Emotiva BASX MR1 Available Now

Emotiva BASX MR1 Available Now - $1,999

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Emotiva BASX MR1 Available Now - $1,999. Emotiva just made their new BASX MR1 available for purchase on their website. This is their first receiver. They call it a "Home Cinema Receiver" and has 11 channels of amplification and supports 13.2 processing.
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Here is the direct link to the BASX MR1 page:
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Be sure to check on their video where Dan gives a detailed overview including the components that comprise the MR1.
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@steelehad2540 Жыл бұрын

I just received my new MR1 got it all hooked up and it sounds awesome. Coming from a yamaha 760A it is like I got all new speakers. I have RBH T2's for the front and center speakers and listening to music in stereo gave me a perma grin for hours. The extra power was what these speakers needed.

@msironen Жыл бұрын

Amplification-wise, it's very impressive. Feature-wise, it's barebones as heck. Horses for courses and all that, but I think people are gushing over this thing a bit too much. Great for enthusiasts (maybe), not so much for consumers.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

The Emotiva XPA-11 Gen3 11 channel amplifier sells for $2,199. The MR1 is $1999 and has 11 channels of amplification based on the same amplifier technology. Granted the XPA-11 has a higher power output, but it is like you are getting the processor capabilities for free. It is common to gush over new products. I recall the Anthem AVM70 introduction, the Onkyo TX-RZ50 and the new Marantz Cinema series launches - lots of gushing. When the dust settles, it comes done to the right feature balance and performance. If the feature set is too thin, then the amplifier section isn't going to matter to consumers. Jon

@peterbrady4513 Жыл бұрын

Great looking av for the money, definitely interested in making a purchase!

@lbudt29 Жыл бұрын

That is a really nice receiver for 2k dollars. I would definately buy this unit. I have their two channel amp from last year and it made a huge difference in my system. Beautiful sound.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

I am really interested in comparing myself. Hoping to get a sample-Jon

@billybobby7607 Жыл бұрын

It'll have bare bones UI, settings, and room EQ.

@final3119 Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t unless you really want the cheapest 13 channel processing you can get with a $100 stereo amp. Emotivas software is bad. No hdmi 2.1. Room calibration is weak. Who is the target market here? Someone completely new to HT that doesn’t have an AVR, yet, but just happens to have a 7.x.4+ setup ready to go? Anyone that is already that deep into HT likely has thousand dollar amps and higher quality avrs/processors. x3800H + Stereo amp gets you 11.4 processing with separate subwoofer outs that work with audessey xt32 multi sub eqing, hdmi 2.1, auro 3d, and dirac coming in march with full bass control coming in 2024. If you want 7.4, this is what I would go with and it would cost less than the Emotiva with better everything except built in amplification. I dunno. I’d rather spend a bit more total for external amps for my front channels than be hamstrung by the emotiva avr.

@billybobby7607 Жыл бұрын

@@final3119 yeah totally agree this someone from with tonewinner AV. The only way I could see as one option is it's cheaper than even mid range avrs. Ie this tonewinner is £400, but amplifiers equal Denon 8500. You may decide to give up the features of a denon, for reason of power.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

Nice to have choices. I aim to compare to make those choices easier. -Jon

@nathanwhitmore7137 Жыл бұрын

I have been waiting for someone to test the sound and compare the MC1 to receivers like the denon 3800 or Onkyo RZ50. Testing the MR1 would kill two birds with one stone.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

Hoping to do so. Thanks for the suggestion. -Jon

@arndtbc Жыл бұрын

I own the Cinema 50 so I'm a bit a biased, I really like it. I love that the 50 looks elegant and unobtrusive in living room, my wife like that's too. The MR1 looks so bulky and industrial which some probably like, but its really in your face. Saying that I just got a Emotive BasX A3 to test in my system. I currently use the Parasound 2125 v2 for the L/R but want to test against a 3 channel amp and see if there's a difference in getting the same power to the L/C/R. The cinema feels like a fully baked product minus the DIRAC right now. The Emotive MR1 is a very cool first gen product that probably needs some refining. All in all I think they got something there especially in terms of power and the transformer, I wish them well with it.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

