I don’t even know if that’s a a twist villain, but yeah tighten was a great character study overall

@@holyhandgrenade5 This video had a pretty liberal definition of what counted as a twist villain, so I figured that Tighten counted.

I don't know if he is a twist villain, but he is great. Also, I love Jonah Hill.

WarriorofLight I think Tighten counts. A plot twist is usually something that changes the direction the story is going. And the biggest loser in Metro City becoming the worst superhero they've ever seen definitely changes the story's direction. But, I will say that Metroman's secretly being alive is a much better plot twist.

I thought his name was titan

My theater too

What is scary though Is I Went to ridgefield high school with a student who i used to a crush on that looked just like Hans 🧐 .

@AT Productions wow. 😮😮😮

I was only in the 7th grade so i was surprised that he was a threat since he shared a song whose title doesn’t make sense but is cute anyway:

I thought Animat hated 2013

Yeh I say half twist villains are actually good and surprising and half is just predictable and bad

@@godnicklol7596 It's a better ratio than most cliched tropes at least.

"That was his mistake!"

@@sarasamaletdin4574 Great film but just a meh villain.

Yep

Both great films

Also, The Incredibles (2004). In that film, the hero lets his fan down for their own safety, and said fan becomes a super-villain whose actions (luring a bunch of superheroes to their deaths with the Omnidroid, successfully shooting down a plane in hopes of killing Mr. Incredible's family, and use the aforementioned Omnidroid to attack random citizens so he can swoop in and "save the day") are completely disproportionate to his motivation.

Two super underrated films

Surfs up was an incredible movie.

Makes sense for Robots because Rodney was shocked of how Bigweld just gave up and let Ratchet take over the company.

Possibly!

Tbh I never think about that or realised that.

…Oh crud. You’re right

Like Sonic.EXE?

@@SonicSmith134 bruh no lol

Those are all Pixar. You have any other ones? It doesn’t necessarily have to be Disney.

I thought he would include the villains in Scooby Doo on zombie island

@@thezman9522 oh definitely and Titan from Megamind

@@thezman9522 I totally forget that Syndrome was a twist villain. And I definitely agree. He's also one of my favorites and is an example of how to do that kind of plotline right.

I’d include mayor bellwether because she got a lot of stuff done

Hey, to be fair… THAT WAS HIS MISTAKE

Why did he even rank Hans at all? There's no real hints than Hans was a villain at all. No teases, no foreshadowing. It was a complete 180 by a character with conflicting motivations, and no character arc. He was one of Disney's biggest Twist villain bombs next to Professor Callahan from Big Hero 6.

He was willing to kill, much more than cruz would even do

@@soulreaver6546 Well technically Cruz tried to leave Miguel trapped in the land of the dead, which would have killed Miguel. But that's beside the point. Cruz had an effective Twist, with hints about the twist beforehand. Coco built up its twist villain. Frozen did not. There was nothing suggesting Hans was a villain all along. It's like they completely switched him out with a different character with confusing motivations.

@@DeanRocks-kr7wv uuuuuuuuuuuugghhh

@AT Productions never thought of that...

@@WolfmanArt Neither did I.

At least he mentioned it in Animation Lookback.

That wasn’t the first time Pixar jabbed at Universal. The first time was in The Incredibles with the super, Universal Man, being the first victim of Operation Kronos. Universal Man is named after Walt’s former workplace where he made his first cartoon star and lost it to Mintz. Pixar actually discovered this and wrote the script to mock Universal. And that was before Disney took Oswald The Lucky Rabbit back.

@@richieosborn2639 Really?

This guy gets it.

@Mekhi Fox Loud It's as the wolf and squirrel once said, NEVER TRUST A BUNNY

I agree, mostly because I grew up with that movie

@Mekhi Fox Loud I agree with that too

Hood winked

Kon is a treasure we lost way too soon

@@ForrestFox626 I recently found an anthology of his short manga, it became available in my country this year. It's kinda funny how he seemed to experience a baseball phase ;) But for me, one of the most important parts of this anthology is the interview with one of the people who worked so often with Satoshi Kon - Susumu Hirasawa. It's so sad when he talks about Kon's final weeks...

@@FaultyGear9 Aw

Oh yeah

To be fair, the staff on Coco have revealed that it doesn’t have to be biological family member to give a blessing. Friends that are loved like a family member can give their blessing as well, it’s just that the feelings for the loved one must be genuine. And considering Ernesto just saw Miguel as a disposable vehicle to keep his murder a secret, the petal didn’t glow.

