that is horrible news i hate when developers keep changing the game and then forcing you to stop playing the way you like

@@colorpg152 ...and it's a good thing they do or we all still be playing Pong. Not to mention that there are plenty developers make games they like to make and not just adding stock value for shareholders.

Elden ring promotes all the gameplay styles from the Souls series and bloodborne, this video was whack

@@colorpg152 They changed Elden Ring and forced you to stop playing it the way you like? Come again? There's virtually infinite games for you to play, including all the other soulsborne games. You can play those or move on to Elden Ring.

@@Dylan_Thomas1 excuse me? infinite games? NAME ME 1 SOULS-LIKE GAMES WHERE YOU CAN PLAY A PURE CASTER LIKE DS2? ONE GAME? the only souls-like rpgs where you can play a pure mage i know are the 4 soulsgames that fromsoftware made, you have infinite games with that reflex garbage, you should be the one to leave instead of destroying my niches for your stupid difficulty addiction

Yeah it's a game that forces you to not be brain dead

"I am so mad that I'm going to spend the next two hours learning every bit of this mother fuckers moveset so I can parry every bitch ass slash

Too bad not a lot of people have that problem solving skill so they decided to whine on the internet about how unfair the game is lmao

I wish everyone had the novelty of having 2 spare hours a day to waste learning singular enemy patterns but world isn't that kind

Playstyle is also a thing. You've specced into something that you find fun shouldn't the game design facilitate all playstyles?

For sure. Very few weapons have ever given much reason to use R2. The more decisions I have to make during combat the better.

Iirc i think you could do it in Bloodborne too if you landed a charged R2

It's not just the heavy charged ones, it's also Heavy Jump attacks and parries. To bosses like Margit, for example you need 2 parries to completely break the posture bar and be able to land a critical. This is a good thing because it opens much more options than previous titles to deal with foes. It is much more like Sekiro.

@@DrnMontemayor Does the posture bar fill up by stacking the heavy R2 poise damage along with the poise damage caused by parrying? So instead of two parries you could just do one and a few charged R2s? I didn’t test that out when I played but now I’m curious.

@@DrnMontemayor Good!!! I was really hoping this was the case especially when fighting bosses.

You're using " " wrong. You didn't "accidentally", you accidently did. It wasn't alleged or supposed.

​​@@thewaywardgrape3838who cares l0 ser

By far my favorite aspect of elden ring is the changes made to the poise system. Staggering enemies and bosses feels great and can be a potent strategy, and there’s so many tools to do it. Jumping attacks, R2’s, weapon skills, guard counters, even light attacks from the right weapons (great hammers, but paired hammers can get them fairly quick too.) Combining high poise damage attacks with weak, fast attacks that keep the meter from going down is my latest favorite. Played through with an Omen Cleaver with flaming strike, and somehow my favorite part of that run ended up being bone darts.

Don’t use rogier, he deals so little damage for the extra health that Margit gets

Well, even with using R2 attacks, I'm still not staggering him. I hit him six times and it didn't happen.

Gives and takes.

I'm running a heavy greatsword with lions claw it feels so great walking up to strong enemies, pancaking them, and then just beating on them till they die, staggering with every hit

That, and the absurd amounts of bleed and frost you can inflict that also do big stance damages.

@@benjaminthibieroz4155 I do a power stanced bleed attuned greatswords with cragwhatever weapon art and it absolutely melts

Blocking was never that bad. I wish they would of focused on making blocking with a weapon more viable. Much less turtle encouraging

Parrying is still very efficient in breaking posture in ER byw. In fact, I think it's the most efficient. Margit's gets broken in 2 parries.

@@Handsomeguy-kj2jg honestly I think blocking was often too good in the old games. A lot of people got locked into turtle strategies and couldn't handle more complex fights or enjoy the game. Of course a more dynamic blocking system like Sekiro's changes that a lot.

@@Handsomeguy-kj2jg Yeah I hope there’s something we can do to reduce block damage with weapons maybe with the medallions, its wishful thinking lol

Yeah, I wish they made it more like Sekiro where a correctly timed L1 could deflect an attack completely. Party timings in Souls always felt off to me and it would’ve made a lot of sense since a lot of these enemies in ER seem to have very long and rapid combos that are too quick to dodge through at close range. Turtling is no fun at all sadly…

That's an underrated comment. Each new From Software title is another rung built into the same developmental ladder. From graphics, to animation, to world-size and scope, to gameplay, and even to the deep overlapping lore itself; From Software has been delivering the ingredients of perfection by achieving each new plateau according to the limitations of the available hardware. Elden Ring isn't just their next game; it's the next rung of the ladder... I look forward to standing upon it, and discovering where it leads...

