Was literally just thinking that hahahaah

Thing might change if Sequential releases a new replacement for its legendary DSI Tempest in August 2020.

don't forget larry david

I thought i was watching Orbital and Moby after they let themselves go xD

Me too!

Happy to read this as I'm debating pulling the trigger on a used MK1

​@@ryanjapan yeah, it's a keeper. The alternative would be a Digitakt + RD-9 + RD-8 combo, but you miss out on p-locks on the drum machine then

+Mitch Gurowitz Wtf? No it does'nt? haha

+Bannazkit Naturally I was attempting humor. IKEA means back ordered! (I have all 3 Elektron currently at home, but when I wrote that comment, it was in a very dry period when all were in fact, out of stock.

Mitch Gurowitz haha amazing

Funny as hell lol!!!

another question : can we tweak everything in a patern during jam session and come back to init parameters of the patern by just tap on a button as the Machindrum do ?

+Alias Maurice 725? who did you steal it from? haha the cheapest i see them is like 13-1400 new. Or even 100 used? your buddy have any more 750 units? lol

Go to the elektronauts forum website and ask any questions there.

I hear you about the small crappy screen. I have an Analog Four and I can say the screen is adequate but a bigger & better quality screen would be most welcome. It almost seams like Electron doesn't listen to there customers because people have been complaining about the Analog Four screen from day one and once again here is another box with the same screen.

mattsynth They may have tons of them on storage. They have to use them all before going on to OLED. I can guarante that a big screen can be bad too. My now long gone (dumped) Kronos had so small letters I could not use it without gettting an ache in my back. They ignore older people (48 is old?), who have all the money, these days.

Imagine the A4 or this drum machine with an OP-1 screen. That would be awesome.

Daniel Davis The thing is, It has nothing to do with the sound of the machine. A screen more like the OP-1 would rise the price nuts, while it's likely not necessary.

...because the point of the device is to be used without looking at the screen much.

mikenagol69 MD can do up to 16 tracks if I recall correctly. Octatrack has 8 midi sequences in addition to the 8 audio sample tracks. Monomachine can have midi out on any of it's 6 tracks too I think. Rytm can't. I believe the A4/Keys can do midi in place of an internal sound as well. I just picked up an Octatrack as my new master clock/sequencer. It's great after getting your head around the way it's arranger section works.

Yes, the audio signal is 100 percent analog.

***** now if you cut all the extras and just released a plain old drumcomputer being just a drumcomputer in a basic housing with basic functions, simple but proper, you could probably reduce the price by almost 1000 Euro and make rather poor guys like me happy too...

Goth108 I see your point. But this box is a complete machine - does not need any other gear to operate while giving years of audio adventure and this is what an Elektron box should do!

The Digitakt is the most affordable instrument Elektron has made, and it's far from basic. I love mine and will love it even more when they finally release Overbridge.

I have the Octatrack, and it's pretty confusing. I'm planning to sell it. This looks a lot more straight-forward. If you were planning on doing realtime sampling, the OT can do some crazy stuff in that realm, but if you want a simpler sample playback and drum machine, probably go with this.

dalasv From the amount of videos i have watched of the Octatrack, i have kinda got an idea of the workflow (obviously need to get one to find out). Think i might go for the Octatrack as i can control my hardware via midi with it, can use single cycle waveforms with it and will probably start using it live. Plus i would love to be completely "out of the box".

Jimma Jam Can't go wrong with the octatrack.. depends on your background but I figured it out in a couple days. Within the hour I was making my own beats on it. So it just depends how you click with it and watching the online tutorials is a good way to go. Great manual too, very easy to follow.If you found it confusing I'm guess you didn't RTFM.

inf0tr8r I did read the manual and the various user written help texts on the user forum. I figured it out fine, I just think the workflow gets in my way too much, and it's easy to forget how to do something on it if you haven't used it in a while. The thing that annoys me the most about it is the file system. The way it's set up, you can end up screwing up one song if you change something at the "Project" level. There are ways around it, but I just prefer systems where each song is self-contained.

fair enough, I think it's an amazing machine and live with the things I can't change

808 has 10 outputs

I won't lie, it would have been nice to have more outs without having to wait 6 months or more for Overbridge, but with 808s going for about $3500 on eBay, I don't think anyone can argue that the additional outputs you'd get are worth another $2000 over the feature-stacked Rytm.

