Electric Chainsaw Review: Greenworks Pro 80V/18" bar

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We test out a Greenworks 80V chainsaw for the first time, showing you how it cuts and giving you our review! 300mpg.org/greenworks-80v-cha...
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Greenworks Pro 80V electric chainsaw is available at many big-box and online retailers. amzn.to/34zwSei
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:33 Battery
00:47 Power On Sequence
00:58 First Cuts
01:39 Pricing
01:57 Chain Tensioning
02:30 Larger branch cuts
03:33 Ben tries the saw
4:14 Auto Power-Off
4:59 Anti Kick-Back
5:10 Drive sprocket and fan
5:47 Cutting dry wood
6:28 Bucking Spikes
7:33 Cutting 7" branches
8:01 4AH Battery
8:18 Cutting 12" Log
9:11 Conclusion and Thoughts
10:50 End Card
Overall, we really liked this saw.
The 80V system provides plenty of power. Just like all electrics, it's very quiet compared to a gas saw. It has a nice positive power-on system where you have to press a power button, and then you hear 3 beeps and see a green light to know it's ready. It also automatically powers off after a minute of non-use. (Don't worry, powering it back on is very quick and NOT inconvenient!)
This saw comes with a 2AH battery. In addition, we also had a 4AH battery with it.
The saw had no trouble cutting through 12" diameter logs.
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@greenworkstools Жыл бұрын

We're happy you loved our chainsaw!

@ROGERWALDMAN Жыл бұрын

I HAVE 4 OF THESE SAWS AND HAVE BEEN USING THEM ON SMALLER JOBS AT MY TREE SERVICE . I HAD A FEW JOBS THAT WE USED ELECTRIC SAWS TO DO THE ENTIRE JOB, LOVE THESE SAWS . CANT WAIT TO GET MY ELECTRIC MINI SKID TO MATCH !

@GoCoyote 2 жыл бұрын

My Milwaukee 16 inch is my go to small saw now, and their batteries last an incredibly long time. I like the on/of switch with the audible indicator on the Greenworks. The Milwaukee also has some weird geometry on the sprocket cover that causes the chips to get trapped. A few minutes with a Dremel tool fixed that. As the electric saws have so much torque, I do not understand why they do not use a .050 blade and chain, since they are using 3/8 pitch. As an electrician, I wish more people would use Watt hours (Whrs) for the batteries, as that is an apples to apples comparison of capacity. It is marked on Milwaukee batteries, and can be calculated fairly closely by multiplying the amp hours by the voltage. There is not necessarily an advantage to one voltage over another, so the amp hour and voltages are somewhat arbitrary. The battery power output is much more dependent on the quality and chemistry of the batteries. Using Whrs for for capacity also allows one to compare the motor efficiencies of different machines, as one can calculate the amount of time that is required to use an equal number of watt hours of power.

@joshg1244 2 жыл бұрын

I just got one of those my self and in my limited usage the battery is still full. Cant wait to get back out there and cut up the rest of my stuff

@joehertel8846 2 жыл бұрын

I love my Milwaukee saw as well , I’ve got my eye on the new dewalt 20 inch model rn and the echo 56v as well (also made by tti) or I’m hoping that Milwaukee will release a new one that can be powered by 2 m18 batteries and run a 20 inch bar , there’s a guy who did actually put a 24 inch bar on his Milwaukee saw and it pulled it with no problem other than it was a pretty slow cut through a 22 inch piece of dry red oak so Milwaukee definitely can make this happen with only a few tweaks to their current design if I can have an electric saw that covers the work of my smaller gas saws(20 and 24inch bars) I’ll be super happy and it will make my firewood side gig wayyyyy more profitable for me

@MrSkyentist Жыл бұрын

Watt hours isn't everything. Lithium batteries still have voltage sag, so if you apply a higher current draw to a lower voltage for the same power consumption, the voltage of the battery will drop more, necessitating a higher amp draw for the same power. Aka, 18v @ 10ah current draw from a 5 ah battery is a 2c discharge rate, where an 80v battery with a 2.25ah current draw is the same in wattage use, its only a 0.9c discharge rate from a 2.5 ah battery. So that 18v battery may dip under load, requiring an 11ah discharge rate for the same watt hour usage, where the higher voltage battery will not dip as much. Some of it is also charge time as lithium batteries really don't like being charged above 1c or 2c max. If the watt hours of the battery and current consumption of the motor are the same, the higher voltage will net you slightly more run time than the lower voltage.

@jason_a_clark 2 жыл бұрын

My favorite feature is to start it you just pull a trigger and not a cord. Getting an engine started can too often fatigue your back before you even begin cutting.