Really interesting comment, thanks for taking the time to write that out :)

This is an extremely insightful comment. I wish it were pinned for better visibility. As already expressed above, thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and observations.

I became more and more convinced of what you wrote the more i read.

Well when I was in Japan I noticed how late alot of the people worked. Some just slept at their desks. So it doesn't surprise me from soft is one of the only reputable developers left.

Margitt is a wall yes, it's a wall that teaches you that it's okay to not beat him right now and tells you to explore, get stronger and come back later until you can beat him.

There is no such thing as a waifu there, a bunch of autistic cunts and harlots.

He’s the first “skill check” if you can’t beat him you know you aren’t ready to progress yet.

@@unoriginalname9556or bang your head against the wall and git gud. Which I enjoy, you can beat him at a pretty low level if you memorize the pattern

My First wall was the tree sentinel. I did banged my head against the wall till It broke, over 50 atempts in a single day 💀

This is very much in line with what Hboomerguy talks about in his "bloodborne is genius" video with "play conditioning", the idea that a game subtly teaches you how to relate to its mechanics, which can either be done in bad ways (fallout 3 teaching you to ignore hacking) or good ones like bloodborne's encouragement of more offensive souls play. This seems to be an iteration of how From tries to teach players that certain mechanics are important.

Most good games reward you for using its mechanics in intended ways. In terraria for example, all cool loot is in the world so you are driven to explore, thus experiencing one of the game's strengths.

To a degree, but it looks like (From the CNT) they're making a major effort to give you several possible ways to approach a fight. For one thing, it's not a railroad story run any more. Sure, there were branches in Dark Souls III, but those usually just led to the doll you needed to get into Irithyll Valley (For example.) I'm not talking about "Balance" here (Fromsoft never cared about Balance, you wake up in a grave... Feel free to die in a ditch somewhere) I'm just talking about the flexibility to Guard-Counter, instead of Parrying. Dual Wield a Spell, and a Weapon Art (With a shield out) Hybrids. If you'll notice, most of the teaser classes are a hybrid of melee and magic, or at least come with Thunderbolt. I seriously doubt that Barbarian is going to start with Faith, and Dragon Breath, but I'm definitely picking up a "Try a hybrid" hint there.

kinda like how areas like Huntsman's Copse or Iron Keep will punish you for trying to sprint past them

*you are = you're .

it wasn't heavy attacks, it was doing enough damage to that body part in general. That's why I love the Threaded Cane, it can usually hit any part of a boss with a light attack in its whip form, letting me get easy viscerals. Plus once a limb is damaged, it will take way more damage.

DS3 if you get giants in the head or Aldrich. It has been in the game for awhile. You notice more on multiple runs. I am so stoked for Elden Ring because I started with Sekiro for Fromsoftware journey.

Exactly! Reminds me a hell lot of Bloodborne playstyle, just with shorter dodges and shields!

That's the Limb Break System and the Weak Point system, which was even present in DS1. BB uses the weak spot particularly in bosses like Amygdala and Ebrietas. Amy can also have their limbs broken by you. And her head remains vulnerable to bonus damage after the critical stagger. DS3 also had an inconsistent version of it that worked with a few bosses and mini bosses. ER's works like Sekiro's and DS3's combined. Because it is based on Posture, not damage type or weak spot. Although some enemies showed to also use the weak spot mechanic like the Giant Crabs and Land Octopus, and other larger enemies.

@@DrnMontemayor in DS1 it just increased damage or killed the body part, Bloodborne created much more dynamic push and pulls where they could have a variety of effects.

My thoughts exactly. Elden Ring doesn’t need defended on matters like this when we all know by many merits it’s a good or even great game. It can be a great game and still have worse combat than its predecessors, and deserve criticism for that.

Don't listen to 'gamer critics' is just what I say. You absolutely can dodge the attacks if you have a good reaction time and roll through the actual strike and not the wind-up, with exceptions like some of Morgott's attacks and Magma Wyrms' as well, there's some more that I don't remember. Heal input read attacks aren't common at all, not all bosses are Crucible Knights, or Malenia, and Godskin's black flame fire balls aren't fast at all, in fact they're a huge attack window. Edit: Elden Ring bosses > Bloodborne bosses.

