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Lord I thank you from the depths of my heart. Bless your servants who serve as vessels for your Words to refresh our thirsty souls. Thank you Jesus 🙏

Thanks to pastor voddie for his time and his sermon GOD bless you pastor

You need to wake up and find Jesus… There’s no truth to election and predestination that is a demonstrate from the devil… Mohammed believes in predestination Jesus says anyone who is thirsty may come… It’s also in revelation chapter 22 verse 17 through 18 Once you’re thirsty, and start seeking, then God draws you these demons do itching years preaching they will pay a high penalty when they face Christ for their garbage

Your testimony is great evidence toward the truth, that the Calvinist teaching of the idea of the doctrine of election is horrible and leads people away from God. You were one of the fortunate ones to find your way back to right standing with God. How many thousands of others though have not been that fortunate and because of Calvinism have fallen away from God? Terrible.

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Im a truck driver an i also listen to sermons all day i have actually listened to all of john McArthur seroman in less than 2 years now i have moved on to Voddie and paul washer sermons i mix them up now but yea 60+ years of theology cramed into my head in less than 2 years. And everyday i cry many times a day. Rideing around town listening to the gospel for 10+ hours a day. And i know i still have a long way to go and i try my best not sin. But man is it hard and i know its not works plus jesus christ. But jesus christ alone !!! But i tell you what i look forward to the day i never sin again. But the only way that will happen is by dieing. And another thing if jesus told me I had to stand in one spot for all eternity. I would do it with a smile on my face. You know why because i would be where jesus christ is. Heaven is just a by product. I dont care about that Heaven would be hell if jesus wasn't there. Every one wants to go to heaven but most dont want jesus christ there. How sad

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Unfortunately, he is not serving Yahweh

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There would bo no warnings in the entire Bible about endure to the end.How about i will not erase his name from the book of life?😊

My very best friend at work proved to me this doctrine. She is the kindest, sweetest person, has been through trials the God pulled her out of, yet she tells me she just "doesn't get the whole God-thing". I told her that I understood and that not everyone was chosen "to get it"...all I knew is that I understood that God chose me before I was even born because He has plucked me out of many instances where I should have died...it is hard to explain to people, but the fact that have felt this way for so many years tells me this doctrine is true! I still pray for my friend and love her...

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Prasie God. Soli Deo Gloria.

Soli Deo Gloria

Amen amen (as spoken by the Lord to Nicodemus - Jn.3:3.) The Lord would have you know that it does not work that way you think. And that is why you are still in your sins. For one, you have to conform to the Image of the Son who is Mashiah. This is what we have been predestined to by Abba Patyr' (Whom you do not know) - Eph.1:5,11.Rom.8:28-30.12:2. And that by being no longer conformed to the image of the world by the bond of sin. (Rom.12:1,2.) It is that introduction to the Heavenly Father that transforms you by the Word He writes on your heart making it new. (Ezek.11:19.18:31.36:26.) Your new heart goes with your new Spirit that is of Christ. (Rom.8:9.) But Abba Patyr' cannot write on your heart as long as you have a will to sin. That means to Him you have no fear of the Lord. He changes your fear to love! (agap(e)ytos!) You have to come to know that without fulfilling righteousness by seeking the kingdom of God (Christ in you) he will never reveal Abba Patyr' to you. (Matt.11:27-30.) Growing in Wisdom is something we do as children if we have that covering in parents. Otherwise Wisdom (the Lord calls her Sofia) is not given until the Patyr' is revealed by His Spirit He calls Ruach. (Zech.4:6.) That is when Wisdom is given liberally in the secret place who admitted you into the Royal Priesthood Household of the Almighty. (Ps.91:1,15.) That is when you call Wisdom sister (Prov.74.) and she gives you the Double secrets of Wisdom. (mishnah tal-alluman Chakmah) Abba atyr' calls her Chakmah. She brings Understanding with her to give you clarity. Your teaches have no clue! He says why die in your sins? Repent now before it is too late!

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Praise God for His Grace and Mercy

Me too! When he says "you are a wretched sinner"!! Phew! i am sooo glad i now know in sincerity the price paid for me and the mercy and grace given; it is overwhelming and my mind cannot wholly process it... such love is beyond this fleeting body of dust, soul and mind of mine to process in its entirety🙏

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That was said by Job. Not much was known about Satan then. The devil comes to steal, kill and destroy. Jesus has come that we might have life and have it more abundantly.

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Yes, I'm always concerned about people I love that are muslim, I can just show them Jesus's love and pray that some are God's chosen and He will call them.