@BenjaminNelsonX Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@NeilBlanchard 2 жыл бұрын

Nice review! The trick with battery tools, for me, is to find a company that makes as many of the tools that you need, that are all well designed and well made - that use the same batteries, and chargers. This ain't easy!

@BenjaminNelsonX 2 жыл бұрын

That's EXACTLY the right approach, and what I always encourage people to do. Buy a battery system, not a tool!

@jason_a_clark 2 жыл бұрын

This chain saw uses the same battery as our Greenworks mower. And they have many tools that use the same system.

@NeilBlanchard 2 жыл бұрын

@@jason_a_clark Understood - I own a mower and string trimmer with the 40V batteries.

@BenjaminNelsonX 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. My brother, the owner of the saw in the video, also bought himself a self-propelled 80V lawn mower which uses the same batteries.

@barelyfree9427 8 ай бұрын

I got an electric WEN 16" and have been an electric convert since. Just ordered a Greenworks 20" since I needed something with a bigger bar. My Ryobi gas has barely seen use as it's been nothing but problems.

@chrissscottt 2 жыл бұрын

T hanks for the info. What I think is a drawback is having a stand alone battery rather than a modular system that I can just add skins to.

@johnwoody4905 2 жыл бұрын

they have there place that's for sure. take care, be safe and well

@vladimirbondaletov2767 Жыл бұрын

По настоящему сравнить бензиновую и электрическую пилу только подержав ее в руках во время работы.Меня останавливала высокая цена,по все же я взял самую мощьную 82v.Обязательно использовать специальное масло для цепи.Именно на такое масло расчитан насос смазки цепи на этой пиле.

@danbates6285 Ай бұрын

I must say that the one of the biggest complaints that I hear about the cordless chainsaws is the bar lube seems to leak from the reservoir that doesn't seem to be a problem with the green works

@GIGATT808 2 жыл бұрын

what voltage is the battery fully charged? thanks for the video

@billbayer5526 2 жыл бұрын

This is by far better than a DeWalt electric saw. Their blade retention system is comical. Thank you for the review.

@bmw328igearhead 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you... I figured that single point retainer was junk, you just helped sway my purchase.

@billbayer5526 2 жыл бұрын

@@bmw328igearhead Definitely don't buy anything that doesn't have two metal bolts that need an actual wrench. I don't know what DeWalt was thinking.

@bmw328igearhead 2 жыл бұрын

@@billbayer5526 like all of their tools, they make them JUST strong enough to do a job.... never overbuilding something so that it lasts. (I'm a mechanic of over 20 years, I still have and use my fathers old Craftsman corded electric drill from the 70s he gave me when I was a teenager. Metal body. 1/2inch chuck on a 3/8 body, and enough torque to literally break your wrists. They don't make them like they used to)

@Hebdomad7 2 жыл бұрын

The added perk to these electric chainsaws is these batteries can be used in other tools or (if available) you can use the battery to recharge phones, power lights and other camping equipment.

@BenjaminNelsonX Жыл бұрын

I've used my 40V Ryobi chain saw battery on my electric bicycle. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r9h6opCBlrnWnn0.html

@ImpartiallySpeaking 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review. For a first time owner, would there be less chance of kick-back with the 80v 16 inch model relative to the 18? I’m v focused on safety. Can you maybe help clarify your ref to ‘if it kicks it will auto stop the blade.’ -presumably you mean if you nudge the emergency break?

@jongoode3296 2 жыл бұрын

I've got a 40V 14" Lynxx chainsaw from Harbor Freight which works great. The cuts curve slightly if the branch is more than about 6", but I think that's because of a cheap bar/chain or I've bent something by abusing it. It was still able to struggle through a 16" log with a 4AH battery. The short chains heat up and stretch a lot faster than the longer ones, I'd take an 18" chain just so it takes 30% longer to warm up.

@eastunder55 2 жыл бұрын

I also have a Lynx 40V chainsaw. I'm a little disappointed with the battery run time and the bar oil leaks out when not in use. Considering the difference in price between Lynx and the competitors, we can't complain too loudly. I also have a Lynx leaf blower which I like. The battery life is good in the blower.

@jongoode3296 2 жыл бұрын

@@eastunder55 The runtime certainly can be shortened with a dull chain and long cuts, but as long as I mix it up a little I get about what I expect out of it, and yeah, the price was pretty nice. Mine also leaks bar oil when not in use, so I only fill it about 1/4 full right before I use it. This is the first chainsaw I've maintained, so I figured they all did that. I have the lunxx trimmer and the battery life on it is longer, chainsaws are just big energy sinks.