Brian, Nice to have a fellow Cinema 50 owner weigh in. I think you have positioned the two products correctly. The Marantz Cinema 50 is more of an elegant look, designed to blend in and subtlety notice like a cool piece of décor. The Emotiva appeals to the home theater esthetic with its blue lights is sophisticated in its industrial approach. The MR1 is released as part of their BASX line, but with the power amplifier section of their XPA line. One is to expect it to be minor DIRAC. I wouldn't be surprised if Emotiva released an XMC version. Perhaps call it the XMR1 with the addition of DIRAC and more balanced connections. Jon

@arndtbc Жыл бұрын

I wanted to post that I hooked the Emotive A3 and I didn't like the sound signature. I thought my old 2 channel Parasound 2125 v2 sound bigger, warmer. The Emotive sounded more neutral and clear but mad the sound a bit more in your face/harsh. At this point I think the Parasound matches better with Marantz more laid back rounder sound. Maybe I'll try adding another 2125 just for the center. or do nothing the Cinema 50 really sounds pretty good.

@razhua Жыл бұрын

just revisited this vid and yes it would be very interesting to see what are the differences in performance between the BASX MR1 and the Cinema 50 in sound as well as up mixes if you ever touch on up mixes topics. I can only imagine what a 7.4.4 would sound like. thanks for all you do for us avid learners and enthusiasts. Auro 3D has always intrigued me.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

What is great about Marantz (and Denon) is they support the most formats and features. The Emotiva supports less formats and features, but focuses on sound quality. It will be a neat comparison. -Jon

@ulissepellegrino7175 Жыл бұрын

If they had squeezed Auro 3D and the fact that doesn't need an external amplification it would've been a more complete home theater system. Whit a future Auro 3D update, which I doubt it, this receiver could have allot of potential.

@razhua Жыл бұрын

great initial review, I hope you can give us your impressions as far as the difference or similarities in sound with the Marantz cinema 50. that would be closer to apples to apples in comparison. thanks for the rime you putting into this reviews!

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

I hope to help out in this regard. This weekend I am preparing a test rig where I can A/B/C switch up to 16 channels for a pre-out comparison using the same external amps a speakers. I am also fine tuning the Audyssey calibration of the Cinema 50 using the MultEQ mobile app. That app has features not available on the receiver itself. -Jon

@razhua Жыл бұрын

I'm in the market, a 7.2 got me thinking I need at least a 7.2.4 to get the sweet spot for atmos at home. Looking forward to your reviews.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

I agree 7.2.4 is becoming the standard setup for those seeking Atmos

@nogunnofear6703 Жыл бұрын

Definitely interested. It has a lot to recommend it. I personally am glad it doesn't have dirac. That's way overpriced. Especially do like the channel volume trim on the remote control. Definitely like the Cool running toroidal amplifier. I'll see a lot more practical good than I do negatives.

@sammy10001 Жыл бұрын

I went to a boutique hifi store yesterday to audition a pair of kef ls50 meta. The auditioning room had a pair of monoblock mc901 mcintosh. This os a Hybrid 600 watt SS, 300 watt tube, total 900 watt monoblocks and mcintosh tube preamp and some Sonus Faber for L and R speakers. Crazy room. And was my first time listening to this type of gear. The owner asked me what I will be powering the ls50 with, and I told him I have my onkyo RZ50 for HT right now, but I am going to upgrade to an emotiva 2 channel stereo amp in the future. He told me emotiva is not a hifi sound, and they give you lots of power, but not the best power. Assuming what he says is true, and tbh that is the competitive advantage of this new AVR, and if you take away that advantage and just make it a feature, it falls on its face quick, because it also doesn't have hdmi 2.1, or dirac live. With high channel count applications, I think I would rather stick to anthem, arcam, jbl synthesis, etc.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

Sammy- I appreciate this topic. The Hi-Fi shop you describe has some high price inventory. They also don’t has access to Emotiva with their direct to consumer business model. So it serves them well to differentiate. I believe a comparison to Arcam, JBL Synthesis and Anthem is a better place to start for a receiver compare. Dirac and Anthem ARC Genesis will do better than EmoQ and the others have HDMI 2.1. I think the Emotiva MR1 pitch is at the $2000 price point. They aim to provide sound quality to compete with Anthem, Arcam and JBL Synthesis but at much lower prices - provided you forfeit some features. It is a trade off, but nice to see the option available. If the MR1 can outperform the Marantz/Denon/Onkyo/Pioneer tier they will find success with this model. If it underperforms it will fail.-Jon

@royr5527 Жыл бұрын

Definitely interested the only thing that bothers me is no 2.1 support. I wanna hear reviews on the sound quality. Chances are I'll most likely be picking this up soon lol.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

Emotiva has announced that the MR1, XPA-2, RMC-1L and RMC-1 models will have an upgrade path to HDMI 2.1. If that is a big deal for you, I would wait until they release. Dates have been know to slip. The HDMI 2.1 is currently discussed as a summer release. We will see. -Jon

@royr5527 Жыл бұрын

@ripewave Awesome thank you.