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Me too. God be praised my brother as we learn and apply that we may be drawn closer by the hoot spirit n let us keep Pastor Baucham constantly in our prayers.

Roman 6:16-17 states. "You are slaves of the one you obey, either of sin, which leads you to death, or of obedience to teaching, which leads you to righteousness." And 1 John 3:8-9 states, "Whoever sins belongs to the Devil. No one, who is begotten by God, commits sin." Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, please examine yourselves sincerely and determine which category you belong to. Many of you believe some verses in the Bible, think they know and follow Christ, and are saved; and find themselves to be in the first one. Why? Because they do not truly know Christ, nor the True Faith, and are separated from the Source of Grace like branches separated from the Vine (John 15:6). St. Paul said in 1 Cor 9:27, "I chastise my body and bring it into subjection, lest perhaps, after I have preached to others, I myself should become a reprobate." St. Paul, an Apostle, was concerned about the possibility of losing his salvation, thus proving that 'Once Saved, Always Saved', 'Faith alone", or 'Predestined" is a complete lie, and that the salvation requires a great efforts on our part to truly live according to Our Lord's Commandments of Love and observing All He commanded as taught by His One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church (Matt 28:20), so that we may be transformed into the True Image and Likeness of Christ (Rom 8:29, 2 Cor 3:18); because, we are judged, not by Faith, but according to our deeds and works (Rev 20:13, 22:12. Matt 25:31-46). Our Lord said, "Sins against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven (Matt 12:31-32, Mark 3:29, Luke 12:10)." Do not be shocked, but you all, who follow false teachings of protestant churches, have sins against the Holy Spirit, who always remains with, and guide the Catholic Church (John 14:16-17, 16:13), by rejecting the Catholic Church teachings. Why remain outside the Catholic Church, Our Lord's Only Fold (John 10:16), His Body and Bride whom He saves (Eph 5:23), and risk your eternal salvation? Come to His Sheepfold quickly, like the prodigal son (Luke 15:11-32), before it is too late. Amen!

Our election is in Christ. it's not us individually.

I can tell you that you can...I finally came to the election Calvin's view when I looked at the attributes of God...the first thing I did when the Holy spirit showed me the truth ..I just fell to my knees...everyday I'm in awe and since we have no idea who will be saved it makes us want to proclaim the gospel even more...

Soli Deo Gloria

The Lord doesn’t want me wasting the time it’s gonna take to see is this about predestination that you are predestined before you were born?

Soli Deo Gloria

Unfortunately, Voddie is right, but he’s wrong. the implication of this quote is right that we don’t bring anything of value to our salvation, but he’s wrong that all we bring is our sin. Very importantly, we also bring our responsibility, given to us by God, to surrender to God and repent of our sins. Leaving that out causes people to fall into the heresy of Calvinism.

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Roman 6:16-17 states. "You are slaves of the one you obey, either of sin, which leads you to death, or of obedience to teaching, which leads you to righteousness." And 1 John 3:8-9 states, "Whoever sins belongs to the Devil. No one, who is begotten by God, commits sin." Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, please examine yourselves sincerely and determine which category you belong to. Many of you believe some verses in the Bible, think they know and follow Christ, and are saved; and find themselves to be in the first one. Why? Because they do not truly know Christ, nor the True Faith, and are separated from the Source of Grace like branches separated from the Vine (John 15:6). St. Paul said in 1 Cor 9:27, "I chastise my body and bring it into subjection, lest perhaps, after I have preached to others, I myself should become a reprobate." St. Paul, an Apostle, was concerned about the possibility of losing his salvation, thus proving that 'Once Saved, Always Saved', 'Faith alone", or 'Predestined" is a complete lie, and that the salvation requires a great efforts on our part to truly live according to Our Lord's Commandments of Love and observing All He commanded as taught by His One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church (Matt 28:20), so that we may be transformed into the True Image and Likeness of Christ (Rom 8:29, 2 Cor 3:18); because, we are judged, not by Faith, but according to our deeds and works (Rev 20:13, 22:12. Matt 25:31-46). Our Lord said, "Sins against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven (Matt 12:31-32, Mark 3:29, Luke 12:10)." Do not be shocked, but you all, who follow false teachings of protestant churches, have sins against the Holy Spirit, who always remains with, and guide the Catholic Church (John 14:16-17, 16:13), by rejecting the Catholic Church teachings. Why remain outside the Catholic Church, Our Lord's Only Fold (John 10:16), His Body and Bride whom He saves (Eph 5:23), and risk your eternal salvation? Come to His Sheepfold quickly, like the prodigal son (Luke 15:11-32), before it is too late. Amen!

