After the world found petroleum, all interest in other energy sources for EVERYTHING pretty much ended. Battery technology was stagnant for decades and decades. As a kid in the 70s that blew through Alkaline batteries as fast as a box of Froot Loops, I welcome batteries with 1000 w/hr densities, that charge in 30 seconds, and cost .45 cents. That way I can watch reruns of Thundarr the Barbarian and Sigmond and the Sea Monsters on my new iPad years from now, for weeks at a time, without recharging! That was my dream as a child, and it is still near to my heart.
@svr5423Ай бұрын
battery technology has evolved quite a bit. from lead acid to lead gel, nickel cadmium, nickel metal hydride and now lithium ion / polymer. Nuclear and renewable powerplants have also been a staple since decades. And houses no longer rely on fossil fuels as energy source.
@Michaels1tooАй бұрын
Sigmond and the Sea Monsters Loved that show lol
@pruephillip1338Ай бұрын
90% cheaper? Ok, believe it when we see it.
@chadcoady9025Ай бұрын
Sounds like a promise Elon would make, then actually INCREASE the price.
@remix-yy1hsАй бұрын
@@chadcoady9025china is not lying zionist. China does bot go around and white wash genocide
@coolewily8185Ай бұрын
2027 byd
@MyUniversalUniversityАй бұрын
Not Elon, but every other battery that is on the market. As the person said when I see it.
@manuelferreira4622Ай бұрын
@@coolewily8185
@lagmonster7789Ай бұрын
One HUGE factor in wanting to use Sulfur is that it's a waste product from Hydrodesulfurization in gasoline refining(which uses Cobalt as a catalyst btw). There's enormous stockpiles of the stuff available and tons more being made everyday, because _fossil fuel industry_ 😅
@fredbloggs5902Ай бұрын
Correct, but when that source dries up there’s no shortage, it’s the fifth most common element by mass on Earth.
@jkn6644Ай бұрын
High energy density of sulfur batteries has been known long. Unfortunately degradation is too fast for practical use. If somebody solves that then sulfur batteries will take over.
@ariisaac5111Ай бұрын
@@jkn6644 Do the sulfur batteries you're talking about Include Lithium cathodes Or What other metal?
@robocowone464Ай бұрын
But if you destroy the fossil fuel industry, it becomes rare and more expensive!!!
@fredbloggs5902Ай бұрын
@@robocowone464 There’s NO shortage of sulphur regardless of it being a byproduct of the fossil fuel industry, go look it up and see for yourself.
@halko1Ай бұрын
There are so many optimistic "news" reports about battery technologies that, for a layman, it can be difficult to discern what is real and what is just unfounded hype.
@icosthop9998Ай бұрын
Ever since I've been on this channel, I been hearing about this "battery" and that *_"Game Changing Battery"_* and yet not one of these batteries are yet to be put into production, so until "iT" actually happens. These announcements are just cheap sounds that are just pissing in the wind. . *_"_**_#Quantum_**_ Batteries Anyone"_* ? 🤷🏼♀️❔️ ~○~
@tomh1727Ай бұрын
I mean, just look at the cost of batteries over the past 15 years. We had a ton of 80% cost decreases already and its still a somewhat new technology
@Alarix246Ай бұрын
Your comment can become a topic of another video. There's so much to analyze here! The first thing to realize is that the feverish gold rush on EVs produced these often fantastic sounding discoveries. It's a bonanza. And now imagine that in this environment you want to develop one certain way of producing these innovated batteries: yes you can build a large factory for this technology, the equipment will all have to be developed with high cost of course, you plan for the equipment to be amortized over 10 years, and at the moment when the production starts, there is another invention 5x better! This of course robs your factory of the possibility to have the equipment amortized over 10 years, as it is obsolete at the moment when a competing 5x better invention hits the market. So, not all of these inventions will be realized of course. At the same time, thinking about the economic forces behind factory production is one thing, but quite another is comparison to ICE engines and their rate of progress: if any of the ICE engine manufacturers improves efficiency or price over the current best benchmark by more than a single %, it would be world news. I just saw (on this channel) a video titled that Mercedes Benz is investing $15billion into their new ICE engine! What improvement % they expect out of this? They must be lunatics. That industry is dead in the water now, and people saying that EVs are expensive are simply repeating old news, while we are watching their price going under the price of comparable ICE cars. But it takes a few years before this sinks into the minds of majority people who are not interested in these revolutionary developments. They probable digest this information only when the aircrafts they travel with will be run by batteries, and that is still some years away.
