Rescuing stupid people makes the world go round.

How your going to know your limits if you don't push them alittle

Damn chicken. Errrr trail hawks....

Aka job security

In the Fire Department, we called them "Job Security", lol.

Me watch many time. Hope Shawn do sign language. Hope my comment not offend, though. Many people too serious!

No kidding, eh? Foot must be made out of lead.

SLOW is not a word he understands...

Trail Roach

Trail tampon

Yeah, The Trail Hawk should come w a warning..Rock Crawling Not Suggested, Those along w the new Wrangler 4xE hybrids are gutless....the 4xE is like a rattle trap brand new off the car haulers, i work at a major car rental facility, you can hear them coming from a very long distance and they sound like a dumpster filled with loose metal and debris literally thrashing around in a circle. Couldnt pay me to own one of those things.

I agree! Big shout out to the Editor(s).

Or they expected it too! lol 😂

Sounded hoarse, maybe a sore throat or a serious case of seasonal allergies. Cinco De Mayo weekend Moab may have snow, Rory better let Cris take care of him like rub his chest with vapor rub and some hot herbal tea with honey in it. My mother used to say to me when I was young "if you're too sick to go to work or school, then you're too sick to go out and play".

Dont be impressed by the digs , just showing off !lol thats one of the things that caught my eye when i started watching at 27k subs .

@@davestevens4263 Kinda me too. It was on same Elephant Hill trail. Rory and Shawn went to get a white jeep Cherokee, all that was holding the front end was a steering linkage. So they removed it and winched the front axle up on the mater trailer then had to back up to the Jeep and pull it up and set the front end on the axle. I didn't know why the front wheels were turning but the rears were not in that switchback turn. Thinking My 4 x 4 can't do that. So, if I want to learn more about that rig I had better subscribe and hit the black bell. I have learned a lot of terminology and the How Too's. Long 4 years watching every video and watching his channel grow. It's not just a recovery with Rory and crew it's a Science.

Mike summons the Rock Pecker to come give him a lift. Pun intended.!

Can you imagine those three in the Real American Hero commercial😂😂

Good

Trails with light sand and mud, No Rocks... Anything else requires a lift kit and better tires. The Grand Cherokee was lucky to get in & out of there with the bumpers in tact

Where's the suspension say that? Guess the other trailhawk that was with him on the original run, plus every single return trip couldn't handle it either? Where's all the hate when a stock wrangler breaks down doing some lite offroading? Same clearances, just different driving styles and creature comforts. And are you suggesting that 90% of the trail to that point was paved road? He nearly completed the trail if it weren't for the mistake that caused the breakage.

@@hikingphotog Thank you, I was wondering if you idiots knew the difference, Well... Yeah, now I know.

Yeah, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt at first when he said he accelerated too much, until he pointed out “I hit there, and there… and yeah, there, too” Uhhh… how fast were you going when you touched down on that first rock?? Yeesh!!! lol

He didn't get those 3 trail badges from jellying it down the trail. He got them from jamming it down the trails.😂😂😂

​@@kjsgardeni have the incident on video...he panic throttled when he saw traffic behind him, and yes, he did have a heavy foot on the trails...it was hard to reign him in!

was hoping someone had already said this

I was starting to wonder if the throttle on that was very sensitive, because some of those electronic throttles can be. Otherwise he's a really jumpy driver.

Yeah something was off, wonder if the throttle or brake was acting strange

I was the white WK2 that was wheeling with him. Your not wrong, was constantly reminding him to take it slow. He's still learning, and this was just one of those lessons he learned the hard way. We all were newbs at some point.

​@@mediocreman2He is a really jumpy driver...atleast he was. I'm sure this incident has tempered his throttle input.

😂🤣😂

Shhhh!😁

I have always wondered what the septic vehicle is that they take up there to clean the pit toilets? I have eaten lunch with BLM officers on that trail. They were driving a stock full-size Chevy with a four-wheeler in the back. It requires driving skills first and for most.

Elephant Hill is fine for stock vehicles...let me guess you think all trails require 40s, tons and double locked? He was doing fine until he took a bad line with too much panic throttle. I don't know a single wrangler owner that upgraded their rigs that aren't constantly fixing broken parts.

