FULL REVIEW: Vauxhall Astra Sport Tourer Electric: Loads better than an SUV? |Electrifying

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Could the Astra Sport Tourer be the electric car to cure us all of our addiction to SUVs?
It’sspacious, efficient and good to drive. But do the financials add up?
Electric SUVs make sense because the battery is underneath where you sit, so the raised
seating position makes sense from a packaging point of view.
But the problem is one of physics. The tallness of SUVs mean they are less aerodynamic,
which means you use more energy pushing them through the air. Because they are more
top heavy, they don’t drive as well either.
So if you want the space of an SUV with more efficiency and a better driving experience, you
need an estate.
It’s a bit of a rarity - the only other electric estates are the MG5 and the Porsche Taycan.
The MG has been a bit of a success story, especially among company car drivers who need
to carry stuff around.
Most of these Astras will go the same way. The tax incentives make electric much more
attractive for company car drivers.
The Astra is unusually efficient, with a claimed official range figure of 256 miles from a 54kWh battery. Which means this big old car uses about the same amount of power to move it around as a supermini.
It should mean that you spend less time - and money - charging compared to the SUV competitors which have bigger batteries.
But is it worth more than a Skoda Enyaq or the same as a Tesla Model Y? Tom’s not so sure.
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@Jamessansome 8 ай бұрын

Bring back the estates! The sooner the design fad of big SUV's is over the better!

@mikadavies660 8 ай бұрын

Great looking but £40,000 to £45,000 for an Astra is too much. Take a petrol Corsa, Mokka or Astra and its £10,000 more to get to the EV. Yet Stellantis are using the same batteries and motors across all their cars. No way are they passing on the savings of mass production.

@timaustin2000 8 ай бұрын

Definitely price gouging. It's ridiculous. A 51Kwh battery is NOT more expensive than a 70Kwh battery in the Enyaq!! This should be starting at £28k

@stevenjones916 8 ай бұрын

@@timaustin2000That is crazy.

@UpsideDownFork 13 күн бұрын

They are now selling brand new for under £25k

@hughmarcus1 8 ай бұрын

Weird that Vauxhall is pricing this so high. Unless it gets discounted heavily to fleets, they might not shift many. The only reason Vauxhalls get bought as company cars is because of price.

@Adam.Piper62 8 ай бұрын

Dealers for personal and fleet purchases alike give out special "deals" like candy - you can get 10k off a Corsa if you try!

@garyallsopp6369 8 ай бұрын

@@Adam.Piper62We had our pre-registered Corsa-e for £6,500 less than list in 2021, but I also had £2,500 off my Enyaq later that year. I used to buy large estates but SUVs offer more space on a smaller footprint, which my wife prefers. My Enyaq is still too expensive so it's hard to justify the Astra at this price. It does look good though.

@Brian-om2hh 8 ай бұрын

@@Adam.Piper62 You don't even have to try at my local Vauxhall dealer. They're knocking pre-reg Corsa E's out for £10k off list. Some have just 3 or 4 miles on them.... There is a revamped model due though....

@Brian-om2hh 8 ай бұрын

Most who choose this Astra will lease it. The list price won't really be a factor.....

@sarahaubrey8096 8 ай бұрын

Bring back the estate!

@chrishart8548 Ай бұрын

They never went away people just weren't buying them.

@rtfazeberdee3519 8 ай бұрын

I like the look of it but i'll wait for the 2nd hand models to get a proper price so the first buyer takes the depreciation hit

@stevenjones916 8 ай бұрын

50% cheaper after two years. 👍

@chrishart8548 Ай бұрын

Probably £10k used after just a few years especially with a 54kw battery

@chriss4949 8 ай бұрын

There’s the rub Tom…another Stellantis vehicle in the Expensive Car Tax bracket because of a “list” price 10k too high.! Are they trying to kill the brand by stealth

@timaustin2000 8 ай бұрын

I think Stelantis want to be able to lobby governments to ditch EVs entirely and need a swathe of "failures" as evidence that "EVs don't work".

