I decided it was time to dive into some invasions! This is my first experience with the invasions in Elden Ring! 🎮 TWITCH ➔ / chasethebroyt 📱 DISCORD ➔ / discord 🐦 TWITTER ➔ / chasethebr0 📸 INSTAGRAM➔ / chasethebro
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@ChaseTheBro2 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone! Once the network test is complete i plan to answer any questions you guys have regarding elden ring. I was debating doing a video or a live stream just for that reason alone, so id love if you leave any questions you have below!
@Duskwalker682 жыл бұрын
Do you think PVP will be fun for the majority of players? I absolutely hated having to gank spank in every single invasion in DS3, not a big fan of continuing the constant 3V1's unless it's balanced more in the Invader's favour this time around.
@Trance68842 жыл бұрын
The PVP looks so much smoother. Do you think this will be the new game most people will be on instead of ds3?
@ic43592 жыл бұрын
Do you think strength/melee builds will be at a disadvantage to magic builds in pvp
@darienmuse-charbonneau54402 жыл бұрын
Do you think there's potential for quirky/playful invasion builds so far?
@captainsin71262 жыл бұрын
How immersive is the world currently compared to previous souls games? And do you think all of the added weapon chains will make for much more engaging content whether it be pve or pvp? Since we’re going to have 6 chains instead of 2 combo wise. Thanks in advance.
@TheAero12212 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Chase is practicing this game right now. It wouldn't be a souls-like if I weren't ground stomped on day 1 by someone more experienced than me in PvP. At this rate I should be able to get the authentic experience on the release day.
@mr.budderpie35382 жыл бұрын
He speaks the truth
@KaptainKommissar2 жыл бұрын
thats why I always play Souls games offline
@capolean29022 жыл бұрын
@@KaptainKommissar its cool when people try to invade u adds more to the game
@Bee-cw9ho2 жыл бұрын
@@capolean2902 I'm honestly playing souls games only for the story, so I always play offline too because pvp is just an annoyance
@DrPlans2 жыл бұрын
@@Bee-cw9ho invasions are part of the lore though. but i understand if you just want to be left alone. its one thing to get killed by a monster in a post-apocalyptic world and another to get killed by bigdick69
@tersus49672 жыл бұрын
"Yooo what's up guys? ChaseTheBro here and welcome back to another Elden Ring video..." It feels surreal to realise that we are going to hear this phrase regularly very soon... Only 3 months left bois
@executioner_ecgbert8842 жыл бұрын
Much excite much excite
@TheAero12212 жыл бұрын
The hype is so real. I got into watching Chase videos only a little while ago, so much of my experience is with watching the old glory days of DS3. Its still a popular game nowadays, but not so much as it used to be. Ill actually get to be part of the community this time around!
@Darlanter2 жыл бұрын
it feels like a dream that's literally about to be reality, the amount of content he'll get out of this will be unlimited.
@championofkoss77432 жыл бұрын
Do you think he will do what he did with DS3? Like do all the pvp videos, livestreams and tips? I wonder if he will leave DS3? Chase is a legend and his PVP skills godly!
@Darlanter2 жыл бұрын
@@championofkoss7743 he'll probably start many gameplay series foccused on different kinds of builds, and based on the potential of the maps, the builds are gonna be a LOT, then there will be the PvP and let's be real, mods are gonna be a thing that he'll probably use for more content, long story short: potential content over 9000. Also he'll go back to Dark Souls from time to time, he did so with Demon Souls that that game older than dark souls.
@DrentifulGaming2 жыл бұрын
Dude the dragon landing in and attacking during the invasion was so sick. I looooove this so much the fact that there’s open world boss encounters that can happen during invasions. That’s just so hectic and epic.
@GudHunterYT962 жыл бұрын
Imagine if invaders naturally can attack and be attacked by enemies. A due turns to two enemies teaming up to tale out a boss then go back to dueling Sounds more epic
@Hates2 жыл бұрын
"Next invasion I'm gonna go in with the parry mindset" Finally.
@Michael-fj2ox2 жыл бұрын
>goes with the parry mindset >litteraly 0 parry attempts >doesn't evaluate further >ends network test in a middle of a battle and leaves God I love that guy
@ChaseTheBro2 жыл бұрын
Lmao to be fair the network test ended on me 🤣
@ash83292 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheBro It was one of those animu endings where both fighters end up in a stalemate due to the plot not wanting neither of them dying yet and are like "We SHALL finish this one day"
@RabeaMassaad2 жыл бұрын
This is soooo sick! I can’t wait to play this game. Looking forward to some or your new build vids and of course the crazy invasions hahaha.
@Sir.Alonne2 жыл бұрын
Small world, I did not expect to see you here. I love your music man.
@smudgy2642 жыл бұрын
Really like your guys funky studio jam :)
@zlol_ssbm2 жыл бұрын
Lmao dope
@davydoomz2 жыл бұрын
And Im looking forward to seeing you get your own Neural DSP plugin!
@Jason-uf9lm2 жыл бұрын
No clue the fro himself was a souls fan!! Small world indeed.
@krieg9382 жыл бұрын
The miracle not working in water is perfect, i hope there's more environmental interactions with spells etc and it really doesn't need to be "fixed" imo Like imagine you're being destroyed by fire spells so you retreat to a water-logged area, that's awesome
@YeerVahlen2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, just needs to make sense tho, a miracle (Is beast claw a miracle?) should work in water technically, whereas a fire ground spell like black serpent from ds3 should get stopped by water, but yeah, it would make dealing with enemies easier if you could retreat to a safer area
@kaizoku85752 жыл бұрын
@@YeerVahlen it's like lightning, makes no sense for it to work in water
@YeerVahlen2 жыл бұрын
@@kaizoku8575 if it really works like lightning or electricity then it would work better in water, like it does in ds2 (I'm not sure if it does the same thing in ds3 or 1)
@mitchelltower62322 жыл бұрын
@@kaizoku8575 lightning would work better in water no? if anything maybe the caster takes a little bit of damage from the cast or it gives the spells more or extra aoe effect
@gupiwa2 жыл бұрын
It's a horrible idea unless they have environments that stop all the other playstyles from working. Like foggy marshland where your bow doesn't work for some stupid reason and hilly grasslands where your sword doesn't work. Gotta make it equal so there's an up and downside to everything, not just miracles.