@@hunterolaughlin hmmm. Good point.🤔

Exactly. What makes Ernesto stand out compared to other twist villains is that, in a way, he has succeeded in his goal. He has already poisoned Héctor and became famous for his partner’s music, so he doesn’t really have to do much other than silence those who know the truth. I also love the irony in his defeat. He’s still famous, but not in a way that shows adoration. He still has what he wished for, but since he treated Héctor, Miguel, and their family with hostility, the people now do the same.

@@hashtagcritical8688 And having a fate crueler than the Final Death, being denied access to the marigold bridge and also being denied the Final Death since like you said, he’s famous for killing Hector and stealing his songs.

Oh, sure... if you ignore the fact he tried to kill a child (a child he'd believed was his own grandson mere hours beforehand, I might add,) to retain his fame post-mortem, and did everything he could to ensure a man he murdered was silenced, discredited and forgotten (even in the afterlife.) A murder/cover up which, btw, resulted in the victim's beloved wife - and generations of his family after - shunning him and everything he stood for, until La Cruiz's actions were exposed to the public years later. TL:DR - He took everything from a man he was suppose to be good friends with - including Hector's life, love, family and even nearly succeeded in ending the very memory of his existence. All for his own petty self-interest, and desire for fame no less. That's pretty bad, if you ask me.

Mr. Waternoose: “Sullivan. Unfortunately I’m going to have to leave you and your friend in the Himalayas to die.” Sully: “But... but, sir!” Mr. Waternoose: “It’s nothing personal. It’s just business. Undercover business!” Like if you understand which Animated film I’m referencing with this dialogue since it’s nearly similar to the one in the actual film I’m referencing.

@@hunterolaughlin yup, you’re right, he and lord business from the lego movie are similar, except business was already evil from the beginning. But still, that dialogue works for waternoose.

First time I hear heard the songs were issue for some. Olaf is both loved or hated. And Hans had gotten critique too but I really like him as a character and to fit the movie and the brand as a twist.

If only it had made sense. Like, you don't get a kingdom just because the queen and princess dies..that isn't how kingdoms work...if he had married either Elsa or Anna...but him just being told verbally by the now dead princess that he was in charge would't mean he would become the king... There is also the fact he literally saved Elsa's life..why? If he was planning on killing her anyway? Did he expect getting her remove the winter would win over the people? why not just let her die then he was the one that went on the expedition so he would have gotten the honour anyway.. So many things that just don't make sense.

@@bibbobella Disney originally planned Elsa to be the villain and Let it go has going to be a villain Song, but because the writers loved the song they changed Elsa into a tragic hero and the story was rewritten allover again, but that caused new problems. The reason why Elsa's ice powers are not explained is because the writers thought it be too overcomplicated for the kids to understand. If that's the case then how is changing Elsa from a villain to a hero a good idea again, because so far the story is a mess????

Villains like Hans are actually very good at teaching younger viewers to exercise more caution with who they trust. Because even seemingly nice, charming people might be using a facade to hide their true intentions.

No, people hate Hans for numerous reasons, one of which is that he's, to put this bluntly, a shitty twist villain. For one the twist happens so late in the film that any development of his character and motivations is nonexistent. Secondly the more you think about it, he's a complete dumbass. He went through the effort to fake his relationship with Anna to get the throne of Arendelle, only to *reveal his whole scheme to her face* and then proceeds to leave her alone *BEFORE* she died. If anyone came across her like a maid or if she managed to write a note detailing what he did, his plans would have fallen apart. Give Ernesto some credit here, he made sure that Hector died before stealing his songs and done so in a way where Hector wouldn't have known that he was responsible. What Hans did was completely unnecessary and outright counterintuitive to his goals. He could've easily continued feigning innocence, if his kissing Anna didn't work, he could've easily rationalized it that even if they loved each other, that they simply didn't know each other long enough for it to truly count as true love. If he did this then he could've gotten Anna to publicly declare him king of Arendelle before she dies, since him just telling others that she did with no proof wouldn't fly and further investigation would've gotten him caught. This way once Anna died, he could easily claim that Elsa murdered her and gotten her executed, thus fulfilling his goals in a way he could get away with. Honestly, I think Ernesto deserves to be placed higher than Hans since his actual character was more developed, he feigned innocence for as long as possible, which shows more cunning and he was an effective villain who didn't clutch onto the idiot ball like a moron. He was frankly the twist villain that Hans should have been.