@user-jt4fy4od9rАй бұрын
Never mind solid state - One thing is true - there are mass produced affordable vehicles in China (and they are very good high-tech items) that run on Sodium (salt) batteries. We in the West are being fed a diet of made-up stuff and drivel by the legacy auto funded media.
@carrievh8686Ай бұрын
A lot of the news is not necessarily hype, it is that the news is about a result in university. The result in the university is real, but usually there is a long lag between a university lab and mass production--more than a decade generally--to solve the issues with mass production and to control costs for commercialization. The result: By the time these miracle technologies make it into a product, it is no longer new and hyped--something else is making the news--, making real technology that significantly improve products seem like hype when they are perfectly real.
@hongqingxiang3374Ай бұрын
Thank you for your update🙏
@georgepelton5645Ай бұрын
CATL named their new battery the "Condensed Matter" battery, later shortened to just "Condensed." Condensed Matter Physics is the modern name for Solid State Physics, which enabled the invention of the transistor. IMO, battery companies using names like "solid state" or "condensed matter" are just trying to make solid electrolytes sound as revolutionary as the transistor was. Pure marketing hype.
@magnetospinАй бұрын
Wouldn't they be as revolutionary as the transistor?
@ronfarnsworth7074Ай бұрын
@@georgepelton5645 What would you call solid electrolyte? Most people except us oldies don't remember when 6 transistor radios came out in the 50's.
@vlhc4642Ай бұрын
CATL does not consider their condensed battery solid state and explicitly said solid state is still a few years away.
@georgepelton5645Ай бұрын
@@ronfarnsworth7074 I refer to them as “solid electrolyte batteries”
@georgepelton5645Ай бұрын
@@magnetospin No. Not by a long shot in my opinion.
@davidrowewtl6811Ай бұрын
I've hit peak solid state news and peak Electric Viking. False hope is so draining. Gotta get out of this hype cycle.
@xyorkАй бұрын
Yes, finally I have seen the light too. Bye all.
@smiith7996Ай бұрын
Never subscribed to him He's a spammer.
@lordofsevenrealmsАй бұрын
@smiith7996 off late, he's ridiculously anoying...he's like a child obsessed with anything related to electric energy and will do a video on whatever electric garbage news he comes across...that solar sphere was low point
@davidrowewtl6811Ай бұрын
@@smiith7996 There is a fine line between news aggregator and spammer. I want more added value beyond regurgitation of press releases. I feel a need for better quality over quantity. I don't mean more B Roll either.
@jamesvandamme7786Ай бұрын
@@davidrowewtl6811 I think he's slightly over the line on aggregator, so I keep watching because they're interesting. Well, I play his videos 1.75X with the captions on. A good counter to Scotty Kilmer who spends 5 minutes of every video ranting against EVs.
@christopherj2231Ай бұрын
How many cycles?...that is the question.
@svr5423Ай бұрын
that's a sexist thing to ask :)
@hanswitvliet8188Ай бұрын
Great. Having to replace the battery when your between Mars and Jupiter 🤣
@user-yi8uu1du3bАй бұрын
there's always ............ re 😁
@thereissomecoolstuffАй бұрын
13 cycles.
@hanswitvliet8188Ай бұрын
Bi-cycles. 😂
@dougowtАй бұрын
As you say, we'll see in a few years if this makes it to production. As CATL have what sounds like a great product already in production, and the likes of Toyota keep making promises that they have for the best part of a decade, failed to deliver, while also claiming hydrogen is the future, then I'll go with CATL, when it comes to banking on genuine progress. CATL keep delivering. As a side note, I am still enjoying my 8 year old Model S (262,000 mile). I'd like to think that if I keep hold of it, then at some point in the future (2-5 years?), I will have the option to buy a replacement battery that weighs less, goes further and charges faster. Effectively giving my car a new lease of life. I realise this would also need either Tesla or an independent supplier, giving the car the relevant software update to run the new battery, but it should be doable.
@steveclancy7832Ай бұрын
HALLELUJAH ANOTHER GAME CHANGER and with all this cost slashing soon they will be paying us to take these batteries ! Go figure
@smiith7996Ай бұрын
I like your sarcasm. He's a propagandist
@steveclancy7832Ай бұрын
@@smiith7996 Sam is a ev evangelist lol
@user-yh6xf3wl1hАй бұрын
There are so many game changers on this channel that I think he has forgotten what game he is playing!
@GaminGigaАй бұрын
Battery technology is like graphene, always promising but always in lab.
@DeveloperChrisАй бұрын
Its not just the cost. solid state batteries so far have a very short cycle life.