@superceilingfan97412 жыл бұрын
That last fight was like the metaphorical dreg heap, the universe was imploding as you dueled
@mrbobert63122 жыл бұрын
Man, that dragon breath attack is gonna be soooooo good for crowd control when you have multiple invaders after you. I can just tell that Fromsoft wants this to be a pvp playground for 10 year plus.
@AA-el1et2 жыл бұрын
The gotta lick their palms if they want this to be a 10+yr of playground with active community. U could say that for the first game since it was revolutionary but this one wouldn't do it imo.
@PTHYTQV2 жыл бұрын
@@AA-el1et well, ds2 pvp is still pretty active right now, and ds3 is positively crowded. And those are 7 and 5 years old already.
@CaveDDECanem2 жыл бұрын
@@PTHYTQV takes like 1 minute to pvp on ds1 or even coop So id say its still thriving as well
@arox61662 жыл бұрын
@@PTHYTQV bloodborne is Also pretty active
@PTHYTQV2 жыл бұрын
@@arox6166 I think the only dead one is original Demon Souls.
@Yeebles342 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does it seem invaders are at a huge disadvantage in this game?
@PTHYTQV2 жыл бұрын
Well, it was openly stated that From soft believes that invaders should not win the invasions, and be just one more obstacle for a player
@thesupreme80622 жыл бұрын
@@PTHYTQV that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard why would they even put in the game at all?
@doctorbrydin72942 жыл бұрын
@@thesupreme8062 cause the idea of invasions was for an obstacle to meet the player, Maybe an AI was the initial idea, but essentially a roadblock Think of this in game… You are traveling, Possibly with a companion, When suddenly a person with a violent red aura appears before you, He wont let you face your next boss. He needs to die. As Miyazaki said, You are invading HIS world, So naturally you are an enemy he has to overcome. If you want Pvp go to undead matchmaking, Blame invaders for twinking and bullying low soul level players. This probably would never have happened.
@thesupreme80622 жыл бұрын
@@doctorbrydin7294 i dont give a shit what the idea was, its stupid no one would invade if it was a sure loss, its stupid game design
@doctorbrydin72942 жыл бұрын
@@thesupreme8062 it isnt a guaranteed loss though? For example Vaati confirmed Boss invasions are back, Think about you fighting side by side with Gael against the enemy Ashen One. That is probably an easy win. Also this video is surefire proof as invaders can win. Also, There will always be Invaders lol. I plan on Invading day one to dick around and have fun. Once again, If you want real PvP go to Undead Matchmaking, Otherwise just try to have some fun and get some kills. Reminder that there is most likely going to be a red faction to help invaders so they wont totally get screwed. What has more backlash? Invaders getting nerfed? Or getting removed completely?
@AeroTipz2 жыл бұрын
Elden Ring Play test: "Invasions are going to be so long" Elden Ring Release: "Everything is op and broken"
@Jackson-en2qx2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@jakubchalupa85102 жыл бұрын
Fighting as an invader seems to discourage direct engagement, it could be more stalking or ambushing oriented since you have the option of just peacing out and coming back later. That could be super obnoxious though, imagine the invader just stalks you as you progress through an area, waiting to hit you with lightning or a bow whenever you start fight enemies. Also 3v1 seems to be somewhat the standard - imagine 3 people just spamming thunderbolt at you. Ain't no way you are surviving that. Just two and you are screwed.
@Nobody-yj8yq2 жыл бұрын
Dark souls 2 allows for shenanigans where you can stalk people through a level in some places. And my god is it funny 😆 one of the few things i liked of the game
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx2 жыл бұрын
Becoming an invader is becoming a stealth assassin. You have to kill the host immediately as fast as possible so that you won't have to deal with their phantoms.
@ANTHRAD2 жыл бұрын
Invaders used to be the hunter, now it feels like they are the prey and that doesn't make any sense to me.
@Donky_Kongs_Baby2 жыл бұрын
Well acording to from invaders are suppose to be "advance" mobs your not ment to win lol. That was the vision. Hence why I assume arena exist.
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx2 жыл бұрын
@@Donky_Kongs_Baby We should really place a respect to those who take up on the role of an Invader.
@lorenzo82082 жыл бұрын
"blues, blues never change...."
@clognog80492 жыл бұрын
yup
@daethmer78342 жыл бұрын
It looks so hard for the invader, 90% of the time its 1vs2 or even 3, and now also mobs can kill you
@evenaarek10422 жыл бұрын
to be fair, big crabs could always hurt you
@Omega772322 жыл бұрын
Field bosses will be a thing in elden ring so it's just lure them from any big boss there and it will ease the invaders pain (even by a bit). Edit: 5:08 this is the example of what I meant.
@daethmer78342 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know Boys but still, add to this lowered healing and its super hard, im not even invading that mutch but enjoyed invasions whenever I played solo, and now I need to play in coop to get invaded
@TerminusCOBHC2 жыл бұрын
I think the trick with the current build is to make ample use of the red fingers and lean hard on attrition. Basically like DS3, but even more passive.
@Ynox543212 жыл бұрын
It should be imo, the host should be able to overcome the invader, even if the invader is a skilled PvPer and the host a noob.
@cincinnatus97612 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the videos where invaders hide in the environment with their great bows. Really excited to see how the pvp for this game evolves over time.
@realtoni4202 жыл бұрын
yeah, it evolved into absolute garbage
@chloekyria2 жыл бұрын
I definitely hope they make it 1-5 or even 1-6 players instead for multilayer, and have at least two slots allocated for invaders. More so just because coop invasions are just so fun, and I don't want the game to suffer from it not being a thing.
@TheArcticWonder2 жыл бұрын
Yesss those full lobbies get so chaotic and fun.
@MightyGuts74232 жыл бұрын
For real. 8 would be incredible.
@activeentropy2 жыл бұрын
I really like that they changed the overall damage output of weapons in pvp making it last longer.
