ELECTRONIC IS A TEAM RUINER / JL IS BETTER THAN NERTZ!? - Hot Take Point Made 26

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Last Free Nation Counter-Strike

Last Free Nation Counter-Strike

Күн бұрын

Thorin, kassad, and Mauisnake react to the HooXi benching announcement and swap hot takes on electroNic, cadiaN, Team Liquid, Furia, s1mple, Team Falcons, Heroic and NAVI.
This episode was recorded before the snax to G2 announcement.
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Hot Take Point Made is a Counter-Strike talk show, hosted by Duncan "Thorin" Shields, Alex "Mauisnake" Ellenberg, and Aleksandar "kassad" Trifunović, where each host brings their hottest takes for the group to discuss.
This video was recorded on the 2nd of July, 2024.
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0:00:00 - Intro
0:02:14 - HooXi benched from G2
0:04:02 - eletroNic is a team ruiner
0:26:27 - cadiaN will never IGL a top 5 team again
0:37:59 - Team Liquid will not improve until 2025
0:57:31 - The upcoming TL roster will be worse
1:03:09 - Furia will make top 8 at a LAN this year
1:13:09 - s1mple will be in NAVI by the Shanghai Major
1:23:16 - Falcons won't finish 2024 in top 20 on HLTV & ESL rankings
1:33:19 - Heroic will make the final of a big event this year
1:40:30 - Heroic's roster is better than NAVI's
#counterstrike
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Пікірлер: 159
@Logains454
@Logains454 Ай бұрын
Can we get a mic sponsor for Kassad please lol. Sometimes it’s just atrocious.
@maaarcus7227
@maaarcus7227 Ай бұрын
Nah it adds character to the show. Wouldn't be the same without underwater kassad.
@Helv3tii
@Helv3tii Ай бұрын
@@Logains454 I’ll literally ship him a mic at this point 🤣
@ThePsyco234
@ThePsyco234 Ай бұрын
@@maaarcus7227 😂😂
@svsv1191
@svsv1191 Ай бұрын
@@Helv3tii do it :
@djmarsupiaI
@djmarsupiaI Ай бұрын
Are you insane?
@AllSeeingTaco
@AllSeeingTaco Ай бұрын
People think Kassad's best min/maxing work is on BLEED, it's not. It is on his microphone.
@perrohuevo1059
@perrohuevo1059 Ай бұрын
kassad telling electronic to shut up and dribble is so real
@josephdegrazia9028
@josephdegrazia9028 Ай бұрын
kassad using jesus to back maui into a corner is hilarious💀
@samuelbelko6469
@samuelbelko6469 28 күн бұрын
Timestamp?
@tiosuke38
@tiosuke38 28 күн бұрын
​@@samuelbelko64691:43:45
@matthewcady5945
@matthewcady5945 27 күн бұрын
@@samuelbelko6469 1:43:00 for context, 1:43:47 for the quote
@KemonoFriendsOfficial
@KemonoFriendsOfficial Ай бұрын
I kinda liked the thumbnails more when it was Thorin leaning back in his chair laughing, kassad looking angry, and Maui showing off his pearly whites. Felt like "I wanna click that video, look how much fun they're having!"
@cd2194
@cd2194 Ай бұрын
the thumbnail needs to entice new viewers tho so i think its not bad
@lucsalander
@lucsalander 29 күн бұрын
i love when Thorin is leaning back in his chair laughing, he has the best laughing face
@___UN
@___UN 29 күн бұрын
yeah the new thumbnails are ass, old ones were immediately recognisable as well
@tigerjoseph
@tigerjoseph 29 күн бұрын
Maybe make them more similar to the Four Play thumbnails
@Noseflap-watching
@Noseflap-watching 25 күн бұрын
I think the videos do better as well ngl. I like the current thumbnails more for this channel.
@schmeed0000
@schmeed0000 Ай бұрын
i am convinced that -mir +electronic was a bigger contributor to norbert's drop-off than the map pool rotation
@melbifk
@melbifk 28 күн бұрын
The more Thorin hypes his take the more chill it is 😂
@vinceington2540
@vinceington2540 Ай бұрын
best show on the fucking planet. King Thorin.
@wintc
@wintc Ай бұрын
Came to the comments to say precisely this.
