Electric Fleet Vehicle Expo Full Tour! All Of The EVs / Chargers At ACT 2024

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Kyle and Jordan take you on a tour of the companies on display at ACT Expo (Advanced Clean Transportation). It was SO huge this year, we couldn't even feature all the companies in this tour. But if you see a company you're interested in, let us know and we can try to set up some dedicated coverage!
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@brandenflasch Ай бұрын

Thanks for stopping by the Alpitronic booth and having me on! Be sure to play with the configuration tool on our website and make a charger like you could a PTS Porsche! (BTW, we’re hiring too!)

@VictorAtlasman Ай бұрын

I missed you at the show! 😅

@brandenflasch Ай бұрын

@@VictorAtlasman I was a moving target 😅

@JoeDotSolar Ай бұрын

Seeing Brandon on here: what is this? A crossover episode? 😁

@VictorAtlasman Ай бұрын

Thank you @Out of Spec for stopping by WattEV's booth and for having me on. ⚡FULL SEND⚡

@crilako Ай бұрын

So, Victor, what happened to NXU? Did you leave, did they sale the patents to WattEV, did NXU continued to drift off investors to keep their salaries going while selling megawatt patents to WattEV? The WattEV site looks awfully close to what NXU kept advertising they were going to do.

@VictorAtlasman Ай бұрын

@@crilako Hi 👋 Yes I left, as they're "engaged in strategic alternatives". No patents sold or anything related (to my knowledge), as WattEV is focused on higher power charging and deployments focused on the heavy duty market. I'm proud to be a part of the WattEV and Charge America team as there's a lot of development that is going to accelerate MCS beyond what any other company is doing. ⚡I'll try to make some content that's educational and interesting for people to watch. Let me know if there's anything you want to learn or see. 🤔

@crilako Ай бұрын

@@VictorAtlasman you're also a good communicator so I'm glad you're going to produce video content. I think it would be greatto see updates on the site progress and on new WattEV site proyects tha the NEVI is supporting. Thanks!

@Quickicecarreviews123 Ай бұрын

Hell yeah brother

@JimmyKHall Ай бұрын

@@VictorAtlasman As always good at selling BS to investors.

@kevinmeagher6139 Ай бұрын

Thank you for stopping by DG Matrix, that was outstanding

@MarkSpohr Ай бұрын

Amazing to see all the developments in charging

@setch35 Ай бұрын

These walk around videos are really great. 😊

@Lillia-nu2xt Ай бұрын

Your videos are so chill, always brightens my day

@JoseMiguelL Ай бұрын

52:18 Chargepoint's Hugh Jackman

@andreistsiapanau5682 Ай бұрын

That’s true 😂

@phillyphil1513 Ай бұрын

#LOGAN

@Thunderbuck Ай бұрын

I don’t think anyone has a clue yet how revolutionary semi trailers with powered axles will be. It will make the truck safer and more stable on the highway and will all but eliminate chaining up in the mountains.

@4literv6 Ай бұрын

Well said! Allows for additional regen going down steep declines, BMW says over 40% gain in driving efficency on diesels it trialled them with. So ev semis could gain even more especially in mixed use city or traffic driving. Then it could allow for a 300 mile cheaper tesla semi to do 450-500! Opening up new opportunities for those who couldn't spend another 50k+for the top spec semi. Less weight to so more possible cargo carrying. Top tesla semi is 23,000# base is less at 21,000# Also it could push the 500 miler out to near 750-800 miles. Ad built in thin solar to the roof&eliminating diesel reefers=much cleaner quieter cooler air for everyone and cheaper cost of goods moved=cheaper products for consumers! Easier on drivers=win win win.👍🏻😎

@BillyONeal Ай бұрын

Chaining up still matters. Trailers have had brakes forever yet chains are still necessary.

