DaVinci Resolve on the M1 Mac Mini. Is 8GB Enough?

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In this video I'll be taking you along as I edit two complete projects in DaVinci Resolve on the base model 2020 M1 Mac Mini. We'll discover the systems strengths and weaknesses. I'll also compare the editing performance of the $700 Mac to the editing performance of a $700 PC. Which one will come out on top?
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Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
1:28 - I'm an Amateur
1:57 - My Resolve Editing Workflow/Style
3:40 - The "Editing Experience"
4:32 - Project 1 overview
5:30 - Output Problems - h265 bad encoding
6:28 - Prores 422 Failed to Render
7:02 - h264 Failed to Render
7:20 - Memory Swap Problem
8:15 - Render Lag Problem
9:39 - Successful Output
10:04 - Project 2 Overview
10:37 - AVCHD and Optimization
11:51 - Fusion Composition
12:29 - General Timeline performance
12:43 - Color Grading
13:06 - HD vs UHD Timeline Performance
13:53 - KZfaq 2160P H264 Output on HD vs 4K Timeline
15:00 - $700 PC Overview
16:16 - Project 2 on the PC
18:02 - Resolve and Hardware Acceleration
18:46 - Prores (Mac) vs DNxHR (PC)
19:36 - Overall Experience Editing on the Mac
19:58 - Recommendation, Mac or PC
22:09 - Closing
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@ElevatedSystems 3 жыл бұрын

I guess it's important to mention the RGB fans still in the PC are not included in the $700 pricepoint of the PC. They were still there just because they were the focus of the video I was editing in this video. I didn't swap them back out with the included case fans because I was short on time, and just in case I needed to reshoot any b-roll. So you can build the PC for $700 it just won't have the flashy fans.

@cyborgmetropolis7652 3 жыл бұрын

The RGB fans make the computer so much faster. Right?

@helljester8097 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for giving the Mac a second chance I find the comparison more interesting than I thought it would back when it was a question on your community tab.

@garryconnors8804 3 жыл бұрын

It looks as most reviewers are all finding now despite initial impressions that 8 gigs isn't enough for serious content creating. Great job as always Bro!

@philippeorlando7482 3 жыл бұрын

It seems that way.

@nyambe 3 жыл бұрын

Great detail video. The wattage is something important that many overlook. Design and portability is a big factor of the Mac mini also. I bought the base misel

@kisshukfc 3 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for this 😍🙏

@josippenezic7106 3 жыл бұрын

Im here to see apple fail

@g_rant_ 3 жыл бұрын

kudos on explaining your editing workflow/style. not many people are that aware of their own usage and requirements.

@stefanolanterna8752 3 жыл бұрын

Sadly with 700 bucks today I can get just the GTX1660, without the whole PC around.

@dab42bridges80 3 жыл бұрын

I'd be interested to see a future test using the M1X SOC with 16+ Gig of RAM.

@CalmingAnxiety 3 жыл бұрын

Well, I was set on the Mac Mini M1 (life long PC user and builder) as I only need something for video editing. I run Ableton for audio on my laptop. After watching this I feel I best stick to PC architecture so that I can upgrade as my skills progress. Great video, thanks.

@albertkinng 2 жыл бұрын

Mac Mini M1 is a strong machine, but it's not designed for Professional Video Editing. You need a Mac with a M1 pro or M1 Max for that. I think this guy is just showing how far it can work with a system that is not designed for it. If he really thought a Mac Mini will be capable, then he made a big mistake.

@XOJELITV Жыл бұрын

Good evening.Could you help me to choose model of computer ? I want to buy apple computer in order to work with Davinchi programme. Which model of computer would you recommend me? I can afford if it is approximately 2700$. Thanks in advance for your response

@sentranne 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this awesome video

@deepkumawat51 Жыл бұрын

5:24 I have a suggestion as a fellow resolve user, if u want to split a clip into 2 then u can map a shortcut key for, "split clip" by going to Davinci Resolve > Keyboard Customizations then in the search box, type: "Split Clip". Map this to any key(I have it on 'W'). Now move your playhead to the position where you want the cut and just press that key u just mapped. [ I DONT MEAN TO OFFEND YOU IN ANY WAY, I JUST THINK THIS METHOD IS FAR BETTER THAN USING THE BLADE TOOL. I HAVE WRITTEN THIS IN SUCH DETAIL SO THAT ANYONE READING THIS COMMENT CAN BENIFIT FROM THIS ]

@justinp1278 3 жыл бұрын

That resolve version for the M1 Mac requires 16gb of ram. It works way better. Don’t have those memory issues.