@KerplunkTM
@KerplunkTM Ай бұрын
even jesus is watching
@vedser
@vedser Ай бұрын
@@KerplunkTM im sure Jame likes Thorins content
@xinpa
@xinpa Ай бұрын
Even the title for the video is insane, ready for the ride lmao
@TylerNeyman
@TylerNeyman Ай бұрын
"JESUS IS WATCHING" - Aleksandar "kassad" Trifunović
@yay1788
@yay1788 Ай бұрын
1:42:55 the quintessential htpm moment
@schmeed0000
@schmeed0000 Ай бұрын
every fucking time lmao
@qwkolds5887
@qwkolds5887 29 күн бұрын
5:16 seeing thorin laughing at his own joke privately before sharing is great
@Danny-iq8rv
@Danny-iq8rv Ай бұрын
Im just happy that kassad can still be friends with NiKo😂
@Malibuthe6th
@Malibuthe6th Ай бұрын
Kassad underwater is a staple on this show
@vishalmalireddi4932
@vishalmalireddi4932 Ай бұрын
I was not expecting Maui to light the whole show on fire after saying JL is better than Nertz 😂
@chibifirestorm
@chibifirestorm Ай бұрын
he is though, in CS2. Really don't see how you can argue otherwise
@1Bulgarian
@1Bulgarian Ай бұрын
The people need an episode of HTPM, but after every hot take, Maui, kassad and Thorin take a shot of alcohol. Even better if they could do it in an IRL environment. Imagine the later takes..
@cbenzmc4342
@cbenzmc4342 Ай бұрын
Kassad: “Maui your so stupid that take is SUPER hot”
@thyson228
@thyson228 Ай бұрын
Banger, can't wait for the next episode of Hot Take Sanity Check
@d1MnZz
@d1MnZz 29 күн бұрын
I love how the episode was pretty tame for like 95% but then all hell broke loose.
@ogKalmari
@ogKalmari Ай бұрын
This is the best combination ever on cs podcast!!
@Martin-zn5hk
@Martin-zn5hk Ай бұрын
considering G2 just got Snax to igl, and previously Hooxi, I think it's possible Cadian can get into a top team (not that he necessarily should)
@alexkennedy6493
@alexkennedy6493 Ай бұрын
Is it just me whose disappointed that kassad doesnt have a goodbye hooxi poster/banner of some kind :D
@vinceington2540
@vinceington2540 Ай бұрын
yeah its just you with the humour of a toddler
@alexkennedy6493
@alexkennedy6493 Ай бұрын
@@vinceington2540 Nah merely referring to the back and forth between kassad and hooxi in general, but i gotta say your insult was a poor if im honest, however feel free to try again im sure you will get it right next time. :)
@AM2K2
@AM2K2 Ай бұрын
He is being magnanimous in victory 🤣
@sh1nenkai258
@sh1nenkai258 29 күн бұрын
he is signed to an org and has to keep some professionalism
@TonyKalashnikov
@TonyKalashnikov 25 күн бұрын
@@alexkennedy6493 I guess since Jesus is watching he will not kick a man while he is down, just sow some seeds now and reap them when this g2 lineup makes a final or wins a lan 😂🙏
@maleficluna7638
@maleficluna7638 Ай бұрын
Man, HTPM is by far the best CS podcast and it's not even close, every episode is just so entertaining and funny, and I feel like it's only getting better every single time, it's just so good lmao, the last 10 mins were jooookes
@Vexian
@Vexian 29 күн бұрын
the boomch joke had me rolling
@karioa2346
@karioa2346 29 күн бұрын
we need the freeze pipe back and sponsoring this show
@dunemeister5718
@dunemeister5718 27 күн бұрын
At 1:43:01 Kassad spinning around to look up at Maui’s window when he says “jL is better than Nertz” is gold
@Onomynn
@Onomynn Ай бұрын
Cheers Duncan, everytime i get onto Yt theres a new pod with your head in the corner! The grind is commendable! Big up the mandem
@MrMatom55
@MrMatom55 Ай бұрын
The streak of show uploads is insane 🔥
@olsaaan
@olsaaan 29 күн бұрын
This show just gets better and better
@floofy1
@floofy1 26 күн бұрын
last segment was the real flamethrower LOL
@melodic_ez0657
@melodic_ez0657 Ай бұрын
Back to the og thumbnail, nice
@fyroe
@fyroe 28 күн бұрын
"You know when you find yourself at a strangers house in the middle of the night?" No Kassad...