My only problem with Hans is the Rowboat scene when he fell in water and came out with a nice smile when he wax alone I know it was to trick the audiance but it would been better if we saw from another angel or if they changed the scene after he fell in the water,he was not bad asa villian but it was stupid of him to ignore the kiss and just go for kill the sisters by letting one die slowly and the other to kill with his sword. For me it would been better if they did the kiss and nothing happen and Anna realise that Hans does not truly loves her but he does not know it himself because his true love is to rule the county, so with a failed kiss he tells Anna it looks like the only way to get the summer back is to kill Elsa beacuse that is what think would work, sure Anna would tried to stop him but because she was weak she would fail and before Hans lock Anna in the room he would told he is sorry and he does love her. Rest of the movie goes how it did, but the Anna punching Hans would be more satisfied instead. But this is just my reason.

@@ryancarson6962 some might disagree with me but I would have replaced Hans with assistant mayor bellwether from zootopia here’s why 1 there was a small hint a little after judys press conference when she told Judy you did perfect 2 her plan almost worked with Hans he did nothing as a villain but with bellwether everything happened because of bellwether she planned everything almost perfectly if Judy didn’t find about the night howler flowers bellwether would have won she was literally a wolf in sheep’s clothing

In said book, it details Hans' brutal childhood where he suffered abuse from his 12 older brothers except for one due to being the youngest and his father who despises weakness, sees his eldest sons bullying Hans as a sign of their strength, to the point of refusing to acknowledge Hans' presence during family gatherings. The cruel treatment and the king's favoritism towards his brothers were the main factors for Hans' sociopathic behavior in the film

You know whats ironic: both movies were released the same year

@@AngelicaRamirez-ti6wi that is eerie.

That is depressing and creepy

@@ForrestFox626 the movie draws many parallels to many famous stalking cases, like Jodie Foster, Bjork, Rebecca Schaefer, Selena, and so on.

@@KaeMcSpadden yeah And Christina Grimmie .

Noted, I only watched it once and immediately made me think "and I thought Christopher Nolab's movies were confusing."

Rumi is terrifying

@@erichfiedler1481 Satoshi Kon Is A Genius Of Making Audience Think So Hard

I think my favorite anime scene in general is that chase scene in the end, especially the part where she seems to be daintily skipping with a serene expression but is actually running at a full maniacal sprint in the mirror.

It’s one of those movies where you notice new things the more you rewatch it, like how unhealthy Rumi’s behavior is.

Exactly at least we do know his motivations.

​@@fuckalldisneyremakesorigin5560 He's a unique kind of twist villain. With Ernesto, we see him as a charismatic mentor. We know Hal is kind of a cringe simp, but then he turns full on nihilistic incel mode after he gets his powers. It's refreshing how the transition of our perception of him isn't going from good to bad, it's going from bad to outright disturbing.

THAT WAS HIS MISTAKE!!!

That movie that shall not be named and doesn't exist in Ba Sing Se was M. Night's mistake!

FoodFight fails at anything and everything...except maybe the soundtrack.

predictable? he literally gets recognized straight away and gru says "if anyone has the serum, it's him" it's not really a twist villain, it's really that the movie suggests there could be a twist villain that isn't this obvious "Evil guy" but then reveals that illumination is just not that smart

I hate el macho thanks to scaring me with what he did to the minions I know it’s a cartoon but I had to close my eyes watching the video until #9 that’s how much I was traumatized

@@healingalternatives3254 lmfao kid actually got scared by grape-flavored minions

Yeah it’s pathetic >.

@@waffler-yz3gw I mean, I kinda get it.

Yeah, I think it was clear from the start that Judge Doom was the villain. I say the real twist was that he was the man (or in this case toon) who killed Eddie’s brother.

It's "beldam" Not "bedlam"

yea

@@alexaforgionedisneygirl13423 R.I.P Ned Beatty

Fun fact: the two are voiced by the same person

Sometimes

Yes I know that!

Just like the Spanish Inquisition

@@possums154 How else do you explain why he used that clip at the very start?

@@MovieFan1912 yea I was referencing that lol

Same lol

First of all, I haven’t seen that movie, (yet), so I don’t know exactly what you’re talking about. Secondly, wasn’t that a made for TV movie? All the movies on this list were theatrically released.

I'd like to see a "Top 10 OTHER Disney Villain Songs" list

@@danielhawkins2402 Same

Love your PFP! I miss watching Hong Kong Fooey on the tv.