@BasedChadman2 жыл бұрын
Might just be a symptom of the limitations (+3 weapons and rune lvl 30), but I hope it's the case because it will make armor matter more, and longer fights are more fun
@blake-peace2 жыл бұрын
I think they made combos less intense, so it's easier to get away after getting hit once
@evanrio5562 жыл бұрын
Yo exactly, on ds3 with me and the boys were having fights with broken weapons to feel that. Can't be more exited ! (RIP Backstabs tho)
@thegk-verse42162 жыл бұрын
@@blake-peace Except when hit by 2 or more people lol
@KiboMH2 жыл бұрын
Also making almost impossible beating ganks
@harentbarter7056 Жыл бұрын
I think its interesting how the weapon meta changes over time, usually people are using the same ashes of war or shields but little did they know there were more effective weapons in game
@Darkwater18862 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see some real heavy strength pvp. I hope that having poise back with strength effecting equip load will beak up the Dex meta.
@StoicScape2192 жыл бұрын
The game looks amazing but pvp has me worried. Minimal backstabs/guard breaks means reduced crit potential which are valuable in gank spanks. The less overall damage I see people taking is great for duels but invasions were 3v1 exists? It’s easier to just isolate the host and melt him vs ticking him until his friends arrive to stop you. And we don’t know how easy it is for a host to summon again. You could spend 20 minutes to finally get a kill with these low damage numbers just to start all over again because the host can press A to summon once. Oh, and will regen builds be a thing? Healing miracles etc? That’ll prolong fights further
@nickkenny27382 жыл бұрын
I agree with you completely. It might be even worse because the game’s open world with less AI and environment to take advantage of when invading( unless you’re in a dungeon)
@jaybabe77672 жыл бұрын
this is low level and i am sure there will be some sort of balance for invasions since it will always be gank squads now. Maybe more damage idk
@Lil.Grandpa2 жыл бұрын
Anything above a 2v1 is like pulling teeth. They absolutely should allow invasions for one person, otherwise where's the sense of danger when going it alone as well?
@ChaseTheBro2 жыл бұрын
Yes i personally think the true combo system is superior. Landing 1 hit at a time against a 3 man team is very difficult. On top of backstabs having terrible grabs to the point that they are basically useless. Overall it is a great game and i had a blast, but they need to rethink those mechanics and fix glitches. Thats basically my stance on the pvp so far.
@yotsuyu95242 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheBro Looking at forums, reddit, 4chan etc, people say that Yasuhiro Kitao said that they will focus on PVP balance the first month after the release of the game. Things might also look much better once people are able to make complete builds. I don't think this test build is an indicator of what PVP will look like in game, but we'll see.
@donjohn42062 жыл бұрын
If you invade someone in Fringefolk Hero's Grave, you can go out of bounds and guess what I found, good old mate poison swamp.
@bibleblk2 жыл бұрын
Chase already bringing despair to curious adventurers lol
@JHaNocri2 жыл бұрын
DS3 PvP is back, you just keep running away from opponents, then turn around and hit them a couple of time. Amazing
@Andre-ee6gc2 жыл бұрын
That's depressing, i was hoping to see an innovation on pvp mechanics but it looks like there's less actually... Like fo example, there's no two hit mechanic and not true combos, i was really hoping from some mechanic addition idk maybe something closer to For Honor but not For Honor
@stinkfinga49182 жыл бұрын
Once again ds2 lookin like the best pvp they could manage...
@Trilasent2 жыл бұрын
14:18 Chase singing "Secret Tunnel" made my day!
@jojoriggs78012 жыл бұрын
The Madara Uchiha of ds3 has entered elden ring
@tribuneofmercy61842 жыл бұрын
The invasions appear to heavily favor the ganks from what I've seen so far. I wonder if this is just because there are relatively few weapons in this early game area? Also, a gank with 3 people casting spells could demolish an invader.
@troglodyte82422 жыл бұрын
the pvp definitely needs rebalancing or we just don’t have that many ways to combat ganks in the cnt. maybe once the full game comes out we’ll know the optimal level and items for invasions
@naka33392 жыл бұрын
its like that because ppl are too tanky, cant progress weapon upgrade in the beta so ppl spec all in health.
@tribuneofmercy61842 жыл бұрын
@@naka3339 Good point.
@Lil.Grandpa2 жыл бұрын
It was like that in 3 as well. PvP in this game looks like dogshit.
@tribuneofmercy61842 жыл бұрын
@@troglodyte8242 I agree, and if things are skewed too much to favor one side, the other side might resort to exploiting glitches to balance things out, which would suck.
@KhangNguyen-um4rg2 жыл бұрын
Man, this guy seriously feels like a secret field boss that From put in to troll us
@TheAero12212 жыл бұрын
Hardest boss in the game. The only reward is the feeling of having achieved the impossible.
@soupbro27862 жыл бұрын
Seeing chase now intemplating jump attacks/weapon arts and Elden Rings Guard breaks is like watching a shonen character gaining a new move. Exciting.
@dangerdonkey43832 жыл бұрын
It's been clear to me playing the Network Test, that Str and Int/Faith build will be very strong in Elden Ring. I'm super excited for this game!
@captainsin71262 жыл бұрын
You’ve been grinding dark souls for so long my friend, Elden Ring will be your rise to 1m+ subscribers and plenty of souls. 😁 much love
@G8B102 жыл бұрын
The jumping really add to PvP to make it stand out compared to dark souls among other additions
@MyRedXephos2 жыл бұрын
Just needs to be more punishable when spammed
@G8B102 жыл бұрын
@@MyRedXephos like for example getting hit in mid air cause more damage and knock you out?
@C_The_Guy2 жыл бұрын
5:16 “yes cook the blue! cook the blue!” 🤣 blue was very well done
@facilis2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit! Invading looks so hard in ER. If Chase gets spanked so much, casuls like me dosen't stand a chance.
@cerberus84622 жыл бұрын
or hes just new to the game like everyone else
@DreamskyDance2 жыл бұрын
heh...i think people will adapt. Have in mind they are low level and low weapon upgrades in the test. I am also not super good in DS3 pvp but i manage to get kills now and then when invading groups... try invading after Pontif Sullyvan in Irithyll ... a lot invasions there and aldrich guys so you will often fight against multiple people and that would be a good practice for Elden RIng :D
@thegk-verse42162 жыл бұрын
@@cerberus8462 The host side is new as well and they still heavily dominate, being new is a non-issue
@ACSMEX2 жыл бұрын
You as an invader: constantly fighting against greater odds. You will die a lot but will keep improving the way you fight. Pure PvE player: They have numbers, but the amount of times they are exposed to fighting against some other player is limited, so they are usually not as good as you. That imbalance is what will keep invasions being fun. Just dont have the mindset that invasion (you willingly getting into an unwilling player´s world) should be fair to the invader and you will do fine, eventually. Then you will invade Chase, Prod and Lost playing together LMAO. That´s life.