@famyip 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. I am in the market to upgrade my late 2012 imac, and am a casual education purpose user. Your wife is using the mac mini base model now, I saw in another video. Are the 8gb ram enough for her needs?

@creativework2506 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video

@reynaldocuevas6543 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry if you had mentioned the version on the previous video, but what version did you use? Resolve 16 or the 17 Beta? I only ask as some people have mentioned that the Beta has worked better on the M1 Mac mini. I personally am not familiar with Resolve at all, so I am just asking for the sake of asking, not questioning your test. Great comparison!

@ElevatedSystems 3 жыл бұрын

I used the latest update of version 17.1 which is the M1 optimized version.

@rohithmekala2608 3 жыл бұрын

Hey man nice video. Were you using the native version of DaVinci Resolve for Mac and if so its in beta right now, so that might effect preformance.

@ElevatedSystems 3 жыл бұрын

It was 17.1 public beta studio version. I went through the entire download and install on the Mac in the previous video.

@user-cx6rg6mr7d 2 жыл бұрын

great video!! Is your Davinci Resolve a free version or pro version? thanks

@FoodTechLife 3 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed the video, thanks.

@modestyblaise4167 2 жыл бұрын

Just wondering if Resolve was a native Apple Silicon version? If not, you might want to retest. It’s also worth noting the the App Store version of Resolve on Mac gets h.264/h.265 hardware acceleration with the free version which isn’t the case on PC. Finally, the lack of ProRes on PC means it’s a non-starter for me. Oh, and I’ve had many out of memory issues running Resolve on PC too over the years.

@matteventu Жыл бұрын

Hello, video editing noob here. What's ProRes, and why is it important?

@denvera1g1 3 жыл бұрын

I've found that the cheap fanless M.2 enclosures are fine if you put them by the exhaust fan for the device, even if that air coming out is 70c, thats still 20c below what is considered too hot, additionally, running an SSD cold can actually reduce its lifespan, so keeping it at 70c, instead of starting out at 20c and ramping up to 95c should be better for it

@ElevatedSystems 3 жыл бұрын

The horrible Mokin enclosure was getting so hot the SSD was shutting down. It was actually the NVMe to USB circuit on the enclosure itself that was getting hot and heating up the entire enclosure.

@denvera1g1 3 жыл бұрын

@@ElevatedSystems Oh shoot, i can see that being a problem i've been using these super thin SSK adapters, have 4 of them without issue, but to be safe i always place them next to the exhaust. Sort of an issue on the Mac Mini because it apparently doesnt spin its fan most of the time

@dencio1976 9 ай бұрын

I was on this fence about either getting a mac m1 mini vs a pc and just went with pc considering that I dont only do video edit. Games, 3d modelling/rendering plus the fact that pc is easy to upgrade made it a no brainer for me. I would consider it for a laptop m1 though as battery life and mobility is clear win for M1 as a backup or alternative.

@Fotoadsza 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video and sharing your experience. These days a decent GPU alone for PC costs close to (or more) than the Mac M1 Mini. Because of these crazy prices, I can't afford to upgrade my PC. I have to do something soon so I'm seriously considering moving to the Mac mini. It's only for basic YT videos, so I hope to get away with 8gb. If necessary I can always upgrade to 16gb. Still less than I'd probably spend on a PC upgrade.

@ElevatedSystems 2 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind you can't upgrade the memory in the M1 Mac Mini. If you get the 8GB model that's all the memory it can ever have.

@Fotoadsza 2 жыл бұрын

@@ElevatedSystems Thank you. I didn't realise that 🤔

@ROMMELHSQ 3 жыл бұрын

Was the price of Windows included?? Still great video highlighting the Mini limitations (at least the 8Gb version). Thanks for your hard work!

@ElevatedSystems 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, as the price I paid for the official install of windows I used for all the testing was $0.

@ROMMELHSQ 3 жыл бұрын

@@ElevatedSystems Is the $0 version the one you use also on your Workstation??

@ElevatedSystems 3 жыл бұрын

@@ROMMELHSQ No that one I paid for. $11 I think it was.

@1plaintext Жыл бұрын

you have 8gb of ram and DVR is using 13, and when you find out there 5gb of swap, you found that weird?

