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UK E-Scooter Law: How to fix the problem

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@TowerGMLtdInfo
@TowerGMLtdInfo Жыл бұрын
Hi Guys. I'm originally from Hungary where totally legal to ride a e-scooter, but I living in the UK. Many people using this form of transport to commute to work or simply just for fun. After my last visit in Hungary, after I came back to UK, I decided to buy one from my hard earned money, than I got a Shocking news, IT IS ILLEGAL to use it!! You can buy it legally, but NO WAY TO USE IT LEGALLY!! WE MUST LINE UP and force the government to change this ridiculous law. WE are not criminals and don't treat as a criminals if we use it. End of the day IT IS JUST A SCOOTER!!
@goofyahhh254
@goofyahhh254 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@anthonydyer3939
@anthonydyer3939 10 ай бұрын
It’s not “JUST A SCOOTER”. It’s a really good form of transportation for the urban environment. That scares some governments, because much of their revenue comes from transportation - fuel duty, congestion charging, parking, fines, bus and rail tickets, insurance premium tax….. Having a form of transportation that not only circumvents these revenue streams, but is also cheap, fast and convenient just won’t do at all. Transportation should only be by means of subjugation.
@benlake6390
@benlake6390 9 ай бұрын
It’s all about the money the government/police can earn
@barryjatkinson
@barryjatkinson 9 ай бұрын
It's NOT just a scooter and it is definitely not a good form of transport. They are mostly in landfill within a year. They should be banned from sale. Sellers should be made criminals. If you had lost loved ones you'd feel the same. They are a curse and if not stopped now will create urban wars.
@goofyahhh254
@goofyahhh254 9 ай бұрын
@barryjatkinson what makes them more dangerous than other forms of transport like motorbike? That's why I always wear a full-face helmet and motorcycle jacket when I ride
@mazboengineer
@mazboengineer Жыл бұрын
Electric scooters should totally be legalised in the UK. It shouldn’t even be a debate, considering the ambitious carbon reduction programme the UK aims to achieve in the car sector for 2030. E-scooters blatantly offer everyone a greener alternative to ‘the last mile’ journeys we all face, be it for work or personal travel. I also feel e-scooters ought to be considered no different to a bicycle as they share so much in common; similar footprint on the road, similar mass, likely to be travelling at a similar velocity, and in my view no safer or more likely to be involved in an accident.
@markparker5585
@markparker5585 Жыл бұрын
When you have a Government that spends the majority of its time, money and effort trying to hide or put out the fires caused by its own incompetence and corruption, how do you expect anything of use to actually get done?
@jroobz
@jroobz Жыл бұрын
I wrote to my MP about pushing for changes to the legislation. They mentioned the e-scooter trial extension to May 24, and that police do not have the tools to stop the estimated 750,000 private e-scooters being ridden illegally on UK roads. The horse has bolted and the government are standing around trying to decide if they should lock the door.
@retroleigh
@retroleigh Жыл бұрын
I can't help but feel the pressure on the government, and the overall momentum the eScooter cause had at one point, has ebbed away. I own two eScooters and I'm too afraid to risk using them. I bought them 2 years ago because I foolishly assumed the UK would've caught up with the rest of the world by now. Frustrating...
@breakit46
@breakit46 Жыл бұрын
Similar story, I bought hoping things would be sorted with the law and that I maybe only had a few months before it was decided. I am riding now because I don’t have the time left to wait for fools.
@Swindondrive
@Swindondrive Жыл бұрын
How do you know which scooter to buy? If they are made legal it will only be certain makes/models that pass safety standards.
@breakit46
@breakit46 Жыл бұрын
@@Swindondrive I bought a scooter that can be set in single motor and in eco mode so it will only go 15 mph, when in dual motor and not in eco it can do 40 mph. The power is for torque up hills and not to do 40 mph at every opportunity. I do get your point and at present there is no clear answer. Scooters are very liberating and you don’t need a destination to ride one.
@FishOnTwoWheels
@FishOnTwoWheels Жыл бұрын
My personal view is the reason that the Government keep extending trials is that the hire companies are giving them back-handers. The longer it remains illegal for us to ride our OWN E-Scooters on the road, the more the hire companies laugh all the way to the bank!
@Leo-gt1bx
@Leo-gt1bx Жыл бұрын
Corporate control
@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe
@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe Жыл бұрын
Strange how the hire companies can insure these scooters yet the general public can't insure theirs. Hmmm.
@nicholasmassey6941
@nicholasmassey6941 11 ай бұрын
Doesn’t make sense to me. I mean I think beryl in Birmingham must have back handed someone as they’re so expensive and the service is awful compared to voi, but I very much doubt they’re making a profit yet. I hope they never do, they’re so bad. I’ve boycotted them.
@russellprout723
@russellprout723 Жыл бұрын
The problem with hire scooters are that they are not looked after and left in the street to be vandalised.This gives a poor perception to the public. If you had to purchase your own its not going to be left thrown on the ground and less likely to be ridden badly and become damaged. Anything hired gets mistreated.
@Leo-gt1bx
@Leo-gt1bx Жыл бұрын
And they are expensive to use
@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe
@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe Жыл бұрын
​@@Leo-gt1bx99p to use and then 15p a minute in my city. Because of the governments £2 bus fare thing it's cheaper in most cases for me just to get the bus.
@madskillz808
@madskillz808 9 ай бұрын
Especially here in the UK with its binge drinking culture.
@recyclist6421
@recyclist6421 3 ай бұрын
seemed to work perfectrly fine in Bergen and Trondheim where i have just got back from but in UK we cant seem to do anythiong positive for fear that 1 dickhead out of 10,000 might be a knob and upset a pensioner. UK Police are too soft to actually arrest the 1 dickhead , so everyone else has to continue with the status quo
@deleted3792
@deleted3792 Жыл бұрын
One thing you have yet to learn is that the Uk loves to tax us citizens that's why its so hard for them to legalise scooters so many people will use them instead of buses taxis and cars etc
@Thomas-fn5yy
@Thomas-fn5yy Жыл бұрын
Safety is not the concern it’s simply just about money. Car companies, rails, buses, all would be impacted. They can’t legalise the use of them until government donors get their fingers into every possible pie before it’s rolled out. Same with marijuana legislation, until the alcohol companies can monopolise and own the market for themselves it won’t happen.
