ELK SHOULDER BLADE VS BROADHEADS (Ballistics Gel Test)

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25 күн бұрын

Trent, Steve and Noah Put 7 different broadheads to the test against real elk shoulder blades to see what set up penetrates the most.
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@seanrogers3245 23 күн бұрын

It's always interesting to see the results of these types of tests. Thank you for using the actual 'elk' shoulders & taking the time to do this review. Nice job!

@carltrano1325 23 күн бұрын

Take away for me, to never use a mechanical Broadhead ever again was confirmed. Complete shocker for me was how poorly the single bevels performed. QAD still a top performer.

@rschwarck44 22 күн бұрын

The single bevels in a target/ cardboard expends energy faster as it is trying to continue to rotate, but given the medium it is going through is preventing that cause energy loss and therefore reduced penetration. These tests are nothing more than entertainment they do very, very little to provide any sort of definitive results that you could rely on for shooting actual animals.

@16tkoger 22 күн бұрын

Single bevels don’t even perform when they do hit what they are supposed to, they create no wound channel

@matthunter1667 22 күн бұрын

@@16tkoger I've shot dozens of whitetail with a #45 longbow shooting a very slow 160fps and I've blown through many mature buck shoulder bone with single bevel zwickey broadheads. No other head gives my longbow that type of penitration and blows straight through like a scary sharp single bevel. I've hunted for years strictly using tradition equipment and I'm speaking from 100% experience on live animals.

@N8Stein 17 күн бұрын

Yeah. The only thing I can add about this video is that a shoulder blade taken from an animal will never be the same as one in a live animal. There's no way to test better than this. It's just a fact.

@andrewsparks4726 17 күн бұрын

Also limited blood trail. Give me a solid one pc 3 blade like the vpa or a cut throat

@kevinmckenna8948 19 күн бұрын

Great video and confirms why one should stay the hell away from the shoulders. Not one of those heads would penetrate at elk hunting distance, as this test is 10 yards... No reason to shoot tight to shoulders, plenty of room rearward to double lung. On Elk or whitetail...

@slammysammy2217 18 күн бұрын

Remember elk lungs are big no reason to hug the shoulder (thank me later)

@anthonymyers2010 23 күн бұрын

Always good to see broadhead testing. Very hard to get close to the real thing but you all did a great job! I was very surprised with the results. This last elk season I shot my elk through the thinner part of the shoulder. Arrow got broke into three pieces as it ran off and then fell over in about 50 yards and never moved! Setup was AXIS 5mm 29 inch single right hand bevel Cuttthroat 125 grain broadhead. Mathews phase 4 75 pounds with 28.5 draw length. Arrow weight is around 470. Shot was at 19.3 yards and the broken piece went all the way through the elk.

@mervinhershberger7284 20 күн бұрын

Great job guys ! Great work on testing different broadheads out on a real elk shoulder !!

@SugarValleyOutdoors 13 күн бұрын

One of the best test I have seen. Nice job guys

@davidfrazier1972 21 күн бұрын

Shot a 90lb whitetail doe this year with 100gr exodus, deer was quartering to real hard, entered halfway up the neck and exited at the hind quarter. Complete pass through almost 4ft of deer, and she folded up where she stood. Of the 5 deer I’ve killed with the exodus over the last two years 4 have went down in sight. I’m completely sold, and for a fixed. Blade they tune and fly like an absolute dream. I’ll never shoot anything else

@dreadedking24 19 күн бұрын

Great video guys definitely confirmed things when it comes to mechanicals vs fixed

@danielherbst2946 23 күн бұрын

You guys turned me on to the QAD Exodus 5 years ago, I have killed my last 4 Bulls with this broadhead and got pass through on them all. I shoot 65lbs, 525 total arrow weight. Be interesting to see how the QAD works at 20yds and 30 yds and the difference distance has on the penetration. really appreciate all you guys do! good luck this season!

@deanbrantley 23 күн бұрын

Awsome test. Really a wake up call on how thick those scraps are for us eastern guys.

@DonStevens-xn4qv 19 күн бұрын

Great video guys!!!

@nathanrasbaugh1481 16 күн бұрын

I keep going back and forth between using the QAD Exodus and the Ramcat broad head for this fall. After watching this video I am now leaning towards QAD now.

@timberg7377 23 күн бұрын

Very interesting, fun stuff guys.

@chasedixon6803 23 күн бұрын

QAD is one nasty rig. Its also one of the best flying 3 blades I have ever shot.