@marvinsamuels1237 8 ай бұрын

Will be a good used buy once the lease period is over. Makes a nice alternative to the default SUV.

@benrgrogan 8 ай бұрын

With the MG4 based next gen MG5 coming next year (and the Peugeot 308 sw) this car is presumably going to become even harder to recommend.

@davidlang3625 8 ай бұрын

Companies will buy these at a heavily discounted price which will make them a great second hand buy in a couple of years. Begs the question as to why they dont price it correctly in the first place?

@TheGoodDrEvil 8 ай бұрын

Agreed. The efficiency is great, but there hould at least be a version available with higher range. An estate quite simply demands it.

@nannyoggsally 8 ай бұрын

I mean, it looks better than most other cars.

@gregcooper2719 8 ай бұрын

I got absolutely slated in KZfaq comments when Stellantis released the specs of this and the e308 estate when I suggested that they had dropped the ball by only giving it a 250 mile range. Could it do more than 300 at that price I would have gone for one as I’m replacing a petrol Octavia estate. Instead for the money I’ve opted for the new Kona with the bigger battery which was cheaper on lease, I’ll just have to figure out storage when we get close to family holiday…

@Olivarus238 8 ай бұрын

You might want to read EuroNcap's test of the new Kona?

@ISuperTed 8 ай бұрын

I’d love an EV estate when we decide to change our current diesel estate used as the family car. I’ve checked out the MG5 and it’s too small for us, so would love something like the Astra or e308 estate. Both look to be really good cars and roomy. However, there is absolutely no way I’ll pay £40k plus for a family estate or finance one for that money. I know the real world price will be way less than that seeing it’s easy to get a £10k on a Corsa, but that’s still £30k - £35k and that’s ridiculous. I’d go for a good used Tesla Model Y at that price. What I’ll do, like I guess many others, is wait 18 months when they’ll be £20k or less and then seriously consider getting a good low mileage one. Until Stellantis and others can price these the same or close to ICE estates it just doesn’t make any sense as even with lower running costs they are still £10k more and that’s too much.

@Brian-om2hh 8 ай бұрын

I guess it depends on the lease deals. There could be some decent lease deals going soon on this car....

@nicholasrigg8999 8 ай бұрын

Vauxhall pricing continues to amaze (they can't be serious). However, I'm pretty sure hardly anyone pays list

@chrishart8548 Ай бұрын

No way people ever paid ford prices either. They put the price of the focus higher than a golf yet used golf's were many thousands more than focus.

@alistairl 8 ай бұрын

Astronomical ? Groan :) - like the previous Astra review it was all good until you mentioned the price of the MG. Range is a curious thing - I guess it keeps weight and cost down by having a smaller battery, but again bringing the MG in to the equation runs in the face of that. Good that it's not an SUV but still has carrying capacity, will be interesting to see if lease prices indicate fleet discounts.

@Madonsteamrailways 8 ай бұрын

At the moment I’m driving a flame Renault Zoe. It’s a remarkably good little car for a first electric vehicle. Now what is the next one going to be? I never have the same car twice, one after the other. I’m looking at having a Vauxhall Combo Life Electric with a Wheelhome Vikenze III camper conversion.

@TheTriumfAnt 8 ай бұрын

I'm guessing that after the initial cars are leased as company cars, the following cars will sit on forecourts until Vauxhall discount them. They'll make a great used buy below £20k in a couple of years.

@d947 5 ай бұрын

Love this car!

@ObiePaddles 8 ай бұрын

First view and comment for one of my favourite channels!

@glenwalker4093 6 ай бұрын

I currently use an estate (Dacia Logan) primarily because I like its long roof rails which make it much more stable to carry a canoe (I have the cross-bars at each end of the roof so there is a big space between them). I know I could do this with an MG5. Would be interested to see if the Astra Sports Tourer roof rails can have the cross bars mounted at different points like you can do with open rails or if they still restrict to a narrow/standard spacing. Much prefer the look of the Astra...also the MG5 "326 miles range" is only in slow moving traffic.