@nathancooper5147
@nathancooper5147 Жыл бұрын
Im in cardiff UK. I still ride my emove cruiser. I use a fullface helmet, got a body armour jacket too, did have a full UK driving licence. Had a seizure a few years ago, gave my licence up on medical grounds. And use the scooter as my way of transport. Not had any issues with riding it anywhere, been stopped to ask about it, but never been stopped by police to issues fines/warnings. They see i ride with caution (and geared up) so they tend to leave me alone
@acidbunny1594
@acidbunny1594 10 ай бұрын
Same here in Cardiff on a Solar EQ and some other scooters over the years, never been stopped.
@dono4579
@dono4579 Жыл бұрын
In Charleston South Carolina they are treated like bicycles. No age restriction. The only rule is you have to go in the direction of traffic. -living the dream.
@biglevian
@biglevian Жыл бұрын
what a dream having little children riding vehicles they can't handle next to giant cars. how could that go wrong?
@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe
@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe Жыл бұрын
All electric vehicles over there have very little restrictions which I love. Can have an ebike that goes 28mph in the states. Meanwhile in the UK it's classed as a motorcycle if it goes faster than 15mph.
@x9moto
@x9moto Ай бұрын
​@@biglevianyou let them on bicycles here from 5 years old, oh how safety concious.
@davidpiper3652
@davidpiper3652 Жыл бұрын
The very first time I rode my scooter on the public highway I was stopped by the police. He gave me a bollocking and told me to push the scooter home. I had only gone to the local shops to get something for dinner. The scooter has sat in the shed since then unused. I am hopeful for a change in the law soon.
@teggsy2165
@teggsy2165 Жыл бұрын
At least one Cop knows the law in the UK then. Simple law private e-scooter on private land only,nothing hard about the law just Police have given up if the Government can't wake up and make a sensible law for them.
@robertowen6499
@robertowen6499 9 ай бұрын
You broke the law and were lucky to have just been warned.Whoever sold you the appliance should have informed you of the legal situation that applies in Britain.
@user-op8fg3ny3j
@user-op8fg3ny3j 8 ай бұрын
@@teggsy2165 government doesn't know how to get it's priorities in order. When violent crime is surging, they went to waste police resources on commuters riding scooters
@shanepatrick641
@shanepatrick641 5 ай бұрын
​@@teggsy2165screw that. The uk government needs to hurry up and change the law so we can ride our own scooters. I'm going to get one anyway. Screw em. I'm not going to keep driving everywhere and be stuck in traffic.
@DaveRees-hy7wj
@DaveRees-hy7wj 10 ай бұрын
What’s crazy is I have a family member who is a police officer and friend and both have said if they seen someone riding an e-scooter properly and not acting like an idiot then they would leave them to it. I rode my e-scooter this evening with a friend for our first time with our first e-scooters and guess who we bumped into…….. the police and they just drove straight past us, I have been led to believe they will leave you alone on the pavement and if your being tidy and not an idiot. Another point to everyone make sure you buy an e-scooter now because as soon as they are made legal that’s when they will cost an arm and a leg I am looking to own three.
@shanepatrick641
@shanepatrick641 5 ай бұрын
😮😮😮
@shanepatrick641
@shanepatrick641 5 ай бұрын
Wow! 😮 I'm looking to own an E scooter. I want to get a Xiaomi pro 2
@All_Good_Things
@All_Good_Things Жыл бұрын
Im from Cardiff UK.Round these parts people are going to ride them no matter if they are legal or not it seems.The real problem around here is Ebikes like sur ron's etc blasting around at 40mph + doing wheelies etc. The government should be cracking down on them and leave the 15mph e scooters alone
@darthvaper6745
@darthvaper6745 11 ай бұрын
All this crap aside.....They are dangerous. They should be required to use helmets and move as traffic and not be able to cross pedestrian crossings.....as a car driver, it's bloody difficult to avoid them....they should have a license as half of the riders are on their phones whilst crossing Infront of cars
@esk8jaimes
@esk8jaimes Жыл бұрын
I'm genuinely convinced they're just leaving up to the next (likely Labour Party) Government, only to then say it's their fault for any issues despite almost a decade of back and forth legislative time-wasting from the Conservative Party.
@mattus1gig
@mattus1gig Жыл бұрын
Problem with Labour they will only let you have one type of scooter, give it to the apparently poor and charge everyone else, then ban all other private vehicles.
@TilmanBaumann
@TilmanBaumann Жыл бұрын
Rental scooters are a menace. If those companies want to make it work they need to offer places to drop them off that is not the bloody sidewalk or more often than not the next best river. Privately owned scooters are fantastic and must be sensibly regulated.
@juk3b0xgr1m
@juk3b0xgr1m Жыл бұрын
Rental scoots here in Ottawa are GPS-equipped which restrict the riders from going on the sidewalks or anything outside the programmed geofence. they are quite successful but still in pilot project phase. I agree with you that privately owned ones are not the issue.
@TilmanBaumann
@TilmanBaumann Жыл бұрын
​@@juk3b0xgr1m Interesting. Where are the scooters parked when not in use?
@juk3b0xgr1m
@juk3b0xgr1m Жыл бұрын
@@TilmanBaumann designated scooter pens. If you leave them outside the pens, it'll cost you extra
@gaborhertelendy
@gaborhertelendy 6 ай бұрын
I used once a rental scooter in Budapest. My car just broke down in the carpark of a shopping centre, one ignition coil packed up. I had to buy a replacement part, the closest car part shop was around 4km away. It seemed to be a good idea to just hope on one of the scooters in front of the mall's entrance, and done the way relative quickly. The car part shop was located on an industrial estate which was a private property and the scooter was restricted from that land. I had 2 options: leaving the scooter in front of the gate, doing the rest of the distance by foot (another twice 15 minutes walking) and risking that someone will take the scooter away until i come back and having to walk all the way back. Or the other option, to take the scooter with myself. It wasn't easy though. i had to drag it like a stubborn donkey, it locked the wheel and beeped, so i hid it behind a shed. That moment convinced me i don't ever want to be vulnerable to any provider operated range restricted vehicles.