@mikejohnson4233 23 күн бұрын

Good to see you guys, it's been while. Ty for great test of the broad heads. Mike from GP

@brianmincher716 18 күн бұрын

This was excellent.

@ZanderKalashnikov 23 күн бұрын

This has me so hyped up for hunting season I got a tag this year and already have my bow dialed in with Exodus in my quiver

@TheLifeOutdoorz 23 күн бұрын

That's super cool! I had a Grizzly Stik Samurai break the hip one last bull.

@barrettbrown4615 23 күн бұрын

Taking the Exodus broadheads to Africa for the second time. I haven't found one I like better and they were amazing the first time! Thanks for the review.

@justintorres08 23 күн бұрын

Cool video !

@devildog090106 23 күн бұрын

This is awesome yall! Next time could yall throw in an Anhilator? Standard or XL

@toyotarockcrawler 23 күн бұрын

Great video. I would like to see you test the G5 Deadmeat V2.

@russellwatters5891 23 күн бұрын

That's a pretty good "real world" comparison! Would like to know bow poundage as well, it may make a difference in selection. 😊

@user-rd5pu7gn9d 16 күн бұрын

You guys should do a trophy room tour

@kendalglidden7854 9 күн бұрын

Thanks for testing! Next year Magnus Black Hornet and Stinger!!

@jero1918 22 күн бұрын

Thanx

@ILhunter23 21 күн бұрын

Time and time again I keep seeing the qads outperform almost every head . And that’s why I hunt with them. Best bang for your buck hands down

@gradyfuller4880 23 күн бұрын

Interesting test. I think a quarter to shot would be a great test too.

@bryanborek3221 22 күн бұрын

would love to see more people test the Valkyrie heads. The Deathswitch for mechanical and Jager for fixed blade. The centerpin system alone is worth it for arrow flight.

@ericwiitala5407 23 күн бұрын

Great video guys. Not going to lie, you got me rethinking my Iron Wills. I'm really disappointed on how it performed. Confirmed my thoughts on expandables.

@toryulibarri6144 23 күн бұрын

Like the video, I am curious about the Evolution Outdoors hybrid broadhead “Hyde”. Have only shot fixed blades and have debated on mechanical heads.

@chrisfitch2905 4 күн бұрын

I have shot a lot of heads over the years, and even had a website dedicated to testing broadheads years ago. I now shoot two blade heads that I can sharpen myself. I have not seen much difference on animals when it comes to single vs double bevel when it comes to performance. If I were to shoot a replaceable blade head it would be the Exodus. I have gotten away from mechanicals all together. I tend to shoot very close to the shoulder and none of them work well going into heavy bone. Enjoyed the video

@jakepashuta2093 13 күн бұрын

I'm a whitetail hunter. I used the shwacher and it has bent just like it did in the video. Almost all mechanicals I've used are a one and done. I think I may check out the exodus this year!

@stevenvinson8188 23 күн бұрын

Great information but what is the distance to target, draw weight of the bow, arrow specs?

@PNW_Wolfpack_Adventures 23 күн бұрын

Why no Kudu? Oregon company guys.

@quintonmartin5507 16 күн бұрын

Love the testing. Please try out the Dead X Bowhunting 200gr Bloodflow.

@joepipher6884 22 күн бұрын

Great video. Would love to see you guys use an annihilatorbroadhead. next time

@joshvogel7140 23 күн бұрын

I’d like to see you guys test the Evolution outdoors Hyde

@westleytaylor5622 23 күн бұрын

Try a couple magnus fixed heads. Would like to see the results of those

@inthewoods3237 21 күн бұрын

My take away was the mechanicals did better than the single bevel! I don’t get to elk hunt anyhow but I blow through white tails with Rage 150 grain, going to try Swhacker 150’s this year.

@zzz7zzz9 2 күн бұрын

Now, can you do a test showing how the same heads perform passing through hide, heart, and lungs.

@jeffdysert5549 23 күн бұрын

Have been shooting the QAD exodus since I saw you guys do a head to head comparison with other broad heads about five years ago. Have killed one elk and many whitetails with the exodus and no lost game.

@bornandraisedoutdoors 23 күн бұрын

Glad you’re having good results with them!

@toddhisey4126 21 күн бұрын

I’d like to see the 3blade g5 striker vs the exodus at 11yds as I had a situation last year of a bull elk quartering to behind a tree at 11yds.