@hjhjkhfkfkd2 жыл бұрын
@@thegk-verse4216 People have to be skilled before it can be rewarded. No one knows the mechanics in depth so obvious advantages (numbers on the host team) just win the game. Just wait they'll be ways to beat them, this happens everytime, the previous community doesn't want to adapt, but someone will.
@sumitrana48132 жыл бұрын
14:09 That whole elevator moment was so fun, secret tunnel song and parkour is back!
@Sir.Alonne2 жыл бұрын
In one of his previous elden ring videos I thought secret tunnel just before he said it lmao.
@thereprehensible4352 жыл бұрын
To be fair, all of yur weapons here aren't fully upgraded and they're not scaling as well as they could. Damage-dealing will likely rise a bit faster as you progress in comparison to raw HP.
@stevenzimmerman79702 жыл бұрын
I think it's a pretty cool dynamic it not working in water.. especially if lore based, the spells affinity repels water or something along those lines so you're always forced to draw the enemy out of water
@lucrumix8792 жыл бұрын
Its also a cool and subtle way of using the open world environment to create beneficial circumstances for yourself during an invasion.
@doctorbrydin72942 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if not for sorceries still being spammed at you and thats your only ranged way of perhaps halting him
@zinbd2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Chase! You probably already know that most (if not all of) ds3 glitches made it into elden ring. The people who rediscovered them are reporting this information to Froms. I think fixing of the glitches will be more guaranteed if as big channel as you also tests and reports them.
@RexDeorumYT2 жыл бұрын
They've known about so many bugs and glitches that made it through all 3 souls game, that never got patched. Moveswaps for example have been around since DS1, and have never been patched or fixed in a new development cycle. Even the Demon's Souls remake had 1:1 mirrored mechanics, down to minute bugs like attacks dealing exactly 1 less damage if you locked on to a target in the middle of the attack's animation.
@ChaseTheBro2 жыл бұрын
I am hoping they patch them as well. Once the full release of the game is here i will try my best to use them and bring awareness to them so the devs patch it.
@AA-el1et2 жыл бұрын
@@ChaseTheBro if I ve learned anything from you the best way to bring awareness to an unfair feature in a souls game is to abuse it.
@xDRAGONSHAGGERx2 жыл бұрын
@@AA-el1et I read hackers can brick your pc with direct code injection as well as get you banned from the servers by putting items in your inventory, f that
@AA-el1et2 жыл бұрын
@@xDRAGONSHAGGERx how in the hell nobody came up with a solution to that yet? All these coders doing mods for the souls game but when we need them with stuff like this they dont show up. Devs aren't doing anything either and god knows what are they fucking working on if they aren't trying to do something about this.
@itsukarine2 жыл бұрын
Something I've noticed is with these new magics and WAs kinda built into everyones playstyle, the average pvp "range" went from meleeing distance to like, homing soulmass distances. The added scale of fights is kind of a neat change. I just hope like others say they make 1v1 situations opt out rather than opt in; I like the risk of a low chance of invasion when out alone rather than nothing
@drnobody19082 жыл бұрын
That last guy was trying to use a Dark Souls 3 backstab script and failed so hard XD. This brings me joy.
@PierreLucSex2 жыл бұрын
My boi is formidable. Very funny battles, the elevator one lmao... The last one had some serious dodging skills !
@SonnyJim1732 жыл бұрын
It won't be such a war when everybody is at plus 10 with best rings and spells you will still get melted.. I can't wait i need it bad
@georgethomas45672 жыл бұрын
I think invasions are going to be better in the main game considering there's very limited resources in this beta. Very limited healing, and you can only upgrade to +3
@QwertyBoredom1222 жыл бұрын
Yeh that +3 limit really causes the fights to drage out, not only because you can't really do much damage but also because theres no real reason to level anything but HP and Stamina in the network test.
@stevenmcsteven66932 жыл бұрын
Fuck the healing in PVP. None should be allowed.
@Mare_Man2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenmcsteven6693 sweat is for the arena.
@are32872 жыл бұрын
10:38 OMG! So getting hit after guard broken wont cancel the guard break animation! I love this
@jspr12722 жыл бұрын
Chase the new guard break options are jumping lights, jumping heavies, and standard heavy attacks. They do massive posture damage.
@RexDeorumYT2 жыл бұрын
A throwback to the old chase intro, how nice
@skelettman2 жыл бұрын
invaders really need to have all of their flasks. i'm all for invaders being at a disadvantage, but it's just ridiculous in elden ring.
@sukmanutzak95472 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that this is just a network test, try not to judge it too harshly. This might not even be how the final build will play... Plus not everything is available at the moment.
@thesupreme80622 жыл бұрын
@@sukmanutzak9547 for now invading looks dogshit for anyone who isn't super skilled
@sukmanutzak95472 жыл бұрын
@@thesupreme8062 so you are upset that you can't cheese your way through pvp and you have to git gud.... It's player vs player... It's suppose to have a skill gap bro. That's what separates it from casual play... I don't see what the issue is here. Sounds like you just want to be negative about it so you can seem like the cool guy shitting on stuff others enjoy. Kinda sad mentality tbh
@vincentmarshall27082 жыл бұрын
@@sukmanutzak9547 it's a fromsoft game, there will absolutely be cheesy pvp builds. But with no true combos, casters being incredibly strong, and ONLY invading ganks... cheese builds and twinks are going to become far more common. Imagine every pvp fight in ds3 being against someone using the sellswords with dmb. I'd want to claw my eyeballs out. That's what itll be like unless they adjust accordingly.