@jimfoo8155
@jimfoo8155 9 ай бұрын
escooter rider from Singapore here, a few years ago before the government introduced a hefty fine for riding escooter on the roads and foot paths, the streets were full of escooters and you could buy them at any electronics store, now its almost nowhere to be found. You have to be very careful and ride it on bicycle paths only and dismount and push when riding on a foot path. I hope the government could change the laws and allow escooters to be on the road, like how they allow ebikes on the road.
@emmanuelsimire
@emmanuelsimire Жыл бұрын
😮i ride my escooter to work everyday. Taxi cost £8.70 i get to work in 8mins using my scooter for 6 months i bought for £235 i get to wokr in 11 mins. Whe. I corss the road i look around carefully. Even some careless bicycle and patdestrians bump into me while plugging earphones and being distracted. I see the danger and i slow down. They end up apologising to me as it was their fault. WhY is important is too ride carefully
@flitsies
@flitsies Жыл бұрын
The ban in paris was because the scooters were being dump wverywhere and became a problem, nothing to do with the riding aspect, privately owned scooters are still very much legal and encouraged
@thatvampirelorraine
@thatvampirelorraine 2 ай бұрын
Same as me! Under health grounds I see a mobility scooter which is being repeatedly vandalised so I got an escooter, I have helmet, full pads and protection. I have spoken with 3 policeman none of which had a problem as they all said, you wear full protection , you ride on the path, you ride respect fully! , we have no problem with you but remember they are technically illegal! Our problem is people not wearing safety gear, usually kids, weaving in and out of traffic, running into people! So from what I have experienced ride respectfully, respect other path users especially if they got kids or dogs! Btw I am 55!
@flitsies
@flitsies 2 ай бұрын
@@thatvampirelorraine Well it makes good sense, ride with care respect other people's space and 99 times out of a hundred the police are fine with them.
@laurencefegan1875
@laurencefegan1875 Жыл бұрын
Here in the UK, we drive on the left...sorry...on what's left! There will be shitloads of claims against various councils because of the shitty state of the roads!
@jscythe74
@jscythe74 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, I'm just sitting here in the United States where it takes five police cruisers and ten cops in full tactical gear to stop someone for a burned out tail light. And don't get me started about car search and on-site body cavity search.
@DragonXDrei
@DragonXDrei Жыл бұрын
I would be OK getting probed if I had the right to defend myself, get tax benefits on renewable home upgrades, get tax benefits on investments, get lower taxes in general, be allowed to ride scooters and so forth... You wanna change places? I will throw in a free house too...
@jscythe74
@jscythe74 Жыл бұрын
@@DragonXDrei "the right to defend myself," I can only assume, from this statement, that you're white? Cause like that shit doesn't apply equally to everyone. And you NEVER have the right to defend yourself from the police. Which is unfortunate because the police are the biggest threat you're going to encounter here. Well, the biggest threat that you'll actually see coming, that is. . . .
@neilfordham5790
@neilfordham5790 11 ай бұрын
Is there an organised lobby to get the question raised in the Commons? It seems nothing has been done since May 2022.
@SoshiMECH
@SoshiMECH Жыл бұрын
Thankfully in Melbourne, Australia they have recently extended the E-scooter trial to include privately owned E-scooters so now it's legal to ride an E-scooter in Melbourne as long as you keep to 20km/h and don't ride on foot paths at all or roads where the speed limit is above 60km/h. The interesting thing is that you can ride an E-scooter that is capable of no more than 25km/h, which is perfect because that's exactly what I own (and I wouldn't dream of riding it around at 25km/h). It's great being able to ride my E-scooter without having to look out for the cops. Common sense would say that an experienced rider with their own E-scooter is less of a risk than a noob who has never ridden an E-scooter and decides one night to give it a go. I would say you need weeks of use before you become a competent E-scooter rider. If they ever do ban E-scooters I think it should just be the rental scooter because most of the complaint are due to inexperienced people renting them, doing stupid things with them and then leaving them lying around blocking footpaths etc. privately owned E-scooters are not the problem and never have been.
@paulvbenson
@paulvbenson Жыл бұрын
eScooters might be ok in theory but let’s face it too many d heads around riding them too fast, weaving in and out of traffic, going through red lights, riding the wrong way up roads,etc etc.
@mattsmith4605
@mattsmith4605 Жыл бұрын
There’s a whole list of what some car drivers get up to, and they supposedly have been taught what they should be doing. So bad behaviour isn’t a w-scooter issue.
@yaboi-km2qn
@yaboi-km2qn 10 ай бұрын
We let everyone drive cars and ride bikes despite this fact.
@longzero
@longzero Жыл бұрын
Great presentation! In Montreal, it's still illegal, but there are still many people riding. Whether you get a ticket or not is a matter of whether the police has a bad day or not.
@edtuckerartist
@edtuckerartist Жыл бұрын
Pretty much like that in Wales.
@TheAefril
@TheAefril Жыл бұрын
Just like Australia, there is no cut black & white law. It is a bit rubbery like the interpretation of the arresting officer.
@juk3b0xgr1m
@juk3b0xgr1m Жыл бұрын
Ottawa is VERY pro escooter. Downtown has 2 companies renting them and I own my own. Came across a few police that just eyeballed me as I was crossing the road but if you keep off the sidewalks and don't go above 30KPH, they leave you alone. Plus, wear your safety gear and they are just great to ride around.
