Elite Strength Is All About Momentum

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3 ай бұрын

Momentum, although widely disparaged by people espousing optimal evidence based training, is fundamental to exerting strength (and building it) at the highest levels. This video discuss the idea of using momentum in various lifts and how you can use it to make your own bodybuilding and strength training journey way better.
alphadestiny, eric bucenhagan, natural hypertrophy, cheat rows, bodybuilng cheat reps, should training be strict.

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@klinerd9603 3 ай бұрын

Golden ratio grizzly in the thumbnail is so funny

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

Shit killed me when I saw it

@Blizzard1337 3 ай бұрын

very interesting. I always wondered why deadlifters and strongman in general move their bodyframe with massive momentum before a lift. I know it helps and i use it for deadlifts too but this explains it pretty good.

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

That’s really cool you noticed it, it took me a very long time to realize it was even a thing despite using it. Thanks for watching

@josemarialaguinge 3 ай бұрын

Finally, a new long form video.

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

Hopefully I’ll be able to put them out more consistently, thanks for watching bro

@limo-swine6537 3 ай бұрын

Alpha destiny also mentions that kipping helps even out the resistance curves of exercises so it is better resistance according to portion of the lift. Also btw, I finally did the demon slayer breathing bracing while deadlifting and squats. Damn, I felt more core stability AND I wasn't breathless during the set. Your tips are unconventional are very effective for me (that grip tip is amazing too). Thank you for your esoteric tips. Please keep them coming.

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

That’s sick to hear! I hope to remake that bracing video with some more detail in the near future, hopefully you can get even more out of it. I didn’t know Alex said that, but it’s really interesting to hear. He seemed to be a super strict reps kind of guy nowadays. I really appreciate your continued support!

@joaopedrorosacogo5799 3 ай бұрын

Your mad underrated, great video, very informative and easy to watch, please do more long form videos!!

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

Will do homie, thanks for the support!

@moneymathew 3 ай бұрын

Greatest content on the fitness net rn ngl. The thought, the idea, the science and practise behind it is incredible! Keep it up man

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

Really appreciate it bro, thanks for the support!

@seanoreilly9950 3 ай бұрын

underrated channel🗣️

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

Thanks bro

@PalladianPD 3 ай бұрын

I think on the bodybuilding side where hypertrophy is king and strength is secondary, the impact of whole body drive is not as vital because we're trying to train the target muscles, not make them stronger per se. You could argue that whole body drive should be used because it lets you load the muscles more especially on the eccentric, but the strict reps doctrine is quite ingrained.

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

Is definitely more popular to talk about ultra strict reps, but lots of elite lifters (especially less recent ones) utilized tons of kipping in their bodybuilding completely intuitively. That, plus my own recent progress from kipping makes me very in favor of using momentum for hypertrophy. Also, for natties you realistically have to get strong as to get big. If the best kipping does is habituate you to being able to train much harder and resist the damage from doing so, it’s still extremely valuable as a training tool

@iTzRioZ 3 ай бұрын

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@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

That’s sick to hear, thanks so much for watching!

@samk2407 3 ай бұрын

I don't agree 100% with all of your conclusions or definitions of different types of kipping, but I do agree with a lot of it and definitely like the video. It's a very interesting and under explored idea. I think one aspect that you didn't discuss explicitly but matters a lot is the aspect of using tendons and muscles as springs instead of purely as motors so to speak. Classically in training, muscles are just like electric motors, moving the joints with their own power. Conversely with a lot of these momentum techniques, although not all of them, you're passively storing extra tension in the muscle chain you're training with that kip motion and using the natural elasticity of those structures to complete the lift. I think that's most obvious in the strict bicep curl example although it exists in nearly all of them. That little leg drive the athlete is using is putting the bicep complex into a tiny eccentric load at the end of it's ROM and allowing it to spring back out of that low leverage dead spot with the assistance of that passive stretch added to the active contraction. This is similar to a negative/split step in sports in the Achilles tendon and calf. The biggest difference to me with this understanding of cheating vs kipping is that the momentum is channeled more through other structures as opposed to increasing the overall tension the muscle experiences.