@billykhoabillykhoa7844
@billykhoabillykhoa7844 Ай бұрын
Jesus is watching, gun to my head, this is the best cs show of all time
@TTVShm0l
@TTVShm0l 26 күн бұрын
If these 3 were on a desk together it would be the best tournament ever.
@Aapee1
@Aapee1 Ай бұрын
JL in arena games 3rd best ranked player by rating. Only donk and monesy top him
@xlgapelsin6173
@xlgapelsin6173 Ай бұрын
Well he hasn't played a ton in arena games tho
@romaliop
@romaliop Ай бұрын
@@xlgapelsin6173 Well FaZe is basically the only team that has.
@F1stzz
@F1stzz 29 күн бұрын
@@romaliop Vitality as well
@Aapee1
@Aapee1 29 күн бұрын
@@xlgapelsin6173 Zywoo 13 maps JL 14 maps, jl 1,31 zywoo 1,27. Not counting ESL pro league here but doubt it would change it
@Aapee1
@Aapee1 28 күн бұрын
@@xlgapelsin6173 JL 14 maps Zywoo 13 maps, not counting Pro league. JL 1,31 zywhoo 1,27
@user-wx6mi5xh7w
@user-wx6mi5xh7w 29 күн бұрын
Instant classic of an episode. So much hilarious moments.
@Zeilar
@Zeilar Ай бұрын
Perfect timing for all the recent news!
@ppnomula
@ppnomula Ай бұрын
sadly they recorded it before the snax pickup according to the description. We'll have to wait for next ep :)
@McChickenJOI
@McChickenJOI Ай бұрын
​@@ppnomulai was fucking dying to hear kassad talk about it. Dying.
@McChickenJOI
@McChickenJOI Ай бұрын
​@@ppnomulamy anticipation for it was building for the entire podcast, just for the edging session to end in disappointment, an orgasm denied.
@whitedaniel53
@whitedaniel53 28 күн бұрын
Suprise beak face at the end
@ernyzaz
@ernyzaz Ай бұрын
Nertz disapeared in 2024. jL is way better this year
@user-pu9nk1wb9z
@user-pu9nk1wb9z Ай бұрын
good takes by Maui and Thoorin as usual
@fingersfingers9631
@fingersfingers9631 Ай бұрын
regali is currently benched on entropiq, if he’s cheap he could be an interesting gamble pick up for liquid
@schmeed0000
@schmeed0000 Ай бұрын
they want some polish nonamer
@fingersfingers9631
@fingersfingers9631 29 күн бұрын
yeah i saw that i mean he’s probably free and liquid won’t do much in the next 6 months i don’t hate it tbh
@onecon7745
@onecon7745 29 күн бұрын
Actual banter I love it
@malooft
@malooft 29 күн бұрын
The boombl4 reference was fkn golden
@tech4172
@tech4172 Ай бұрын
The ending is hilarious 😂😂
@SLiiNKee
@SLiiNKee Ай бұрын
I don’t get how Thorins guests never say something about him interrupting them. It’s sooo much 😂😂
@3tthree
@3tthree Ай бұрын
Thats the nature of the show, just to jump into convos when you have something spicy or a hot take
@stef9019
@stef9019 Ай бұрын
You must be new here
@pinkocean310
@pinkocean310 13 күн бұрын
​@@stef9019Listening to Thorin for a decade really does that to you.
@GTheGecko
@GTheGecko Ай бұрын
What is this timing, just finished newest talking counter ep and wanted to listen to some more!
@dari191
@dari191 Ай бұрын
Ive been waiting for this. Lets fucking go
@thijmenvanderkolk9033
@thijmenvanderkolk9033 Ай бұрын
sooo hypedddd
@Wolfenstein9000
@Wolfenstein9000 Ай бұрын
JESUS IS WATCHING
@t3h51d3w1nd3r
@t3h51d3w1nd3r Ай бұрын
I fucking love this show, just when you think a hot take or the show is winding down some absolute fire blind sides you.
@gbrowning2749
@gbrowning2749 28 күн бұрын
i'm sorry but that last take is outrageous
@TonyKalashnikov
@TonyKalashnikov 26 күн бұрын
Jesus is watching 😂 Kassad is hilarious man
@dylanc9173
@dylanc9173 29 күн бұрын
That last Boobl4 take was out of pocket 😂
@Doverbendoverben
@Doverbendoverben 29 күн бұрын
The jl, nertz bomb at the end was a great ending!!!!
