Electric Fence 101: Pros/Cons and Essentials

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Rolling "O" Farm

Rolling "O" Farm

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These are the major pros and cons of electric fencing for livestock along with the three essentials elements to have an effective electric fence system.
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@phillipgrimshaw4934
@phillipgrimshaw4934 Жыл бұрын
While clearing vegetation on an electric fence is listed as a con, it’s actually a blessing in disguise. Most guys in my area build woven wire or barbed wire fences and after 10-20 years of zero vegetation control trees and brush take it over completely and in many cases the whole thing has to be torn out with an excavator if you want to clean it up. Also, I think the American version of High tensile fences don’t emphasize the physical barrier component enough. The New Zealanders have it right in that regard, I think for cattle a 5 wire fence is the minimum and for sheep 7 wire is superb. Going up to 8 or 9 wires is a marginal cost difference and can give you the benefit of electric deterrent as well as a formidable physical barrier. You can still keep posts spaced 25 feet or so but adding a batten/dropper between posts can further tighten the wires for relatively low additional cost.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
Useful thoughts. Thanks
@kathmandu1575
@kathmandu1575 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video - thanks! You are an exceptionally clear-minded and effective communicator.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@missysmessage722
@missysmessage722 Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@zmccllc2096
@zmccllc2096 Жыл бұрын
I love my electric fencing!! Keeps bad stuff out, and good stuff in.
@watergrunt3694
@watergrunt3694 3 ай бұрын
This was a very informative video. I appreciate how you broke this down into segments and clearly explained them.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@mikeb1956
@mikeb1956 Жыл бұрын
Great videos in general and this one is one of your best. One point you should have stressed a bit is the fence MUST BE CHARGED! Unless and while you are working on it. I lost a beautiful ewe that got tangled in a de-energized fence overnight and strangled herself. The sheep and dogs had become so respectful of the hot fence I assumed it was not necessary to keep it powered up. Now I have a combination of hard wire field fences with cross fencing that cost about $8k covering about 2-3 acres. Im adding 3 acres of electric fence and use energized netting to move cross fences within that pasture. The cost should be right around $600 not including the charger I have already.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
You are right! I lost three ewe lambs in portable netting when a fallen tree grounded out my fence while I was gone on vacation. Netting needs to be charged!
@stephenjjwehaha7399
@stephenjjwehaha7399 Жыл бұрын
Love your video, appreciate the help!
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@stevedulaney3744
@stevedulaney3744 Жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thanks Lonnie.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@BlueBeeMCMLXI
@BlueBeeMCMLXI 11 ай бұрын
Prayers for keeping that O rolling. Specific, clear and useful information. Best of health.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jeremyprice8989
@jeremyprice8989 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. You answered some questions that I didn't even know I had.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@markwjr
@markwjr Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Thank you.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@joemc111
@joemc111 3 ай бұрын
City boy here, first time on your station. Being a retired Electrician I guessing at a gate you might bury 3/4 PVC pipes and pull the ground and Hot through.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 3 ай бұрын
Good suggestion! Thanks
@annekern2829
@annekern2829 3 ай бұрын
Very clearly organized and presented
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 3 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it
@directionerfeb1st
@directionerfeb1st 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video! Great job explaining everything so clearly and precisely
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@JL_10acres
@JL_10acres Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was looking at electric fence products today and found your video informative.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
Great! Glad it was useful.
@Simplystressed
@Simplystressed 9 ай бұрын
Thanks this video was exactly what I was looking for,you have a new subscriber 😊
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@josephbinkley
@josephbinkley 8 ай бұрын
Most informative, straight to the point video I've found so far. Thanks for your help!
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@johnypitman2368
@johnypitman2368 2 ай бұрын
I just watched another video and it was like going to a grade school presentation designed to help the children with there lack of attention span and was redundant. Basicly it sucked and was anoying. The very opposite of your well thought out and well explained presentation. I give you a A+
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@2001Artfull
@2001Artfull 3 ай бұрын
A very well done video. Thanks.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 3 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@andrewpiercey2706
@andrewpiercey2706 Жыл бұрын
I also recommend the power wizard after talking to someone who repairs chargers for a living. He stated that they were among the most well built units on the market.