@Thunderbuck Ай бұрын

@@BillyONeal It does, but if ALL of your wheels are helping to propel the truck (and they're all traction-controlled) you'll eliminate most of the instances where you NEED chains. No, maybe not all, but MUCH less often

@BillyONeal Ай бұрын

@Thunderbuck again, all wheels already brake and chains are still needed just for braking. All wheels being powered only helps keep the drive wheels from spinning. Thinking all wheel drive fixes traction completely is an extremely common misconception

@Thunderbuck Ай бұрын

@@BillyONeal With powered axles the motors actively slow the vehicle like a Jake Break x 1000. Unless you’ve actually driven an EV on ice you have no clue how effective it is.

@joshuagreen5820 Ай бұрын

Can’t wait for my utility bucket truck to go electric. The noise alone hits 95 decibels and we work 3 am would be nice to all the people trying to sleep. Then have optimize were the batteries out of the way. Then have where the drive shaft used to be for our 11’ hot sticks and our long shovels for digging deep holes. A Edison Motors type of approach would be okay for me. Diesel while driving and electric while chilling and PTO stuff.

@henryschilling1120 Ай бұрын

Freedom units? You really need to rethink that and if you don’t know what Fluke is turn in your geek card.

@Quickicecarreviews123 Ай бұрын

I know right!! I was like wtf he doesn’t know Fluke lol

@cbotten106 Ай бұрын

@@Quickicecarreviews123 If it works, it's a Fluke. Best slogan ever!

@plumokin5535 Ай бұрын

I was like how do you not know Fluke!? He's out here naming random brands I've never heard of but doesn't recognize one of the biggest ones 😂

@sparkysho-ze7nm Ай бұрын

Yehehe

@jeffandich3894 Ай бұрын

“We’re getting to school real quick today..” Mr. Conner will be providing a Physics lecture/lab on Centripetal force and friction today on the way into school.

@eagle4life69 Ай бұрын

23:36, Ryder provides trucks to companies for a service so the company does not need to manage repairs and service it is all handled by Ryder and they also provide roadside service... So think of it as Fleet as a Service.

@phillyphil1513 Ай бұрын

yup "Truck as a Service" is already a "thing". ref: Ryder, Penske, Bentley, Martin Brower, etc.

@jeffmeyers2106 Ай бұрын

People need to know that a diesel truck polutes 15 times more than an ice car. We need to change as fast as we can.

@pennsylvaniacoachlines_fanpage Ай бұрын

liberal

@ChargePointnet Ай бұрын

So many exciting things happening in electric mobility, thanks for stopping by Kyle! ⚡🧡

@phillyphil1513 Ай бұрын

1:07:48 - that's the Watt EV CEO Salim Youssefzadeh (hopefully i spelled that right) in the white shirt/blue blazer in the background. got to meet with him briefly after his 15 minute presentation around mid-day on Wednesday. says he's got plans for the East Coast, specifically electrifying the Port Newark/NY/NJ (which makes the most sense).

@VictorAtlasman Ай бұрын

That's right! Let me know if there's anything you want to see, or learn about. We'll post some info videos on our page.

@phillyphil1513 Ай бұрын

@@VictorAtlasman re: "Let me know if there's anything you want to see, or learn about." A: Medium Duty Power and those Solid State Transformers you spoke of not to put too fine a point on it...🤙 in the meantime, i'm going to be running that by my contact at the local Utility over in NJ to see what he knows.

@VictorAtlasman Ай бұрын

@@phillyphil1513 You got it. As I head out to the sites and our labs, I'll document and present what I can.

@wizkashifa Ай бұрын

That stop to the Raleigh NC based solution was super fortuitous! I’m Raleigh and in the midst of trying to find the best charging solution for 10+ vehicles in a retail setting and would love to hear what you think is best. Will have to scroll back thru the video to find that name.