Fair enough. The tr-8 has 4 outs, but it's only $499. I love it so far, but will not be getting rid of my 808. 😃

As for parameter locking...don't need it really. I don't perform live anyway.

James Reeno parameter locks aren't necessarily *FOR* live performances. thats a HUGE part of programming the damn thing

+Lars Rosenblad Thats impossible to say as the compressor settings are per pattern so each pattern can have totally different settings.

yeap!

No, it's not possible. The rytm does not feature a MIDI sequencer. The pads can send MIDI data though if you want to assign them, and it has MIDI clock (I know this isn't what you want, but just clarifying!)

why do you want more than 16bit? in the end (CD), it's gonna to be 16 bit nevertheless.

diego scar That's true I guess, but what if it goes straight to vinyl? haha

Bone Alias it has been well proven that 16 bit audio has a LOT more dynamic range than vinyl.

ollilaboratories Hey, Olli :)

It is crazy!

I'm a traveller from the future, there is a mark II version with your wish fulfilled....

Check ıt out, its out now!

But its analog!!!!!

+Absolute Magnitude yes he does Just not in the videos you watch 🤹‍♂️

They have that one on the site...

RhythmDroid Where? Link? I didnt see that one. Ill check again.

RhythmDroid crap I found it. Thanks. ;-)

RhythmDroid aha see it wasnt there before! I wasnt crazy! facebook.com/WeAreElektron/posts/10152467486717387

Davide Costa I love that. The best determination of sound design is your imagination, if not for beat patterns and melody composition

Are you sure? he works for Elektron, so would imagine he's not saying bad stuff about them..

im absolutely sure!!!he says dont whant to play anymore with elektrons cause they gave to him a bad warranty support, and he said, when somebody question him about what did he play at that moment, he answer that he plays with a stag...but atention, he dont make a video about this question, this is just a coment in one of his videos, and he said this, years ago, before start to represent elektron...

Give us a link to the comment/video in question.

I think you are confused.

Bromeliads no

I have an E2S and it's a different machine altogether. This is a drum synthesizer, the electribe is a sampler and only a sampler. The Korg has a single effect per part and a master effect over all parts (that's 2), and while the korg has functionality similar to parameter locking, the rytm's parameter locking is leagues more flexible. If you just want a drum machine that will play your sample collection then yeah, just get the korg. But if you want to shape your own sounds the RYTM just annihilates the korg.

I shape the sound of my samples with the ES2, I'm not stuck just playing them back. Also, when I said that the es2 has multiple effects, I was referring to how many are available-the RYTM has two, electribe has dozens -not the application of them, which is equal to the RYTM anyway. I don't think you've spent much time digging into the electribe mate. The ability to shape new and unique sounds is built into it, and resampling makes for further depth, then again... to infinity. ;) also, there is onboard synthesis for working from scratch. I could go on.

I agree that you can shape sounds with the E2S, I actually squeeze a lot of utility out of it and as a groovebox it can be a blast, but the RYTM far and away has the upper hand in terms of the ability to shape sound. As for effects, I wouldn't really say it has dozens, it just has its FX chopped up into little bite-sized pieces, ie 12 different delay effects that are just different speeds of each other. I would argue that the RYTM is more powerful in the effects department as well. I'm not trying to say the E2S is shit and the RYTM is some god-tier instrument. I love my E2S, and I use it alongside my elektron gear all the time. All I'm saying is that the RYTM, like all of Elektron's instruments, has a lot more depth and power than you can see in this demo and you shouldn't write it off so quickly. I gurantee if you spent some time with one you would pick it over your E2S in a heartbeat. As for justifying the price difference, that's another conversation entirely.

Flol

chris zod you're joking right? this has 8 analog voices, analog filters, etc.. the electribe is digital

As I understand it, it's one. It's analog, not digital to have more. All analog equipment (old roland 808,909) use the one oscilator for each voice. In elektron, to make it different you have sample support for each voice, and all this crazy shit with effects, paramter locks, etc... It's enough ;)

I guess I missed that. apparently the overdrive is before the filter. The possibility of having it the other way around would've been nice too, though