@fairacres6601
@fairacres6601 Жыл бұрын
Gallagher are a very reliable energizer also
@swagginfarmer
@swagginfarmer 10 ай бұрын
Great info.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 9 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@tndeere
@tndeere Жыл бұрын
I been useing the electric rope with a solar charger for about 5 years for cross fencing no problems.
@angelontaneda6494
@angelontaneda6494 Жыл бұрын
muy útil su video !!
@jdwilsun
@jdwilsun 4 ай бұрын
Good info. Thanks
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@metro3692
@metro3692 Жыл бұрын
Very good video. Thumbs up and subed.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@PineRidgeHomestead
@PineRidgeHomestead Жыл бұрын
Great video
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@HoneyHollowHomestead
@HoneyHollowHomestead Жыл бұрын
I have a horse that I can keep in with a single line. I don't even have to have the whole thing energized. So long as a segment is hot, she won't go near it. However, the goats are different. I prefer a solid fence for them at night. I don't want to take chances.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
I completely understand.
@HoneyHollowHomestead
@HoneyHollowHomestead Жыл бұрын
@@rollingofarm Do you have an email address?
@Ranchopistolas333.
@Ranchopistolas333. Жыл бұрын
@@rollingofarm hey , if we went with a solid fence , & we added a electric fence where would u add , inside paddock or outside ? In my situation I have woods behind paddock . So I’m trying to figure if I should add inside or outside
@cimglider
@cimglider 8 ай бұрын
Loved the video very informative, and I have watched a few. One question what’s your spacing for t posts to wood posts? I noticed as you were walking you had large wood posts.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 7 ай бұрын
On field fence, I space my T post every 10’ for goats and sheep (8’ for cattle), with wood post every 100’ or in a major dip or rise. For high tensile, I space them every 20’, with a wood post only on major dips or rises.
@Jkevinking3
@Jkevinking3 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are always informative and professional. How do you run it from the shop to the fence?
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
An insulated underground wire.
@nexusfg
@nexusfg Жыл бұрын
​@@rollingofarm I would love to see a video of you explaining or actually physically burying the lines. I'm assuming you have one main line going from the Energizer, buried underground to the pastures, and then auxiliary lines connected between this main line and the various fences? This underground network of insulated cable to the various connection points of different fences/pastures on the same property is something that is missing on KZfaq. Your explanations are articulate and cogent, and the fashion in which you conduct your work is similarly efficient. I'd like to see an explanation from you on this deceivingly simple topic; once digging and electricity are involved, things can become a huge complicated pain in the buttocks.
@Odin31b
@Odin31b Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video and so very informative. 1 question..can I connect the system to the grounding rod of a utility pole if I can't get a rod deep enough due to rocky soil?
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
My understanding is you should not use a grounding system for anything else (building, power lines, well, etc). I don’t know all the reasons why.
@davidlane1137
@davidlane1137 8 ай бұрын
Doing this won't work. What is referred to as a ground is actually the return path to the battery or AC source. There is no ground. You either have a positive and negative in the case of DC or a hot and neutral in the case of AC. They are fundamentally the same. They carry the voltage out and then return it to the energiser (Source). I don't know if there is an energiser that puts out AC but if it does I wouldn't use it. Who wants 8000 volts of AC at any amperage in the ground underneath their feet in the case of a fault? Electricity does not "go to ground" it goes back to its source. Don't believe me? Simply disconnect your negative wire at the energiser but leave the rest of your "ground system" intact and test it. I won't work because the electrical circuit is incomplete. The return path although it is initially travelling through the earth will quickly find the least resistant path back to the source (but it uses all paths). This will be via a metal stake or "ground rod" which is connected to the fence(probably) and near the touch point but insulated from the supply side. This is in the case of a "grounded system" but not in the case of a two wire system. Which simplifies the return path by using a separate return path instead of the earth. Note the return path still carries the current, but the voltage will be at zero volts. So the electricity does travel through the earth but only for short distanced until it can hitch a ride on a lower resistance path.