@carlomorischi3435 Ай бұрын

Honestly, Alpitronic is so far ahead everyone else, also their reliability is excellent

@s1l3nc3r3 Ай бұрын

The down side of putting the batteries in the trailer like that, is it reduces the max paid load of the trailer due to road weight restrictions. This on one hand will and can be major for shipping long range with items that are fairly light weight. But, the real market for these are for companies that operate retail locations, where they deliver to several locations on each load, but also purposely aim to make 2 sets of runs per shift, allowing them to use the trailers to run the truck and charge it at the same time to prevent/reduce down time for the trucks during business hours.

@rogerstarkey5390 Ай бұрын

Would you want a motor "pushing" a big rig?

@s1l3nc3r3 Ай бұрын

@@rogerstarkey5390 not pushing but powering

@4literv6 Ай бұрын

Except for over 80% of class 8s driven daily are cubed out loadwise and NOT gcw maxed smh. And those batteries and motors are a similar weight to a diesel reefer setup with fuel tank. Plus ev semis get an additional ton of weight.

@phillyphil1513 Ай бұрын

@@rogerstarkey5390 Q: Would you want a motor "pushing" a big rig? A: hell no... TRACTOR JACK-KNIFE IMMINENT...!!! of course this assumes it's not tuned right, but probably best just to disable the system altogether anywhere other than strictly City Driving for deliveries, or stop and go traffic, who knows maybe it already does this...? because once in motion, and the greater the MPH, the "assist" is not really needed anyway (only the regen). also ref: Newton.

@davidmenasco5743 Ай бұрын

A lot of interesting new applications are going to be developed using the new EV and battery technologies. It will be very interesting seeing how things play out. People who want everything to be done the same way forever, are going to get very uncomfortable.

@mp3mike237 Ай бұрын

The "lack of shielding" around the NACS connector, is because that is the 1000V version of the NACS/J3400 connector. (The shielding is only on the 500V version.)

@MegaRetr Ай бұрын

These walk around videos are really awesome))

@Smidge204 Ай бұрын

For V2X, DC out makes more sense since you can get higher power and it takes the cost out of the vehicle and into the optional extra.

@davidmenasco5743 Ай бұрын

It's fascinating that this important point that I've never heard anyone else mention, can be found deep in the middle of this show walk through video, at 27:30. Nice interlude!

@mawi5704 Ай бұрын

Wow, never been so early. Love and support from germany!

@mrmawson2438 Ай бұрын

Hello I'm from the UK

@HeikoElectric Ай бұрын

Alpitronic still the best!

@Zyzzyx42 Ай бұрын

Hooray, HD quality! 😆

@vxnova1 Ай бұрын

“Not sure you should name a company Fluke” they have been around for like 70 years and pretty much gold standard in voltmeters. Every electrician I know has one, So it has served them pretty well

@sunrisejak2709 Ай бұрын

Yep,,, Fluke is to voltmeters, like Coke is to soft drinks, or Kleenex is to tissue. The brand synonymous with market segment.

@henryhill3778 Ай бұрын

Thank YOU out of Spunk! There's so much to see and learn about!!! I can't get over the Crowds Kyle has to fight just to get to talk to the Reps!!! It's so amazing! And yet hardly anyone there? Why aren't people flocking to see this? Why so few people? Why wasn't there the huge interest in the 1890 when EV's FIRST came out?

@atochagv Ай бұрын

"If it works, It's a Fluke!"

@davidmenasco5743 Ай бұрын

Funny they didn't seem to recognize the long standing top name in digital multimeters. Interesting to see that Fluke and even bigger names like Carrier and Ryder and Penske want to be in on this show. It's a sign of the times.

@nathansuss Ай бұрын

@@davidmenasco5743 true lol

@zxyqwerty123 Ай бұрын

Yep, the best test equipment bar none used in Aerospace for decades. Bluntly dismissed by Kyle due lack of knowledge

@atochagv Ай бұрын

Their synthesizers were garbage. HP made a better multimer. Techtronics made a better oscilloscope.

@loriallen67 Ай бұрын

I love these walk around videos. Learning about all the charging options coming, fleet options, etc is fascinating (and beneficial). Keep ‘em coming!!