@ikillstupidcomments2 жыл бұрын
@@sukmanutzak9547 Invaders are already at a 3v1 disadvantage, how the fuck is having the same access to healing as the host "cheesing"? casul
@TheRaspberryFlavored2 жыл бұрын
I have a theory: The removed efficacy of reliance on backstabs and guard breaks combined with the inability to invade solo players is the devs' way of encouraging group fights. In other words, they made 1v1s impossible, and they made 1v2s and 1v3s much more difficult all in order to encourage invaders to invade alongside friends, resulting in team fights and hopefully building a larger and more cohesive PvP community. I can see it now: Elden Ring 3v3 tournaments and money matches, clan-seeking sections on forums, discord servers dedicated to team battles. I'm excited.
@VizualBandit2 жыл бұрын
That's quite the vision
@vitrums2 жыл бұрын
Can I just point out that we appreciate your channel and what you do a lot? Sick stuff, bruh!
@CallMeElwis942 жыл бұрын
4:10 Reminds me of Red-iron Twinblade, from DS2. Should be fun using this weapon. ...won't be as much fun getting parried when using it tho.
@baron39042 жыл бұрын
As a Red-Iron Winblade enthusiast, I am very happy with the looks of it
@jdirksen2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the fact you can powerstance it…
@YekkityYek2 жыл бұрын
Hey Chase, from I've seen of JeeNiNe's stream, the Determination weapon art deals a lot of stamina damage even compared to the sword uppercuts. A heavier weapon like Lance with this weapon art can instabreak most shields.
@jebthepleb492 Жыл бұрын
Man, looking back on the playtest is wild seeing all these late game items casually in use at Limgrave
@tonidi9842 жыл бұрын
the weapons menu is now a popup window 🤩 so you can choose the best weapon for every situation without stress and still dodge in combat
@prawn17172 жыл бұрын
I love most of what I've seen from ER's pvp, 1v1's especially look fucking fantastic. But I can definitely see issues arising, and I hope they change the opt-in invasion system to an opt-out one, to make 1 on 1 fights more common and keep that feeling of surprise for new players. The finger teleport looks super dope, though I'm not sure how to feel about enemies being able to hit you. It makes running through a crowd of them look less dumb, but invaders probably have enough on their hands as is. We'll have to see in the full game though. The damage in the test is probably just a result of Vigor being by far the most worthwhile trait to upgrade, I'm sure with +10 weapons and optimized builds we'll be able to blend just as effectively as in DS3, minus true combos.
@brunch.2 жыл бұрын
Opt out and opt in are essentially the same system, with the sole difference being that for opt out new or unaware players will experience a seemingly random and rather bad feeling death. Then they likely go opt out… not a good idea to ambush new players with a potentially bad experience.
@ANTHRAD2 жыл бұрын
@@brunch. Aren't random and bad feeling deaths a big feature of the series? Now, i think that getting invaded at the first zones would be a little bit too much, BUT, i think that if From wants pvp to be healthy and have NEW invaders trying it out and having fun, there should be mid/endgame zones where you could be invaded while solo.
@brunch.2 жыл бұрын
@@ANTHRAD random and bad feeling deaths to NPCs is one thing. Thats expected. Someone who is unaware of invasions doesnt expect them. Its not a good surprise, its something that could have been completely avoided, if they wished, by checking off a single setting, so its not a part of the core experience for the game.
@limesoda39982 жыл бұрын
It's finally here, Elden Ring PVP!
@jayjayjigsbys2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe the day has come when I get to see Chasethebro do some Elden Ring invasions. I remember tuning into the game awards (or something) last winter, being disappointed that there was no ER trailer. Now, boys... here we are.
@thedeergodant52892 жыл бұрын
Separation is the best tactic in every souls like game with pvp it’s was really funny to watch you go back and forth with the elevator
@KingThor1282 жыл бұрын
The lack of a 2 hit mechanic is definitely exciting to me, feels like fast weapons wont quite break the back of the game like they do in DS3.
@Andre-ee6gc2 жыл бұрын
I think that this kill the fun of the game, i mean 2 hit mechanic was the closest we had to a true combo aside from WA, From should consider adding two hit mechanic again or at least onto some weapon classes, it makes more sense a fast weapon 2 hit mechanic than a slow weapon two hit imo.
@KingThor1282 жыл бұрын
@@Andre-ee6gc given passive poise only large weapons should stagger long enough to hit again. The 2 hit combo made fast weapons dominate
@Andre-ee6gc2 жыл бұрын
@@KingThor128 that would render fast weapons useless, who would use fast weapons with low hit damage and one hit confirmation when you can two hit confirm huge damage numbers with slow weapons? Sure you can poke with fast weapons but one mistake against big weapons and you're gone
@KingThor1282 жыл бұрын
@@Andre-ee6gc why should hitting with fast weapons be rewarded more than hitting with slow weapons when its easier to hit eith a fast weapon by default
@Andre-ee6gc2 жыл бұрын
@@KingThor128 A: you have dodge B: heavy weapons have much more range and damage in two hits and have hyperarmor. Wasnt DS3 a good example enough? Heavy weapons worked wonders aswell as fast weapons.
@lagideath2 жыл бұрын
I was really looking forward to your thoughts on the PvP system. At first I was really happy about the lack of true combos because I was dreading the return of something like Splitleaf but at least to me it really feels terrible without them after seeing a ton of PvP videos. I'm really not sure how a non-professional invader has any chance against groups unless there is a roaming boss or a group of non-trash mobs nearby. Will you be doing a video discussing your thoughts on the changes they've done to PvP?
@Silver_MCG2 жыл бұрын
I feel ya also there is alot of in jumping and with passive poise it seems people will end up relying on jumping heavy attacks with heavy armor and giant weapons. Jumping is not punishable enough also if in 1v1 it's one hit then get out small weapons will be shit on since poise and trades will be 1 hit based so small dex weapons wont be as benificial
@user-tw1pm6nr5e2 жыл бұрын
@@Silver_MCG I also heard that even normal shields are really strong and have high stability.
@aNsWeRkEy022 жыл бұрын
Hopefully they do some adjustments after this network test..game will be out by February so they still have time to balance these things
@mroldgreg2 жыл бұрын
...Invaders were never suppose to have an advantage and were ment to be a nuisance more than anything, not a constant grief/gank fest like it is in 3. Creator of the games even says this. Changes were needed, but won't be enough to stop the cancer that is twinking like in DS3 after this game is out a bit. But at least they are heading in the right direction. Can't handle not being at a disadvantage and need hand held to win invasions? Need 3x the amount of flask a host does that fullheal you? Need consumables the host doesn't even know exist yet? Then don't invade. Lot of changes are to stop the cancer that is ganking, twinking, grieving (dont forget straight up hacking too lol) that happens in DS3.