@lfeezor1
@lfeezor1 10 ай бұрын
We don’t yet have LGA but predators are a significant issue here (fox, coyote, and bobcat), so I foresee a dog or donkey coming soon. If using electric netting for rotational grazing and also have a permanent perimeter fence, would you place the LGA inside the netting w/ sheep, or out of the netting but within the larger perimeter? TY!
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 10 ай бұрын
Normally you want the LGD with the sheep. That being said, mine doesn’t stay with them. She patrols the outer paddocks.
@triciahill216
@triciahill216 7 ай бұрын
What high-tensile wire spacing do you recommend for sheep in an area where there is some coyote pressure? Same question if we decide to add goats? Thank you very for your excellent video.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 7 ай бұрын
I use 5 strand. Bottom strand 6-8” off ground Next 6” above bottom strand. 3rd strand 6” above 2nd. 4th strand 8” above 3rd. 5th strand 10” above 4th.
@Rangband1
@Rangband1 Жыл бұрын
That upgraded Power Wizard model looks identical to the Dare DPP 9600 24 joule charger made In Michigan.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Dare is just relabeled, of visa versa?
@Rangband1
@Rangband1 Жыл бұрын
@@rollingofarm had the same thought 😁
@halfwolfl5241
@halfwolfl5241 Жыл бұрын
So I have a 6 foot block wall where neighbor dogs are actually getting up on it and wall walking the top before entering my yard. I was considering a line or two of electric fence centered atop the wall. However, it sounds like the animal must be in contact with the ground to get a good zap. Is there any way for me to get that for animals that wall walk?
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
I would think the current would conduct through the block wall to the ground. If not run two wires close together, one energized and the other grounded. When they touch both, it will get them.
@jimbuford4147
@jimbuford4147 Жыл бұрын
How can you have so many different pastures with having two species? I have Kikos and Savannas and have to keep separated and separated within the species for babies, yearlings, adults and males. ALSO, where do you sell your slaughter animals? Thanks so much
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
I usually run all my goats together (unless I’m trying to keep a pure Kiko herd or pure Boer herd. But usually I have cross breeds), and sometime run goats and sheep together in same pasture. Other than trying to control breeding, I have not found many problems with having everything together. For animals going to slaughter, I have a friend who is a buyer who usually gets them. However there are a couple of larger sales near me that have pretty good market prices.
@alboggs7561
@alboggs7561 Жыл бұрын
Do cattle electric too
@dirtnyaface
@dirtnyaface Жыл бұрын
Would there be any issue with using a charger that’s oversized? ie: 18joule 300mile charger for 2.5miles of wire
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
Not that I’m aware of.
@tomthomas1458
@tomthomas1458 Жыл бұрын
Do you have to do anything special with the running end of the electric fence.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry I don’t fully understand your question.
@alfredoacosta4098
@alfredoacosta4098 Жыл бұрын
What do y’all recommend with sheep? Planning on getting all registered stock would want to know what works best for y’all thanks
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
Electric fencing works great for sheep (better than with goats). Once sheep are trained to it, I can leave mine off for months without them trying to get out.
@microfarmers
@microfarmers Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your information! What state are you in?
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
Alabama
@kylecornelius1115
@kylecornelius1115 Жыл бұрын
I think Cyclops has a higher joule charger. Have you had any experience with the Cyclops brand?
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
I have not had experience with cyclops chargers, but I’ve heard good things about them.
@wolfe5047
@wolfe5047 Жыл бұрын
Adding ground rods are you only putting them close to your charger? Or do you space them out around your fence and run a single wire for ground to the ground rods? Also would using a wire for your ground be a compliment to your ground rods?
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
I’m only putting ground rods close to the charger. What I’ve read is to put them close to charger spaced at least 10’ apart. I don’t know answer about using a wire to compliment ground rods.