@@CreativeCreatorCreates The show's still out on DVD

@@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 I will check it out, thank you :)

Isn’t he technically just an alternate future version of Emmet?

@@arbytv5139 Yes but he is still the villain in Lego Movie 2 and the fact he’s the future version of Emmet makes it a better twist because I bet NO ONE would have expected EMMET to be the villain in the 2nd movie. Honestly before it was even revealed that Rex was Emmet I didn’t really expect him though looking back at it , it was kind of obvious. However I never would have guessed that he was actually Emmet. Yes I did notice that they did look kind of similar but honestly when first I thought he was going to be revealed as Emmet’s brother actually.

I think I was spoiled to Rex being the villain sometime before I got to watch The Lego Movie 2, but the reveal of his identity was still able to shock me! And here I am, thinking that he was just going to be a huge joke about Chris Pratt’s career!

He was kind of predictable to be the villian but the twist with him being Emmet from the future was a good twist since no one thought that time travel would be involved.

How is that clever? Or are you joking?

I’m not sure I would say clever, but it’s certainly…different.

That was a no-brainer!

DUN, DUN, DDDUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!

I don't think he makes the list because he was revealed a bit before the second half official started

I don’t really consider Syndrome a twist villain only because him being a villain isn’t really meant as a twist. Instead, it’s due to the fact that Incrediboy/Buddy *became* a villain as a result of Mr. Incredible’s actions. The twist doesn’t really hinge on him being a villain, but the fact that even a superhero’s idol can end up becoming their greatest nemesis.

For me it was the spiderman cartoons

Oh no you mentioned the funny mistake line

@@maxlolbits2182 Kind of had to.

Evelon Deavor: so much for not being not as good as Syndrome Commander Lyle Tiberius Rourke: guess that’s because my foreshadowing is TOO obvious Titan: leaving me off the list made a fool out of me! Syndrome (angry): NOO!! Clayton: don’t make me catch one of the villains in order to be in this list

That son of a GLITCH!

Big macs gone turbo

I thought for a moment you meant that snail

Unlike Turbo the movie, the movie with the least Turbo Tastic twist villain of all time

@@fuwu9904 yep you've gone turbo

@@hollowvolocaloid6062 wha?

Exactly.

Thank you

I like #4.

Ironically, as much as we want to forget Ernesto, he’s still going to be remembered in the film as the fraud who stole Hector’s songs and murdered him to get fame for those aforementioned songs and by Pixar fans as one of the best Pixar animated villains from the 2010 decade.

@@hunterolaughlin I was only quoting his grave at the end of the movie

@@JoshuaOrro-MustangPrinceOR-YTB I know. I’m just stating the irony of people in the film wanting to forget Ernesto when they’re still gonna remember him for murdering Hector and stealing his songs.

Also they didn’t immediately jump into marriage

But for me personally speaking, it is not enough. it is not CLOSE.

It depends on the execution really.

Yeah people forget that a good twist villain is about subtle foreshadowing, not straight-up having the villain act perfectly normally and then suddenly being bad with no clues. It's supposed to surprise you the first time you see it, but provide re-watch value when you go back and notice the hints. Turbo is a great example of this foreshadowing where you just think King Candy is quirky at first, then realize he's nervously covering up what he's done. The fact that he's the _villain_ isn't a secret (which is there from the beginning), the secret is the fact that he's genuinely merciless and a malicious invader rather than being a funny clown. Whereas Hans just acts like a regular guy and then is suddenly the villain at the last minute.

@@fishdude2954 you make sense. We really need great twist villains in movies or shows. Like that sheep lady from zootopia. That's really all I got.

@@fishdude2954 Disney originally planned Elsa to be the villain and Let it go has going to be a villain Song, but because the writers loved the song they changed Elsa into a tragic hero and the story was rewritten allover again, but that caused new problems. The reason why Elsa's ice powers are not explained is because the writers thought it be too overcomplicated for the kids to understand. If that's the case then how is changing Elsa from a villain to a hero a good idea again, because so far the story is a mess????