@Whatshisname346 8 ай бұрын

It’s a shame really but it seems to be the case across Stellantis. I recently checked out new prices on the quite small Jeep Avenger and here is Finland you’re knocking on €50,000 for a car that’s not got great range, not the powerful and doesn’t have great charging speed. I mean they’re all ‘good’ cars but they’re just too expensive for regular people to afford.

@radfoo 8 ай бұрын

We need more of these from other manufacturers but fear as the reviewer said this is too high priced and may scare others following if sales are low. I have a Leon ST at the moment, so same segment of the market, maybe unfair but other than being electric moving to a vauxhall astra would seem like a slight step back.

@Pottery4Life 8 ай бұрын

Thank you.

@TTThedarkknight 8 ай бұрын

MG5 is 326 miles??? Google shows 250 miles for the Long range version

@lukehebb 8 ай бұрын

SE Long Range is 326 miles, straight from the MG website

@TTThedarkknight 8 ай бұрын

@@lukehebb that's weird. In Norway, MG website's "long range" is 236 miles

@lukehebb 8 ай бұрын

@@TTThedarkknight ah this is the problem with different regions having different rating and testing methods unfortunately I'm sure the real world figure is somewhere in between the two!

@markevans4832 8 ай бұрын

There are 2 battery sizes which is why you are getting the different values.

@TTThedarkknight 8 ай бұрын

@@markevans4832 yeah the big battery is not even available here, and they've called it "long range"

@lukehebb 8 ай бұрын

I feel there will be a lot of "deals" on this car that put it in the price point it should be from the start. Not worth the money which is such a shame because its a relatively decent car, just overpriced for no sensible reason

@Stewiedude1 8 ай бұрын

It's so when they do "discount" it people think they're getting a great deal.

@Colt16v 7 ай бұрын

One of the first Opel that i actually like. The range/battery size is fine, what lets it down though, is charging speed. Could it charge 120-130kw with a nice chargingcurve, the range would be fine. Also its kinda underpowered for an EV, why not just have the standard 150kw/204hp? And no towing is just silly.

@aakashbrahmbhatt294 8 ай бұрын

Question for Stallantis? For £45k, why shouldn't I just buy Tesla Model Y?

@YBM2007 5 ай бұрын

Because not a single penny goes to the conspi nut Musk

@francisdoran971 7 ай бұрын

Can it tow? Or is it like all the other Stellantis EVs? Except for the Combo-e/Berlingo/Rifter, which battery pack is too small to have a decent towing range. Why go to all the bother of designing and building an EV, if you dont give it a hig enough battery to do a bit of towing. Mg5 is rated for 500kg, which is not a lot, but gives option for pulling a small trailer to the landfill, or a small dinghy and trailer.

@michaelridley2864 8 ай бұрын

I'm all for efficiency, but is it really that efficient if it only just beats the Enyaq - an SUV, after all?

@Electrifyingcom 8 ай бұрын

Yes, because the Skoda has a bigger battery.

@michaelridley2864 8 ай бұрын

@@Electrifyingcom Sorry but it's still not making sense. The commentary in the video says "the Enyaq is almost as efficient", so the comparison being made is between the efficiency of the two cars, not the range. Efficiency does not depend on the battery size. Back to my original question though: is the Astra actually more efficient? What test is that based on? The EV database for example gives virtually identical efficiencies. Assuming that is correct, and bearing in mind the fact that the Enyaq is an SUV, that feels like a pretty poor result for the Astra, rather than a strong point. The MEB platform is generally pretty efficient in my experience.

@stephenclay6852 8 ай бұрын

It might be a good car but at that price Vauxhall are building this car because they have to but not bothered if they don’t sell it. Because surely nobody in there right mind would pay that money for one when you can buy the MG5 for £9,000 less ore better still a Tesla modal y which would suit the rep with its access to the supercharger network.

@ashtaroth1975 8 ай бұрын

That antidote will be the nio et5 touring

@aarong9378 8 ай бұрын

The Nio ET5 Touring might be a good comparison too.