@gondorian1006 Жыл бұрын

Curved cuts are a classic symptom of an unevenly sharpened chain

@jongoode3296 Жыл бұрын

@@gondorian1006 that's what I've discovered in the last few months and explains why it wasn't a problem until I sharpened my chain. Still, the unevenly sharpened chain works a lot better than the dull chain.

@Duke_Jupiter Жыл бұрын

Great Review! Does anyone know if the 2Ah 80v battery that came with my Greenworks blower I got from Costco will work in this chainsaw? If so, what kind of performance do you get compared to the 4Ah? My trees aren't as big and the saw wouldn't need to run as long as in the video so was wondering if they could be used as a cheap backup to the 4Ah that comes with the 18" chainsaw Costco has now. Thx!

@millerite4life 7 ай бұрын

I have the same question

@DualTasticToday 2 жыл бұрын

Nice review and the 80 volts. I wonder if the 80 volt battery is universal on all their 80v equipment

@yvetterobertson2770 2 жыл бұрын

Yes it is. I've owned one of their 80v mowers for four years now and bought the 80v string trimmer two years ago. Love them both and will be buying the chain saw soon.

@SethsPhone 2 жыл бұрын

did you ever finish super truck?

@petrusscott3038 Жыл бұрын

Thats a great awesome.

@BenDiscoe Жыл бұрын

What is the model number of this saw? I'm trying to find information on the model 82CS34 which has a 20" bar and 3.4 kW power ("more power than a 60cc gas chainsaw"). Is this the same saw with an 18" bar, or a different model?

@davidjames4915 Жыл бұрын

It is definitely a challenge sorting out Greenworks' various models since they seem to get different numbers when they come with batteries and chargers or if they're in a combo pack with a leaf blower. This saw, I believe, is the 2000402CA but in the manual it is also 2019002CO as well as CSB401. To make things more confusing still there is now a newer model, the 2000041COBT, but the manual has it as the CSB403. I believe these are both 2.0 kW models. The one you've found is from Greenworks' actual "professional" line of nominally 82V (but really the same) tools, with, of course, an incompatible battery. I think the 18" version in the 82V line is rated at 2.6 kW so the 20" really is a different tool. I really do wish that all the battery electric chainsaw manufacturers would start giving the power rating (or at least the current draw) of their motors. We have those numbers for corded chainsaws (where North America's wimpy 120V 15A power supply limits such tools to 1.5 kW or 2 HP; Europeans can buy 2.2 kW chainsaws and I've seen some saws for sale in Asia that supposedly exceed 3 kW) so there's no reason not to have them for battery saws, and since battery saws are not so limited by the domestic power supply, they can theoretically get fairly powerful.

@massmanute 2 жыл бұрын

How would this compare to a gas saw in terms of cc of displacement? Maybe not a fair comparison, but how would it compare to a ~90cc saw, or would it be more like a 45cc saw?

@BenjaminNelsonX 2 жыл бұрын

It would probably be pretty hard for me to make a fair comparison, because I haven't worked with a wide range of gasoline chainsaws, and especially not recently! The Greenworks is running at 80V, which is on the high side of the voltage spectrum for electric lawn and garden tools. We had no issues at all, it had plenty of power, and worked for everything we used it for. That said, I think that if you are doing a LOT of cutting and need it done very fast, a gas engine chainsaw is probably still the way to go. But for anything else, the convenience, quiet, low-vibration, ease of maintenance, and other advantages of electric make it a winner for the typical home-owner type.

@joehertel8846 2 жыл бұрын

This would be in the 35-45cc class , there is nothing electric as of right now that would even come close to a 60 cc saw let alone a 90 cc

@jelliottlein Жыл бұрын

Greenworks states similar to 50cc. They also make a commercial division saw for twice the price that they claim is ~65cc.

@brandonblankenship5293 2 жыл бұрын

How do you like it? How long does the battery last? Does it overheat a lot?

@BenjaminNelsonX 2 жыл бұрын

I was great. We had two batteries. The first lasted through all our general cutting. We really only put the second one one for playing around with some really large test cuts. No overheating.

@siobhangagliardo3229 Жыл бұрын

Did you notice a delay from when you pull the trigger to when the saw turns on? I have an 80V without the on button and it has a noticeable delay between when you pull the trigger to when it starts. It then takes a bit longer yet to get up to cutting speed. For someone used to a lightning fast trigger response and quick acceleration to cutting speed, this is a bit of a nuisance, especially when you need to make a lot of quick cuts. Otherwise, I've been impressed with the saw's performance.

