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Tommy YES!! I found this completely unwatchable. Made it like 3 mins and was out.

I thought it was cameraman nosebreather...

If ain't broke don't reengineer it.

It does make a 2 stroke look like a coal fired steam engine.

The cost is twice the price of the most expensive gas engine. I don't see this coming to market anytime soon. Throw in bidenflation, which is now a recognized word, and this can't be produced the same way that gas engines are. It will be a class thing and by that I mean only the richest ppl who fly can afford it.

@@dickfitswell3437 if you think Biden is responsible for the inflation, then I won't be taking any aviation advice from you 🤣. You are aware that we just spent 4 years with an idiot as president, who literally encouraged the spread of a virus that is destroying "the economy" right? The reality is that we've had it very well for a long time and because of the pandemic, America cannot take advantage of the rest of the world as easily and so our prices are going up. The fact that so many people don't want to work under conditions where they're at risk for catching the virus, isn't helping either. It's not rocket science. The fact that the public markets were doing well prior to the pandemic isn't credit to that president in the same way that the current inflation cannot be credited to the current president. These things take decades to set up play out. Only temporary impacts can be credited to recent activity. Covid-19 isn't temporary or new. Also, twice the price for the motor isn't that big deal considering the difference between being able to restart a motor when you want and not for someone like me that likes getting altitude. For the guys that need more constant power, that price differential may not be worthwhile.

@@dickfitswell3437 where have you been? This has been a thing for years now with a lot of people participating due to the open source of it all. N btw they are now on to their new single prop version the sp140!

You got this same capability on thermic motors.

As in gas engine planes a lot of the noise is from the propellers, not the motor(s).

Why does that matter? Get noise canceling headphones, or ear muffs that insulate your ears from the sound!

I'm reading comments while watching the video and cant hear a word you typed.

It's loud due to the smaller props having to spin faster. But the engines are silent, produce no vibration and, yes, most importantly, the feature you mentioned is a great safety win. Not only will simple electric motors need almost no maintenance, they can come to a full stop and then back to running at a moment's notice. Whenever you feel like it, the props will become stationary, and whenever you need them to give you thrust, they will. You can also make them automatically turn off whenever an obstacle is near. It basically eliminates the very possibility to shred anything.

My thoughts exactly! I'm also wondering how long those batteries would take to charge with the 300 watt solar panel I have on my house bus, anyone know? Cheers

@@bobsinclear9046 Really hard to say without knowing the exact size of the batteries, but went to the OpenPPG website and it recommends to fly with 4, 22 amp hour 22v batteries for optimum performance. If that's the case then at 300 watts you're looking at about 1.5 hours just to charge one of those batteries. Assuming you're getting the full 300 watts the entire time.

@@PalmliX oh ok thanks, so technically 6 hours full Sun would do it, I'd say then a full sunny day should mean in the evening you would have a full charged kit ready for a fly! Awesome!! I've been skydiving for years and wanting to get a ppg now, debating petrol vs electric, this one looks amazing, technology is just getting better each year!!!

@@bobsinclear9046 But in real life it would take 8-12 hours. Unless you live in a very sunny, but not hot area. Also couple more 300W panels is not a big extra cost on top of the paramotor gear. Hopefully some day all paramotors are electric, that would be super cool! :)

I feel like a pizoelectric fabric might produce more power than a solar fabric

With the current efficiency of photovoltaics this is pure fantasy for any time in this decade unless you're riding some kind of lift (in which case you don't need the photovoltaics anyway).

@@DanielArnett maybe some day. They have the solar electric rc planes that will fly all day

Thermalling with a paramotor strapped to the back is a bad idea

@@svetre87 Why?

@@svetre87 Sorry, I'll say more lol. I've been thermalling on paragliders for 30 years and don't see a problem with it, not that I've tried it. I'm just interested in why you think it's not a good idea. Am I missing something?

Hi Peter, I didn't try it either, but there seems to be a consensous in the para-world regarding risks while thermalling with a paramotor. The main Problems are related to wing loading, drag of the Cage and twist rsik. Higher wing loading means worse collapses, drag means smaller angle of attack and Twist is self-explanatory when you have a 30kg backpack :) I don't say it doesn't work, but why go thermalling when you have an engine strapped to your back (which doesn't really help when it's turned off)?

@@svetre87 True! I guess gentle thermals is ok but the transition in rowdy thermals would be tricky. I just live in a place with no mountains nearby and plenty of thermals. Stick to winches lol. It'd probably be not too bad if the batteries were distributed around the harness and the wing was an appropriate size for the all up weight. The cage and prop are probably only 5kg all up and manageable. I can see it happening one day.