@jordons7963Ай бұрын
Yeah, they need to increase it a lot to be worth while. As yes it has better density and cost less. But if it has to be replace many times vs normal battery pack. It terrible
@dougtheslug6435Ай бұрын
Where do you get that information? I looked it up and they last 30 years, there may be degradation over the years but isn't it the same with a gas engine. There a million junkyards half full of blown up cars and trucks that had their engines fail.
@ronfarnsworth7074Ай бұрын
@@dougtheslug6435Amazing how the naysayers and trolls and uneducated ignore reality.
@mikewallace8087Ай бұрын
@@ronfarnsworth7074 There are Seven EV Junkyards in the Chicago area .
@mikewallace8087Ай бұрын
@@dougtheslug6435 But what about ICE powered cars? 230,000,000 on the road.
@1e2werks15Ай бұрын
Sam, have you seen the news on the Sakuu battery? Munro is super impressed.
Solid state batteries may not really be needed in EVs, but they are probably a game changer in aviation.
@4literv6Ай бұрын
Uh semi solid state cells already can cut off 30% or more in pack weight alone. Example welion semi solid state cells in the nio et7 150kwh pack weighs a mere 44# more than the catl nmc 100kwh pack does for the same size case going in the same vehicle! So 50% more capacity for a pack level energy density gain of over 43% And a weight gain of 44# or about 20kgs. 😎 Imagine the tesla semi with it's 915kwh pack weighing nearly 9,000# dropping down to 6,000# for the same useable pack capacity. Or a tesla model S or X plaid dropping 350-450# off it's pack weight which would reduce the cars total weight by 6-9% A model 3 perf could go from 4,050# down to about 3,700 with a semi solid state pack! A base m3 rwd could drop down to 3,500# 😎
@svr5423Ай бұрын
aviation typically uses lead acid or lead gel batteries. Works quite well.
@KidHorn7001Ай бұрын
Once they can make them in scale at a low cost, everything will use them. Why would you use a liquid battery?
@incognitotorpedo42Ай бұрын
@@svr5423 Maybe to power accessories, but not to lift the plane. The energy density of lead acid is horrifically bad.
@svr5423Ай бұрын
@@incognitotorpedo42 reliability is more important than energy density. Lift is provided by the wings, power to the engine is usually provided by avgas, mogas or jet a1 fuel. There are some battery planes for training, but these are not really viable for anything else as they lack the capacity for a mandatory reserve (if you can go 1 hour and need 45min reserve, you aren't really going anywhere in those 15min).
@i3looi2Ай бұрын
I'm very chill. Whether is the Chinese or anyone else, battery prices will drop non the less. Economics 101: where there's demand and lots of money, there's a way. In 5years max, everyone can stop talking about range and charge speeds.
@transmitterguy478Ай бұрын
Bigger, higher capacity batteries, The USA still doesn't have the grid to charge them. It will take 50 years and 3 trillion dollars to make it work.
@hoffingerАй бұрын
@@transmitterguy478smaller batteries with high capacity will mean less weight and more efficiency.
@loktom406825 күн бұрын
It really depends on your elected donkey 🫏 cons to feed the bargain to you.
@MrPropanePete20 күн бұрын
@@hoffinger Don’t hold your breath waiting. The first battery that actually worked reasonably well was made in 1800 so we’ve had 224 years of battery development to get to where we are now. To match the average ICE car range and “fill up” time and keep a replacement battery price around $12K to $15K USD will take some decades yet.
@paul1979uk2000Ай бұрын
China is playing the US at its own game, basically, by the US trying to restrict what can and can't be imported into the US, China is getting around that by being a lot more aggressive on pricing, this is a big deal because the world is a big market that a lot of it doesn't follow the US vision on China. It also means that if the US does restrict products from China that are a lot cheaper, that's giving the advantage to countries that don't restrict them. If China is smart, they will target the tech sector, especially Nvidia, AMD, Intel and others in that space that have becoming way too greedy the last few years, there's a massive opening for an alternative, even if the product isn't quite as good, if it's a lot cheaper, a lot of consumers will flock in that direction, just as we are starting to see with many industries from China like Solar and EV cars, basically, China has seen the weakness of the west and especially the US, which is greed, by targeting that, it's very easy to gain market share fast as China are showing in many sectors. I know some will say we should buy western products and I would, but with how greedy some are getting, if China offers an alternative of high quality and much lower price point, I would be stupid to not jump, and that I suspect is what most of the world thinks. China is likely going to continue to be aggressive on pricing in one sector after another because it's working for them at a time when the US is trying to keep China down because of other geopolitical reasons, basically, as long as there is enough countries around the world that's willing to buy products from China that are much cheaper than western products, then China wins by default and if the west is smart, they'll stop being so greedy, otherwise, China is going to eat there lunch, one sector after another as they are already showing, which will be fun to watch in the high-tech sector where they've really got greedy in the west, especially the US, and to put it another way, it doesn't matter if the US bans there products, if other countries are buying them, that's giving there consumers a big advantage in savings compared to US consumers, so the US can only go so far on that unless there corporations are willing to slash prices aggressively, fat chance of that lol.