@bazah23 Жыл бұрын
Wow so this was bros first Elden ring invasions And it’s so nice seeing how much the game changed
@atarijunge2 жыл бұрын
Twinblade is my favorite weapon as an Enchanted Knight! Loved to experiment with different ashes on it. I'm now even more excited after the network test!
@ash83292 жыл бұрын
Gotta say the no combo part about the PvP is kinda weird for me. I think thats something that made ds3 more grounded, it made it more fair for the invaders, as having a guaranteed 2nd hit really makes a difference. This new PvP style seems more chaotic yet more calculated at the same time.......i dont know what to think of it xD. Also i really do hope they fix the backstabs, ive watched a bunch of PvP vids, and the move is basically nonexistent lol
@Zemphyrrian2 жыл бұрын
You're joking, right? 2-hit combos are devastating for invaders, because often they fight 1v2 or 1v3. In 1v1 after a first hit you have a guaranteed second, but in the invasions you dont, because you have no time to do the second attack before other player hits you and interrupts your combo, if you don't have the hyperarmor weapon (if you do you still take a damage, so that's a trade)
@ash83292 жыл бұрын
@@Zemphyrrian how experienced are you with ds3 pvp? The thing is when you are an invader going 1vs3, you will always, regardless. have to position yourself correctly so that you land a hit and not get hit yourself. So, you will have and advantage as an invader if you are given the chance to perform a combo on 1 or more of them. Think about it, whether combos exist or not, you can always get blendered by a group of people (and ive seen so quite a few times in elden ring), however having combos gives invaders the opertunity to strike once more, if they are able to of course, which they often are, and especially if the gank gets separated you are able to dispatch one of them quicker. Although i would understand why you would think the oposite
@ash83292 жыл бұрын
@@Zemphyrrian also Chase seems to agree with me "Yes i personally think the true combo system is superior. Landing 1 hit at a time against a 3 man team is very difficult. On top of backstabs having terrible grabs to the point that they are basically useless"
@Zemphyrrian2 жыл бұрын
@@ash8329 The gankers AND the invader both have a possibility to strike twice. But the invader will manage to land the second hit ONLY if no other enemy is about to interrupt him. Which is not happening, unless there's an insane setup like some greathammer WA in a tight corridor. And if any player from the gank squad hits the invader, he gets a second hit GUARANTEED. That's the difference. The invader has monsters on his side, but sadly monsters attacks have very poor stunning capability that is unlikely to give a two-hit combo to him.
@Zemphyrrian2 жыл бұрын
@@ash8329 I like the idea of backstabs being very limited. Judging from some ER footage, some weapons or attacks do have the 2-hit-combo. Like katanas.
@averylaible63122 жыл бұрын
That armor set looks absolutely stunning! Now I'm hyped to get a PS5 and Elden Ring! Cheers Chase!
@AltF-io3dy2 жыл бұрын
It’s gonna be on ps4 too ya know
@averylaible63122 жыл бұрын
@@AltF-io3dy But upgrades people, upgrades!
@AltF-io3dy2 жыл бұрын
@@averylaible6312 how do you plan to get one though I did think there were any in stock!
@Muriboi2 жыл бұрын
Just subscribe to a Twitter ps5 bot. It’s not that hard to get one for the regular price anymore
@AltF-io3dy2 жыл бұрын
@@Muriboi Twitter ps5 bot?
@xedystruik97802 жыл бұрын
U had my laughing when the dragon scared u XD keep up the good work chase!
@fvnk02 жыл бұрын
i didnt think id see elden ring vids for another year or two, this is a nice suprise
@afungai16492 жыл бұрын
Yeah if every invasion is gonna end up being an unbalanced gank fest then I am definitely staying away from the multiplayer in this game.
@theblackbaron41192 жыл бұрын
Well chasing down some invading coward that only runs away isn't going to be fun ether most of the time you just want to co op with your friends and someone invades that thinks you're interested in chasing him when in fact you couldn't care less about him.
@Johtho2 жыл бұрын
@@theblackbaron4119 kiting 3 human minds and dodging all of their attacks while exploiting the few oppurtunities they give you to strike isnt really running away..it's doing what you got to do to win. i dont understand the victim mindset alot of people seem to have, but i do understand that you clearly dont want to pvp at all. Sorry to hear that but i think you are probably the minority. I do understand what your saying and i feel for you, maybe if they made a feature where one could simply opt out of dark phantoms in the main menu. like for example have the option to choose from 4 players or 6 player lobbies and the other 2 players being invader slots, that sounds like it would satisfy us both, idk what the solution is im not a dev but i dont just think i should get fcked just for you to be satisfied.
@max63259742 жыл бұрын
@@theblackbaron4119 You sound like the type of guy who got shit on by invaders because you were dumb enough to chase them to the PVE .. lmao.. Casual R1 fallen knight lothric knight straight sword vibes ..
@SuperiorFirepower2 жыл бұрын
If I saw chases character invade my world I would just task manager quit the game. Im not dealing with a rolly polly and chasing someone for 10 mins
@executioner_ecgbert8842 жыл бұрын
Unless youre ganking, hed be chasing you. Sometimes, even ganks run away from him
@ers-tj4to11 ай бұрын
Chase makes pvp look so easy and effortless. Whenever I get summoned into a pvp duel I’m down in two seconds lol.
@PimpDaddyFresh2 жыл бұрын
I am hype for all of the new viewers you are going to get as well with this release, on top of seeing you clap these kids lol. Much love chase
@alexanderc34672 жыл бұрын
can't waiiiit to jump into this and lose my life as i always do when a new souls game comes out. all the theory crafting, trying out new things, gettin rekt and awed by current meta's, trying to keep up with everyone and everything is going to be so much fun
@BlueShellshock2 жыл бұрын
So, from what we've seen so far... -No more guaranteed 2-hits. Once you score one hit, your enemy can raise their shield before the second hit. -Blocking is more relevant; blocking even without a shield mitigates much more damage, but you still get guard broken within 2-3 hits. -Running attacks have a longer warm up time, and backstabs are difficult. -Some passive poise exists, including while drinking an 'Estus' -Rolling is still a catch-all against some spells, but certain ones like the Dragon's Breath have to be avoided through other methods.