This is exactly what I hate about this game. Honestly Elden Ring is only slightly better than DS2 and it’s because of the atrocious enemy design that you have perfectly described here.

I think the biggest issue with the stance breaking system is that you don't have a stance bar to see how effective you are at damaging it, because the way it's coded it's somehow unintuitive (for example if you're two handing weapons it barely matters despite the extra hits).

Education is never completed.

That is generally true, but you have to take into account combos. Very often bosses engage in a combo of movements with mixed attacks. FOr example 4 swift attacks, finishing with one or two heavy attacks. And if you haven't done enough posture damage before that, you can't parry the first hits. I mean you can, but the boss is gonna keep doing the flurry, so if you decide to guard counter after the second fast hit, his third fast hit will hit you before your guard counter does. Also about regular parry of attacks, it is worth mentioning that if you press the parry button a split second before you get hit, the game rewards you with very little endurance damage, as opposed to just holding the parry button waiting for the hit :) Much like in Sekiro. However unlike in Sekiro regular parry (not parry ash of war) but regular parry doesn't seem to damage posture bar as far as I can tell, although there is a chance of keeping it from regenerating

@@zyfryth That means you can block those fast initial hits, dodge the last heavy ones and either distance yourself to recover or go close to punish the large whiff from those heavy attacks. You can also get your guard blown by the last attack, but if the enemy's wad is already blown, they can't punish it and it doesn't matter. I'm also confused at what you mean by parrying here. If you parry a parryable hit, the combo gets interrupted and you get the same riposte punish immediately. You seem to use the word "parry" for blocking, guard countering and parrying at the same time, which make reading this a tad difficult.

@@qwormuli77 I see what you are saying, but in this case it is the same. Parry ash of war doesn't always brake enemy posture. It depends, how much was their posture bar damaged beforehand. In most cases parry will just negate damage, but if their posture bar was low it will brake it. It always brakes posture for trash mobs though. Now I am not 100% sure if you ash of war parry with perfect timing, will that brake the posture of the boss no matter what, or will it count as regular block on tougher bosses.

@@zyfryth I still think that you might be calling a guard counter a parry. When you guard counter, you attack an enemy that hit your block, dealing heavy damage, posture and regular alike. When you parry, you actively parry their attack. A parry has never been about reducing damage in earlier souls games, but about actively intercepting it and landing a riposte. That's what parry does, lands into a riposte, no posture breaking needed. A parry also isn't landed with a differing degree: Either you'll land a parry and take no damage at all and then riposte, or you'll whiff it and take a part of the hit. A parry pretty much always lands the enemy into a riposte state, but in a few select cases lands them into a heavy stagger you can punish with a loaded heavy. To my knowledge the state or even the existence of their posture has nothing to do with this. I'm also not sure how ashes of war mix into this, as to my knowledge they don't change the way the underlying mechanic of parrying works in comparison to natural parry tools. That is, if you don't count the auxiliary effects some of them have. So, you can break an enemy's posture to lead them into a riposte, or you can parry an enemy to lead them into a riposte. If you are talking about guard counters (the one you do after holding "light attack" with a shield and then heavy attack with your weapon), you do damage to their posture, yes. It's heavy damage and very recommended to do whenever safe, even if it doesn't instantly break their posture. You can repeat it with many enemies to break their posture eventually and then riposte them. The game is new and there are things I don't yet know of, but parrying seems to work like it has worked before the entire concepts of posture or guard counters ever existed.

@@qwormuli77 I am not confused about the difference between block and parry. You can block with any shield and any two-hander. Parry ash of war is a skill, you assign to a shield dagger rapier and it is about 0.1 sec active movement that stops damage and has a chance to stagger for reposte. This chance is 100% on trash mobs, but it is not 100% on bosses, as far as I can tell, although it does it sometimes. However it always stops damage if it connects, its just it doesnt always brakes their initiative.