@Lt_TimАй бұрын
The Chinese government artificially keeps the price of their currency low, so that they have an advantage in the cost to produce anything. Whether they are greedy or not, companies can't produce items as cheaply in the US as they can in China, especially in places like California that mandate $20 per hour for unskilled jobs. If the US really wants to control China, we'll continue to bring the high-tech, higher-paying manufacturing jobs back to the US and invest in producing the low-tech stuff in all the countries south of the US. This will give them something they can export besides people and drugs. It will also reduce the cost to ship and the time it takes to get products to the US. As those countries develop, they will eventually draw manufacturing away from China.
@SonicCommenterАй бұрын
Okay, Xi.
@nemthefearless26 күн бұрын
I'd heard that solid state was more expensive because it is harder to manufacture - electrolyte has to be sintered to the electrodes, much easier to inject a liquid.
@sdfglkjhdfkjdhldskfjАй бұрын
Lithium is $12/kg. Sulphur is under $30/kg. Why is Lithium Sulphide $1,000/kg?
@svr5423Ай бұрын
"Hello insurance!? I bought this 100kwh BEV battery off Aliexpress. And for a totally unrelated reason, my house burned down yesterday."
@lordofsevenrealmsАй бұрын
😂
@davidbrayshaw3529Ай бұрын
We ask our batteries to go outside to smoke.
@johnmightymole2284Ай бұрын
Sorry, but your videos are getting a bit flakey.
@daveret1144Ай бұрын
Sam covers a wide range of topics in his high-quality videos. Not all of them are if interest to all viewers and not all of them are of interest to me. I pick and choose which videos to watch or how long to watch them for depending on their interest level. If you think that some of Sam's videos are getting flaky thin don't watch them,!
@smiith7996Ай бұрын
He's got to keep pushing the EV propaganda because he owns Tesla stock. Maybe even gets a backhander from Musk.
@hardi.howdy.983Ай бұрын
@smiith7996 He will never get a freebie from Elon, despite pumping up his TSLA, he wouldn't even heard of this channel. Do, you really think an odd viewer buying a few hundred shares will have any effect? But Sam thinks it does. So self-absorbed 😁
@calvinwalker4654Ай бұрын
Musk is like another politician that causes people to lose their minds. Why would you let him live rent free in your head? EVs are propaganda but here you are watching a video about them. If I don’t like something I’m sure not going to torture myself watching videos about it. Time is way too limited for that
@johnmightymole2284Ай бұрын
@@daveret1144 I like most of his videos and have praised many and give thumb up but this and a few others recently have been flimsy. I didn't know until I watched. Thanks for your advice though on how to use KZfaq.
@jdbrintonАй бұрын
You have really good battery news coverage! Thanks!
@benbryant1693Ай бұрын
hi Sam! i really enjoy your vids! keep it up Mate! 🙂
@SkepticalCavemanАй бұрын
Price is much more imporrant than capacity or performance, so this could be a game changer.
@jonvelde5730Ай бұрын
Another problem with these "coming soon!" Announcements is that people are often comparing the energy density of the theoretical material to the energy density of an existing pack structure. Its apples to oranges.
@vorpalinferno9711Ай бұрын
New week, new breakthrough.
@junaidisalam5718Ай бұрын
make sense... according to 2023 U N data, chinese inventors are posting some 14,000 more international patent applications, than the second-place U S...
@TrumpIsGoingToPrisonАй бұрын
Most of which they've STOLEN.
@MudflyWatersmanАй бұрын
No the problem is dendrite formation in the lithium sulfide. Lithium sulfide is by far the most high capacity energy storage medium we have have.... The details of preventing dendrite storage for long battery life just aren't solved yet..... But they're getting there and we will. The theoretical capacity of lithium sulfide batteries is seven times what current batteries capacities are, and practical applications demonstrated are about three times.... As of 2 years ago....760 wh/kg was lab demonstrated.