@exaqtian
@exaqtian Ай бұрын
The Mars Rover
@azimaini
@azimaini 28 күн бұрын
the whole pandemonium that went down towards the end of the video
@JulleCS2
@JulleCS2 29 күн бұрын
Hahahah i thought of the exact same scenario with the typical action movie guy with shades just walking away from absolutely destroyed areas (that he destroyed btw) great minds think alike thorin .. and cheers for all this content during the off-season
@l3v886
@l3v886 Ай бұрын
best show in biz
@U4eUh
@U4eUh 27 күн бұрын
Last 30 mins banger fn episode
@iamsadlmao4415
@iamsadlmao4415 Ай бұрын
Masterpiece
@FireBreathingg
@FireBreathingg Ай бұрын
1:48:00 , THOORIN SMASHING XD
@zizzyballuba4373
@zizzyballuba4373 Ай бұрын
nertz is a DISASTER in LANs do NOT check his LAN record
@wintc
@wintc Ай бұрын
Ngl nertz and xertion overrated. Flamez and spinx clear. And possibly Heavygod if he can do it on LAN
@ceoherohub2584
@ceoherohub2584 Ай бұрын
@@wintcXertion is just a choker. Nertz’s fall off needs to be studied. He was cracked in csgo.
@kahda
@kahda 27 күн бұрын
Kassad getting absolutely infuriated at Maui when he makes a hot take (point of the show) is main reason why this is entertaining. I just can't take Kassad seriously bro xD.
@xlgapelsin6173
@xlgapelsin6173 Ай бұрын
Feels like Elec needed S1mple to keep the ego in check. "hey sasha i wann-" NO
@7limey
@7limey 29 күн бұрын
Thoron if you make hot take point made merch I will buy it
@heatedgamermoment
@heatedgamermoment Ай бұрын
Jesus is watching!!!! 🤣
@marni2k
@marni2k Ай бұрын
surely theres no way they top last episode (im still in tears over it😂), lets see
@sh1nenkai258
@sh1nenkai258 29 күн бұрын
interesting that kassad said they almost got degster, wondering if this is beginning of the year or whilst they were getting nawk and jkaem duo from apeks
@lukasgardner2647
@lukasgardner2647 Ай бұрын
Never clicked so fast.
@AniMajin
@AniMajin Ай бұрын
01:42:52 kassad's face lmao
@citiboi90
@citiboi90 Ай бұрын
And the turn around when nertz vs jl 😂
@MusHrOOmsonaCid
@MusHrOOmsonaCid 29 күн бұрын
thorin the real BARGOD
@borofreak
@borofreak Ай бұрын
1:31:00 - Yeah, we all have learned that this is not a hot take. That's some sweet insider knowledge being dropped.
@sh1nenkai258
@sh1nenkai258 29 күн бұрын
nertz > jL recency bias may say jL but you have to consider the nertz was carrying heroic with nicodoz for some time, and also once degster gets comfy it will allow stability in the lineup and more consistent pefomrance for nertz to show his 2023 form
@lipaalbanka
@lipaalbanka Ай бұрын
Come on we need new episode just for snax in g2
@klmknop
@klmknop 28 күн бұрын
1:43:00 LMFAO
@Horatiusxa
@Horatiusxa Ай бұрын
Here’s my own hot take. In 2-3 years Navi will go back to an all Ukrainian lineup. I’ll do you one better and try to predict the lineup. Wonderful (up and coming awper), bit (skilled passive rifler), simple (skilled aggressive hybrid), zontix (anchor), and igl… either sdy or npl. I wanna see the fireworks with simple under one of those guys igling, could be so entertaining. I realize it seems a bit ridiculous now but that’s my hot take for you
@jianchen7450
@jianchen7450 27 күн бұрын
s1mple the is gonna be the igl or electronic
@Horatiusxa
@Horatiusxa 27 күн бұрын
@@jianchen7450 could be even better hahaha
@NoradNoxtus
@NoradNoxtus 29 күн бұрын
I'm with thorin, electronic wanting to IGL seems unlikely if you follow the train of thought. It seems more like the team doesn't want Jame to call and Jame putting it out there is maybe a hail mary protest against the idea because he knows how the community will react to it but internally that's what they want at this point.