@nevenkofilipek 3 жыл бұрын

As you know 8gb is shared memory between cpu and gpu so it is not enough for 4k smoth editing and you may see glitches and hiccups. I think 16gb is much better for 4k editing. Also davinci is still in beta so things cann be diferent when its in stable release.

@youtuba6508 2 жыл бұрын

Holy fucking shit. The effort in making this informative video. Thanks Gerard Butler.

@rep3e4 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@gabequezada2066 Жыл бұрын

Finally... An honest youtuber

@SkShadow 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe try this as a M1 Final cut pro vs $700 PC on davinci resolve? As from my experience FCP works a lot better and is a lot more optimised than a Beta version of Davinci Resolve, so you may be able to draw different conclusions trying Final Cut Pro? After all, FCP is probably going to be the editing software of choice for people on Macs.

@ElevatedSystems 3 жыл бұрын

I think a large number of Mac users actually use Premiere Pro for professional editing, but I just didn't want to pay $300 for software I don't even know how to use.

@SkShadow 3 жыл бұрын

@@ElevatedSystems Yeah thats fair enough

@ajschot 3 жыл бұрын

which version of Davinci did you use on the M1? Did you use the Beta version for M1? Because the normal verison is going true rosetta and does not use m1's hardware decoders. Also same holds for premiere and after effects. You need to use 17.1 beta you have to scroll on teh support page, the one that you download is 17 beta 6 and not 17.1 beta 6)

@ElevatedSystems 3 жыл бұрын

It was 17.1 public beta studio version. I went through the entire download and install on the Mac in the previous video.

@ajschot 3 жыл бұрын

@@ElevatedSystems ok thank you sorry i missed that one.... thank you!

@Slingshot4FunTW 2 жыл бұрын

how m1 connect the extender monitor ?

@ElevatedSystems 2 жыл бұрын

The Mac Mini has an HDMI output.

@Slingshot4FunTW 2 жыл бұрын

@@ElevatedSystems thanks.

@ricardoucr 2 ай бұрын

the problem is that as always in apple, for the 16gb version you have to pay almost twice.

@Striker.Cosplay 3 жыл бұрын

Welp guess gotta wait till they release higher ram configs. Really stupid how you can get 64gb of ram on a Intel platform but Apple can’t figure that out.

@1badawg66 3 жыл бұрын

I think another consideration is a pc running windows is more difficult to use overall for a lot of people. I find my new M1 Mac mini much more user friendly. Not just for video editing but in every day use.

@MohamedAttia_Official 2 жыл бұрын

I hope you can tell me it's better to just use montages ________ (Mac mini m1) & Ryzen 5 3600× ● Kingston A2000 240GB SSD ● Sea Sonic 700W Power Supply 80 plus ● asus geforce rtx 1660 ROG strix OC edition 8GB godr6 ● msi b 550 gaming pro carbon max wifi ● Kingston HyperX FURY RGB DDR4 8GB ×2 ● FSP Vento Mesh RGB Gaming Case + 4 Fans

@RocktCityTim 3 жыл бұрын

One more test that you should run - Install CentOS onto that $700 PC and watch Resolve performance improve by 20% to 30%. Still not that M1, but better than Windows.

@DonSolaris 3 жыл бұрын

Do I have to install Nvidia drivers in order for Resolve to use the GPU?

@JoPhiGURU 3 жыл бұрын

I never upgraded a PC in the past. I won't upgrade any PC in the future. I use a M1 MacBook Pro, 16GB since it's available. With this I never had any problems, compared to PCs. I completely droped PCs out of my life.

@JoPhiGURU 3 жыл бұрын

@Yusuf Cahyadi, in general because of new fancy possibilities, the old board was not able to support. In 5 years, lots is happening. Gosh, I've forgotten the macMini: I upgraded a Mac once, it was in 2012, when I updated 4 gigs to 8 gigs of RAM, the first Mac I've ever had.

@ElevatedSystems 3 жыл бұрын

Then the M1 Mac is the perfect system for you because you can't upgrade anything in it.