@deaconstjohn8643 Ай бұрын

Great video, so informative !! Thank you for sharing. Before i knew it , the video was over. Thanks again.

@EVAddicted Ай бұрын

Thanks for the tour. Gives me a more of optimism that finally here in the US things will start taking off in terms of DC charging. Still long way to go to catch up with Europe where in most rest stops there 3-5 different charging networks to choose from!

@PeaceChanel Ай бұрын

Thank You Everybody for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤ 🕊

@jorgecintron9674 Ай бұрын

The ChargePoint guy was the highlight of this video. I busted out laughing when he was like yeah “I don’t even charge my Cybertruck at that level”! lol 😂

@andreistsiapanau5682 Ай бұрын

Great video Kyle, thanks for stopping @chargepoint

@phillyphil1513 Ай бұрын

23:54 - from what i've seen with Kyle's CES coverage, and my own talking with them back at NYAS 2023 (also knowing they are installed down at AMP Georgia) if i were a CPO, Autel equipment would definitely be in my Top 3.

@ThePoolboy789 Ай бұрын

Fluke is probably the most recognized professional industrial test equipment

@cbotten106 Ай бұрын

Yeah, his geek card is in serious jeopardy.

@jarrodf_ Ай бұрын

Great video, guys. Pretty exciting time.

@elvertestaguzza9753 Ай бұрын

Love your videos from Canada 🇨🇦

@falazarte Ай бұрын

Wow. Insane the amount of ev charging companies

@PianoBoy99 Ай бұрын

"I could see it going both ways" when talking about DC vs. AC voltage for bi-directional charging infrastructure. Haha! No matter which way it goes, it will be going both ways. 🙂

@craigtjen9130 Ай бұрын

Thanks so much for the video…I’ve learned so much since joining the Chanel…please keep them coming as this is the future. Just made a long distance trip from Vancouver Canada to Palm Springs in our long range model y 2023 and back up through Carson city to Reno and back…charging went great no problems…one thing they should have in a lot of sits is amenities…ie washrooms coffee shops. We think this is quite lacking Take care and thank again Kyle

@jeffballphoto Ай бұрын

Incredible video!

@louisiglesias9727 Ай бұрын

Great job Kyle!

@aeconsulting1 Ай бұрын

Great video!

@timreha 20 күн бұрын

Great reporting!!!!

@mrmawson2438 Ай бұрын

Cheers guys

@junktionfet Ай бұрын

Very to cool to see a concentration of stuff out of Raleigh and Durham

@georgecox970 Ай бұрын

Valueless content!

@showme360 Ай бұрын

This has been the BEST video I've seen this year. You should of gone for 2 days or more!! I learned SO much right here, love that last take on the WattEV great idea love will be looking to that deployed right here in the UK, as a Cooperative venture with the likes of Ripple Power. I had no idea EV Trucking was taking off at this level in the US, its been a real eye opener. Sharing right now!!

@VictorAtlasman Ай бұрын

We're just scratching the surface on EV Trucks and Charging. Learning as we're going as you really don't know how things will perform until you put the rubber to the road. #WattEV #MCS

@Naultarous Ай бұрын

It's nice to see all the trucks. I really would like to see the next evolution to RV class A's.

@GridConnections Ай бұрын

Great vid! Wish I could have made it this year, but will be there next year for sure!

@GridConnections Ай бұрын

@out_of_Spec If you guys visit DTNA in Portland, let me know and I'll come up and meet you guys!

@urbanstrencan Ай бұрын

Awesome video Kyle and Jordan, love your show walks, to get inside on shows I can't attend. I see great potential in hydrogen for powering big construction machinery, long haul transport, shipping, trains. Keep up with great work 😊❤❤

@johntrotter8678 Ай бұрын

So much STUFF! Thanks for the lightning tour.