@kiwi5265
@kiwi5265 29 күн бұрын
okay all jokes are good but thoring caling Twitzts a "Skinny guy" in 2024 in wild 147:30
@MisbehavingChild
@MisbehavingChild 29 күн бұрын
1:42:59 😂😂😂
@cristianonacort1217
@cristianonacort1217 27 күн бұрын
Btw, shot out to MISTER X 😂😂😂
@zide6036
@zide6036 29 күн бұрын
Liquid needs adren back he was such an underrated coach
@autisticbidan2303
@autisticbidan2303 Ай бұрын
1:43:10 LMAO
@darquark1239
@darquark1239 29 күн бұрын
Banger. Not the biggest fan of the new thumbnail. Maui really thinks jL is better than NertZ lmfao, loving the Heroic/NertZ glazing from Thorin. That was the sauce the previous couple dry sandwich episodes were missing.
@realoctavian
@realoctavian Ай бұрын
SLAMMM HIMMMMMMMMM
@elem_nt
@elem_nt Ай бұрын
Well now the take should be did b1ad3 ruin electronic by making him IGL Navi
@evanroy4143
@evanroy4143 Ай бұрын
I’m just starting this episode NO WAY jL is better than nertz imo LOL. Let’s see if I can be convinced otherwise
@falcon20243
@falcon20243 Ай бұрын
I couldn't make myself watch VP games, electronic has made them more interesting to watch and it will increase their stock among fans. VP lost their best map in the pool few months ago, they need a change to be relevant and they realize that.
@dmitrykim3096
@dmitrykim3096 29 күн бұрын
Jame to Liquid and Vp tanks with Elec
@puneethreddy2902
@puneethreddy2902 Ай бұрын
JL is better
@PEPERPAINSLULW
@PEPERPAINSLULW 15 күн бұрын
whos the girl that yuurih is dating?
@zxneaky
@zxneaky 25 күн бұрын
JESUS IS IN THE ROOM
@Frogesh
@Frogesh 28 күн бұрын
Electronic ruined his career. Played with the GOAT of cs for 5 years straight while also being in his own prime. then after boombl4 was benched, FOR SOME REASON HE DECIDED TO IGL WHILE BEING A TOP 5 PLAYER. Then not only was he awful as a caller, but also wasn't a leader causing the team to have absolutely horrible chemistry, also causing SDY and Npl mistreatment. Electronic almost never did interviews (even tho he knows English good enough) even tho he was the goddamn igl so he wasn't taking any responsibility as a leader. EXACT same thing he did in C9, thankfully him joining caused shiro bench and eventually move to spirit causing them to fire up so I guess we can thank him for that. But after two years of elec igling and rotting away his skillsets, he joins vp and everyone else is like he is the rifler as he was back in 2021? Hes not even top 20 anymore.
@tejmazwei
@tejmazwei 29 күн бұрын
Jesus is watching xD
@Swingpassfromthecorner
@Swingpassfromthecorner Ай бұрын
1:43:00 is this really that much of a hot take, jL has been money when it matters. Also Kassad just moving the goal posts over and over lol.
@Ficii1
@Ficii1 Ай бұрын
I mean, too bad he's not been money to get them to the point that matters.
@luckstur
@luckstur Ай бұрын
W
@MoonIronTR
@MoonIronTR 29 күн бұрын
deadass nertz getting massively overrated done literally nothing in cs2 meanwhile jl is major mvp and had 1.23 in blast spring
@g1tno
@g1tno 29 күн бұрын
kassad really loses the plot sometimes and its maddening really but also its why we are all here
@cowboyevan
@cowboyevan 29 күн бұрын
Taz is ruining esports history
@itzgin3290
@itzgin3290 Ай бұрын
These players have such a huge ego because people put such insane 'price tags' on them and their buyouts/contracts, it's 100% the fault of the orgs paying such insane salaries early on and just burning through VC money. And orgs wonder why they aren't profitable lol, when they burn so much on players and a lot don't even have merch/content/etc, even then the players act like babies and cry about having to do media days, it's WILD.
@Isitar
@Isitar Ай бұрын
lol, Kassad just hate Falcons - lol, cannot take anything he says about them, serius. Just remember the last shows he has been on, pure hate. Ofc they will be in top 20. So Falcons got screwed by his buddy Niko, both of them probably still laugh their ass off by the stunt they pulled. But, actually, I personally, just pitty them - a bit like Astralis when they f up Heroic with their shananigans and stabbi. In my world, the Astralis org has taken a hit - will newer be the same, no matter the resaults.
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