@chubbysolaireeaterofpussy31922 жыл бұрын
Johny, Johny, Yes papa? Eating sugar? No papa. Telling lies? No papa. Open your mouth 9:48
@schmoke.2 жыл бұрын
Have a feeling magic is gonna be crazy once all spells are out, especially after seeing that boss like dragon attack.
@cadriver25702 жыл бұрын
This game looks amazing, but the invasions seem a bit grindey right now.
@dragondaddykushala71332 жыл бұрын
I love that a good long invasion keeps me entertained I hate when they're quick one shots the thrill of the hunt and a that
@JoakimFigge2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i really don't like what im seeing in terms of invasion, might have to go back to my old shenanigans of hiding from the invader and just waste their time for hours on end, or pull the plug, always fun reading rage threads whenever i did people dirty like that! I prefer quick fights, blades clashing, 30-60 second fights at most
@sirgideonofnirtheall-knowi18812 жыл бұрын
@@JoakimFigge >pull the plug May none but the worst agonies in hell await you.
@JoakimFigge2 жыл бұрын
@@sirgideonofnirtheall-knowi1881 😈
@Turdsmear2 жыл бұрын
@@JoakimFigge you cant hide they can literally see you on the compass in real time
@Prophetian2 жыл бұрын
Finally, no free backstabs. Maybe crits / parries are the new thing now.
@NUCLEARxREDACTED2 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting a long time to for this Finally get to watch chase PvP in Elden Ring
@Nova-oc2ry2 жыл бұрын
Seeing shields finally working somewhat properly, and magic seeming more viable, the pvp in this game already looks much better than in all the other from games
@zhouyongkang53312 жыл бұрын
Yea, I just wish backstabs were the same as the backstabs in DS3. If not, then slightly harder to get off, but not next to impossible as they seemingly are here in the beta.
@Natman8172 жыл бұрын
“That’s mega annoying with the shield” Spends upwards of 6 minutes back-pedalling in an open world invasion.
@HumanInstrumentalityProject2 жыл бұрын
After dumping the last few hours into nothing but PvP I’ve come to a few ideas to make invasions more balanced. As a whole there needs to be a 3v2 or a 3v3 allowed in the open world. I’ll lean towards the 3v2 since it looks like a lot of people cry about invasions being a thing still, so this is a fair balance though 3v3 would be absolutely amazing and would make for great fight clubs. And to be honest, it’s a missed opportunity in an open world game. But if they keep it to favor the host then invaders flasks should not be halved when entering the world. And to those that will say “uSe YoUr EnViRoNmEnT” I can counter that smart people won’t follow invaders so this is easily thrown out the window. And yeah we can try and hunt you down while fighting a mini boss but even then, we as invaders can still take the same amount of damage as a host does when encountering one so it’s a true 50/50 of it being worth it. True invaders should be normal color and should not be allowed to harm another true invader. That being said, red summons should be red when summoned and should be summoned where their sign was. True combos need to come back. The game is still very poke and run no matter what weapons you use and when going against 3 people, 2 of which spamming magic while the other bum rushes is overly annoying for any invader to try and get through and having something in our pocket to stagger and hyper armor through some of the stuff being thrown at you is fair for both sides. I think that once you use the finger that allows you to see summon signs should open you up for invasions. You’re already looking for the help, then we should already be looking for the fight. That being said, the tongue should be incentivized to use for invasions and should have an element that resembles the silver serpent ring in DS3, so that means, after killing an invader, you as a host that has cracked the tongue will now be rewarded with a hefty amount of runes. Last but not least I’d like to say one last thing that’s going to be overly controversial but to make things fair for everyone in the game, hosts, summons and invaders, a summoned person should not be more than 20 levels higher than the host with a weapon that goes no higher than +2 of what the host is using, even with passwords. It’s fairly easy to level up in this game and having high leveled summons going unchecked in areas of the game will absolutely destroy the longevity of pvp in this game. Again, invaders are already at a huge disadvantage in this game, more so than any others in the franchise and won’t this to flourish for years to come just like DS3. I know some squishies out there hate pvp but it is an aspect of the game that many people enjoy and it shouldn’t be swept under the rug just to make casuals more comfortable in their play time. I feel like everything I’ve listed is a fair request and could balance multiplayer as a whole.
@diego0329122 жыл бұрын
Personally I’d say we should make the one you said is controversial, for only invasions. Because the reason I feel so many people dislike invasions in general is because it’s not an option whether it’s on or not if you want to play Souls games online, so what you could do is make it that there is an invasion criteria basically so it’s not unfair. And I think this level margin has to change depending on the host’s level because if you’re level 20 even fighting a level 35 the level 35 will have a huge advantage no questions asked but a level 135 and 150 aren’t as unequal when it comes to raw power from stats, so yeah just something to keep in mind. I think it should never matter what level someone is when you summon them either to help you out or to fight them because well, you’re summoning them so you’re actually choosing to perform this action which is different that being invaded. Just thought I’d throw in my two cents.
@ANTHRAD2 жыл бұрын
I don't think people should be comfortable while playing a From game. I've always seen invaders as the hunter and hosts as the prey, and i think it should stay that way. Let us invade solo players, let them see a red phantom and start to panic, cuz thats Dark Souls!
@nathanbateman42552 жыл бұрын
The combo thing is one of the biggest ones. Players seem to have a lot more longevity in general in Elden Ring PVP, and that just necessarily puts things in favour of the host who has more estus and summons.
@cwl23372 жыл бұрын
"oh my god parkour!" that was really fun.
@Pharaohinthemaking2 жыл бұрын
you're gonna get to a million subs once the game fully releases
@pelimania27862 жыл бұрын
3 on 1 situations seem to be very common, which is a shame because they are the least interesting fights. Too easy for hosts and phantoms, too frustrating for invaders
@quentinb7342 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@thesupreme80622 жыл бұрын
3v1 will be all we get
@blakeuth12 жыл бұрын
What class is this bro sorry if it stupid question keep up the grate content!