@longshot9078 Жыл бұрын

compare it too the Denon 3800H! all 8 K ,AURO 3D IMAX ENHANCED, and least we forget 4 sub outputs for $1699.00!!!! oh my

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

Waiting for Dirac to be available before I run that test - should be in March.-Jon

@MrShaggy789 Жыл бұрын

Very interested with this receiver.

@jamesmorse6486 Жыл бұрын

I am in the market for a new AV receiver. The Marantz Cinema 50 is on my short list. Would love to see a comparison video between the Emotiva MR1 and the Cinema 50. Maybe even with the new offerings from Denon and Onkyo.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

I hope to do that. Ideally timed with the release of Dirac for the Marantz. That way we are hearing the Marantz at its presumed best. I would of course try two passes - with Dirac and with Audyssey. -Jon

@techsamurai11 Жыл бұрын

@@ripewave That would be a fantastic comparison. My money is on the Emotiva despite owning just Marantz AVRs including multiple 8000 series.

@martinmiles8105 Жыл бұрын

And Now.....we need the complete review of the BASX MR1....and kindly compare to the Denon X4700H, the Onkyo TX-RX50. and the Yamaha RX A6A....many are in eager anticiapation...thanks.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

Timing - i want the Denon/Dirac upgrade available prior to these hand-to-head reviews. Should come in March I understand.

@nogunnofear6703 Жыл бұрын

I would like to hear an audio demo and hear the responses to the audio from The Listener. I know the sound wouldn't translate on video but I would like to hear it and observations about the sound in the room. I mean sound is really the point right? I can read the specs anywhere.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

I agree that the best reviews of audio equipment provide feedback on how it sounds. I am set up with an A/B/C switch to perform hapless compares between equipment under test. I provide my feedback based on those results. I do not record the audio due to copyrights of source material (and I want to use track I am very familiar with - not license free content) and that I don’t feel the recording and playback on your end can provide any meaningful reproduction of what I am hearing. I do think I even record my voice faithfully. I guess I need to get training on being a recording engineer. -Jon

@ShelbyGT500AZ Жыл бұрын

Are the channels assignable? How does the sound and separation compare with the cinema 50 in Home Theater?

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

I don’t have this in-house yet (working on it). However, I did read through the manual which says the following are assignable- Note: In system configurations with Front Wide speakers, the LMH and RMH Analog Outputs are reassigned to the Front Wide channels (as indicated on the rear panel). Won’t know how it sounds until we have one. Jon

@gregscott5853 Жыл бұрын

I believe the Emotiva fusion 8100 was the first or one of the first Emotive receivers.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

I just looked that model up at you are correct. Nice catch! Last time I listen to Dan at Emotiva who said in their intro video it was their first - how quickly they forget.-Jon

@gregscott5853 Жыл бұрын

@@ripewave Trust me. They want to forget about that one.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

Oh - so selective memory.

@gregscott5853 Жыл бұрын

@@ripewave It was pretty bad. Clunky UI, difficult to navigate the menu, channels intermittently and randomly dropping out. It did work but not well.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

I think it has taken their small team a while to learn how to develop software. Their strength started in hardware engineering- much different. Now I believe they have turned the experience curve and should do better.-Jon

@cgm246 Жыл бұрын

Comparo to the new Denon 2800/3800 would be sweet!! They both offer pros and cons...but i want to know about the sound since the RMC bests the Marantz.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

I may need to buy and return to control costs - Jon

@cgm246 Жыл бұрын

@@ripewave for now, maybe a spec sheet comparo until you can test one...