@kevroll99 Ай бұрын

The future of electric is coming quick Love it

@ScottBuscemi Ай бұрын

I was really surprised to see a BYD truck making deliveries in LA recently. I've seen the Nikola hydrogen trucks a couple times too.

@RebelRanger2009 Ай бұрын

I thought that was the Circle K unit brand. That is one insane DC Fast Charger! 34:46

@showme360 Ай бұрын

Yep, Fastnet like these chargers as well, we are starting to see them being deployed here in the UK. I think Circle K have done a deal with Sainsbains here in teh UK as well because they share the same colour branding orange.

@celeron55 Ай бұрын

50:36 - Those ABBs can actually be upwards from 150kW these days. Looks almost the same, but the insides are very much upgraded. Take a road trip in Sweden and you'll notice. Of course, lots of the old 50kW ones still being operational also.

@nathansuss Ай бұрын

Fluke: "I'm a joke to you?"

@user--PM Ай бұрын

27:40 I would think that if there is AC onboard already, then AC out makes sense, however if you do not already have the vehicle set up for AC out, then having DC out, where the contactors close as if connected to a DCFC, but instead of charging the HV battery, you discharge it via an external inverter to get AC for V2X. thus you dont have to carry the inverter onboard for V2X compatibility. i realise that some vehicles run the charger in reverse for AC out, but if you use that method, we may only see 1.5kw out in some applications, where if we DC out we can use 50kw with the appropriate inverter, with passively cooled cables in most applications.

@phtofl Ай бұрын

48:02, yes you walked by the International eMV, sitting next to the school bus you sat in. its also 100% electric

@LVRaven610 Ай бұрын

Thanks for another great video! I'm curious about Mack's LR Electric series trucks. I live near the plant in PA and haven't heard or seen anything in quite some time. Garbage trucks seem like a perfect fit for electric... any insights or updates that you are aware of on the Mack?

@graemeesmith 16 күн бұрын

42:11 regarding the openings around the edge of the NACS connectors, I *believe* that's the 1000V NACS port variant which is slightly longer and has those gaps. It's fully backwards compatible though. Looks weird because we're all used to the 500V connectors Tesla runs on all the Superchargers (to date at least).

@ericnewton5720 Ай бұрын

Actually EV school bus is brilliant. Work hard for 2 hours, idle for 4 work hard for 2 hours, charge for 16 hours.

@AAb-xy6et 28 күн бұрын

I like the semi trailer the most actually, when you got that, you safe energy no matter what you drive (Electric, diesel, name it). With solar panels on top of it it would be even more great. Also note that when parking, you don't need the actual semi if you think about it, the trailer got a motor on it's own anyway, parking on hard locations will be more easy as well, since the semi doesn't have to be attached while parking. Also, even if you don't charge it at all, but only use it while breaking regenerative, you still safe fuel.

@foppo101 Ай бұрын

There is a big show today in Harrogate Yorkshire the UK .All Electric.

@pablochacon40 Ай бұрын

I just got back from Oshkosh Wisconsin and there was a broke down electric mail truck getting pushed in the back of a trailer with mail still in the mail truck. I wish I could post the pictures to show them .

@sparkysho-ze7nm Ай бұрын

@ 4 3 : 2 9 fluke has always been a great tester of electricity to many many years

@Ponyo3816 Ай бұрын

Definitely check out Evercharge and their smart power.

@richardjohnson8009 Ай бұрын

its like storing your food in a bunch of tupperware, then as you eat it you need to carry all the tupperware with you until you need to cook for an hour to refill your tupperware, at some point your tupper gets worn and explodes burning you

@aramcobratusa8963 Ай бұрын

I enjoy your videos. Without creating trouble -- do any of the charge delivery systems discuss specifically how all that power gets to the units? These things don't look like they would be OK with residential power supply. Do they need to be with a certain distance from some kind of cross country sized electricity supply?

@djlorenz11 Ай бұрын

1h11m: You just walked through Rocsys, next time stop by to see some cool technology enabling self driving vehicles to charge autonomously!