I wanna see him do a Matty flip no parachute

That is basically what it is...... the electronics are a bit simpler though.....no gyros, barometer or gps in the fc. The props all turn at the same rpm. The prop layout is a quad-X. It produces about 160 lbs of thrust.

@@10661956 I want one. I could live with a thirty five minute flight time. The pilot would have to learn to balance four propellers to reduce noise and vibration. With two or three swappable battery packs I'm headed out to an open field.

@@10661956 at first I thought it was scary until I realized it didnt need the stabilization bits from a quadcopter. I remembered the early quadcopter opensource FC's and the bugs they sometimes had

'Literally looks like'? As opposed to figuratively looks like? Dick.

Uhm... are you comparing a roof over your head and necessary transportation to free time activity devices?

It needs adjusting but I also think the 4 small props don't put out a lot of thrust until very high RPM

@@FlyHighParamotors yes I saw plenty of thrust..hoping for the day they can make this affordable and efficient enough for 1 hour flights.

From programming RC car motor controllers, I've learnt you can customise the Torque curve of the motors, any way your heart desirers.

@steelmesh with this setup it's about 1 minute of flight time for every 1 lb of battery weight. I owned one of these - 20 lbs of batteries gave me 20 minutes of flight time. And that's with four small inefficient motors. OpenPPG is coming out with a new unit with a single large propeller with 1 hour flight time for a total of 60 lbs. all up weight.

@@DavidPackouz for 7k. Which at that point is as much as a gas powered one. Repairablility? Who knows. Hopefully they sell all parts.

Do you think it will have enough power for acro for you? The 4 props won't get as much thrust as a single (tri/quad) blade. (Not as compact or torque friendly) I'd imagine they'll unroll a higher power unit soon. I'm 300#, so have been speaking to different E-PPG companies to try to find something powerful enough for me.. my favorite so far may be e-glider.com where they aim to optimize for free flight, and the blade collapses to reduce drag. This might be a pretty sweet option if you want to get to altitude on power, then do some acro on glide.. always with power at your finger tips if you decide you need it ;-) (E-glider has some pretty powerful engines available, but they don't pack down like the eppg, and may be a good bit more expensive.)

@@fredrickdakine Keto, because knees and ankles.

@@fredrickdakine You still need a launch for e-glider, ten yrs later, it won't get you into the air from flatland.

@@flightographist that's not accurate.. Even in 2013 people were foot launching e-gliders from fields. Now they have a 15Kw motor.. Should even launch me from a field if I find a big enough field.

@ meh, I have amazing knees and ankles. People who advise overweight people to loose weight annoy me.. That's like telling a smoker or a nail biter "just stop, it's better"... I'm very physically fit (train krav maga), and eat a healthful diet.. But I get night time sweets cravings, and those defeat all my other work.

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why did we abandon that form of juice? (panels on houses are still extremely bulky, no real size reduction since the seventies)

​@@garyjohnson1970 I'm sorry man. I mean no offense, but you are so very wrong and factually ignorant on this subject. About 18 sq ft of solar paneling from 1950's produced roughly 20 watts on a sunny day. That is about 6% efficiency. The number that everyone in the industry fought for that would make it "worth it" money wise was 15% efficiency. That goal was met in 2012. About 18 sq ft of solar paneling from 2019 produces roughly 320 watts on a sunny day. That is about 18.7% efficiency. That's a 1600% improvement! Every year that passes it gets better. If you don't think that it is an eventuality that solar will run everything, then please go have a conversation with Blockbuster Video. I have already seen real flying solar powered rc air planes. Yes, they need an initial boost of energy, but it is only a mater of time.

A solar wing that size would never generate sufficient power to power those motors.

@@haywoodjablome234 I'm sorry man. I mean no offense, but you are so very wrong and factually ignorant on this subject. About 18 sq ft of solar paneling from 1950's produced roughly 20 watts on a sunny day. That is about 6% efficiency. The number that everyone in the industry fought for that would make it "worth it" money wise was 15% efficiency. That goal was met in 2012. About 18 sq ft of solar paneling from 2019 produces roughly 320 watts on a sunny day. That is about 18.7% efficiency. That's a 1600% improvement! Every year that passes it gets better. If you don't think that it is an eventuality that solar will run everything, then please go have a conversation with Blockbuster Video. I have already seen real flying solar powered rc air planes. Yes, they need an initial boost of energy, but it is only a mater of time.

why is this s problem with gas but not electric?