@TheErmerm999
@TheErmerm999 5 ай бұрын
got stopped in edinburgh last month, took them 15 minutes 3 police officers and a van to clock, My scooter doesn't have a motor on it (its a swifty kick scooter).... They never asked. They asked if I knew why I was being stopped, I had lights, a helmet and was keeping up with cyclists in the cycle lane, (not hard edinbugh being hilly). I was reassured when I was told I was not riding dangerously... A further 15 minutes and a flier on how best to submit a complaint. Waste of everyone's time.
@recordsmanukrnet
@recordsmanukrnet 22 күн бұрын
So did you get a warning in the end or fine?
@stephenblakey4913
@stephenblakey4913 Жыл бұрын
I got told by a copper in grimsby if he caught me on my scooter he'd take it off me, i laughed n told him he can't catch a chav on 2 feet so he's got no chance of catching me on my scooter 😂😂
@GreenJimll
@GreenJimll Жыл бұрын
Another thing to note is that e-scooters are being banned from carriage on trains in the UK. Chiltern Railways was promoting this earlier this week. Partly due to the fire risk of unregulated imports it seems.
@mattus1gig
@mattus1gig Жыл бұрын
Yep banned at London Liverpool st Station for Greater Anglian trains.
@goodhouse91021
@goodhouse91021 11 ай бұрын
You can’t ban someone’s possession….. if someone owns a e scooter they are 100% allowed to travel around the uk with it unles they ride on public highway, then they’d be breaking the law
@fireben123
@fireben123 10 ай бұрын
Illegal to ride it anywhere in public I'm afraid@@goodhouse91021
@anthonydyer3939
@anthonydyer3939 10 ай бұрын
… and yet in Norway signs on the trains prominently tell you you can bring them onto the train. You’re just forbidden from charging them on the train. It’s a remarkably different attitude to the same thing.
@ragingsilver
@ragingsilver Жыл бұрын
I think this issue is just so low on the governments agenda they don't care. Me personally though think they should have a speed limit and maybe do a small test like the bicycle one. This should affect any driving licenses and e-scooters should be in the same class as e-bikes. Meaning they should be able to use the cycle lanes as well since they're popping up everywhere now in London.
@alfietowner6217
@alfietowner6217 11 ай бұрын
I had this whole idea it was so simple me and my friends get electric scooters so we can get to high school easier and now I have to read a whole law book just to figure out if I can get to school comfortably 😅
@stephyboo3205
@stephyboo3205 10 ай бұрын
Sadly cars are just too expensive for alot of people now and public transport cost is also ridiculous! I just invested in an e bike that's legal on the roads because of this stupid law but I'd love an e scooter for work commutes!
@mattus1gig
@mattus1gig Жыл бұрын
I ditched my scooter when the crackdown started and went ebike. I’ve had plod try and stop me a few times but being a bearded 50yo I’ve just pinned the 1500w motor and fled.
@teggsy2165
@teggsy2165 Жыл бұрын
Why not at least let UK car licence holders ride them who have taken a test and understand traffic regulations that's what i do not understand.
@bermondseyboy416
@bermondseyboy416 Жыл бұрын
I have my own e scooter and drive it most days in and around London not been stopped so far seems like the police have bigger things to worry about till the nxt clampdown wish they would implement whatever it is there planning to do or not do at least
@fisharefriends598
@fisharefriends598 Жыл бұрын
Scooter need mandatory insurance and training and driving license. They also need to categorise scooters. The fast ones need more legislation
@paulvenneman7539
@paulvenneman7539 Жыл бұрын
most countries have, around the sitting gaspowered two wheeled motorvehicles... we're outlaws because the politicians talk much of switch to ev's but actually getting off their lazy arse and doing their job that's hard it seems ...
@jackking9271
@jackking9271 Жыл бұрын
And you are the problem
@paulvenneman7539
@paulvenneman7539 Жыл бұрын
@@jackking9271 yes, the one not buying a highly unsafe toy is the problem.
@mattsmith4605
@mattsmith4605 Жыл бұрын
@@paulvenneman7539in what way are they dangerous?
@jackking9271
@jackking9271 Жыл бұрын
@@paulvenneman7539 its a pev, should just be in the same boat as bikes its a joke
@ckirby1204
@ckirby1204 Жыл бұрын
As long as they're ridden on the road, the rider has passed a CBT and have 3rd party insurance then all good for me.
@breakit46
@breakit46 Жыл бұрын
CBT if you hold no license is hard to enforce but I agree it is a must. People need solid road sense that you get from motor bikes, cars and cycling etc, without the skills and awareness people are sitting ducks.
@toi_techno
@toi_techno Жыл бұрын
If a car hits you you'll die If a ecscooter hits you you'll get a shock They're as dangerous to third parties as a bicycle I use a scooter and as well as cycling I'm a full-time carer for my friend who's in a wheelchair We've figured out we can attach my scooter to his chair which gives us far more range and a new ability to go to places that me pushing him would just be too difficult
@ckirby1204
@ckirby1204 Жыл бұрын
@@toi_techno I'm not sure it's as closed door as that, I'd rather not get bit by either. The CBT is as much for the riders safety and understanding on the road.
@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe
@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe Жыл бұрын
CBT is designed for riding 50 and 125cc bikes.
@srgk26
@srgk26 Жыл бұрын
@@ckirby1204sure but I also cycle and I also ride rental escooters safely on a regular basis. Escooters are no more dangerous than a bike. I don’t get the need for added regulations, other than maybe the standard stuff like tyre width or battery power limit or stuff like that and get on with it.
@timnicholls9827
@timnicholls9827 Жыл бұрын
They should remain illegal unless riders pass a CBT wear helmets regulated and the riders should be heavily fined for riding on the pavement. I have been nearly knocked down 3 times by speeding scooters and they are a menace to blind or partially-sighted people.
@pooledogg775
@pooledogg775 10 ай бұрын
All for them on roads and cycle lanes, just not on pavements.
@onur-tan
@onur-tan Жыл бұрын
Jest wrap them like rental ones, youre Good To go
@bayardbray4490
@bayardbray4490 Жыл бұрын
😂
@shanepatrick641
@shanepatrick641 5 ай бұрын
Great idea!