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx2 жыл бұрын
Backstabs don't work on alerted enemies anymore. You have to break through their posture first before riposting.
@daitsy24762 жыл бұрын
The pvp in this one actually looks sick super fluid and way cooler moves
@ghostering82 жыл бұрын
Need more of this, spending your gank bonk legend chasd!!! also the damage really small....I guess we can upgrade it on next build.
@blacktrack87162 жыл бұрын
Bro I can’t wait for your channel to start growing again it’s been an honour
@Diavoila2 жыл бұрын
I love that you can switch between different weapon abilities like you don't even need any spells to have a ton of flexibility in a fight
@FrableRock2 жыл бұрын
Just came to like the video, I'm not watching it as I wanna go through completely blind.. but that armor and sword looks BADASS. I can't wait man.
@dimyell2 жыл бұрын
Really hoping we get some dark souls armor down the line, or at least close references.
@lucascalderon59222 жыл бұрын
I really need a sun armor for my mental health
@Unreal_Thiel2 жыл бұрын
Onion bro till the fucking end
@CAMCOH892 жыл бұрын
Moonlight Greatsword should be there.
@eldenctlhulhu72782 жыл бұрын
We have havel and onion kinda
@tasor11862 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the moonlight greatsword
@ty8112 жыл бұрын
Unless there comes a lot of rebalancing I feel like Chase is gonna spend a month or so on Elden Ring PvP, get bored, and just go back to Dark Souls 3 full time.
@itszaque50312 жыл бұрын
It’s possible but I’d be surprised. I think the majority of Souls players are going to use Elden Ring as the new main game, and with the full release there will be plenty more weapons and builds
@thesupreme80622 жыл бұрын
@@itszaque5031 it depends because I the beginning invading gangsta will be duable since we know little about the game but with all the restrictions invaders have and the new gameplay style once people know the game well invading ganks will be close to impossible. Backstabs true combos and parrys were the things that made gank spanks possible and with the backstab change and the tru Combo removal I don't see invading being fun at all
@itszaque50312 жыл бұрын
@@thesupreme8062 fair, I guess I’m curious to see if the removal of these leads to a new style of invasions or of invasions just won’t be common at all
@ty8112 жыл бұрын
@@itszaque5031 I rarely do pvp and go through souls games usually sword and board the first time. Its just an early look but the shield now seems almost OP. In previous souls game you were punished for hidding behind your shield.
@itszaque50312 жыл бұрын
@@ty811 yeah, each game had kind of a different take on shields. They’re really strong in ds1 but very weak in 3. I have done Shield + halberd runs in each game and while there are effective ways to use shields in every game, this new mechanic just gives them a better reason to be picked. My pvp guess is that people are going to run big weapons or power-stance medium weapons, with an offhand shield at all times, or their going to run magic
@CondaCorneri2 жыл бұрын
This is so tense! I'm like clenching my ass so hard it hurts. Awesome!
@MagnusRazer2 жыл бұрын
It is very cool that you can play the Elder ring beta, you are my reference when it comes to playing Dark Souls, I congratulate you for what you have achieved, greetings from Argentina :)
@BlackSheepDeity2 жыл бұрын
There are definitely some disappointments im seeing in the pvp, that may make DS3 reign supreme in the PVP area. Either or, we’ll be playing this, but clearly no stuns or true combos, little ways to punish, maybe a guard counter? But that seems too simple and boring for me. I did see u found the guard break punish is using that jumping attack. Anyways GG’s and looking forward to new strategies moving forward. But still really disappointed to what happened with fishing tactics. Time to explore the game more.
@rev3rend3532 жыл бұрын
Nah after playing it myself it’s the guard breaks and creative in what spells or weapon arts u use in the duels n such. I’ve won most of mine honestly off just using reduvia blade and the crucible great sword but what ppl don’t realize is the combat is more sekiro like when it comes to those details just with DS3 animations.
@Resjek2 жыл бұрын
@@rev3rend353 absolutely correct
@RJ-pb1qx2 жыл бұрын
Well, fromsoft said that PVP would be 'fundamentally different', and its definitely different. Seems a little slower too as far as swinging weapons like greatswords. I have a feeling people arent going to be leaving DS3 pvp as soon as they though either. Crits are a big thing in that game, and elden ring is, from a pvp point of view, more or less wars of attrition. This will take some getting used to.
@gitgud10182 жыл бұрын
Chase, this is really valuable footage. I gotta say, this looks INFURIATING. I would have been losing my shit during these invasions if I were you, way to stay strong! The things I notice are that since it's extremely open world setting, it looks really hard to play off the environment which is HUGE for invasions. I'm also worried about people just running for massive distances. Another thing is that the damage seems low and quite forgiving (except when at a numbers odd like you were saying). Only someone at your skill level could have survived that long in that cave invasion. That shit would have tilted me so hard. The game still looks great, but it looked like a complete struggle to pull these invasions off. The last fight was pretty epic, really wanted to see how it was going to end. I have a feeling there's going to be some jumping attack abuse too... But in the end, King Weeb always prevails.
@iamjakko9282 жыл бұрын
This game looks phenomenal this is the first I’m seeing of it and would love to get some nice jolly cooperation and fight clubs when the game drops
@RicardAB2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed 3 changes compared to ds3: too much stamina, poor melee damage and slower combat. But it's not true it has ds1 poise. Poise is the same lie 😂
@eldenctlhulhu72782 жыл бұрын
These are +3 weapons max. Combat isn't slower lol
@RicardAB2 жыл бұрын
@@eldenctlhulhu7278 I like combat. Not slow at all but slower than ds3. And +3 ds3 weapons do much more damage I think.
@eldenctlhulhu72782 жыл бұрын
@@RicardAB the streamers say that the armour matters here so must be it. In my experience +3 weapons take like 15 hits to kill a person with say 27 health
@smudgy2642 жыл бұрын
@@eldenctlhulhu7278 i've been playing the network test, the combat is slower and more deliberate than ds3. Animations have longer recovery times
@D4rKSUN12 жыл бұрын
6:00 no more Bum? that's sad
@Chrollo_Lucilfer2 жыл бұрын
This game is hyping me up so much, such a beautiful looking game and concept!!!!!! Can't come quicker ☺️