@palusisko 6 ай бұрын

Really beautiful car! But price and battery is not good for me :-) I expected LFP battery for better safety and endurance...

@rjb1970 8 ай бұрын

MG5 official range is 250 - don't know where you got 326 from?

@brendonoleary519 5 ай бұрын

Given the depreciation of electric Corsas, I can see a second hand one of these being a fantastic bargain for a family bus in 2-3 years.

@alangravy27 8 ай бұрын

I would like one but, for the performance and battery size it is way over priced. If it was about 70kwh and 200 bhp it might make more sense but as it stands, £35K? first year depreciation will be huge.

@hishamg 8 ай бұрын

It’s a nice car, and I would prefer it to an SUV, however the WLTP range is less than the new Kona Advance 64 kWh, MG4 extended range and Kia Niro EV, all cheaper cars. As for the price that’s just silly, the person who priced this higher than a Tesla model Y needs their head examined. Or else just doesn’t want to sell it. Come on, you have a choice between an Astra estate and a Tesla Model Y and the TMY is cheaper, which one would most people choose?

@barrymurton8988 8 ай бұрын

Great for the golf clubs

@marioribeiro7284 8 ай бұрын

I completely agree with you about the analysis of this car...I don't think it will be successful in the Portuguese market, at least here Hugs from Oporto

@BK-tx2vw 8 ай бұрын

Where is Ginny? She is a must!

@ylu5384 8 ай бұрын

What MG5 has a 300+ mile range!? Pretty sure the MG5 Long Range is a 57.5kWh usable battery with a roughly 250mile WLTP range

@jamesdaw131 8 ай бұрын

Why would I get this rather than an Enyaq…

@Adam.Piper62 8 ай бұрын

As with all Vauxhalls, the list price can be ignored other than for those who have the cash and will pay the premium for that - dealers are well known to offer very competitive "deals" on PCP purchases and again the same will apply for conpany leasing. If you try, getting near 10k off list price for a Corsa has been done! Stellantis arnt stupid - these cars sell for a reason.

@itechtalk03 8 ай бұрын

It looks great, but I hope it doesn’t sell well and they realise how overpriced both the hatchback and estate are.

@renes9966 2 ай бұрын

I hate the chav option black wheels and roof… otherwise I’d consider it

@Adam.Piper62 8 ай бұрын

As with all Vauxhalls, the list price can be ignored other than for those who have the cash and will pay the premium for that - dealers are well known to offer very competitive "deals" on PCP purchases and again the same will apply for conpany leasing. Stellantis arnt stupid - these cars sell for a reason.

@sevesellors2831 8 ай бұрын

Nice car but too expensive the only Stellantis company in the real world is Citroen who understand their customers and place in the market and that is to be applauded.

@samweller003 8 ай бұрын

Tom Barnard The best bit about Electrifying now Wookie has moved on.

@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589 8 ай бұрын

Because I'm first, everything I say is right.

@T0NY66 8 ай бұрын

He seems to argue with the wife a lot

@portnaluinge 8 ай бұрын

Beautiful car (can’t believe I’m saying that about an Astra) but dear lord that’s a lot of money.

@glennmckenzie1096 8 ай бұрын

Let's talk abut those SUV hefty flat fronts, and the life threatening dangers those pose to pedestrians, cyclists, and drivers of older cars...

@Electrifyingcom 8 ай бұрын

Oddly, the pedestrian protection rules are one of the reasons SUVs have become more attractive to car makers. There needs to be a gap between the bonnet and anything hard underneath (engine, motor, charge inverter etc) to give a softer landing and prevent injuries.

@glennmckenzie1096 8 ай бұрын

@@Electrifyingcom Fair enough, but I'd still rather get tipped up onto a slopping bonnet at knee height, than whacked in the kidneys square on - no matter how 'soft' the surface!

@David-bl1bt 8 ай бұрын

" the seats fold completely flat...nearly"...😵‍💫 They either fold completely flat or they don't, if they don't, then it isnt a proper estate. Who on earth is going to pay this price for a Vauxhall over a Tesla model Y?