@recordsmanukrnet
@recordsmanukrnet 22 күн бұрын
Not if you’re outside London
@davidmichael3189
@davidmichael3189 Жыл бұрын
You can ride up to a 125CC Motorcycle on a Full Car Licence it should figure that on that same Full Driving Licence you should be permitted to ride an eScooter.
@not_so_native_native
@not_so_native_native Жыл бұрын
You can ride up to 125cc on a provisional too
@oplkfdhgk
@oplkfdhgk Жыл бұрын
where can you do that? that's really cool! :)
@SteveBlakey
@SteveBlakey Жыл бұрын
@@not_so_native_native You still need to take a part 1 CBT you cannot ride until you have passed and then still need to display L plates
@yamyamdudley
@yamyamdudley 8 ай бұрын
They don't know how to TAX it... That's the only reason why we don't have them in the UK
@davidnorman5907
@davidnorman5907 Жыл бұрын
A more mature discussion would be more effective than a video full of swearing perhaps. Any lawmakers would turn off way before the end.
@mike-ology22
@mike-ology22 Жыл бұрын
You won't change anything until you figure out what the city of London corporation is and who owns it.
@byshiri1751
@byshiri1751 Жыл бұрын
Would you care to enlighten us why that's important?
@byshiri1751
@byshiri1751 Жыл бұрын
Would you care to enlighten us why that's important?
@mike-ology22
@mike-ology22 Жыл бұрын
@@byshiri1751 because its the system of the holy roman empire where they take away all of our rights through the EU and trading corporations. Also the Crown corporation to which you are a subject of, but probably have no clue you were a part of it. English traditional.common law is the only fair system of law in the world for the people. Which is why we must be destroyed. London is a proxy country and its a private corporation ;)
@mike-ology22
@mike-ology22 Жыл бұрын
@@byshiri1751 look up the city of London dark past. Its a private corporation. By voting for the Parliament we do not elect anyone, we give them our vote and they elected themselves. Just like Cameron, May, Truss, we voted for Boris and got Sunak. It's corrupt and the game is rigged ;)
@hippydude1
@hippydude1 7 ай бұрын
I've been looking for hours to find the difference between a e-scooter and a mobility scooter other than the size ect. Basically I'm struggling to walk most days and want something to get around on. I don't want a mobility scooter for loads of reasons. Now I was looking at a e scooter cos I can stand up and some you can fit a seat if needed. I don't want to risk points if the police stop me. Why can't I use a e scooter for mobility. Does anyone know?
@stevemw20
@stevemw20 2 ай бұрын
It’s pathetic the government need to sort this out. I brought mine to use as a mobility device as I am disabled Ffs come on government
@jcreswick
@jcreswick Жыл бұрын
10yo Kids can buy one of those toy ones from Argos though and ride them
@TowerGMLtdInfo
@TowerGMLtdInfo Жыл бұрын
One more things from GOV.UK. Quote "Given how powered transporters are motorised and designed, they fall within the legal definition of a “motor vehicle”. Therefore the laws that apply to motor vehicles apply to powered transporters. OK, then what about the RIde On Electric toy cars then??? Are there "motor vehicle" as well?? Could a 5 years old get £300 fine and 6 point on his/her licence?? It has a battery in it and propelled by electric motor same like in an e-scooter.
@williamirvine3648
@williamirvine3648 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the pressure, but none of us will be holding our collective breaths.Personal Electric Vehicles could help in so many ways and yet there is no mandatory training requirement or any insurance available.Instead we have the ludicrous hire schemes which allow anyone with an idiot-phone to rent a scooter with no prior knowledge of how to ride safely or any protective gear. Meanwhile people who have spent out hard earned dosh on their own scooter and have presumably gained some proficiency are totally banned. The police have already caused three deaths due to the failure to deal with the situation sensibly when it comes to young lads on ebikes. In my area we had an old lady knocked down by a scooter rider while speeding, for which he was severely punished but what was not reported was the reason he was speeding - the police were chasing him and presumably he was afraid he would lose his expensive scooter. We need a sensible way of dealing with these new forms of transport, an outright ban is making matters worse.
@MiklosTamas1997
@MiklosTamas1997 Ай бұрын
I went on a ride with my e scooter in Kent... saw few police cars they didnt gave two effs about my scooter
@joules531
@joules531 9 ай бұрын
As someone who lives in one of the trial hire zones, I tried one out; and initially thought it was a good idea. But now, I'm not so sure. Many e-scooter are abandoned in dangerous places, and thhey seem to often be ridden recklessly, causing anxiety and real risk for other road users. But the real issue is that most seem to be ridden by kids who are too young to drive, rather than actually getting drivers out of their cars. Not exactly great for the planet, and if youngsters are riding these instead of getting exercise then we may see a huge increase in the burden on the NHS in 20-40 years time. Add in the frequent fires, caused by cheap e-scooter battery packs, and it's really is debatable whether these things are such a good idea, given that a bicycle is cheaper, faster, safer, and would help keep these youngsters active in later life. And one final thing - why do these e-scooters have such tiny wheels? Surely it would be much safer to have 20" wheels, that would provide better stability, and be able to better cope with potholes.
@HanleysHatchlings
@HanleysHatchlings Жыл бұрын
It's certainly a discussion to be had as the law on bikes is you can't ride them on pavements in the UK but I've not seen anyone stopped on a bike and fined or cautioned for doing so. Also not seen anyone stopped riding an e-scooter here in the North East where i live plenty using them. So i think the concensus is the more people riding them it seems like to much hardwork on the police to stop them. The worst effected City is London from knowledge because the met are trying to set the example but it isn't working e-scooters will be legal to ride or they will just be rode illegally but police will stop all action.
@allanbroughton2708
@allanbroughton2708 11 ай бұрын
Funny you can't ride on pavements, I stopped two police officers and reminded them of that tiny little law, they told me they were exempt! I laughed and rode on the path as I left...