@benbryant1693Ай бұрын
i used to drive a truck for a living (not very long - 3 months). the company that i worked for said doing 400-450 miles per day as a pro trucker was a good distance. -having said that, i wonder whether the same applies to cars? in other words, most people would never drive more than 400-500 miles per day, which means that EVs could be equipped with "lesser" battery packs that might give cars 600 miles of range rather than 1000 miles of range? -this would cut the price of the pack and still provide enough range to do 400-500 miles per day provided countries implement good charging networks. -would probably also be quicker charging? anyway, just thinking from a "standard trucking practice" perspective.... thoughts?
@markmiller890321 күн бұрын
We dont need to waste $ onbl batteries. Or chargers..
@neildolan7177Ай бұрын
A battery that gives 500km of range and can be charged in less than 10 minutes should be good enough. It is more important to clean up the battery production process, such as removing synthetic graphite to reduce the carbon footprint.
@larryg7109Ай бұрын
I think these companies in China and Japan, exaggerator accomplishments to raise money. I would be very skeptical of this claim.
@5nowChain5Ай бұрын
The import taxes will counter the price reductions to keep propping up oil and gas industry.
@Apemania69Ай бұрын
nio has at least working semi solid state batteries avaible in china or rather this summer. they used one already for over 1000km drive they made
@dimitriwilson154Ай бұрын
I don't believe it till i see it .
@smthB4Ай бұрын
Sam, haven’t you been saying that CATL’s silicon anode battery, at 500 wh/kg is already under mass production, and will be in evs very soon?
@allangraham970Ай бұрын
CATL have no batteries with silicon . They are currently shipping next gen batteries that use crystals with bigger gaps inside for storing lithium. Silicon atomic bonds get weakened by storing lithium so silicon most likely will not be used long term
@hishamarafa6780Ай бұрын
Is it possible to replace existing battery with a solid state battery when they become available ?
@kieronimo1Ай бұрын
Cost is crucial. If they can make a product as good as CATL but way cheaper, then it's needed. When I was a kid, I used to watch a TV show in the UK called tomorrow's world. The dream of this show was that future people would have abundance, not have to work, and the environment would be maintained by machines. I loved it. That technology almost exists now, but people with power will always try to exploit. Imagine a green, clean earth maintained by fully renewable machines where nobody had to starve or suffer. It's a utopia that we will never reach, but we should keep chasing it so we don't end up with the opposite.
@lagmonster7789Ай бұрын
Yea seems to me that any kind of optimism has been outlawed in the media for at least a decade or more now, misery is apparently much more profitable 😞
@malcolmrickarby2313Ай бұрын
Scared people make better wage slaves and consumers!😊
@andrewsaint6581Ай бұрын
Great Programme Raymond Baxter actually flew Spitfire in WWII. James Burke did a series called Connections. Curiosity Stream sponsored a new series a few years ago.
@lagmonster7789Ай бұрын
@@andrewsaint6581 Connections(2) were amazing shows, i loved watching them back in the day 😁
@einyel63Ай бұрын
No more than 2 months ago, Electric Viking: solid stat batteries are dead. Today: lets do a 180 change in direction
@jamesvandamme7786Ай бұрын
Not quite what he said. Not viable at the time vs. conventional batteries.
@transmitterguy478Ай бұрын
We (USA) still won't have the capacity to charge them.
@Tonystarkes888Ай бұрын
How do you put out so many videos so often you are a machine, i wasnt really into EVs until i hired one, now iam in love with EVs i will definalty buy one because you talked me into it.
@smiith7996Ай бұрын
Sucker. He's doing it because he owns Tesla stock and wants to see it rise because of people like you.
@ElMistroFerozАй бұрын
There’s a reason cars are ideally around the 400 mile range. 1000 mile range is inefficient, as 99% of the time you’ll be hauling around that extra weight you won’t be using.
@kdkd693Ай бұрын
$1000/kg? More like $1000/tonne in scale. Don’t quote lab grade prices
@MrChakra108Ай бұрын
Batteries are a function of - energy density, cycling ability, fast charging ability and cost. You can have 3 good but not all 4 good. SSBs have high cost and low cycle life.
@JamaicanMeCrazyАй бұрын
I'll have to see this to believe it
@allangraham970Ай бұрын
This is what Gemini had to say about lithium dulphut bstteries "Lithium sulfide itself isn't actually considered expensive. Lithium-sulfur batteries, which are still under development, have the potential to be cheaper than lithium-ion batteries due to sulfur being an abundant and low-cost material. The high cost of lithium-sulfur batteries currently lies in the challenges researchers are trying to overcome to make them commercially viable. These challenges include short lifespans and capacity degradation"
@malcolmrickarby2313Ай бұрын
Thanks 😊. I thought that might be the problem.🤔
@jamesvandamme7786Ай бұрын
That's what I thought. Lithium? Sulfur? Expensive?? Naaah.