@abstrusejay
@abstrusejay Ай бұрын
I just came here just to say that in your thumbnail you look like Red Green.
@jeffreyruiz7274
@jeffreyruiz7274 3 ай бұрын
Hello how far apart are your post and what was your ratio of wooden post to T post
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 3 ай бұрын
Off level ground I run my post 20' apart with a wood post every 5 T-posts. On uneven ground, it varies depending on the dips or crests.
@jeffreyruiz7274
@jeffreyruiz7274 3 ай бұрын
@@rollingofarm thank you
@RoyJemkins
@RoyJemkins 6 ай бұрын
Timeless fence post no insulators
@waldenmathews8059
@waldenmathews8059 18 күн бұрын
No RoundUp! Ever!
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 17 күн бұрын
I’m open to alternatives. But if you have 15 miles of fence, weed eating is not feasible.
@johnypitman2368
@johnypitman2368 2 ай бұрын
is there a risk of weeds touching the electric fence and starting a fire????
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 2 ай бұрын
Usually if the grass is dry enough to burn it will not have enough moisture to conduct a current even if touching the fence. However there can be a danger if the fence is down or shorting so that it is causing a spark that can ignite dry grass.
@rickycarwile3591
@rickycarwile3591 11 ай бұрын
We have had worms in our heard we have lost 4 one we got from you I think we got control of them now there are a few that have a cough is that a issue of the worms or something else
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 11 ай бұрын
I don’t think the cough would be caused by worms (unless it is lung worms, which I’ve never had a problem with). Any snotty noses?
@rickycarwile3591
@rickycarwile3591 11 ай бұрын
@@rollingofarm no snotty noise
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 11 ай бұрын
I don’t usually worry too much about a cough unless there is snotty noses or labored breathing.
@rickycarwile3591
@rickycarwile3591 11 ай бұрын
@rollingofarm OK thanks
@TheClownfight
@TheClownfight 2 ай бұрын
From tenacious horses to dogs, I've found once an animal hits that fence and gets zapped, they never ever cross it again. For people who think it's cruel... All my dogs and horses are safe ony ranch, and my neighbors have lost all kinds of animals to cars and traffic thinking a 1 second shock is too cruel
@charlesstevenson2642
@charlesstevenson2642 6 ай бұрын
is electric fence safe for chickens?
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 6 ай бұрын
Yes. I have electric poultry netting that I keep chickens in. I’ve never had a problem.
@charlesstevenson2642
@charlesstevenson2642 6 ай бұрын
@@rollingofarm Ah, I thought those were lower power. Thx
@alboggs7561
@alboggs7561 Жыл бұрын
Send me the name of the electric fence charger And the address of it please
@radioboyintj
@radioboyintj Жыл бұрын
Don't whiz on the electric fence
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
Nope! You will only do it once.
@radioboyintj
@radioboyintj Жыл бұрын
@@rollingofarm Ren found out
@ursalaminor8457
@ursalaminor8457 4 ай бұрын
So why didn’t you go tell your neighbor their dog was in your pasture and let them come get it?
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 4 ай бұрын
None of us knew it was in there.
@PazLeBon
@PazLeBon 4 ай бұрын
fkn Roundup. seriously? spoiled it with that
@pitman225
@pitman225 Жыл бұрын
Please stop recommending people spray roundup / glyphosate onto their property for any reason. Get out and do the work with a weed eater.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm Жыл бұрын
I understand your concern and you may be correct in your concerns, but weed eating miles and miles of fencing is just not feasible.
@DennisKenneybees
@DennisKenneybees 26 күн бұрын
Please don't waste our time with usless introductions when I already know what the video is about from the title. And we don't need the background noise/music. For those reasons, I was going to give a thumbs down but the video was so informative, you get a tumbs up.
@rollingofarm
@rollingofarm 25 күн бұрын
Thanks the reluctant thumbs up, and I appreciate the feedback. I’ll keep that in mind on future videos.
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