@HanleysHatchlings
@HanleysHatchlings 11 ай бұрын
@allanbroughton2708 typical response to not wanting to bother with that legislation because too much like hard work.
@mrichardson8642
@mrichardson8642 10 ай бұрын
I'm writing to you because I think I have a story. Escooter riders can get 6 points for riding them. I have completed freedom of information for all forces in the UK. This has told me that every police in the country is giving warnings in pocket notebooks, often no names of address and not uploaded anywhere and filed at the end of the book. If they use this as a reason to stop and search then maybe put on the system. Three times as many black Escooter riders are stopped than anyone elae and stop and searched as well. Police have been allowed to decided if they give a warning (its then filed and so no education) potentially uploaded if a stop and search. A s59 (this is a police legal caution) a written warning or six life changing points. The police have not been educating anyone. I have written to goverment and freedom of information has now be changed to a need to know basis. This a again is not what freedom of information was set up to do. I makes a mockery of the name. This is a motoring offence and a huge one. Much more financailly impactive and life changing than a speeding fine. . Every motoring offence has a clear fair and consistent process but for three years a policeman has been able to decide who and what punishment they give. This is an abuse of power and has been given by the goverment. The police as the public are aware do not always get this right. Abuse of power in every organisation. This is in my opinion a huge scandal and has allowed the police to directly/indirectly discriminate by having this power. I believe hundred of thousands have had warnings and some have had cautions. A select few have been given points. No point should be given to anyone unless a s59 (legal caution)has been given. As other Escooter riders have had this option or it has been used in a crime or in a dangerous manner that was punished at the time of the stop.
@hsppygrandpa
@hsppygrandpa Жыл бұрын
You argument is totally flawed. If it is not legal to have a throttle on an e-bike unless it’s in walk assist mode at 4.5mph. It’s ridiculous that e-bikes must be pedalled and the motor cuts out at 15mph. Too many e-scooter riders ride them with little or no regard for others.
@brushlessmotoring
@brushlessmotoring Жыл бұрын
Been watching the UK situation for a while, very dumb, I'm lucky to be here in "Sunny" Vancouver, Canada, where we have an e-scooter pilot program in a few cities, we have a few docked rental programs too (Richmond, BC) which somewhat solve the mess issue (but are pricey, just like the UK ones). We also have a decent illegal e-skate / EUC scene here too, with a legal challenge going to court to get EUCs included in the e-scooter trial. Vancouver didn't allow rentals, but may this summer - this seemed the right way round, as personal owners tend be less drunk and more responsible than renters on a bender do ....
@grahamhall8249
@grahamhall8249 10 ай бұрын
Don't keep dissing the cars, they're the ones who are paying for the upkeep of the roads!
@TheTonyMartinExperience
@TheTonyMartinExperience 11 ай бұрын
And yet mobility scooters can whizz around at speeds up to 20mph……..on the pavement!!!!!
@michaelnedsmar9106
@michaelnedsmar9106 10 ай бұрын
You can ride YOUR e scooter on the road legally , first its you need a motorbike licence if it exceeds a certain amount of power, then you need insurance and number plates.
@S-O-T
@S-O-T Жыл бұрын
Why does it say this on the electroheads website? Because it's not true every scooter has rear lights Because escooters don't (usually) comply with road traffic laws - in particular they don't have rear lights or registration plates - it's not legal to use a privately-owned scooter on a UK road. This is why it's often said that they are legal only on private land with the landowner's permission.
@Timotarius_
@Timotarius_ Жыл бұрын
i am your european neighbor The netherlands and we got even worse situation with e-scooters. they are entirely illegal and no options for rental either.
@mike-ology22
@mike-ology22 Жыл бұрын
Dutch kids ride them on bike paths nearly hitting people. Most Dutch scooters have all been tuned to go much faster too. Having bike paths doesn't guarantee the safe use for electrical vehicles. Groetjes
@Gazmaz
@Gazmaz Жыл бұрын
I love the Dutch :)
@mikelo9006
@mikelo9006 Жыл бұрын
@@mike-ology22 That is why we just need some simple requirements such as driving license or specific license for pEVS. Does it guarantee no car accidents when having a big highway, traffic light..? They simply don't bother to make regulation for the thing they don't care .
@mike-ology22
@mike-ology22 Жыл бұрын
@@mikelo9006 no we don't, that is the problem. We have driving licences and still people steal cars and drive without insurance causing accidents. It won't change anything other than create more wealth for the government. We need to change the system back to before we joined the EU. That way, we will be free
@paulvenneman7539
@paulvenneman7539 Жыл бұрын
@@mike-ology22 i regularly blaze through rotterdam on my mantis, cops don't mind.
@paulvenneman7539
@paulvenneman7539 Жыл бұрын
belgian outlaw running mantis v2 and king gt here. The toys are legal, mine should run at max 25 km/h. While i have a drivers license allowing me to roll 125cc motorcycles and fast mopeds. If the politicians where to get off their lazy arse, they can copy/paste most of it, slight editing et voila but nooooo ...
@phantombigballs8165
@phantombigballs8165 Жыл бұрын
So long as all escooters are restricted, the rider has a licence and insurance and they wear a lid then they ahould be legal. Last week i was doing 50mph on a road on my bmw r1250rs and i was overtaken by two kids on escooters.
@edtuckerartist
@edtuckerartist Жыл бұрын
Making e-scooters legal under a certain speed is the way forward. e-scooters over this limit then could only be used by adults. (Could be the same for e-bikes too)
@breakit46
@breakit46 Жыл бұрын
What is truly dreadful in these video clips of escooter riders is how they don’t move their heads and watch the whole road, instead they stand looking forwards waiting for what’s round the corner to present itself instead of looking around and being prepared. These riders look like they don’t drive or have a bike license and zero road sense, riding defensively by being switched on. I have a Solar P1 so I am Pro escooter but I worry about the untrained road users.
