my fellow Dark Souls lorenerds? yeees thats right... *TIME IS CONVOLUTED IN THESE LANDS*
@afrochikkin
@afrochikkin 5 күн бұрын
If the Elden Ring represents the very laws of reality, I think it's pretty reasonable to suggest that the literal shattering and reforming of those laws would fracture reality. We also know that the Elden Ring was once in a different form, but that seems to have been extricated from the Lands Between, both as a place and as a time. It's just as possible that other forms of the Elden Ring existed in different times, and it's possible that a rune existed at that time that regulated identity, and that that rune has been lost. But, this is incredibly speculative, of course.
@afrochikkin
@afrochikkin 5 күн бұрын
Maybe a future form the Ring will exist that has a novel Great Rune (in the same way that the Rune of Mending Death appears to be a new, novel Rune) which allows the regulation of identity.
@KeyToWite
@KeyToWite 4 күн бұрын
How did i not know of this video sooner. Godefroy is literally my favorite character purely because of how funny it is seeing godrick has an identical to him relative with a funnier name
@sethleoric2598
@sethleoric2598 28 күн бұрын
What a cool character, i feel like it would be great to see one Starscourge Randy, Melanie blade of Mack, Mug the lord of blood, Marge the Omen King, and Remy Queen Of The Moon !
@Palducks
@Palducks Ай бұрын
The division of the Hand into fingers as a mistake in regards to personality reminds me of a Classic Star Trek Episode. Kirk:2=? Through a Transporter accident, Captain Kirk gets split. One part being all of his „good“ attributes, one has all of his „bad“. Even though only one part is actively doing harm, the „good“ part isn’t actually functional either. While EvilKirk is running around the ship, trying to force himself onto subordinates & scheming to get control over the ship, GoodKirk is stagnant, indecisive, meek & has to rely on Spock for making decisions. If Spock would not be there to push him, he would just let EvilKirk destroy him. Only through accepting those aspects of him, that they are part of what drives him & makes him a good captain, he is able to reunite. It’s similar to the fingers. Two-Fingers-unmoving, in an „alive“ state yet rotting. Needing to convene forever with the greater will, which would take so much time, anyone who’d factor into its equation might just give up & leave, the situation changing drastically. It’s to slow. The land under their guidance in a perpetuate state of stagnant life. It seems to need Marika & an Eldenlord bc it itself can’t make day to day decisions, like Spock was to GoodKirk, & big ones need great effort. Frenzied Flame/3-Fingers actually do stuff, they have a goal (utter destruction) & are quick to react in getting into contact with tarnished that show promise in becoming eldenlords, so they can manipulate them into getting touched by the 3 fingers instead of burning the maiden. Also they are the part with the thumb, the most useful digit. They can actually grasp stuff. Similar to Kirk, reuniting the fingers would maybe fix a lot of the extremes & weirdnesses, bc there would be a balance of Life & Death, beauty & ugliness in the world & things could actually move forward instead of being stagnant or destroyed.
@CrunchyVideos
@CrunchyVideos Ай бұрын
After my own heart with Star Trek references to explain ER. Love this explanation and I couldn’t agree more
@derpfluidvariant0916
@derpfluidvariant0916 Ай бұрын
Only problem would be that the two fingers and three fingers don't combine to make a full hand. The 2 are the middle and ring fingers, and the 3 are the index finger, middle finger and thumb.
@Palducks
@Palducks Ай бұрын
​@@derpfluidvariant0916 I don't think the hands themselves have been split but the outer god behind them. The Hands are representative envoys sent by the Greater Will/Frenzied Flame, so they where never created with the rest of the hand. Also it's kinda hard to actually make out which fingers are supposed to be which, because anatomically all fingers look the same, except the thumb. I always saw the 2 fingers looking more like a the pointer(which would be fitting for the righteous guiding force)& the middle with the 3 fingers looking like ring, little & thumb (esp little being a finger that is often seen as superfluous but with pointer & middle out of the equation, it works just as well with thumb as them did) but that might just be bc of the fatless burned look that makes it look thinner.
@spongebobsquarepants9146
@spongebobsquarepants9146 11 күн бұрын
I didn’t understand wtf you were going on about, however my frenzied flamed mind liked hearing elden ring character names . Great vid
@abrittishpanfish6269
@abrittishpanfish6269 26 күн бұрын
Looking forward to the dlc to include the evergaol boss melanie blade of Michael
@felipefreitas8711
@felipefreitas8711 26 күн бұрын
We got Relana of the Carians in the trailer so don't even doubt
@Baconomics1
@Baconomics1 26 күн бұрын
Richard Lord of Bath Salts
@Pizzifrizzo
@Pizzifrizzo Ай бұрын
I'm baffled no one ever seems to think that Godefroy might be Godrick's twin. They're identical, and the game is chock full of twins. Regarding the Great Rune, I think it's fair to assume that Godrick's Rune should have been Godwyn's, since it's the Anchor Rune, and that Godrick only got it due to his ancestor's death. Thus, Godefroy doesn't have a Rune because no Rune was available: only Marika's direct offspring got one.