@Techridr Ай бұрын

Quick jump to Kyle meeting Wolverine 52:13 . Kidding of course, Andrei is the man. He worked at Tesla for about 5 years before Chargepoint

@NONo443 Ай бұрын

It would be nice of more of the coach building rv companies partnered up with the tractor / rv companies for BEV RVs.

@rogerstarkey5390 Ай бұрын

Cost and availability?

@Bud_Terence Ай бұрын

@11:10 Costs and efficiency will always cater towards BEV. Hydrogen in transportation is just for special cases/niche products (like rescue vehicles in earthquake or fire situations, ships, and maby toys for big boys?). For normal usage, BEV are the go-to.

@RTSwiz Ай бұрын

Hydrogen fire trucks seem like a bad idea on face value.

@robertn2951 Ай бұрын

This channel is to EV information what the Pacific Ocean is to swimming pools.

@Carl_in_AZ Ай бұрын

Instead of playing the game Where is Waldo we should play Where is Victor?

@VictorAtlasman Ай бұрын

🤣🤣 He's in the back tinkering on MCS (yes, I'm talking in third person for fun). True MCS and high power is where I live.

@davidmenasco5743 Ай бұрын

Those are some epic elevator pitches. Seems like the EV business has mastered the art. Still, I could turn off the sound on this video and skip past the interviews, and just watching the background visuals as you walk through this show would be the most interesting video on KZfaq. It's a brave new world.

@chrisk853 Ай бұрын

Clean energy has never felt so dirty.

@wasabi521 Ай бұрын

So funny seeing Kyle not know fluke. For reference they are the de facto standard in voltmeters and measurement equipment. Not exactly a player in the ev equipment space but every electrical engineer that works for one of these companies has their gear.

@phtofl Ай бұрын

47:24 in case you were wondering the eRH is the class 8 EV tractor from International. you knew what the eCascadia was but not the eRH!?! ha

@loganferezy5567 Ай бұрын

Did you guys hook up the dc fast charger that you unboxed. Very interested in a update video on that

@jeffs6090 Ай бұрын

There's been a couple of videos on it. They have 2 different ones and are waiting on the installation scheduling and figuring with the school where exactly they will go.

@mattcooper1159 Ай бұрын

“Pipeline pushers” is not the term. It’s “boost compressor” or compressor set. All good.

@dandaigle4546 Ай бұрын

tmi, awesome

@lavectech Ай бұрын

I Feel like DC bidirectional charging would be easier to get grid approval as the inverter is stationary. AC is a lot cheaper to setup though and Tesla went with that so hard call. Does the Tesla power share support 3 phase AC homes to power all circuits?

@Mobile_Dom Ай бұрын

they guy at WattEV looks familiar, wasnt he the face of NXU for a while?

@VictorAtlasman Ай бұрын

😅

@Mobile_Dom Ай бұрын

@@VictorAtlasman I may regret not googling this, but I'm assuming that's you and the answer is yes?

@VictorAtlasman Ай бұрын

@@Mobile_Domyep. Let me know if there's any videos or info I can share on what we're doing here at WattEV and Charge America. You know I love to showcase the most powerful chargers in the world. 💪

@UltramaticOrange Ай бұрын

11:04 Hydrogen in the EV landscape: I've seen video demos of shipping containers fully outfitted with a hydrogen energy production system. A sort of "hydrogen power plant in a box" to put it simply. What I would _love_ to see is a company that drops off one of these units which powers your remote EV charging station. They remotely monitor it and not too differently from a fuel tanker topping up a gas station, when it starts running low on hydrogen, they swap it out with a new box.

@user-bt6zg4eq6r Ай бұрын

FLUKE has been around for decades! A great EE measurement tools company -- a friend worked for them and he loved to show off the FLUKE "drop test" for one of its devices -- literally throwing the test device across the warehouse! Also...please ask EVSE companies / manufacturers how to deal with cable vandals!! We have one station in my area that has been targeted three times so EA is holding off the fourth repair. (EA is now letter customers know if a stations is down for maintenance or vandalism countrywide.)