@Leo-gt1bx
@Leo-gt1bx Жыл бұрын
Pedestrians are worse
@djneils100
@djneils100 Жыл бұрын
the problem with escooters sadly is the people that tend to ride them. it is so common to see dickheads bombing along the pavement on them or riding them 2's up
@snoopycharlie8718
@snoopycharlie8718 7 ай бұрын
Why, in some EU countries are e-scooters allowed a throttle but ebikes are not even if max speed and Kw motor is the same?!
@Asad-2166
@Asad-2166 10 ай бұрын
Start making petitions and flood the parliament with it that should help 😊
@temorinkaari
@temorinkaari Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in Lithuania the government wants to band e-scooters from riding anywhere but on bike lanes. No streets, no sidewalks, just bike lanes. If a bike lane ends - good luck walking a few km until you find another bike lane. And on mixed walking/bike lanes, if a person is walking at 7km/h speed, you can't pass them
@DifferentGearTV
@DifferentGearTV 10 ай бұрын
The problem with hire scooters in Spain is that they are left in the most stupid places, blocking pavements etc. People have started vandalising them because they have had enough. Then you get the idiots riding them 2 up, cutting up cars and giving no signals when turning. Ban them all.
@adamosman2142
@adamosman2142 Жыл бұрын
Grant Schnapps 😂 pull your finger out Grant!
@StitchesLovesRats
@StitchesLovesRats 10 ай бұрын
2:30 - Inokim Quick 4. That's what I have. Had to waterproof it myself (sealant in all the seams), and I covered the whole deck in grip tape. Can be unlocked to 26MPH. It's a good way to get to work and back.
@goofyahhh254
@goofyahhh254 10 ай бұрын
I have the Nami Klima 30Ah here in Barnsley 😳. Also mainly for work
@StitchesLovesRats
@StitchesLovesRats 10 ай бұрын
@@goofyahhh254 just so long as you can ride faster than a copper can run, don't get cornered, don't ride dangerously, and stay alert for red and blue lights, you should be okay.
@malbig2344
@malbig2344 Жыл бұрын
I was hit by one in Cambridge the other week when I was helping to set up Strawberry Fair, There were approx 5 of us standing at the 4 lamps (if you know, you know) with a lot more people on the paths, including young kids, when this idiot fly's past doing at least 20mph. I was on my bike and he hit my back tire, he nearly came off after hitting me and going into a speed wobble, unfortunately, he did not fall, but he was about to have a go at me when I shouted at him you are going too fast. |he gave the bird and scooted off. These people have no interest in keeping others safe, the issue is not if they are street legal but why are they behaving like such utter cvnts.
@Google_Does_Evil_Now
@Google_Does_Evil_Now Жыл бұрын
How are you setting up a fair while on your bike? If you're on your bike and he's on his, maybe you need to tell more details because at the moment I'm not convinced you're not partly at fault.
@billmiller4068
@billmiller4068 Жыл бұрын
The law says no escorted on public footpaths or roads. On shared paths cyclists should give way to pedestrians. Many cyclists and eScooter riders use pavements as if it is their right. It is so uplifting when riders are switched on an use consideration and courtesy. An elderly woman was killed by a scooter rider in Notts though to his credit he stayed till emergency services arrived. Also, the roads are not safe for eScooters especially with their small wheels and the prevelance of potholes. There is a lot to consider before this issue can be sorted out.
@abelfaber4457
@abelfaber4457 Жыл бұрын
@@billmiller4068 if the roads are not save and full of potholes, you don't ban the vehicles using it, no you fix the damn roads.
@malbig2344
@malbig2344 Жыл бұрын
​@@Google_Does_Evil_Now I show traders where to go, hence the bike. I was stationary at the time and turning the bike around when blam... Do you also want information on how to kiss my fecking arse?
@malbig2344
@malbig2344 Жыл бұрын
@@davidmoomoo I was not cycling at the time, I was sitting on my bike.
@Laurynas_LTU
@Laurynas_LTU Жыл бұрын
In Lithuania, the goverment is cracking down on e-scooters and restricting their use on public roads. Previously the up to 25 kmph 1 kW ones were classified as exactly as bicycles. However, this month they made it illegal to ride them (e-scooters) on pavement and in Vilnius they even lowered the speed limit in the Old Town (the historical part of the city centre) down to 12 kmph and outright banned e-scooters and bicycles in three important streets. When I tell people I ride a motorbike they say "it's dangerous". Oh my God! People, come on! The mode of transport is not dangerous or safe - it's just a bunch of materials fused together. We, riders/drivers are dangerous. Bicycles have been in use for decades and nobody deemed them dangerous. We need to stop treating restricted e-scooters as toys and start using them as bicycles, and everything will be fine. What do we do with car drivers that break the highway code laws? We issue fines. The same should apply to dangerous hooligans on e-scooters. Sorry for the rant. I'm not even an e-scooter rider, I'm not even a fan of them (I prefer bicycles and motorbikes). But I'm for equal rights and opportunities. Electroheads, keep advocating for e-scooter normalisation.
@aliruane
@aliruane Жыл бұрын
Great video. Love your style bruh
@user-zh9kc7tw4n
@user-zh9kc7tw4n 2 ай бұрын
Someone may wonder if someone is getting something in the back pocket to keep a monopoly for the large companies..
@justharryjohnson7250
@justharryjohnson7250 6 ай бұрын
You can legally use a e scooter on the streets. You just need to know the law
@recyclist6421
@recyclist6421 3 ай бұрын
just got back from norway where i was holidaying. Used rentede e-scooters and i can confirm they are brilliant for short urban journeys. especially if the area is hilly. no problems encountrered what so ever and everyone seemed responsible. why can't the UK get with programme, so infuriating. The more i go on vacation the more i despise the uk and its luddite ways
@chris26087
@chris26087 Жыл бұрын
I would use my e scooter but points on a professional driving licence is a big no so have to use the car to put down the shop
@andrewpollock8464
@andrewpollock8464 Жыл бұрын
On a green environmental pov I would much rather use my scooter on the road than my family saloon
@nicholasmassey6941
@nicholasmassey6941 11 ай бұрын
It’s come to my findings, as a massive Rental user, that the scooter transport needs to be national and not localised. The local government in Birmingham have made a right phuck up with the new provider, beryl. Voi was so much better. The scheme needs to be ran on a national level as the local governments are hiring that many different companies, there’s no consistency. Birmingham has shown it cannot grasp the basics, and I’ve been told tried to ditch the whole thing, irrespective of Europe being so successful. They are clueless.