@RWBHereАй бұрын
Hmm. Beware of things which sound too good to be true...
@voramujАй бұрын
Thank you for sharing this information. It is really interesting. I think SSB will be developed in the near future, and some other technologies will come along.
@jgarbo3541Ай бұрын
Could we all have electric light in our homes? Impossible!! Candles cannot be beat....1880. In 2024...
@pauls3075Ай бұрын
1960's we'll all be flying in electric cars by the year 2000...
@Phtang-phtangАй бұрын
I thought CATL condenser batteries were higher than this?
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461Ай бұрын
🙋♂️ THANKS SAM , I THINK 🤔 WE ARE IN FOR AN EXCITING FUTURE 😎👍💚💚💚
@Sacto1654Ай бұрын
It will be interesting to see when will either BYD or CATL start producing solid-state batteries. They're in a race with South Korean, Japanese and even American companies to make it to large-scale mass production.
@justme6275Ай бұрын
battery tech is moving very fast.... i believe when it is in mass production and consumers are buying them.
@keirenleАй бұрын
What s about battery for solar. Would it be a game change to be able to have an affordable home battery that could store enough energy for uninterrupted use.
@NoidoDevАй бұрын
Different battery technologies have different use cases. For homes the mass and some extent also the volume doesn't matter that much. Price matters even much more. Lead acid, Edison, or liquid might be the best ones.
@jeffparry2754Ай бұрын
This has only one drawback, charging cycles.
@peters972Ай бұрын
It’s become like biotech where drugs that are just in the lab are hyped up before the clinical trials. That’s a long way from finding a way to manufacture at scale and be safe let alone produce with the corporation making growing earnings. Lab to eps is a LONG road.
@amgguy4319Ай бұрын
Elon Musk will have to figure out how GM was able to get legislation passed to keep competition out. It's the one they excel in.
@kinkeungkam2658Ай бұрын
high density barriers are in high demand. Because electric aeroplanes need them for over 10 thousand km long haul flights!
@MrGMawson2438Ай бұрын
Not sure Sam cheers mate
@starlord8973Ай бұрын
China's biggest electric-car maker, BYD, has agreed a $1bn (£780m) deal to set up a manufacturing plant in Turkey, as it continues to expand outside its home country. The new plant will be able to produce up to 150,000 vehicles a year, according to Turkish state news agency Anadolu. The facility is expected to create around 5,000 jobs and start production by the end of 2026. The deal was signed at an event in Istanbul attended by President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and BYD's chief executive Wang Chuanfu. BYD did not immediately respond to a BBC request for further details on the deal. The announcement comes as Chinese EV makers face increasing pressure in the European Union and the US. Last week, the EU took action to protect the bloc's motor industry by raising tariffs on Chinese EVs. The decision saw BYD hit with an extra tariff of 17.4% on the vehicles it ships from China to the EU, which was on top of a 10% import duty. Turkey is part of the EU’s Customs Union, which means vehicles made in the country and exported to the bloc can avoid the additional tariff.
@petersimms4982Ай бұрын
Also assembling EVs in 🏴😉😊
@chasx7062Ай бұрын
The Question is how heavy is it?
@suggesttwoАй бұрын
7:03 it's hard is code for it's an idea and we're working on it.
@tigranohanyan3321Ай бұрын
Litium sulfate chemistry is very complicated. The battery life is very short. Its a problem.
@ChickensAndGardeningАй бұрын
Let's not forget drones. Once we have lighter, longer range batteries for drones, it will revolutionize product delivery, surveillance, geological applications and wildlife observation. And military. But perhaps most world-changing will be air transportation: quad prop electric air cars are already in prototype, and longer range would make them a revolutionary reality. Exciting times ahead!
@gregp.7148Ай бұрын
CATL’s latest LFP batteries are already in Chinese EVs, soon in Teslas. If you drive less than 300 miles (~480 kms) per day and can plug it in at night with a Level 2 charger, then no one needs more range. And 90% of the people drive a whole lot less than 300mi/day. Otherwise just keep on buying hundreds of gallons or thousands of litres of gasoline per year, whose exhaust fumes pollute the air that all of us breathe in and contributes to greenhouse gases. First replace one of your ICE vehicles, then a few months later your second one. AND you don’t need to buy new, buy used 3-4 year old. There’s very little that can break down on an EV. And maintenance costs are minimal. Answer one question, why do you want your kids to keep breathing in the exhaust fumes from your ICE SUV or car? The answer is that you don’t!