Didn't Bloodborned implement this a bit already? I'm not talking about how you have to do backstabs, but I was playing a new game last night and was fighting Amelia and was having a bit of a rough run on my build, used R2 attacks a bit more and started staggering her which allowed a few extra hits and getting through the fight. It might not be entirely the same thing, but even back in Bloodborne R2s were a bit more "Do I do this and risk getting a stagger, but if I don't I have a longer recover time and will most likely take some damage"

@@WeinerTouchy In BB R1 spam is still much more favourable to you as a player. Amelia for example: it's better to hit her a lot on her arms to break them than it is to land big attacks. Since you'll do bonus damage after breaking. Transformationñ attacks also are better. Although that varies from weapon to weapon. DS3 also had a rudimentary implementation of the posture system you see in Sekiro and now in Elden Ring, but mainly on bosses and special enemies like the Giant Crabs, Monstrosities, and Corvian Knights. Bosses and Giant crabs, if you hit them enough, especially on a weakspot (Gundyr, Lorian, Midir) will collapse and be open for a critical or instability damage. In Elden Ring, we see the Giant Crabs again, and the Land Octopus enemies that have a special weakspot you have to hit to earn an instant critical. In Giant Crabs the opening is the same as in DS3 were you just had to press R1 in the middle of their slam to critical them, but now, similar to the Corvian Knights or Monstrosities, you must hit them at the right moment you posture break them. In Elden Ring they extended these systems to even regular enemies and bosses fully. So posture works more consistently like in Sekiro, and not situationally like in DS3. Also consider that in BB damage types were more prominent than in the Trilogy. I recently used a HMS build, and against Ebrietas I exclusively used Untransformed R2 because Thrust is simply better. Ofc if you're using LHB or Kirkhammer a charged R2 is a risk worth taking if you time it right. But that still doesn't change the fact that limb breaking and R1 spam is better for DPS and safety.

@@WeinerTouchy bloodborne more did it for regular enemies with it's encouragement to fully charge an R2 on an enemy's back BUT, bosses often had weak points that sometimes could be better hit with heavies, causing staggers. I would definitely say this system is iterating on both BB and Sekiro.

@@WeinerTouchy Bloodborne has a Limb breaking system on some bosses

Theres literally nothing different dude I've been fighting like that for all the souls games It works on players and Npc's alike Congratulations you learned you can do different things

Which also makes clearing the game using melee so much more staisfying I do intend to do a astrologer run but the things you can do with these mechanics are insanely wide if you incorporate ashes of war

@palehorse mage builds also come with demerits as most bosses tend to punish you for keeping too much distance and rolling away This game implemented input reading, you get greedy and you will die real fast

I’m doing fine so far almost exclusively with a Lordsworn Greatsword. Just dodge.

@@pianospawn1 that sword won't take you very far in the game. I used that sword into it started to suck. Using uchigatana now and I bleed out every boss

@@kenshinhimura9387 in some youtubers video i found out where uchigatana is. I'm glad i watched it because otherwise i wouldn't have explored that mini dungeon until after i had a way to defeat its enemies (which i hope does exist)

Now that I have 80 hours in Sekiro I can't imagine to go back to a Souls game with no jumping at all. It's such a great feeling.

@@dramalexi Now only if there was a grappling hook too.

@@akiraigarashi2874 That's true. But at least we get a Yakul to ride and fight on.

@@dramalexi Beating final boss felt soooo satisfying, did it couple of days ago. I literally thought this was impossible for me, because I've never been stuck on a boss for 3 days! Glad I was wrong

@@tiberseptim7644 Sekiro teached me that there are no bosses which are impossible. The negative side of it is that you'll have to learn all of their patterns and all possible ways you can die. Yesterday it took me 4 hours to beat Inner Father with hard mode on. It took another 2 hours to safely beat him on most attempts. I think in Sekiro it all amounts to 10% strategy, 30% skill and 60% of rinse and repeat.

I'm so used to the muscle memory I forget to even jump 😅

I've fucking HATED every FromSoft game I've played, to the point where I won't/can't play past the second boss. DS1-3, Bloodborne, nothing clicked. This game though...I love this game. It's so weird seeing so many DS fans complain about the difficulty of this game. I've taken out at least a dozen different bosses so far, and I haven't felt trapped yet

@@willgarrison4959 The main complaints are about the late game. A few of the bosses around that point tend to get spammy with their combos and rely on a bunch of memorization stuff rather than too much skill. It feels less fun than a normal souls game in aspects

@@miz7126 imo all souls game bosses are just muscle memory, you can have bad reaction time and still destroy bosses thats why it might take you 20 attempts just to get through one boss. But with elden ring, the dynamic combos force you to think more instead of just putting 2 and 2 together. Its not really bad or good but it makes it more difficult and kinda annoying. In dark souls none of the bosses would literally sit there and spam unpredictable combos that would last forever. this really suck when the bosses kill you in one to two hits and have a crapload if health.

lol, I just left a similar comment. Really interesting, and I think indicative of good game design.