@ferrarikingF50
@ferrarikingF50 Жыл бұрын
in the Netherlands is still not allowed!
@maciejpsyk
@maciejpsyk Жыл бұрын
It's all about attitude. Bicycles have been invented in the 19 century so made part of the transport landscape for generations. And viola - they are exempted from the 1988 Road Traffic Act. Even weak ebikes have been excluded in 1990s as extension of mechanical bicycles. Electric scooters on the other hand are less than a decade old. They simply exploded recently before our very eyes and catered their significant niche by storm. And the law is utterly unprepared for that. Like the USA for Barack Obama before Barack Obama. But the distinction between bicycles and electric scooters is almost absurd. The law should treat them equally - first and foremost as legal to use as intended ie. on the road, and with the same set of rules.
@mrichardson8642
@mrichardson8642 10 ай бұрын
See my comment above ut a scandal and share pls
@zainsyed9811
@zainsyed9811 8 ай бұрын
What about just making your scooter look like a Lime scooter? 😂
@burieddeepbetween
@burieddeepbetween 8 ай бұрын
You should have had a chat about Australia mate, we are like 7 or 8 different countries here, each state is different it's completely mad
@robertowen6499
@robertowen6499 9 ай бұрын
These contraptions are hazards to pedestrians and road vehicles in general. In Britain our roads and pavements are not designed to accommodate E Scooters safefly.Even if the infrastructure was set up for them it would be logical for the people who would ride them to need full insurance and also to pass an approved road test.People and property have already been hurt and damaged through their use and fatalities have also been known.
@gaborhertelendy
@gaborhertelendy 6 ай бұрын
The road networks in the UK aren't designed to accommodate car traffic either.
@firstthingsfast9292
@firstthingsfast9292 Жыл бұрын
I like what Austria has done. I think the same should be here. Fact about UK is when something new comes along they want GREAT BRITTISH PURLEY 100% BRITTISH DATA. Hopefully soon.
@davidhumphries3614
@davidhumphries3614 Жыл бұрын
I understand UK legislation is prepared. It just needs Parliamentary time allocated to it, which is scarce at the moment.
@alanjackson4646
@alanjackson4646 Жыл бұрын
The two parties are so busy nitpicking and biting each other’s a7ses, pathetic.
@edtuckerartist
@edtuckerartist Жыл бұрын
Having licences and proficiency tests is all well and good but how would it be policed and how would police know if a rider had these unless the rider was riding dangerously, erratically or was involved in an incident? There are always going to be those that will ignore the laws anyway.
@realhass
@realhass Жыл бұрын
my licence is my job, I won't ride e-scooter until the law is absolutely clear.
@rash1k
@rash1k 5 ай бұрын
in Kyiv, Ukraine we have the best e-scooter law :) no A1 needed, no speed limit, no problem:) I drive Segway GT2 👽
@jimmyodriscoll9273
@jimmyodriscoll9273 7 ай бұрын
What next me 90 year old auntie needs a licence for her electric wheelchair "bloody" government..😝🖕
@NT-hr3eu
@NT-hr3eu Жыл бұрын
legislation? it's legal to buy and sell e-scooters...there is obviously soo much private land out there for all these scooters! 😂 aren't escooters (the slow ones) the same a mobility scooters?
@smoking566
@smoking566 Жыл бұрын
It’s a disgrace people need CBT helmets personal liability insurance and the government sitting about doing nothing
@stewartj00701
@stewartj00701 Жыл бұрын
Less legislation, they need to be doing everything they possibly can to get folk out of cars traveling with ultra low emmisions, should be a free for all with scooters, ebikes, skateboards etc limited to 15mph, scooters, ebikes etc above 15mph up to 40mph max riders need a current UK car or bike driving license and insurance. simple.
@barryjatkinson
@barryjatkinson 9 ай бұрын
Please double-check the "facts" here. In European countries like ours, e-scooters remain illegal. In countries where they are allowed, strict rules apply. In Spain, they are about to get stricter. In Hungary you need a moped licence etc and there's plenty of stuff out there about the horrendous accidents in Budapest. Please check elsewhere for the facts.
@gaborhertelendy
@gaborhertelendy 6 ай бұрын
A moped licence in Hungary can be obtained over 14 years old. And whatever category of driving license one had, it includes the moped category. Mopeds don't need numberplates either.
@jamieturnage9511
@jamieturnage9511 5 ай бұрын
you need some one to talk to the king directly maybe he will do something to change these unfair scooter laws or get some one who will .
@RammbockK
@RammbockK Ай бұрын
you buy escooter and paint it like a rental ;-)
@davidcolin6519
@davidcolin6519 Жыл бұрын
Spain d oes classify e-scooters as Personal Mobility devices, but it is not as simple as that. They are effectively treated like bicycles, which means that high power, high speed e-scooters may result in being classified as motorbikes, just as high power, high speed e-bikes can be. Personally, I am far from being convinced of the road worthiness of e-scooters. That is because I am a scientist at heart, and the small wheels on e-scooters makes them inherently less stable, and less capable of dealing with bumps and other irregularities.I do understand that e-scooters are much easier to store etc. than a bicycle, but the basic physical problems of stability worry me.
@krana986
@krana986 Жыл бұрын
The Singapore law at least if they enforce it, means its a pretty good deterrent 😂
@allanbroughton2708
@allanbroughton2708 11 ай бұрын
Gets that message across, being responsible is a must on one of these.
@nickdijcj1
@nickdijcj1 Жыл бұрын
I like this kid he's got balls!
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