@Carl_in_AZ Ай бұрын

Pilot needs a truck/passenger vehicle charging station at Wikieup AZ.

@allanmurphy7474 Ай бұрын

It’s all about moving parts. Full electric whether batteries or small cmv powering an electric motor is more efficient and has fewer moving parts. Cheers

@ericsmith768 Ай бұрын

Lots of great technology on display and looks like a bright future but seems like a big lag in getting this implemented and built out. Still dealing with the same 4 to 6 unit EA/EVGo CCS stations scattered about with usually at least one unit not working at every station. Where is all this great stuff out in the wild.

@francoiscarrier8745 Ай бұрын

Isn't there a ferry in Scandinavia that already uses megawatt charging system? Mining, cargo handling, and short-haul ship are ripe for electric treatment.

@quikflag 14 күн бұрын

This feels like CompuServ 1985.

@therealcdnuser Ай бұрын

46:11 my wife drives a school bus and her biggest complaint is the lack of heat in the winter and non-existent air conditioning in summer. School buses are horrible. She can’t wait to transition to an EV bus.

@BenWarren-uv5ds Ай бұрын

Would you recommend a school bus with an LFP battery over an NMC battery if it meant the extra weight of the LFP battery means the passenger count is lowered? Would it be that much better long term?

@atochagv Ай бұрын

Why would you lower the passenger count? Do you need to lower the passenger count on an EV if you put in a bigger (and heavier) battery?

@johnminichielli8957 Ай бұрын

With our biggest states, California, Texas, and Florida already restricting electricity during peak periods, I just wonder where all the electricity is going to come from if the electric transportation movement happens as fast as the government has mandated.

@AWildBard Ай бұрын

Interesting to see Proterra in the background. I guess they are going to continue after their bankruptcy.

@Olddahg Ай бұрын

A harkening back to somewhat old school OOS

@Metal_seer Ай бұрын

Looks like a lot of compannies want to get into the charging business.

@AlexWaardenburg Ай бұрын

I don't think you actually need to standardize if you push AC or DC over V2G since we are switching to NACS. A bidirectional charger that had the inverters would be able to handle anything with the right relays. Or if you know you aren't going to get a car that pushes DC than you can just get a cheap bidirectional charger that doesn't have inverters and save the money. But it's not going to be the end of the world if it's not standardized. Standardized communication and interoperability would be important though.

@DouglasJMark Ай бұрын

Wish I knew you in grade 5! 🤓

@aloroki Ай бұрын

Hydrogen is a storage system with 20% efficiency, I want to see how a hydrogen will be an alternative for a green transformation?

@rogerstarkey5390 Ай бұрын

It won't.

@Harrythehun Ай бұрын

In few instances there will be free or very cheap fossil free electricity and large amounts of water available and need for oxygen and heat (district heating) then hydrogen can be a viable alternative.

@atochagv Ай бұрын

There's some pink hydrogen setups that look like they may be viable.

@rogerstarkey5390 Ай бұрын

@@Harrythehun So you have 2 choices. Spend "x million" on the hydrogen extraction plant (which needs a lot of maintenance) and get probably more oxygen than you need and too much heat at most times of the year, Or Spend the same "x million" on a battery and have 4 times the energy at hand to use for whatever you want, when you want it? . Then I read the comment again... "Cheap, fossil free generation"? Which will be connected to "the grid"? On which there will be 1) Other areas requiring energy, or with spare battery storage Or (for instance) 2) Homes and other buildings which will have "Electricity" servicing the building? So could have "electrical heaters" plugged into those services? . The vast majority of "local district heating" will be some kind of geothermal, so won't need a supplementary supply. . Don't stray from "K.I.S.S" trying to make a bad system relevant.

@rogerstarkey5390 Ай бұрын

@@atochagv It could have polka dots, it still won't be "green".