I like running the same type of build, but I keep finding myself fighting bosses and now even some regular enemies that have insane AoE attacks or are hyper aggressive, so being patient is still rewarded. One example is a boss far up north who does this big sweeping attack, and it looks like he’s open afterwards, but then he lets out a massive AoE attack with little warning, destroying you if you went for any big hit.

big bonker does big stagger

I wonder how large a role stability will play in the ability to actually block. In ds1, some attacks would flatten you regardless of blocking if your shield had less than 61 stability. The moment you went from 60 stability to 61 stability your shield could suddenly tank black knight gs overhead, capra overhead, and quite a few other attacks that seem unblockable at first.

But he is super easy to dodge though

I just beat him like how I approach orher souls games by attempting him 40 times, dodging, and dying a lot. Eventually you’ll learn his moveset. But margit in my opinion is not the boss that will force you to adapt. You can even just level your character up and beat him with not much effort. Some of the bodses in this game are extremely unforgiving and harder to fight than margit. Now that I think about it using a shield against some of these bosses could seriously cut the difficulty.

@@mastertrey4683 I just don't get how THIS is the boss people struggle with. You can block, parry, stagger, spam, roll. You can summon a minnion and they even left an npc summon right next to the fog gate. And if that wasn't enough you can simply go around the castle to unlock the round table and continue exploring the rest of the game without being crippled by low tier weapons and upgrades.

@@doihavetobeg I have soloed Midir and he gave me trouble. Guarding pre-patch was not worth it especially with a short range weapon and his aggression is far higher than almost all souls bosses in melee.

Mmmm i think your misspelled godrick that old man was a walk

Ooooh that would be fascinating! I’ve interpreted the Elden Ring as the rule set and physics of this universe, in other words, the source code. Gaining powers through meddling with the “source code” would be sick as hell.

That's one of my biggest wishes too cause it'd add so much to the exploration and some extra potential for different encounters. Another idea could be an eventual DLC tied to the waters of Lands Between which would turn all bodies of water explorable through swimming and have some kind of story tied to it all

They also added the stealth from sekiro I know u probably know this but it means that isn't all they carried over

There's definitely some no combat sekiro in the game with stealth,jump,verticality in level traversal,music in the background and hopefully more than just the posture bar in combat

From: adds swimming mechanics Players: swims through the texture and skips half of the game.

It was pretty funny to me when he said they want you to block with a sword and as proof showed that the blocking was buffed from god awful to just terrible. At 85 I would consider calling it intentional but I still wouldn't like to use it.

@@xvnz its more likely to be useful on STR builds with large weapons like UGS and whatnot. I imagine UGS will have 90-95 physical reduction on the best ones. Assuming they're in the full game, of course. The game definitely incentives shields over blocking with weapons, though, and if the smaller weapons like longswords or scimitars had 85 physical reduction then shields would be pointless. The increase in damage reduction is definitely incentive for guard counters, its just not good on the smaller weapons for balancing reasons. Id also imagine that the smaller weapons have insane posture damage on jumping L1s when powerstancing. If not, then powerstancing mag not be as good as we thought it would be.

@@xvnz the block into the special counter is still really good for posture damage,and depending on what’s going on, it might be preferable to getting out of the way. You can use a shield to do it as well. You don’t have to two-hand. Though, yes, I agree. Just blocking with your weapon is still incredibly underwhelming. And I don’t think NG+ is taken into consideration, when I see those numbers.

Margit is the boss that shows the REAL intended way, the roll catch knife attack is meant to be blocked and guard countered. Hammer slam attack opens up for Jump attacks. The later bosses become more complicated movesets and do more damage, making rolls the only most safest way that everyone would use it instead.

@@aryabratsahoo7474 too bad his knife hits through block, meaning you inevitably would have to dodge it.

"It's pretty apparent that there's some kind of issue when you notice the massive disparity between magic, and WA spam, compared to trying to fight things in a more "traditional" way with more conventional weapons." thats because playing this game just the "traditional" way is wrong, you gota mix and match, something alot of souls vets still havent figured out and blame the game for it, fromsoft are bored of designing all their games with just R1s and backwards dodging waiting for enemies and bosses to finish their combos.

@@flamingmanure The issue is there's nothing to mix and match. All signs point to these changes being made to encourage multiplayer/spirit ash use, not actual combat variety.