@carloscaceres9298 23 күн бұрын

Great test for the broad heads and I’m too old and fat to be chasing an elk. Even though I’m strictly a deer hunter, it’s nice to see which broad heads perform the best. I do understand that there are variables but that QAD Exodus is extremely impressive. Again Thank You for doing the test.

@calebsmith1454 Сағат бұрын

I do this a lot at home before season and I'm using a bear razorhead single blade because they have the most penatration for me. I even use leather on each side of the bones. It's crazy how far they blow through and into my target

@ncoutdooradventures6148 22 күн бұрын

Great video/test guys! I have never been a fan of mechanicals,, too many variables of what can fail/go wrong! As a sportsman, the "instant kill" is always the objective, and that means using the best "tool" for the job. That being said,, then there's the debate over 2, 3, or 4 blade - fixed, or replaceable, blades?? Also the question of what grain, and width? What lbs. test bow do you prefer,, and what size/kind of arrows?

@user-vw3ym5mk8q 21 күн бұрын

I love to use the Slick trick ss3

@nathanielv9539 23 күн бұрын

Would have been interesting to have piece of canvas or something stretched over it to represent the hide/hair. Cool test regardless. Be interesting to see a slicktrick. Shot a whitetail quartered to fairly hard and it completely fractured the largest knuckle in the rear quarter. I was confident in that shot and she went down in sight, I was impressived with the damaged that deep.

@loganct5 23 күн бұрын

Smith bro's came out with a new broadhead this year, based in oregon. Would Love to see it tested on a real elk shoulder.

@Lazy-J-Outdoors 22 күн бұрын

I’d like to see the Helix Broadhead and the annihilator broadhead. I’m currently using the Helix but haven’t been able to use them on any animals yet.

@ceasniper4077 18 күн бұрын

Great job guys! What I would like to see also this year on your guys hunts is the penetration and wound channel after you find your animal. Thanks for all you guys for us!

@reptilefrenzyllc3721 12 күн бұрын

Looking to get into hunting my first year this year. Im a gun kind of guy but I do want to go bow hunting for some turkey this coming spring. What is a good starter bow? How much draw weight should I use?

@stephenesh7494 21 күн бұрын

Great video guys!!Just curious,where’s Cody,I haven’t seen content from him in a while?

@g.mumford7980 9 күн бұрын

Would like a test on the Annihilator broadhead. I would almost bet it would do as good as or even better than the QAD!

@jonbrown9490 23 күн бұрын

In defense of the VPA, they are definitely not "hunting sharp" out of the box. I'm not sure that they would have performed better had you sharpened them prior to the test, just given the nature of the test, but it's worth mentioning.

@damiandesatoff2134 22 күн бұрын

What was your overall arrow weight? I've ran exodus for years. They have been a great broadhead. For the last 2 years, I kind of went away from them. But after this, after watching this, it made me think why I stopped using them. Great video. This is definitely the best way to test a broadhead.

@wesr1490 16 күн бұрын

I'd be really interested to see what the REK broadheads would do.

@philipmedlin8902 20 күн бұрын

On every test the Born and Raised guys have done the Exodus has won. But you still continue to shoot something else. I love Exodus. They cut an actual hole. The blood trails are insane. Seekone guys did the same test and the Exodus won. They continue to shoot expandable. Crazy to me.

@robbydallis760 23 күн бұрын

Love the test. I know there’s no way to truly represent everything, but I would have loved to see you put hide over the front and maybe use something like a watermelon on the back. I’m still using my mechanicals, cause I’m definitely not ever trying to be anywhere near that shoulder!!

@masonanthony4851 8 күн бұрын

How about trying tooth of the arrows 125 gr. 1" solid broadheads?

@thistledewoutdoors3331 9 күн бұрын

Is a shoulder blade on the hoof different than one thats defleshed and frozen? You would think there has to be some difference.. The density of what the blade is attached to - allowing it to penetrate further instead of flexing and absorbing impact ???

@pondhopper12 23 күн бұрын

Can you try the ramcat diamondback and the annihilator broadheads?

@CascadePacificNW 6 күн бұрын

Is the QAD you shot the swept or full blade?

@trevenbutler 17 күн бұрын

What is the bow dl and weight and arrow weight?

@rickpeterson6350 23 күн бұрын

Maybe you said it but I didn't hear it. How much did the arrows weigh? I would like to see heavier vs lighter set ups with the same broadheads for next year...... Thanks for the video. Good stuff.