Wow who would have known (other than you)

@@claireglover1391 anyone who saw the behind them scenes...lol

Actually, if you go back and pay close attention to certain lyrics and moments in the duet “Love Is An Open Door”, there are a few subtle hints about his plan to take over Arandelle through having a fake romantic relationship with Anna. Lyrics such as “I’ve been searching my whole life for my own place” and this moment: Anna: “It’s crazy”, Hans: “That we finish each other’s...”, Anna: “Sandwiches!”, Hans: “.....That’s what I was gonna say!” If you look closely at Han’s movements when he’s dancing with Anna, he seems to be having a hard time keeping up with her movements, almost like he’s mimicking them. So it isn’t out of nowhere.

Well Elsa was supposed to be the villain and the people behind the film decided to make Hans the twist villain instead at the last minute hence why it felt rushed. Even though I hated Frozen, I honestly would have wanted Elsa to be the villain instead.

@@Kaiju_Queen94 I honestly hate Frozen also. Everytime it's brought up as the greatest Disney film of all time, it just makes me cringe. Anyways, I agree with you Makayla, I feel the movie would've been a lot better if Elsa was the Villain

@@Kaiju_Queen94 *sigh* You people always want Elsa as the villain. Disney already has an ice themed villain with the White Witch from The Chronicles of Narnia that was inspired by the Snow Queen from the original fairytale. So, we have something close to a Snow Queen villain. I have a better idea for Frozen, how about no villains at all. Elsa and Hans are not villains, instead Elsa’s fears of society seeing her as a monster for her ice powers and hurting her sister are the metaphorical villain of the story. Also, there are already plenty of animated films with no villains such as “The Fox and the Hound”, “Finding Nemo” and “Finding Dory”, “Madagascar”, “The Peanuts Movie”, etc. Even the recent Pixar films don’t have villains such as “Onward” and “Soul”. Also, from looking at the trailers, it looks like “Luca” won’t have any villains. Point is, not every animated film needs a villain and some characters should be left as they are.

@@JoshuaVideoStudios Disney originally planned Elsa to be the villain and Let it go has going to be a villain Song, but because the writers loved the song they changed Elsa into a tragic hero and the story was rewritten allover again, but that caused new problems. The reason why Elsa's ice powers are not explained is because the writers thought it be too overcomplicated for the kids to understand. If that's the case then how is changing Elsa from a villain to a hero a good idea again, because so far the story is a mess????

I agree with you, Lots-o-Huggin' Bear should have been in this list, not Hans.

@@madsceptictrooper6803 Or at the very least a tie between him and Waternoose. Mat has his preferences but honestly Hans was a very weak twist villain. He's more like a mentally abusive boyfriend than anything else. Lotso, on the other hand, is a great twist villain not only because he's abusive for the sake of it but his actions are caused by a traumatic dark past that gave him a " if I can't be happy, no one else can" mindset. Though you do sympathize with him for a while, anything redeemable about him is completely thrown out the window when his fear of being abandoned consumed him and his cruelty is amplified. Which makes you wonder: given his backstory, did he really loved Daisy or just the attention she gave him?

@@williehampton3855 Not only that, but gives the biggest ‘eff you of the century to the toys where even after saving him, when it comes time to save them in return, he instead ditches them and leaves them for dead. Which just proves how selfish and heartless he is, where he’ll still only look out for himself even to those who’ve shown kindness to him. And they definitely would’ve been destroyed in the incinerator if the Aliens hadn’t come in the nick of time.

@@amirgarcia547 Exactly. That moment where they were inches away from being burned alive and about to accept their fate just made the scene both intensely heartbreaking and satisfying when they were saved at the last minute by the claw. So I'm glad Lotso didn't returned the favor to save them because it wasn't meant for him to. The aliens were the real heroes in that scene.

@ MadscepticTrooper Disagree, Lordi was just another version of Pete the prospector. But more predictable. Even if he was more sociopathic and dangerous, he was also less complex and sympathetic. Hans was very unique and charismatic and it made some perfect thematic sense to have him as the villain.

I mean maybe in his game but maybe those two could technically beat him in a all out race

I like Evelyn however I think Syndrome was done much better

Disney originally planned Elsa to be the villain and Let it go has going to be a villain Song, but because the writers loved the song they changed Elsa into a tragic hero and the story was rewritten allover again, but that caused new problems. The reason why Elsa's ice powers are not explained is because the writers thought it be too overcomplicated for the kids to understand. If that's the case then how is changing Elsa from a villain to a hero a good idea again, because so far the story is a mess????

you spoiled it, goddamnit lol

@@puppetstudiosstudios NO I didn't

@@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 lol

@@puppetstudiosstudios What?

@@thefantasticretroreviewer3941 you ruined the joke at the end :/