@@applejhon8308 it’s the same as me saying you’re encouraged to use the most powerful weapon that clears all bosses in 2-3 hits depending on how difficult they are, spirit ashes are a way for you to get assistance without having to go through using Co-op, and that’s a neat feature, Elden Ring offers that option to its players, you using them to beat bosses is you admitting you can’t beat them alone, you don’t want to learn their mechanics and move sets, YOU are supposed to look for their punish windows since the bosses will attack relentlessly, so instead of “waiting”, look for those openings, they really become much easier. When past Souls games’ bosses had summons right near their fog walls, does that mean you’re encouraged to use em? No lol, they’re optional.

Same actually: in preparation for Elden Ring bought Dark Souls Remastered near the end of November, bought Dark Souls 2: SotFS and Dark Souls 3 a couple of weeks later after finishing DSR, and now I'm on my second DS3 playthrough as a Pyromancer.

@@StrikeNoir105E idk if ur inclined, but i heavily suggest looking up the locations of the pyromancy tomes if you're going as a pyromancer. you'll probably find hidden areas you had no idea about if you do

Not to shit on your parade but if you've only played them once, you've barely scratched the surface.

@@hisholiness4537 I mean, yeah. I'm definitely gonna play em all several times down the line

I got into soulsborne games about 4 months ago, platinumed every one including sekiro. I can’t Fucking WAIT for Elden Ring!!!!!!’

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Same. It didn't feel like i really earned the wins

That's right, "iT's dArK sOuLs 3.5"

These videos are so quality. I had watched a few videos of yours and realized i wasn't subbed. Changed that quick. I hope that long dark playthrough comes back too.

There were enemies that would only stagger and open to critical attacks with a fully charged R2 on some specific member,like the sulyvhan beasts.

Yup, as far as i know that stagger would depend on certain number of hits on the head most oftenly ( Midir, Demon Prince ) or generally certain number of hits ( Gael..at third hit is staggered )...

So is elden ring sentient and has the thought process of wanting me to play different or is it the game designers who do?

I might be wrong but I think r2s were better at staggering because they do more damage to a boss' poise

man i just backpedaled and hit him with fireballs 😭😭😭

@@cheese4746 When you don't have a big weapon or heavy shield, what else are you going to do?

Really? I just held L1

I tried playing fair against Bloodhound… I gave up trying to play honorably, uneqipped all my armor and clapped him with my long sword armament. Spammed it the moment he spawned in and didn’t give him any opportunity. Boy was staggered into the afterlife.

Bloodhound poise was incredibly low, I spammed greatsword's L2 and he just went flying and I did it again and again until he died, poor boi.

Becareful tho jumps have i-frames only when you start jumping. But when in the air or falling you'll be very vanurable.

@@FireGiantFoot which is perfect if you're trying to jump over a distinct sweep attack

Agree 100%, i personally dislike blocking in from games because i think it slows down the pace of a fight. I’m definitely gonna enjoy playing a quick jump dodging twinblade build.

tbh in sekiro I felt jumping was a little op I don't recall ever really using standard dodge, because jumping back, side, or forward was just always more effective so really happy it won't be like that this time

Same here I always play souls games like 2 handed heavy weapon and all heavy attacks. So naturally in Elden ring I power stance 2 great swords

If he had audiobooks I'd listen

Once the combat clicks you feel like a Jedi samurai ninja Jesus.

The problem is that sekiro is a total different game, here is just dark soul with a twist; as in sekiro you had to totally change the way you play here you just have to R2 when u block, not R1 Use bleeding weapons Abuse jump attack againts npc Not a real difference, but since there's a lil twist it feels!

Oh man, after playing Nioh 2 almost 1000 hours I am afraid I cant go back to playing traditional soulsborne games:)

Yeah I prefer that way of doing things.

I would say the combat in sekiro is sooo much better then any of the souls games but that’s coming from a sekiro fan boy

@@tylerbrush2314 Sekiro has better combat, but less variety. Souls games have great combat and more variety so I think it depends on preference.

@@esaualfaro3447 i would agree they do re use a lot of bosses but the variety in combat is just so dang fun always good to see sekiro get at least a hat tipped to it

Yeah, Genichiro in Sekiro as well.

it's a great part of their game design they understand if they add new features they should have a boss take advantage of those features and aim to force the players to get used to them or adapt. Many games overlook this I feel but from soft seems to do this well every time

There's a bunch of lore channels that use Metroid music

still dumb since some casting animations take like 8 seconds

You will get a feel for it if you put in the attempts. They dont want to hold your hand in this gamd

@@aluminumbeluga Was Sekiro "holding your hand?" Should enemies just not have health bars either? As a player, I like having access to this kind of info so I can formulate better strategies and make more meaningful choices.