​@@FearlessTrailhawk ​People who don't get out and do these trails just don't know what it takes. The Trailhawk looked like it had very low clearance compared to many vehicles in these videos, but it has the same clearance as my son's Xterra, which did just fine on this trail. I was in a Sequoia which also did great, although with 5 more inches of clearance. Elephant Hill is a fun trail, and if it's done right, many stock vehicles can do it.

@@redrockitinerant7776 The WL's air ride was wigging out after the trail fix and was locked into 'normal ride height' until he got up on top and then it finally let him lift it up the remaining 2" for the offroad mode, so he was dragging a bit more than normal for that climb in this video.

You mean that Fiat SUV with broken A-arms and 4 inch ground clearance? ;)

OH SO RIGHT

Doesn't take much nowadays.

That's a perfect quote. If you don't mind, I'm going to use that.😊

The old jeep was crap also you have always had to build it to be worth a crap

Its got the same stock clearance as a wrangler, so why take a wrangler for clearance? Maybe he enjoys the creature comforts? The 4xe was a new driver and made some mistakes, something quite a lot of wrangler drivers do, but they don't get heat for it for some reason.

@@hikingphotog I keep hearing you babble about clearance, what are you talking about, break over and departure angles? and what the hell are creature comforts?

For that kind of money in that hawk you could have a really built up rig !!

Elephant Hill isn't even that hard. Those Trailhawks are more than capable enough to run them. That guy just needed to take it easy on the throttle. There was another white grand cherokee with him. That guy has a yt channel himself and he did it just fine. He's probably posted the video from his side already.

It was my understanding a new Wrangler isn't any cheaper... and if you are buying it to use it, why not use it.

Are you sure the THs tires weren't deflated? Because i was kinda there...they were at or just below 20psi. I partially agree though, i am not a fan of those stock tires on 18" rims, can't air down much more than 20 with having issues burping out air when it folds over rocks. (Especially with the extra weight 9f the 4xe) But it would help you to understand the traction system on the new jeeps...it locks the rear when in certain traction modes. This new driver just needed to be more patient, otherwise he'd been up and out just fine with no issues.

@@FearlessTrailhawk I apologize if that was you, or you were there. My intention was to speak to the audience re tires, lift, lockers & ability to get out. From the view in the video I couldn't tell but just guessed, and I should have clarified my words. Some 12-13 years ago we began to annually go into Devil's Kitchen or Bobby Joe (or one near by) (with the exception of 2 years Covid). Last year though seared into me, what happens when people have the wrong vehicles & are not prepared. 3 from Virginia went through Beef Basin, dropped in, got to SOB Hill (& they told me later) they spent 7 hours getting 3 vehicles through that spot, and ended up camping in the dark on the road. The next day they struggled to the bottom of E Hill and spent 2 hours getting 3 vehicles up, but the first two couldn't make the near last 'big climb" and so we pulled them up. The third had a longer body and gunned it and made it. All three scraped badly on the ciimb out, we waited nearly two hours and two Navtec drivers waited at the bottom (trying to get up) while this took place. So I apologize, this was still in my memory, I'm happy the jeep was able to get fixed and get out.

@@stephenlewis8143 That sound like a very different trail and situation. I've wheel either the KL and WK2 platform for over 5 years. Elephant Hill is not out of their capabilities. I was the white stock+tires WK2 that was shown briefly. The WL was with me. He is a newish driver and i was doing my best to reign his heavy throttle foot in. If he'd waited 30 seconds for me to get out of his way and spot him up the ledge, he'd not have smashed his control arm and would have driven out all on his own. His air suspension was also quirky after the trail fix and was stuck in normal ride height, but it righted itself once he got back up to the top of the hill and allowed him to raise it up the 2" for offroad. Imho, that climb out is actually one of the easier sections of the trail, it just has the mental aspect of the drop offs. And i'm not seeing anyone saying that stockish JK was out of place...when it has roughly the same clearance as the WL.