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching, and I appreciate polite disagreement! That spring tensioning idea is actually the basis of why I think kipping follows those two broad patterns of expansion and flexion, and I’ll explore it in a separate video. Essentially I think you can primarily load the front or back of the sternum into those extra stretchy positions, and that each correlates to a preferred limb rotation. That said, that doesn’t encompass all of what kipping is. Most of the kipping shown in the video doesn’t actually utilize overstretching for an exaggerated rebound, it directly drives momentum through the limbs in the direction required to move a weight without having to induce a stretch. As to the difference between cheating and kipping, I think we’re in agreement. My description is a practical one. Uses of momentum that drive tension away from muscles seem to universally involve a change in momentum direction before a lift is complete, whereas those that enhance tension universally seem to use momentum in one direction continuously. I think those descriptions help people to more easily recognize when momentum is detracting from a lift, though they don’t describe why it does.

@samk2407 3 ай бұрын

@@darwinianfitness7311 I'm still not 100% sure I understand the two types you defined from your description. Is it sort of like on the extremes one is in the direction of touching your toes and one is in the direction of bending backwards into a bridge?

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

@samk2407 sorry, I will hopefully have a deeper full breakdown of those two kinds of mechanics within a week if all goes well

@harrisashraff 3 ай бұрын

Interesting Video Mate. But what you mention here is how we work our way through the sticking points of any lift but never realize there is this reason behind it. Also, I am a big fan of Cheating Rows and push press.

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! Yes that’s exactly part of the argument I’m making, I definitely think people use kipping all the time to bypass sticking points short term, as well as build the strength to push through them without momentum long term

@arelphelps7088 3 ай бұрын

wow. learned something pretty cool. thank you. liked and subscribed

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@francescostefanini2724 3 ай бұрын

I didn't know any of this stuff. Nice video

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@agnidas5816 3 ай бұрын

I noticed this same thing while rowing. To get the most power I gotta just throw my torso using my calves and quads and then use the core to transfer and direct the energy. So the movement feels different and you no longer are holding up your upper back and chest - they are flying back not down. Plus pull the handle hard as you can. If you row like a people do squat 1RM you will lose 30% efficiency vs doing it like an oly lift snatch

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

That’s really interesting, essentially by my definitions you improved a lift by “cheating” the row instead of “kipping” the row, which is much more effecient for the sport of rowing (but might be inefficient for bodybuilding rows). Thanks for sharing!

@silatguy 3 ай бұрын

Very interesting!

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@riku2700 3 ай бұрын

Awesome video, mate. Love the originality

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@enlightenedboi4443 3 ай бұрын

nice video

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching homie

@michaellopez2070 3 ай бұрын

Good vid. Original take.

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

Thanks homie

@stefanschacht3322 3 ай бұрын

yea nice to meet you! so far confirmed, i guess you kniów a thing or two! decent content and well put, get yourselfe a mic-holder, greetings from the north ^^

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching bro. I hope to upgrade my whole set up soon, but for now I think holding my mic like a peasant has a certain homeless charm to it

@stefanschacht3322 3 ай бұрын

@@darwinianfitness7311 haha fair enough (; also great Performance in static tension holding the mic steady

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

@stefanschacht3322 I’m kipping off screen to support it ;)

@potatodog7910 10 күн бұрын

Is that Mario sports mix background music?

@lolumad3462 3 ай бұрын

Smartest fucker alive keep it up my G

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

Thanks bro!

@SimonGarstin 3 ай бұрын

Is this the one of the reasons why Ronnie Coleman got so big and strong?

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

I’m suspicious that superior mechanics (like intuitively better kipping to enhance training) often makes a huge difference that’s conventionally thought of as “genetic” between elite competitors. I’m sure a large amount of Ronnie Coleman’s disproportionate success has to do with subtle but important training differences like this

@SimonGarstin 3 ай бұрын

@@darwinianfitness7311 Right. It could mean overall more muscle stimulation in the entire muscle chain, therefore more systemic stimulation as compared to deliberately trying to isolate a muscle and therefore not use all the other muscles in that chain. And then like you pointed out in the video, able to use more weight which then activates even more muscles in that chain. It probably stimulates overall nervous system better.

@SaturnReturns 2 ай бұрын

This went over my head. All I see is bad form. Downvoted & unsubscribed.

@darwinianfitness7311 2 ай бұрын

lol this got me for a second

@Shutupcracker 3 ай бұрын

this makes sense cus it makes it easier, but to get bigger momentum cheats your reps and takes tension off your target, if you wanna grow you gonna have control if you wanna move heavy shit use your full body of course

@darwinianfitness7311 3 ай бұрын

I’m not super sure it works out that way, since the biggest strongest people seem to throw in tons of momentum (through kipping) into most of their training reps. Lately I’ve been experimenting with kipping virtually everything and it looks very promising as a way of progressing strict strength