@@connorgaskill7653 I never played Sekiro, didn't know they put that in there :) I do know that they broke the formula a bit with Sekiro, and the difficulty was presented in different ways, but you evidently had different tools to deal with it. I don't think that not having a poise bar is an unreasonable decision. It's intuitive enough, and sometimes you just have to brute force knowledge out of the bosses in Elden Ring. Good luck on your adventure fellow tarnished :)

I wonder if that's what the "Guard Boost" stat is at 6:15, if you add it to the physical absorption it does come to 100% guard so you might be on to something.

@@CousinChal That"s probably just a new name for Stability.

God, I wish. Playing Elden Ring like Sekiro without Kuro's charm would be absolutely amazing. I wonder if that is something that could be relatively easy to mod into the game...

@@mrtyphoon8923 no idea but I think it would be an awesome feature and way to play

It's the best game fromsoft has made but the loser hipsters who played souls first will always find stupid complaints

@@forwardmoving8252there are things to criticize elden ring about for sure, but whenever I see a souls fan complaining that the game functions in some way that is different to dark souls it just ends up feeling so disconnected to my own experience. For example, having a decent background in rhythm games that require a lot of trial and error/memorization, it always irks me when I see people complaining that they need to memorize things bosses do (like delayed attacks) and use trial and error. Like yeah? That’s part of fun and satisfaction of the fight? I sat there and fought the tree sentinel at the very start like 60 times till I beat it and it felt infinitely more rewarding than the random evergaol bosses I would just beat without needing to learn or memorize anything.

@@iUseDemFrapz That a gross misrepresentation of the complain Dark souls fans have, let me correct you here. We don't complain that we need to learn boss pattern. We complain that there a tons of delayed attack and most of them don't really feel natural Mostly the one where they go from a fast combo to an extremly delayed heavy swing where it feel like they are in slowmo/low gravity all of a suden. Add to that the tendency boss have to just dash away right after their last hit while your still in the dodging animation and it just make it feel like half the time, dodging a combo ain't rewarding. Delay itself it not a bad thing, Most boss also got small delay between their fast attack so it punish roll spam, and that a big upgrade from DS3 where dodge was imo, op due to being spammable. And in the end all of that don't even matter since you can just slowly walk back and spam spell to beat most boss or just spamm jump attack or bleed to stagger boss all while dealing 1/5 of their hp bar per hit. Like the game feel like it balanced like piss and the gap between a meta build and a mid tier build feel abysmal, where as in previous tittle even trash tier weapon would be good in some part of the game. Elden ring just feel like I modded my dark souls to turn boss and myself into an modern anime char where we just spam some bullshit and we kill eachother in 6 hits.

@@magikazam8430 i never said anything about boss patterns. I think the way you describe your complaints about delayed attacks is exactly what i was describing. I personally don’t see them as an issue and enjoyed memorizing how to counter them. I see lots of people complain about how the delayed attacks are unintuitive and rely on memorization, but I personally think that it makes it more rewarding to overcome. You can’t just beat something in one attempt without much challenge. I also think the wide variety in builds and strengths of different things makes some of the more unfair things of bosses more tolerable, but a lot of dark soul fans seem so caught in needing to play the game the exact way that they played dark souls so they will intentionally avoid anything else the game introduced which makes the game unnecessarily hard. I’m not even really talking about magic or summons, but rather basic things like taking advantage of the stance mechanics or ashes of war. I understand that people will still complain that they can play the game the way they want like this, but that still just ties back to my idea that people just want the game to be another dark souls rather than it’s own thing. I mean even if you want to just light attack and dodge roll and nothing more there are plenty of ways you can do that viably. But of course the complaint would then be that they had to look things up and couldn’t play the game blindly even though they could if they didn’t limit themselves so much in the first place. Obviously though much of this is the fault of the game not communicating some of these new mechanics that well like not showing a bosses stance bar for example, but I still think many of the complaints often just come across as “why is this not dark souls”.