@xforce708 16 күн бұрын

Y’all said it. Just stay out of the shoulder. The Exodus was impressive in this test though. But archery kills by massive hemorrhage and in my near 40 years of bow hunting expandables have just been giant blood trail, quick killers for me on deer. No elk here where I am in SC 😢 Good video guys.

@CRR8980 23 күн бұрын

Muzzy three or four blade shooters choice, and I’ve been wondering about these annihilator broadheads🏹🇺🇸

@kaseyfield1059 23 күн бұрын

What's the specs of the bow used...and arrows

@kameronmerrick7078 23 күн бұрын

Test the Kayuga broadheads, the trizot and the pilot cut gen ii

@bornandraisedoutdoors 23 күн бұрын

Kody has had great results with the kayuga

@mkeller8114 22 күн бұрын

These type broadhead tests favor short ferrule broadheads as they don’t have as much blade length drag going into the cardboard. Single bevel with a 500-600 grain heavy arrow is the ticket.

@bornandraisedoutdoors 22 күн бұрын

A shorter 3 blade has more surface area than a longer 2 blade. Surface area = friction

@MrDarwhite 21 күн бұрын

@@bornandraisedoutdoors Have you considered the way a single bevel cuts? It separates flesh, but in cardboard, it stops that arrow very quickly because it's more than simple straight friction. It's trying to pry that cardboard apart as it cuts. They penetrate in real elk, especially in a heavier arrow. I shoot a 200 grain Grizzly Stik Maasai. My 2023 elk was quartering hard to me and I hit him very close to the shoulder. It passed through his lung, liver and hay packed stomach. It then went out his far hindquarter and stuck into a stump behind him. No surprise there. He had no clue what happened. He started walking again and died 35 yards later. The broad head still shaves. There are a LOT of great broadheads and I was also impressed with the exodus, but don't take away my Maasai's please :-)

@1UofACat12 7 күн бұрын

@@MrDarwhiteEXACTLY! These guys don't understand that elk aren't cardboard & single bevel with EFOC & 650 gr., the only problem you have is finding the arrow 30 yards beyond where the elk was.

@100bruceba 23 күн бұрын

Did that first expandable loose a blade out the right side on to the grass?

@marlosteed 16 күн бұрын

Yeah, VPAs are designed to be sharpened before taking those into the field - again not sure if that would have impacted your test.

@jandimaxwell6573 23 күн бұрын

what poundage are you pulling? what is your arrow weight?

@obsessionoutdoors 23 күн бұрын

Try the Evolution Outdoors heads

@antoniobustamante548 23 күн бұрын

Evolution and kayuga pilot gen 2

@Chadb11 23 күн бұрын

I wish these kind of tests could be done at statistically significant numbers. With a single shot with each, it’s impossible to control for slight torque in the shot (imperfect arrow flight), differing mediums (shoulder blades different from inch to inch and animal to animal), etc

@toddzoro9831 22 күн бұрын

These tests are entertaining, but I completely agree with you in that you can't draw many conclusions from just a few shots and greatly varying mediums.

@jeepguy04 23 күн бұрын

How many times did Trent say I’m impressed lol

@bornandraisedoutdoors 23 күн бұрын

I’m impressed

@jeepguy04 23 күн бұрын

@@bornandraisedoutdoors ur kids r going to be great hunters can’t wait for other hunts with the kiddos

@thistledewoutdoors3331 9 күн бұрын

Montec G5's from 2014 with a BT RPM360 are still ripping thru car and truck doors, washing washines & a semi trailer...... Idk.

@wildernessoutdoors6875 17 күн бұрын

Like to see how the Magnus Black Hornet Ser- Razor does. Tested it on a dairy cow shoulder blade with a watermelon behind it. Did pretty good, but like y’all said, not the real thing. And I didn’t hit that edge on the scapula.

@km6731 23 күн бұрын

I hit a cow elk humerous square and the arrow went in 10-12 inches with a 1 inch bone BH single bevel with a 650 grain arrow at 46 yards.

@EntryLvloutdoors 23 күн бұрын

What spine are these arrows

@JSturdivant 18 күн бұрын

What's the total arrow weight y'all are shooting? Testing broadhead design in an apples to apples test is great, but results may very for other shooters shooting different weights.

@PCB-dr5vu 23 күн бұрын

I was Curious the Pounds he's pulling and the arrow weight, just for Comparison.

@davidholliday2703 19 күн бұрын

Trent, I think it was you that hunted with Aaron from THP when he put a single bevel through a bull elk front to back at about 20 yards. Got video guys. Still have to get through the hide and muscle before you encounter bone and the mechanicals are going to suffer even more. Finally, when you hit heavy bone, the Ashby stuff comes into play, so arrow mass and f.o.c. are factors along with a stouter broadhead, say 200 grains.