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@surrenderdaily333: This might work for you as it's worked very greatly for me: I listen to the teachings over and over and each time I do, what I didn't understand becomes clear and concise. I usually understand all of Pastor Voddie's teachings, such as this one, the first time hearing them because HE is so clear and concise and explains things extraordinarily well. Whenever I re-listen to his teachings, it's because I wanna memorize them as much as possible. Thank you. (Lauren Waters)

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@@gfbc1689 oh, I only opened your worthless video to make a comment. I guard my mind from hearing error

Some are vessels of wrath others vessels of grace we are but clay

Definition of Grace: "the act of giving acceptance unconditionally and voluntarily to an undeserving person by an unobligated giver." Freewillers say that God is merciful/gracious and just but then say that it's evil for God to choose to save certain people and condemn the rest to the lake of fire. So we're deserving of forgiveness now, deserving of grace? God is obligated to forgive us? That isn't grace then, nobody deserves heaven, only the lake of fire for their sins. You may say that it's evil for God to condemn someone for a crime He created them to commit, but then is God the Truth, the ultimate standard by which all goodness is derived or not? If God is the Truth then His decisions are always true and just, if God choosing people for heaven and hell makes Him evil then God is NOT the truth and is subject to some law or authority outside of Himself, namely yourself, amongst all those who cast this charge against Him, as you seem to want to judge God for His actions. God's justified in punishing our sins whether there's freewill or not. I've seen no predestinarian ever call God evil, wicked, or a devil for not conforming to their preconceived notion of what He should do and be, nor refuse to worship Him if there was freewill (for you it would be "if there was predestination") but that's just Tuesday in the freewill camp. God is the POTTER we are the CLAY, it's not a scripture problem but a problem of pride and humanism. When an Anti-Theist says "How could a loving God send people to hell" or "How could a loving God let all this evil happen" the free willer, perhaps unknowingly, agrees with the Anti-Theist that God could not do such a thing, if He so chose, apart from our actions and yet God created the world knowing that all these things would happen, His omniscience, remember? "Predestination" or not, these things were known about by God and He still created the world knowing that evil was going to thrive in it, so we can call God a devil and join hands with the Anti-Theists or submit to God's authority to do as He pleases. Nothing here is being undermined but your preconceived notion of what God can and cannot do with His creation, thankfully God has given us grace, grace we aren't deserving of, by His will when we were *dead* in trespasses and sins, incapable of knowing God He gave us eyes to see and ears to hear and granted us repentance unto the acknowledgement of the truth. I'm no calvinist but I do acknowledge God's grace as grace and you should to my friend.

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And who is it that overcomes? Those who have been born of God!! 1 John 5:4-5

Revelation (the book of) has no "s" on the end of the word. There is no book of RevelationS - it is the Book of Revelation.

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@@gfbc1689 Thank you! And thanks for uploading these. Where I live even the reformed church I was scouting had an Easter egg hunt 👎 so for now KZfaq is my church until I find a home that doesn't celebrate pagan myths and traditions like Santa Claus and Easter eggs.

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@Cindy Baker ​ Hi there is BIBLICAL predestination and then their is Calvinist predestination which is not Biblical at all. Predestination is mentioned 4 times in the Bible in 3 separate verses and not once is it referring to salvation. In each case the passage clearly says WHO is being predestinated and TO WHAT they are being predestinated to. In all those passages ask your self WHO is being predestined and WHAT are they being predestined to? *Not once is it an unbeliever.* *Not once is it predestined to salvation.* Rom 8:29 - For whom he did foreknow, he also did PREDESTINATE {G4309} to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Rom 8:30 - Moreover whom he did PREDESTINATE, {G4309} them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Eph 1:5 - Having PREDESTINATED {G4309} us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, Eph 1:11 - In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being PREDESTINED {G4309} according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: BELIEVERS are chosen to be Holy and blameless IN CHRIST, are predestined to be adopted children of God BY JESUS, predestined to be to the praise of His glory and predestined to be conformed to His image EPHESIANS 1:4 - BELIEVERS chosen to be Holy and Blameless IN CHRIST. EPHESIANS 1:5 - BELIEVERS are predestined to be adopted children of God BY JESUS: EPHESIANS 1:11,12 - BELIEVERS (who first trusted in Christ) are predestined to be the PRAISE OF HIS GLORY: ROMANS 8:29 - BELIEVERS (those who are in IN CHRIST) are predestined to be CONFORMED TO HIS IMAGE (through sanctification). The DESTINATION has been determined beforehand and NOT the individuals that go there. Heaven or hell. CHOOSE ye this day whom ye will serve. Predestination is NOT about the salvation of lost people. It’s about the guaranteed future of SAVED people. Predestination doesn’t speak to who is saved or not. Rather, it speaks to the ‘DESTINY’ of those who are ALREADY saved/elect. It speaks to God’s ENDS for the elect who are ALREADY IN CHRIST THROUGH FAITH (Believers). It is the BELIEVERS who are the ones who love God, and who are therefore foreknown by Him. IN CHRIST they possess redemption and the forgiveness of sins by faith. BELIEVERS are predestined by God. *It does NOT say that unbelievers are predestined TO BE believers.*