@cosmoray9750Ай бұрын
Viking, this article is bias from The Guardian. The title says " CATL, the little-known Chinese battery maker that has the US worried " Then it goes on to say " It is the world’s biggest battery maker, it powers electric vehicles for Tesla, Volkswagen and BMW, and its EV technology is miles ahead of US offerings, say experts " Is CATL most people have never heard of ?
@karljennАй бұрын
Have you seen the metal free battery from Sakuu? Sandy Munro did video of it last week. How would that technology stack upto other batteries in development?
@PhilippeDHoogheАй бұрын
@Sam: light weight and low cost with added safety will always win. If that will ultimately be the solid state battery remains to be seen, you are right, but we need to explore many alleys to find the best solution. Imagine the SS battery goes through the same development as LiFePO4 and hits 1kWh / kg at cost per kWh competitive to LiFePO4. That will disrupt trucking and aviation, never mind cars... We need to look at this with the long term in perspective. It took more than 20 years to develop the PV panels we have today and the cost for producing them keeps dropping. The lab says it is possible, Elon is right to say that the mastery of producing it at an industrial scale with very low cost is the hardest. Today we see the advantages of that industrial development, the lab stuff was proven decades ago. Real progress hits the market when the cost is right. Only then. And that is why this video is encouraging, it says the Chinese have proven to slash cost by one degree of magnitude (10x) ... in the lab. But also it says current industrial processes to make these at scale is not too far out either. My guess is we need another 5 years. For people watching your channel that seems like an eternity. Because you hit them with 10 news items every day. It is all perception.
@malcolmrickarby2313Ай бұрын
We will see these advances first in portable consumer electronics. Then we can watch and wait until they make it into vehicles.👍🏽😊
@prajnasamadhi60Ай бұрын
Don't worry, anything the Americans or Japanese come up with, Chinese will always come up with better ideas and products.
@taavetmalkov3295Ай бұрын
"its inevitable that this is the beninging"
@markjohnson1523Ай бұрын
Thank for this report. Hard to find a credible report on battery types..
@rozonoemi9374Ай бұрын
A US Company, Sakuu, just invented a solid state battery that will be very compelling. China knows this & want to sell there batteries now before competition comes along.
@blackknight4996Ай бұрын
Fake news
@rozonoemi9374Ай бұрын
@@blackknight4996 Check out Munroe Live about it!
@adr2tАй бұрын
@@blackknight4996 Not fake news - this is very much real. Other companies are already a head of chinese in terms of research and development and many pilot plants are already under way. This is real and China knows this is bad - same with Na batteries.
@rozonoemi937423 күн бұрын
No its not fake news. Check out Sandy Munroe on the subject👍
@francoisguyot9770Ай бұрын
Never stop research and development! Even though the results may be disappointing at first, solutions for tomorrow's problems depends on continued development of scientific breakthroughs. The world keeps changing. Indeed the first cars batteries based on Acid-Lead or NiCD or NiMh may not have been practical or economical but improvements in overall chemistry and manufacturing have made made today's EV based on Lithium a reality. So keep the research going by all means.
@dominiclavu193Ай бұрын
What happened to Toyota's Solid State Battery. Still holding my breath...NOT!
@KidHorn7001Ай бұрын
They'll develop it after hydrogen takes off.
@dominiclavu193Ай бұрын
@@KidHorn7001 🤣
@anthonycody4095Ай бұрын
The most affordable technology will prevail! While charge time and range matter, once both the automotive industry and consumers agree on an acceptable standard and battery technology meets this criterion, cost will be the deciding factor. In my view, CATL is poised for dominance.
@markseers8587Ай бұрын
The currently mass produced Amprius batteries used by Formula E for example are 500 kWh /kg.
@alexandruilea915Ай бұрын
But only have about 400 to 500 cycles in them, making them good for aircrafts, drones and so on, but not for a car that's supposed to last at least 15 years.
@4literv6Ай бұрын
@@alexandruilea915 500 cycles at 300+ miles which is approaching the average ev range now is good for over 150,000 miles genius. The average ice vehicle world wide is retired at 12 years old and around 130,000 miles SMDH. Some countries it's less some a bit more. 👍🏻
@chrishaberbosch1029Ай бұрын
Wh/kg
@malcolmrickarby2313Ай бұрын
@@chrishaberbosch1029or, kWh/tonne😊
@jetli740Ай бұрын
@@4literv6 500 cycle in real world mean it last 2-3 years, if your calculation base on -- only charge when battery down to zero that not good for any battery
@yvesinformel221Ай бұрын
Not the first time I hear that the have solved the problem lithium sulfur . Probably every 5 years, then I hear criquets Last time I heard that they solved the longevity problem (not to many cycle).