@WMBCS 18 күн бұрын

Ashby ran his test with 35 lbs kinetic energy

@returnofsid 23 күн бұрын

I really hoped the Sever would have done a lot better. I've been pondering trying them. No longer pondering. I wanna see Slick Trick and Muzzy! Currently shooting 125 grain 4 blade Slick Trick. Very very impressed with the Exodus and how it performed.

@bornandraisedoutdoors 23 күн бұрын

This is an extreme test as you hope to never hit an elks shoulder blade, with that said we have used sevrs on a couple critters and had decent results for a mechanical

@mkeller8114 22 күн бұрын

The sever hit the other broadhead which hindered the penetration.

@scottbryant6349 21 күн бұрын

Sevrs are good heads if you have a decent setup. I used them in the fall for Whitetail and had 30" of penetration on a full frontal shot on a doe that whirled, and severed both elbows of the buck I shot. They're decent heads and I'm sure the 1.5s would get a pass-through on an elk. Just depends on your setup. For mine, the blades took no damage as well.

@aaviator 21 күн бұрын

I did not hear them say what the total arrow weight was and what the FOC was . Both of those will have a big effect on penetration.

@tolt1776 22 күн бұрын

"Still feels sharp" 😅😅

@kevinkerr2847 21 күн бұрын

I’d like to see an elk shoulder in front of a larger block of gel. It would be a much better comparison to the body cavity than compressed cardboard. Maybe even drape a hide over it. Cool video though

@kane2298 20 күн бұрын

I would have liked to have seen how having hide over the front would have changed things. Try pushing one through that's not a cut on contact head vs one that is, huge difference

@brandonlee8922 23 күн бұрын

Helix?

@Westernedgeoutdoors 23 күн бұрын

Test the sig 300 win vs the sig 6.5 creed, that would be a good example of two very controversial cartridges for elk!

@steverayevich1436 23 күн бұрын

Try the bowmar beast I believe it's probably the best thought out mechanical on the market

@bornandraisedoutdoors 23 күн бұрын

We couldn’t get our hands on any

@jaymiller286 23 күн бұрын

Would like to know the total weight of the arrows and the FOC of each with broadhead.

@jeff_8789 23 күн бұрын

would all be the same with exact same arrows with all 125 heads weight and foc is identical on all them

@johnh1464 23 күн бұрын

Good representative test- I will never use expandable on any big game animal.

@calebsmith1454 21 минут бұрын

Try the 175 gr bear razorhead, sharpening them first just like hunting in real life, they blow a hole straight through and no damage. It's incredibly impressive. Even step back to 50 yards and they will blow threw way more than anything else but I haven't tried ranch fairy heads yet

@trackhoehunter2544 16 күн бұрын

One thing that is not taken into consideration here is what is on the other side of every single animal shoulder blade that has ever been shot!? Ribs! Now I know there are gaps in between those and it's not going to happen every time but imagine hitting both. =Not good for any head, but looks like The Exodus might be the best. Thank you guys for your time with doing this test !

@bryang416 23 күн бұрын

Bow poundage?

@Gunnut10mm 23 күн бұрын

I think this is a good test. I liked that the rig was not super solidly mounted and moved a little under arrow impact animals move under impact. I have a tough question for your next test maybe. What is the total length or volume of cut you can get into a soft target? I have long feared the shoulder of elk and intentionally planned to shoot for mid lung to stay away from it. Will that Iron will with bleeders spin around 6 times as it passes through a critter adding additional cutting that negates the advantage of having a more conventional 3 or 4 blade design. My thoughts here is say your shot is slightly back and it's a one lung/liver hit what wound is going to be larger, stay open better, and hopefully put it down faster. A shot through a few layers of cardboard and into a beef liver might be a good way to check this out. I think lots of people have a pretty good idea of what broadheads penetrate enough to do the job well but a side by side look at a wound track after it has had to overcome something to dull the blades a bit. I know people who have killed plenty of elk with muzzys slick tricks, and thunderheads, i have my doubts on their ability to pop through a shoulder but i think they would probably do a great job of creating a large plenty deep wound for the back half of the lungs. I love seeing options that there are options that may poke through the scapula and deliver a lethal injury when something has gone a little wrong. What happens if that the elk whirls the other way at the shot and it's slightly back instead of forward.