@stevencampbell1150 8 ай бұрын

Couple of things, one it's too expensive both to buy and two insure especially if like me you're not a company car driver so I'm sorry I'll stick my euro 6 diesel SUV thanks very much.

@BobTheBlue 8 ай бұрын

The Vauxhall Astra…. For the man who has given up on life!

@johnnyonline 8 ай бұрын

Hello, I’d like to have an argument, please.

@rtfazeberdee3519 8 ай бұрын

oh no you don't

@johnnyonline 8 ай бұрын

Oh yes I do.

@stevenjones916 8 ай бұрын

@@johnnyonlineJust admit you are wrong !

@ingatestone100 8 ай бұрын

Look do you want the Full half hour argument or just 15 minutes?.

@johnnyonline 8 ай бұрын

Well, what would be the cost?

@johndinsdale1707 8 ай бұрын

The trouble is its twice the price of a Dacia Jogger which is bigger and better?

@mikeyellow 8 ай бұрын

Sorry to say but Vauxhall is going mad with their prices plus they don’t have a good opinion regarding delivery dates and quality. Sorry but no big NO

@brummiesalteno-81 8 ай бұрын

Another stellantis car that is average and overpriced. I'll take a second hand MG5 or even better a long range enyaq. I do wonder how the stellantis group are shifting any cars at all. They must have amazing deals for fleet. Of course in a couple of years because this is average and overpriced it will probably be cheep on the second hand market.

@mad4tar77 7 ай бұрын

Not if your back is f**ked like mine. SUV is a ridiculous word that doesn't describe a high up car, because that is what most so called SUVs are. Sitting higher up makes entry and egress easier and the higher seating position is much better.

@marktoby8113 8 ай бұрын

Far too expensive. Stellantis are going to have to review the price or it's going to fail spectacularly! Same with 308e

@colinrenfrew48 8 ай бұрын

When, like other EVs, it loses 50% of its value after a year, the price would then be ok.

@hishamg 8 ай бұрын

The problem is, to buy it second hand someone else has to buy it first. Not many people will buy a Vauxhall Astra that costs more than a Tesla Model Y.

@Brian-om2hh 8 ай бұрын

Depreciation isn't really an issue if you lease.....

@thomash2806 8 ай бұрын

Vauxhall hasn’t done anything. Opel and Stellantis have done… That one is even LHD and German-registered.

@claudepelletier7601 8 ай бұрын

Love it, call it what you want but that's a " station wagon"! The beautifully practical vehicles I often bought for really cheap because nobody else wanted it! They were just hard to sell in America. I think if these don't sell good it's because of the too high price. If I see one in a car lot I'm still a buyer for half price!

@mpmagber1 6 ай бұрын

Shame it is so overpriced. I dont think it will sell in any meaningful numbers. The depreciation must be horrendous on this model.

@47speedemon 8 ай бұрын

40K for an ENTRY level spec. No chance that car will succeed

@Brian-om2hh 8 ай бұрын

It will on the basis that many buyers/purchasers will lease, not buy...... Most new cars today are leased or acquired via PCP deals.

@47speedemon 7 ай бұрын

@@Brian-om2hh yeh agree it will be mostly lease etc but even still 40k for an astra just don't sit right

@coolcarbon4709 8 ай бұрын

Your generalisation about SUVs are somewhat unfair….mine does 50+ mpg up to high 60s as for handling, a lot of that is down to driver skills to large extent. I also own an electric car…nice but prefer my oil burner… There, is that enough to add to your argument?..😊

@Jaw0lf 8 ай бұрын

Typical Vauxhall, far too expensive and to me it seems like they do not want to sell EV's and claim everyone is only buying the much cheaper ICE versions.

@Brian-om2hh 8 ай бұрын

It might get difficult to buy the ICE versions after about 2027 though, as they won't be producing any by then. A major change of direction is coming in 2025, with the roll out of Euro 7 emissions laws, which many ICE's just cannot meet unless a further £2 to £3k per car is spent on emissions control gear.....