@Aaron Pilkey I'm totally confused...... 1. Those adopted are not saved? 2. Those that are predestined, called ... glorified are not saved? Called to what? Called from what? 3. Are not the ones conformed to the image of Christ are those that are saved? I may kinda/ maybe get where you are coming from.....but Where does belief/faith come from? Can man come to Christ without the Holy Spirit -- unto salvation? Does man save himself???

@@BouncySlim1 Not sure what Bible you’re reading but nowhere in scripture is predestination ever used for an unbeliever. Please show me 1 passage of scripture where an individual unbeliever is unconditionally elected or chosen or predestined to become a believer before the foundation of the world. To clarify incase you misread this… you need to satisfy all of the following: 1) The election is for an individual UNBELIEVER not a believer. 2)The election is UNCONDITIONAL. 3)The election is explicitly to SALVATION and not to service or to something else. 4)The election was BEFORE the foundation of the world and not in time. … no one is saved without believing. Are claiming to have eternal life prior to believing in Christ?

Wait, you weren’t taught about predestination but going into the Bible caused you to come away with an understanding that predestination was necessary?? What were you reading?? Just go back and read Jesus’ words in the gospels. Fix you right up.

@@TheRomans9Guy Predestined is in scripture. The Calvinist’s perversion of Biblical predestination is not in scripture.

Who is going to call on His name?

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This seems to be a very hyperbolic statement.

false teachers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Remember God warned us. predistination could be why many have fallen away they will have to anser to that.

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@@nathanfreeman8250 Please see "why romans 9 doesn't support calvinism" by Joel Korytko

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yes for WHOSOEVER :D

Whosoever that God draws to believe on Christ u can’t cherry pick scripture and run with one Bible verse the Bible must be read and declared in totality.

@@ThemantleofElijah And you can’t add words to the text to make it say something it doesn’t say.

@@Slavelife9279 in what way was I saying or doing that, we clearly see in scripture even from the mouth of Jesus and Paul the theme of scripture is clear that God draws us and he draws the elect and there predestined by him this false teaching of man choosing God is heresy and scripture is used out of context all the time to support the heresy that man chooses God. The whole world is not the whole world of every sinners whenever they want to come to God l, but those who so ever believes. Guess what they won’t believe except God draws them and gifts to them the ability to believe which is faith, God only calls and draws the elect and he predestined the elect. How about you don’t make scripture say what it doesn’t say

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This is not good Bible teaching.

@@nakasinkiwanuka I do have many questions.

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From what I remember of this sermon the same scriptures can be used to explain the non Calvinist point of view.@@TheHillrat4wd

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Yeah MacArthur misfires sometimes, you gotta use discernment with his sermons

@@DemitheGod412 You got it, @DemitheGod412!

Lol..voddie and MacArthur view it the same..voddie speaks at his seminary all the time..sometimes people are just clueless and need to just listen

Exactly that's why their names are blotted out of the book of life. Had to be in there in the first place.

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No we respond to the Gospel because we love him & he gave us that choice. Don’t listen to these Calvinist reformers they twist the scriptures alot.

What scripture verse helped you to come to the conclusion that God sees something in us?... like "we want the truth" and then He chooses us. I would like to think that too...but I don't see that in scripture...

@@TMSBLU3 I havent find anything like this in scripture. There is no direct answer for this question because there is no direct text saying this. Matter of fact, many doctrines dont have. But we can use different ways to look at all the doctrines. Most of the time i use the logical way. Based on this, what i said in the previous comment is exactly what the logic imply: "Saying that God choose, at random, to save or not save, is contradictory to a specific attribute of God: Equity" It is wrong to think that god flips a coin and decides whether you go or not to heaven. That is why many people dont even believe in election/predestination.