@@FearlessTrailhawk I hope you looked at my previous note, I meant to apologize. The route from the bottom W side of EH changes over time, & the last steep pitch changes also. For newbies, they either don't remember or don't know re the platform that greets the driver once they top out. They can then backup and then go up the last pitch & then in minute or two top out. I'm no expert, but I've been in there enough, and I've seen vehicles (that in my view) should not be in there; they scrape at most any instance & they have to stop and put rocks down for the slightest lip climb. SOB hill can be another big challenge for vehicles & we have aided some at that spot (mostly just talking them through options). Speaking of what vehicles can make it up, over, through the rough spots to Devils Kitchen & then back up the w side of EH. A lot of vehicles could arguably do it, & many would sustain degrees of damage & so it's best in my view to have a safe & sustainable drive & capable vehicle on the route. Years ago, the last climb, lots of loose rock and dirt; without lockers, for 2dr. Jeeps or lite trucks they would stall out on the climb. In the last 2 years (post Covid) the route has been pretty 'clean'. If you think stock vehicles on 30 or 32 inch tires can make the route to Devils Kitchen & then have no problem on the 'route back' and then up EH, then have that opinion if you wish. You obviously know what your are doing and most others also. In hindsight I could have just complimented Rory & left it at that. Happy Trails.

@@stephenlewis8143 I saw the apology, and i appreciate that, but as i'm not a local and was not familiar with all the nicknames for each section of that trail i had wrongly assumed you were talking about different trails and not EH. So that was my bad. My point was that despite your belief that neither of us should have been there because you seem to believe that this trail is above our capabilities simply because of a single driver error that resulted in a trail break (i know very few wranglers that wheel regularly that haven't had a trail break). I assure you that it is not. Both of our vehicles had adequate clearance and were prepared for the trail. (no, i don't make a habit of bringing a spare...everything...on every trail for 'just incase'...do you really carry an entire spare jeep in the back to replace any part that possibly may break?) We only stacked rocks on a single 'turtle' rock on the way to the squeeze, that was it. I was also trying to say that, in my multiple runs of EH, the exit climbs back out are more mentally challenging because of the ledges and otherwise a much 'easier' section of trail once one understands where the trail is and how to not drive off the edge. And its not simply "just my opinion" that stock vehicles have no problems doing the entirety of EH trail and loop, that is my experience, on multiple occasions. Yes, its not as easy as a jeep on 40s/ect....but heavy mods are not needed for most trails...just a good driver mod and line choice. But i lead stock rides frequently so its much easier for me to understand stock capabilities than some of you guys who have modded your rigs and can't fathom stock rigs doing the same trails as upi. Yes, its slower for us, but we still get through the trail with no damage, unless in this clear case of operator error. I'm sorry if my stock-ish jeep doing the same 'hard' trails as you has offended you. And i apologize if my defense of stock rigs has triggered a trauma response from a bad experience. I will leave you alone now. Have a good day mate.

I ran a motorsports fabrication and auto repair shop for 42 years with the family. I’ve done the same thing.

When the clutch gave it up on me, I had over a twenty mile drive the rest of way home though many intersections. That's where you find out if you can drive a manual transmission vehicle. But it depends on how the clutch failed.

The grand models changed in 22...lol. It wasn't the steepness that did him in, it was his impatience and lack of throttle control lined up into a bad rock. Otherwise he would have driven up and out just fine...like he did after it was repaired. Elephant Hill is stockable, just not as easy, you have to pay attention and pick your lines in a few places. Just because you think 40s and double locked is required... doesn't mean it is. Heck, I've even done it in a 2019 Cherkoee...no damage or breaks....and now a couple times in my WK2. 🤷

@@FearlessTrailhawk I've done it in my JLU Sport with 33" tires and 2" lift, basically Rubicon height. There are one or two steep spots climbing out that will challenge a stock vehicle, and we hit one or two spots further down the trail going in that would challenge ground clearance of a Grand Cherokee. My daughter has a Grand Cherokee and we've taken it on some challenging trails but not Elephant Hill. My Wrangler has better articulation than a Grand Cherokee but I still had one wheel off the ground in one location.. We picked a slightly better line and made it with no drama.