Imagine how much money it will cost to build an electric grid to satisfy the requirements of such a wish!

@@nojtom Imagine the cost of building a network of petrol stations! These new-fangled cars powered by internal combustion engines will never catch on.

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Cashy 1 lmao

@@5BroCorp lol not sure y anything else matters

And whether or not they will explode or burst into fire when your 5000ft in the air!

@@cardcounter21 which is probably more likely on a gasoline setup?

Might be too inefficient - you would have 2 blades trying to chop the same airspace.

@@giggetygoo9823 Actually no. This scenario was rigorously tested in quadcopter design and it was determined to be as or more efficient than an equivalently powered single prop. This would also cancel out the torque.

Use Electric duct fan

I think if they change the prop design they could really bring the noise down. I have a Phantom 3 Std drone and I just bought a Mavic Air 2. Significantly less noise with the new prop design on the Mavic.

@@firstbloood1 Inverter and AC motor would be quieter

@@pdub422 The ESC like an inverter, and the brushless motor not a DC motor, working from 3 phase like an AC motor.

Yep as said above get a single bigger prop and also add more blades. If you could get 6 or more blades it would start to sound more whooshing than whiney.

Like a drone heli? . I’ve seen some nice ones.. I think one is made in Japan , though I might be wrong on location,

damn that's an awesome idea!!!!

maybe a new design for prop is needed. carbon fiber, 3 blade prop.

@@CapApollo, a 3 blade prop is worth a try. Pipistrel, out of Slovenia makes a single motor electric airplane. I can't recall who makes the motor but it's a good design. I would think that same motor could be scaled down for electric PPG. BTW, I also think electric airplanes, like Pipistrel, could support a short hop air-taxi service. A company could swap out battery modules at the airport and quickly get the plane back in the air. They might have to build a number of small regional airports for the shorter flights but I bet there's a market.

I think it's the split leg harness as I could not shift my weight to my butt/thighs, the split leg dose't allow for that movement. I would get it with the regular harness with the seat plate.

James Keane did you ever get it fabricated? I have access to numerous fab shops.

Love the thumb throttle we need one for the gas motors, BUILD ONE :)

Fly High Paramotors I’m on it!

MULLEN AERO Mark I made a number of working prototypes using 3D printing. Lots of little issues but the idea of a thumb throttle simplifies those problems a lot. The trick is reversing the travel of the cable inside a small space, but I have some ideas.

@@jamespkeane all you need to do is use a little turnaround pulley inside the throttle above the attachment point for the cable at the bottom of the plunger.

Normally when you do a forward launch you move forward holding the A's then when the wing is above your head you release the A's and then apply power. So it's no problem to do a forward with the thumb throttle, and it's really easy to use when flying.

The guys at OpenPPG.com offer this kit with the option of the Apco Split Leg harness or the Dudek Power Seat.....or you can use your existing harness. It is strictly up to the buyer. I elected to buy the Apco split leg harness for comfort and the ease of launches and landings. Basically, there is no getting into or out of your seat. My Tornado has a conventional harness with seat. I like both of the harnesses for different reasons. Good observation though. Thanks.

It should have a joystick like a electric handicap wheelchair. You could steer with prop authority. Meaning the left side eases up while the right goes max. Something like that

@@dickfitswell3437 Unfortunately, a joystick would remove all the sensation that your hands are feeling, ie active piloting. You have to be able to feel what the wing is doing through the brake toggles. Even the most sophisticated AI would have a hard time diagnosing, computing, and adjusting, as well as our hands can.

Would it improve the noise?

Independent Rider if you could find or build props like the APC props in model airplanes, yes. The APC props are bent and tapered in a manner that more efficiently cuts through the air and reduces noise as well as improves efficiency by working the motor much less! The tips are very thin and sharp!

he says that it has a 30-40min range @ 10:07 As for flying on three motors, I think it would depend on how the motor failed. In theory you could unplug one and it would still fly, but if you had the prop break on one you would want to stop to prevent further damage. Also by fly im assuming you meant powered flight, you can glide extremely long distances in ideal conditions using up drafts to give you more altitude.

Patrick Fain it’s definitely not a flat top 😂 if you trip, you’re likely to flex the hoop/net into a prop.

The cage is an amazing design and felt sturdy, but you should not be crashing it as the bottom section may gave easily.

30 to 45min Dependent on wing load, rating and style of flying.