​@@TMSBLU3 Like i said, there is not direct text for this. But Romans 8:29 says something intersting: " For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters." From this text, we can say that God, before predestine someone, he had to know something about him.

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Because the flesh competes with the spirit I think is the simple explanation. I'm a baby in christ so don't go crazy on me if I'm wrong please

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If I may - Pastor Voddie does what I believe is "a play on words". A "play on a conversation or thoughts someone might have". In other words, he's play acting. And yes, while what he's play acting is to show how wrong we all can be at times, Pastor Voddie DOES get to the "right part" about his point. If you have to re-listen to that part, (or other parts in other teachings) do so. I've found that to be of great help. Maybe you will too. As a footnote to Pastor Voddie's play acting, it's totally hilarious at times!

Just to clarify that it's not Dr. Baucham's words when you stated, "You did say that "WE don't (can't) choose Christ, that He Choose Us." Those are the very words of Jesus that Dr. Baucham is quoting. ‭‭John‬ ‭15:16‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬ [16] You did not choose Me but I chose you, and appointed you that you would go and bear fruit, and that your fruit would remain, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you.

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God makes some vessels of wrath and some vessels of grace, we are but clay

The fruits of the Spirit are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness & self-control. The greatest of these is love and it's the truest test of being set apart for God. We cannot & do not possess the capability to love apart from God. ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4:15‭-‬21‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬ [15] Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. [16] We have come to know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. [17] By this, love is perfected with us, so that we may have confidence in the day of judgment; because as He is, so also are we in this world. [18] There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love. [19] We love, because He first loved us. [20] If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen. [21] And this commandment we have from Him, that the one who loves God should love his brother also. You can view sanctification as the process of becoming like Jesus Christ. It may take an entire lifetime for most. Hastily pursue Jesus daily, but have patience in the process of Jesus sanctifying you. It's not a sprint, it's a marathon.

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@@gfbc1689 the church

Matter of fact… God bless all of you because someone uploaded this and takes the time to take responsibility of the channel. God bless you and your family as well. ❤

Sorry, we didn't have video recording capabilities at the time. This was back in 2009. It was three years into our church plant.

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@@gfbc1689 No apologies necessary. I understand completely.

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Jesus died for all don't let them tell you any different.

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If infact your name was written in the book of life before the foundations of the earth then predestination is very real..... we are but clay God makes vessels of wrath and vessels of grace and there is NO debating this. Accept your grace, and keep your faith alive through works. God bless. ❤

@DemitheGod412 We can only come to God if He calls us. He calls everyone. No one knows how many times He will call. After so much rejection, He leaves you to your own decision. In some cases (pharaoh etc.) He uses their rejection of Him for His glory and holds them to their decision in judgment. Who are we to say how many times God should extend mercy? The grace of God has appeared to all.

If I may - I believe what Pastor Voddie was saying is: to worry one's self to death over whether someone is of the elect is useless. (I agree. I've never bitten my nails off about whether someone else is or will be saved. "You will know them by their fruits.") In other words, pray for someone's salvation if you must, but at the same time, realize that it is God who calls us to salvation. "...he first loved us." How does worrying over someone being saved do any good? Why would we worry over something we have NO control over? Worry, worry, worry... Even Jesus knew we would worry. He asked "And why do you worry? It will not add one cubit to your life."

No These Calvinist are in Heresy to the highest level saying that God is a Fatalist and he chooses for you. You absolutely suppose to always pray for your family and friends. God predestined us in his Son before the foundation of the world that IN HIM THROUGH THE CROSS WE CAN BE SAVED AND HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. Not that Got saved us in eternity that doesn’t make sense. So yes always remember God died for the world and we can either choose to love him or not.

Did you listen to the sermon at all? He clearly said that we do not know who the elect are, that is not for us to know. God has chosen us to be the means through which he will save people. Therefore, all we can do is pray, preach, and declare God’s truth.

@@cookieraider2182 That is a heresy. I did listen, and it’s not biblical. If you go by this Calvinist teaching, then I don’t even see the point of preaching and spreading the word of God. I don’t see the point in fulfilling the the teachings of Jesus Christ and His word. He either likes you or he doesn’t. I don’t see point in everything in Christianity. This reminds me of Islamic teaching, because they don’t know either if they will go to heaven , it’s all up to Allah if he will like you enough to accept you into heaven or not. Our God is not like that…

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