@BenjaminNelsonX Жыл бұрын

I don't remember a delay from pulling the trigger. (This is my brother's saw, and it's been a while since I've used it...) It does have a soft-start, so it takes a moment for the chain to go to cutting speed. The only difference that really made to me is that I simply held down the trigger while making multiple quick cuts in a row. Overall, I really liked it.

@kennypool 2 жыл бұрын

Get the chaps. For safety

@BenjaminNelsonX 2 жыл бұрын

This was the first day we had this. The owner has picked up some additional safety equipment since then.

@Csuttell Жыл бұрын

Can you change the 18" bar for a 16" bar?

@BenjaminNelsonX Жыл бұрын

I don't see why not.

@frankz1125 2 жыл бұрын

Is it only good up to 7 inch wood? The 12 " log was rotten and doesnt really count in my book. I would like to see it cut a 20" fresh log. I need a real saw for the amount of wood I cut. I havent seen an electric chainsaw even close to compare to a gas saw yet. I guess one day

@BenjaminNelsonX 2 жыл бұрын

7" just happened to be the size of the downed tree that we needed to clean up. The 12" log was solid. It was not rotten. We'll be doing some work on a different property coming up. I'll try to shoot some footage then.

@frankz1125 2 жыл бұрын

@@BenjaminNelsonX cool. Ill check it out. Keep em coming. Cheers

@vecamiolo 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve cut many 20”+ logs of hardwood. Has plenty of power. Nothing stops it.

@BenjaminNelsonX 2 жыл бұрын

Good to hear! We didn't have anything real big to test on. We'll report in again as we do some more work with this tool.

@rexlutgen6361 2 жыл бұрын

I've been using the 40volt for 3 years if you have a couple extra batteries by the time they run out of juice so do I

@Bogdan-kk9bd Жыл бұрын

Пользуюсь аккумуляторной пилой greenworks 3 года 👍🪚🔥

@Kntryhart 2 жыл бұрын

1:52 Looks like side cover over chain is loose...shakes really bad. I have the 40 Volt 16-inch model. It is "okay". I DO NOT like the soft start; I presume they do that to increase run time; wish I could turn that off. I wish they would allow the user to select the time that the saw automatically turns off. My saw turns off after 1 minute; so I have to repeatedly reactivate the saw. Annoying when moving limbs out of the way. My saw would throw a chain all the time, no matter how tight the chain was. Finally replaced OEM bar and chain with an Oregon...solved the problem. Your estimate runtime is extremely optimistic I have a newer 6 Amp battery...maybe 25 minutes continuous cutting! I have 2 batteries. IMHO, Poor customer support.

@BenjaminNelsonX 2 жыл бұрын

I actually rather LIKED the soft-start. Guess that's a matter of personal preference. I had an electric push lawn mower a while back which did NOT have soft-start, and it was scary how fast it would start up. I later got a commercially-built mower WITH soft-start on it, and that seemed like such an improvement! We didn't have any issues at all with the chain. Worked great. It's pretty tough to get really fair estimates of run time when it comes to batteries. Age, temperature, and what you are actually doing with the batteries can pretty dramatically change run time. As the old adage says, "Your Mileage May Vary"!

@BenjaminNelsonX 2 жыл бұрын

It does look like that cover was loose at the clip you pointed out. I don't remember specifically tightening down the tensioner bolts before we started. You will note that tensioning was literally the next part of the video!

@Kntryhart 2 жыл бұрын

@@BenjaminNelsonX Soft start on a lawn mower (which normally stays on once started) makes sense to me. The mower blade has more mass and requires more energy to rotate from a stop. But, as in your video, frequent starts and stops are the name of the game when limbing / bucking up small trees. I like to fell trees using the electric saw since I can hear what the tree is communicating.

@RyanDaum 2 жыл бұрын

What Oregon bar did you buy to replace the OEM bar? Not happy with the OEM bar either. I like the saw overall, for most of the work I do here, though. I have the 80v saw.

@user-mq5rl9yq1u Жыл бұрын

А зачем покупать и рекламировать разовые пилы Greenworks???Запчастей и расходников нет ни в одном магазине мира.Сервисы России отказываются доставлять эти запчасти.Ведущей цепной звёздочки так же ни где нет в продаже,которая является основной запчастью.

@BenjaminNelsonX Жыл бұрын

In the United States, I haven't heard of anyone not being able to get parts or otherwise having trouble. If you think you can't get parts for a machine, then don't buy it. That's fine. Often what a person chooses to purchase is partly based on brand reliability. This saw was purchased mostly based on the good experiences of others.