@JoPhiGURU 3 жыл бұрын

@@ElevatedSystems , seems to be. Furthermore: Especially with TB3 external boxes (for e.g. by Sonnet), I can use all the external cards, I also used before. It seems to be a perfect deal, especially because of the performance upgrades. Currently all the major developers upgrade their drivers for external cards, the most beta-drivers do a well job. It just can get better. :)

@labradorsin 3 жыл бұрын

Pc’s are so terrible, about 10.5 years ago I bought an hp and in the first time to i power on that thing just sent me a system 32 error WTF!!! Thankfully some guy rob my house and took the shit out of my life hahaha, the next month I bought a MacBook Pro 13” that still rocking. Know I’m waiting for my Mac mini m1 16gb ram and 512gb 💪🏼

@JoPhiGURU 3 жыл бұрын

@@labradorsin , WTF! A robbery? Well, good to hear that you can find something good in it! 💪💪

@victorbaez8673 3 жыл бұрын

Now i absolutely love what apple has done with the M1. But to be fair, if you substitute that 1660 (Which is really not needed for this build as the m1's graphics is comparable to that of a 1050ti) which has a $219 base msrp, for something much cheaper like a 1650 or 1650 super with a normal base msrp of around $149-$169 (out of stock and inflated prices right now but much better earlier this year) and switch that cpu for the 10100f variant. (suggested msrp of $85-$100) that would cut the price in down quite considerably. Also it is possible to find suprisingly good b460 or h410 motherboards anywhere from $59-$69 (or even $89 for a wifi included variant, like the gigabyte b460m ds3h ac). It should also be noted that you can buy a windows 10 pro oem key off of a reputable grey market dealer like kinguin for $35 or less. I got my pro key for $20. (Microsoft does honor keys aquired off of a grey market.) So there really is many other ways he could have brought the cost of his system down to $700 or below. One issue i have though is the fact that he uses a 4c/8t. Not really an issue but an 8c8t or 8c16t cpu would be MUCH more expensive. So while the m1 is an 8c8t it will obviously, completely demolish this little 10100. Plus there are most likely much better fans. Like the arctic p12 that are $20-30 for a 5 pack that offers both sound quality and performance incredible close to that of noctua. And as far as cases go it is possible to find a good quality mesh case for optimal airflow off of amazon for $49-$69. There can honestly be a lot of ways to lessen the overall cost of the system with having the same performance as what he has built here.

@victorbaez8673 3 жыл бұрын

Nevertheless. This is still a great build and video

@ElevatedSystems 3 жыл бұрын

The point of the PC is that the components I picked are actually available today for close to or at MSRP. I discussed that in the PC build video. The fans are just there because of that last video, I didn't have time to switch them back out with the stock fans. The reason for the GTX 1660 is it is the 2nd lowest end GTX with the new Turing Nvenc encoder which is a huge upgrade over the previous Volta Nvenc for hardware encoding/ decoding. I went with the 4 core I3 to keep cost comparable to the Mac knowing the 1660 would make up the difference in Resolve. A more powerful CPU but less powerful GPU would not be the right choice for Resolve because of its outstanding hardware acceleration. That would be a Premiere Pro focused build. Or it used to be before Premiere became Cuda aware.

@victorbaez8673 3 жыл бұрын

@@ElevatedSystems oh yes the i3 and 1660 combo is definetly good combo for resolve. Everything youve picked and assembled are very good components for their price. Ive just read comments about how this pc is priced at $850 because of the windows 10 key. Thats ridiculous. My rebuttal to that is to be sensible and buy a cheaper key from a grey market dealer and to those saying that its still to much, there are other options that can be cheaper and still yeild results simmilar to if not the same or slightly bettter than the M1 for what you are testing.

@A10Jedi 3 жыл бұрын

Where is the video of your pc editing raw 4K exporting h265. If it actually can do h265 then you have one of the few PCs in the world that can do it at that price point.

@ElevatedSystems 3 жыл бұрын

What are you talking about? Are you referring to CPU decoding because the Turing NVENC/NCDEC handles H.265 just fine in Resolve and is available for under $200 in the GTX 1650 Super, and every Nvidia card above the 1650 super. The quality of H265 output on the Mac in Resolve and Handbrake was horrible.

@EspenJohan 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this, I wanted to see this. Looks like im gonna stick with my pc for now. For editing on Davinci with some effects it seems like the pc handle it better.

@rohithmekala2608 3 жыл бұрын

yeah it needed 16gb of RAM for Mac. Also right now Davinci is in beta for M1. So best to stick with PC for now

@A10Jedi 3 жыл бұрын

I have zero issues editing in davinci or fcp using the Mac mini M1. I’m calling bs. In fact I’ll make a video.