@enriquegurria3947Ай бұрын
Maybe lfp batteries are now excellent for cars and good for trucks…but not fit for ships and planes. So that could be the way to reduce emissions in those sectors.
@garvesh7372Ай бұрын
Compared to other Lithium batteries, how many cycles do lithium sulfide batteries exceed over what is expected as in lithium batteries.
@jedics1Ай бұрын
Yep, higher densities for lower costs are happening steadily which will achieve mass adoption inevitably at some point. 1000km battery is great for maybe 10% of the population but for everybody else a battery for half the cost is going to be a far more important factor eg. A 400km Ev for about 15 grand that needs almost nothing spent on it for the next 500,000km where most if not all of its driving is fueled by solar....
@AhBeeDoiАй бұрын
With solid state batteries, I will always want to know how many charge cycles it can achiieve. If a solid state battery only has half the cycles of regular lithium ion batteries, I would argue that it actually cost twice as much as the stated cost. My true cost of a battery must also factor in the life of the battery.
@VFellaАй бұрын
Nice!! Amazing!! Now they only need to make solid state batteries that actually work!🤣
@89volvowithlazersАй бұрын
Will wait to a western comp actually produces a product
@fredericoamigoАй бұрын
Glad to hear this, but you need to share your sources.
@frankcoffeyАй бұрын
Even if the price it too high for mass production we still need examples to do testing. Make the cars.
@SamIIsАй бұрын
Instead of looking at things in terms of battery density kilowatt hours use MPCU (miles per charge unit). It could be bossed on the average amount of energy in a gallon of gas. It's simpler to say a vehicle gets 35 MPCU, or just MPC.
@OddRagnarDengLerstlАй бұрын
Becomes a bit like the cold war era, but this time the West is on the not-so-advanced side. Why can't we all just be friends? I've nothing against Chinese.
@DavidWilliams-cs5ufАй бұрын
If it is possible to have such energy densities, then it would be feasible revolutionise the aero industry, shipping and road transport. As ever, we think that it will take time, however, whoever gets there first will find a vast business opportunity, hence the big rush.
@scoty_doesАй бұрын
This is how you put a dent in the universe.
@vlhc4642Ай бұрын
China has a government backed solid state battery consortium called CASIP that combines the effort of battery makes including CATL and BYD, national labs and universities in an all of nation effort to dominate solid state. Even then they still said it'll be a few years away at least. So solid state is coming and China will dominate it, there's no doubt, but to say it's coming soon is a stretch.
@manuelferreira4622Ай бұрын
No they are not!
@Patriot-os7brАй бұрын
My point of view is whatever happens in battery technology upgrades from here on is going to transform the players. Toyota has chosen not to be a player, and other legacy automakers as well. They could well be left holding the Baby so to speak or worse bankrupted.
@linuxxrАй бұрын
this is great and it will further the ev industry for a long time() !! untill plastic-aluminum batts surface
@tomg6480Ай бұрын
Don't worry about evs. Can we just get a home battery that stores say 50 kWh and costs 90% less, then I'll buy a solar panel system and disconnect from the grid
@richardcottone6620Ай бұрын
I think the price of the new solid state batteries will replace the condensed battery, if the price is right
@ReddylionАй бұрын
Hmm good, now.
@yojimbo3681Ай бұрын
Let's hope Biden doesn't put tariffs on that. I just hope both sides can share technologies and learn from each other.
@davidbeard7262Ай бұрын
Specific energy (e.g. kWh/kg) rather than energy density (e.g. kWh/litre)
@patrickmckowen2999Ай бұрын
Wait, "game changing"! Ill come back next week for the next one.😂 Cheers
@jamesvandamme7786Ай бұрын
I don't need more than 500 miles of range, and if LiS batteries can power a cheap car I'm waiting with bated breath.
@deanmcmanis9398Ай бұрын
This is cool, IF it gets past the R&D phase into real production. As for the goal of 1,000 miles of range, I personally would rather have 300 miles of range, with a much smaller battery pack. Most reporting shows that EV owners only use about 12% of their current pack capacity per day. And most EV owners recharge to full overnight at home. So I would rather NOT carry around 1200lbs of battery that I don't use. Lighter weight has many more benefits for daily driving than extreme range.