@@iUseDemFrapz so to awnser to your point in order. 1, Memorisation and delayed attack has alway been part of the souls series, the difference here is that it feel unatural and just like if boss magically became slower for 3 sec then proceeded to change speed and acellerate themselve for the 3 next hit, whatever weapon or general mvoeset they use. Boss in previous games that did that usually had some reason in their design to do it. Think Potiff sulivan who got two sword and usually switch what weapon he will hit you around the 2 last hit. It make sense compared to let say, Crucible knight with sword and shield who just randomly slow down mid spin, only then to accelerate. It just feel like artificial difficulty to punish panic rolling, where other fix like making roll cost more stamina or just slowing down role speed and adding parry base/ move that can only be dodged by jumping. 2.The variety of build don't really matter due to what is ''Meta'' in the end, I'l explain it later one, but due to the stagger what make build good or not is just burst damage most of the time. It has the nasty effect where the best way to negate boss Bs is to cheese them and that a poor way of balancing the game? What the next step? Will they make dlc boss 10 time faster and stronger than Milenia but balance it out by giving player a spell/ashes of war that quadruple their stats and damage, all while giving live steal? To me it just seem that thew solution against boss being anoying to fight is to make them... less anoying? not making the player stronger to the point that they can easily stun lock every single boss in the game effortlessly if they want so. 3. Elden ring only added Ashes of war and the spirit npc summon things. Ashes of war have the same problem than weapon art, because well, they are weapon art. Issues being that in Elden ring, they just solve EVERY PROBLEM in a fight. it almost alway the best option in almost every situation. They either boost and add to the bonus stacking issues of the game or they give you move that deal tons of damage, faster than m1, and therefore Stagger boss. Even when you don't do a meta build they still are the best option of your kit when going melee. Monster is using a shield? Use weapon art to try and guardbreak them, Monster is attacking? Use weapon art to stagger them, Monster doing nothing? Use weapon art for top damage and bigger likeliness to stagger them. The spirit summon are fine as a concept and are a good alternative to summoning a player. Only issue is even after nerf some of the npc are just straight up op in term of stats, Mimic tear + 10 could and can still solo lots of boss for a low low price of hp. Like some of them are 3x time better than any player you could get. Magic as always been part of the series since demon souls and has the same issues as in Dark souls 2. Aka it deal to much damage on top of giving tons of utility, all while being far from the boss. On top of that lots of enemy, even boss have AI that simply don't know how to fight a mage. Godfrey first phase will simply walk slowly in your direction while you spam spell on him from afar. It even worst on any world map boss like Dragon where you can just stack poison/rot/freeze aoe on them then run away while they just sit in there and slowly walk back to their zone. The issues with the new stuff is not that they exist, is that it seems they just ain't balanced well. 4. I have a big issues with looking stuff online to just folow quests and find out sutff... in a game about exploration where these things should be natural. The quest system is VERY similar to the darks souls, except in those it acctualy work cause the game is relatively linear and zone are small so it fast to explore them and find npc. In Elden ring it don't really work since the map is big and it easy to miss or skip npc, especially while the game encourage you to forget some place and go back there later. In the dark souls game, npc questline often just, folowed part of the linear ''path'' in the map. with the map being an open world this concept don't work here either. It just feel like they got 2 clashing idea that just work well on their own but not together.

Its not better than Darksouls1

I had to stop playing souls series because they consumed me ....I bought this today and oh boy goodbye the next 3 + years

Im my opinion they reused all the mechanical parts of dark souls added the tricks of sekiro to it including stealth and a jump! And made a giant map full whit al the mean traps they coud ad in it. So to say they actualy learned from older games they made and asked themselfs... how can we improof it all?

i havent felt the way about a game that i do about elden ring since i first got into skyrim

You know what the best bit is - whatever FS make next its gonna be even better

So basically this video is useless, yeah I found it kind of lame, sidestep makes more sense and actually looks better.

​​@@dontbothertoreply9755Not necessarily. In Elden Ring, R2s are generically useful for their stagger. In Dark Souls 3, the utility of R2s on the majority of weapons is terrible. UGS is more like an exception that proves the rule.

Me, a DS1 player who has strictly followed the teachings of 'just roll through it': ''why hast thou forsaken me?''

Pretty frustrated at how long I had to scroll through the comments before I found one that mentioned Bloodborne mechanics (though I would add that weapon transform attacks are another way Bloodborne kept the player from needing to rely on R1 spam). Cheers, mate.

@@kyledaugherty1609 it's amazing how people just seem to forget about it and how it contributed to other games in the series. I was rather surprised that the video didn't mentioned it tbh, but I'm glad a fellow hunter appreciated it!

@@AdumbroDeus bah, a PS exclusive - I was interested once, but it seems it is gone now, as newer games with good frame rates take its place. Good riddance!