@EspenJohan 3 жыл бұрын

@@A10Jedi thats great if you make a video and use fusion too with some heavy effects👍.

@MrClowny666 2 жыл бұрын

@@A10Jedi 6 months later and no video to support your hypothesis?

@dencio1976 9 ай бұрын

@@A10Jedistill no video?

@Zerbijan 2 жыл бұрын

Ok… @Elevated Systems Iiii need help in this era of unpayable GPUs - mac mini 16gb, 256gb for 960 euros/dollars or better wait for the new model 2022 Or - lenovo legion t5, 16gb, 1tb ssd, ryzen 7 5800, rtx3060ti for 1499 euros/dollars Or wait for a gpu price drop (that will eventually never happen😞 and build one by myself) Need a new pc and have no clue what to do (never had an mac)

@ElevatedSystems 2 жыл бұрын

What exactly is you workload?

@Zerbijan 2 жыл бұрын

@@ElevatedSystems video editing davinci resolve. the question is: how future proof is the current m1 macmini. would it be better to wait for the next generation?

@ElevatedSystems 2 жыл бұрын

@@Zerbijan Nothing is future proof, the M1 Max and M1 Pro's already significantly outperform the original M1. However, like I mentioned if you are just doing simple edits without much GPU accelerated effects the current M1 Mac Mini is still the best bang for the buck.

@Zerbijan 2 жыл бұрын

@@ElevatedSystems thanx🤙

@GUAPSTARYT 3 жыл бұрын

If u make simple KZfaq videos trust me 8gb is enough 😂 the only people that need more if you are doing more production or like music videos with a lot of effects . But simple KZfaq content creation can be done unless u make hella long uploads

@GUAPSTARYT 3 жыл бұрын

But anybody with common sense should know that Mac is definitely overpriced tech there is much better value in having a windows pc , can easily get a 32gb system which would be more than enough

@ElevatedSystems 3 жыл бұрын

I'm coming to learn that Apple is not really about price to performance. It's has a lot to do with status symbol. A $1k pair of retro Jordan's doesn't make you run faster or jump higher but people buy em. I was wearing a $22k Patek Philippe watch in my last video. It doesn't tell time better then a $100 Timex (ok actually it does) but the point is a product is worth what people are willing to pay for it. I'll probably stick to splurging on my watch collection and building good value PC's.

@JaymesMedia 3 жыл бұрын

Waqas Qazi is a professional colorist and he does all his projects in a 1080P timeline. I do the same and and export in 4K

@tonyburzio4107 3 жыл бұрын

I can't use a Mac, it doesn't run the large stable of viruses I need for my business.

@yannisgk 3 жыл бұрын

many lols!!!

@garryconnors8804 3 жыл бұрын

That's smart, giving Apple unfettered access to your private buisness data and IP would be stupid.

@ActualKaktus 3 жыл бұрын

If you think your Mac is immune to viruses, think again.

@MAGAMAN 3 жыл бұрын

That's where you're wrong kiddo. People just think macs are safe from malware, ransomeware and other things, which is why people keep getting infected with malware, ransomeware and other malicious programs. The only difference is that mac users are usually unaware until something really bad happens. Windows users use anti-virus programs, so usually find out right away.

@stevedeitry4644 3 жыл бұрын

Apple Shill!

@bartomiejkomarnicki7506 3 жыл бұрын

what is one supposed to say to not be one? to say they are equal? Apple is years ahead of competition and that’s a fact

@MAGAMAN 3 жыл бұрын

@@bartomiejkomarnicki7506 Apple is a money making scam for stupid people who can't build their own computers. If my computer needs an upgrade, I replace my CPU. If yours needs an upgrade, you throw yours in the trash and buy a new one.

@MAGAMAN 3 жыл бұрын

64GB is not enough. Macs are for idiots who don't value their money.

@stevenwest1494 3 жыл бұрын

😂 Another mac system over engineered with bragging rights on R&D and it STILL thermal throttles. Apple just don't build systems with serious users in mind that use hardware, hard. I doubt even there Pro models would have sufficient M.2 cooling, and for such an expensive system, that's just a deal breaking oversight that makes me doubt there design ethos entirely.

@rohithmekala2608 3 жыл бұрын

go watch Linus's video about the M1 Macs. He said it does not thermal throttle. It also seems you are forgetting the Mac Pro.