@christopherlyndsay8611
@christopherlyndsay8611 Ай бұрын
Personally I think the anchor rune isn’t actually that important, and that Godrick has it because it’s similar to grafting in the way that other rings of the Elden ring can be grafted to it.
@Pizzifrizzo
@Pizzifrizzo Ай бұрын
@@christopherlyndsay8611 That's an excellent idea! I think it adds to the Rune's significance, though, not that it's mutually exclusive with what I said. After all, Godwyn seems to be so widely beloved it's ridiculous, he could easily have been the glue that held the Lands Between together, given the chance. He's also sneakily associated with the Crucible, something only someone extremely high in everyone's favour could manage to do unpunished. And lastly, Godefroy's existence proves that grafting was known to the Golden Lineage prior to Godrick.
@Awoken0
@Awoken0 Ай бұрын
I've heard the twin potential mentioned multiple times by content creators, even in this video, but whereas every other twin pair seems different in some way from each other, Godefroy and Godrick are identical in every way. It would be a good answer if we had any other information to go off of instead of just assuming that might be the case.
@Pizzifrizzo
@Pizzifrizzo Ай бұрын
@@Awoken0 Not all twins are different, the D brothers are identical in every way. And yes, it would be nice to have more to go off on, but it is what it is. I still think the best explanation is that Godefroy was Godrick's younger twin and that the Golden Lineage got a seat on the Sovereign Alliance as a whole, just to honour Godwyn's legacy and its political weight. Since there weren't direct offspring of Marika among their ranks, they elected the eldest twin, Godrick, to take a Rune that was destined for Godwyn, not on the basis of strength, but of birth. This logic would explain several unclear points regarding Godefroy and his lack of a Great Rune.
@son_of_the_heavymetal1142
@son_of_the_heavymetal1142 5 күн бұрын
How to fix godefroy: Just change his model in something else
@WaxanFlaxan99
@WaxanFlaxan99 21 күн бұрын
I think to use your alchemy interpretation. After godrick’s betrayal and capture. Part of him was divested and imprisoned. The part of him that was part of the “golden lineage”. Godefroy translates to “god peace” or “good peace”. As if Marika divested him of his godhood, and perhaps any internal peace he may have had. It is interchangeable with Godfrey. That is why he is trying so desperately to be among the good graces of the golden order. His lineage was literally taken from him as punishment, and has taken on a life of its own. Very similar to Millicents relationship to Malenia. The part of her that was divested from her when she could not allow her self to be defeated. She divested herself of her resolve. That’s why Millicent does not give in and let’s her self die as she is, instead of being changed into something she is not.
@WaxanFlaxan99
@WaxanFlaxan99 21 күн бұрын
Miyazaki names all the characters. It was definitely for a reason. And I think it was the reasons above But that’s just my theory haha
@thehylianloach9473
@thehylianloach9473 21 күн бұрын
Best theory I’ve heard yet about this guy, kudos
@WaxanFlaxan99
@WaxanFlaxan99 21 күн бұрын
@@thehylianloach9473 thank you kind adventurer. I wish luck on your upcoming journey
@IrvingIV
@IrvingIV 26 күн бұрын
As a boss fight, Godefroy is excellent game design, he lets you see how much you've developed since the Godrick fight. As a story element, NO NO NO NO NO.
@mvgikk1969
@mvgikk1969 26 күн бұрын
They couldve just made a boss that replaces itself with a spirit version of an earlier boss but nooo they wanted to do this shit
@Cangrix_
@Cangrix_ 26 күн бұрын
Here’s my take Just as morgott can, so can godrick create a clone of himself. But since he’s such a pu- dishonorable fighter, he uses his clone to siege leyndell for him. the clone is then locked in the evergaol by kristoff, but the only thing that doesn’t add up is the clone continuing to exist after the death of godrick (it was tested that after killing morgott before margit, margit automatically dies) which the only plausible explanation for my theory being that the clone continues to exist due to being severed from both the erdtree and the real soul of godrick, only existing as a hollow husk that immediately engages in combat with anything that enters its evergaol
@Cangrix_
@Cangrix_ 26 күн бұрын
There’s really no lore connected to my take, more just speculation that I’ve come to conclusion with my own understanding of the story
@addiicted1770
@addiicted1770 26 күн бұрын
but if u kill lord of blood mohg the one under capital is still alive
@hiddenshadow2105
@hiddenshadow2105 26 күн бұрын
But Morgott's clone near Leyndell doesn't die AFAIK even if Morgott himself dies.
@MapleFried
@MapleFried Ай бұрын
That thumbnail is golden
@josephmcauley3305
@josephmcauley3305 Ай бұрын
Renna is NOT a pseudonym! It’s who the doll is modeled after! It’s the ice witch! Ranni was a REDHEAD
@josephmcauley3305
@josephmcauley3305 Ай бұрын
Disliked. Unsubbed. May god have mercy on your soul.
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