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

I can envision how that could be done. Thanks for the suggestion. -Jon

@BMWliterbikes4life Жыл бұрын

New subscriber here, My question is the DAC the same as the ones in the MC1? If they upgraded it that could be a game changer. The MC1 has a great sounding DAC btw.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

Thanks for subscribing and great question. Determining the DACs in AV Receivers (and processors) is often a hard detail to acquire - especially with new products. Our prior research identified the MC1 DAC as a Cirrus Logic CS42528, while the XMC-2 uses the AKM 4490EQ DAC (albeit, with all the supply issues - those could have changed). I understand that the RMC-1 (version 2 hardware) will come out this summer with a new DAC board and will move from AKM to TI. The XMC-2 will get revised to utilize the old RMC-1 design once that is delivered. What they placed in the MC1 is not yet known to me. Jon

@BMWliterbikes4life Жыл бұрын

So to understand you correctly , are you saying the DAC in the MR1 is not known?

@MrSzeryfx 8 ай бұрын

I have ordered MR1 and also stero amplifier A2 from emotiva, however I have heard now about so many bugs...that I am really concerned about this. Lack of some features doesn't bother me as I am mainly looking for the sound experience which no doubt MR1 will deliver for my front stereo setup with JBL HDI 3800 -how ever the issue with the some bugs and no firmware update is fricking me out. How was Your experience during testing?

@ripewave 7 ай бұрын

I have yet to test the MR1 inhouse. The review that you viewed was based on the documentation and online research I conducted. I haven't heard of the bugs with this series from Emotiva as much as the early days with the RMC-1, RMC-1L and XMC-2 series. Have you been able to power up yet? Let me know how it is going. -Jon

@MrSzeryfx 7 ай бұрын

Quick Update: MR1 is now running JBL HDI3800 and JBL Subwoofer for a week like a tank. Never had a single issue. It is working like a dream, no point to even mention sound quality. Unit is booting up in around 4-5 seconds. Setup was so simple and intuitive. Yes some features are missing however I have this connected to Apple Tv and it is working perfect. If any one have any question let me know. So far everything I've heard before about bugs - does not apply to my Unit - I've never owned EMOTIVA before and I have already felt in Love with this company and their stuff. The design is perfect for me and A2 on top of MR1 looks fantastic! Quality of the build is really impressive. So far 10/10

@WhatFunTimes 6 ай бұрын

If you could only have one - the Sony STRAZ-7000ES or this one by Emotiva, which would you choose?

@ripewave 6 ай бұрын

I would keep my Emotiva RMC-1. That may not be a universal opinion. Aside from better sound quality, which is my #1 criteria. my reasons are- -Balanced outputs - balanced input for my turntable preamp connection - Dirac Live will more flexibility to fine tune - Usability, how to navigate when using and details on screen and front panel about input/output signals and modes - build quality - independent subwoofer outputs I do give at on Auro-3D and the Sony 360 Spatial Sound and 360 Reality Audio support. Of those Auro-3d is the biggest loss. Jon

@bighurmjr 8 ай бұрын

Has there been a review on the MR1? I was hoping more people wanted to get the full review on it.

@ripewave 8 ай бұрын

Not yet. I may address in December or early January. BasX is one of the last ranges to reviews in-house

@bighurmjr 8 ай бұрын

@@ripewave understood. Thank you for all the great and helpful reviews.

@Audiomainia2310 Жыл бұрын

Everything about this Emotiva MR1 makes me want to pull the trigger, except 1 thing is missing - no Wi-Fi capability? Am I correct? HDMI 2.0 is ok - I don't game nor is any 8K content out there. Not for a long time in my view. But Wi-Fi is an absolute must. Could you clarify?

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, you are correct - no Wi-Fi. In fact, no Ethernet - wired or wireless. Only Bluetooth. -Jon

@Audiomainia2310 Жыл бұрын

@@ripewave Sad. A manor streaming requirement overlooked. That makes no sense. Thanks Jon.

@trauma50disaster1 Жыл бұрын

I don't believe it has Auro3D which I like to use for upmixing

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

You believe correctly. No indication that Emotiva will add Auro3D to any model. Dealbreaker for some. -Jon

@jb.2986 Жыл бұрын

@@ripewave Agreed.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

Somehow I know you would jump in on that one. -Jon

@jb.2986 Жыл бұрын

@@ripewave 🎵🎵🎵😁

@christisdale9977 Жыл бұрын

I only had Denon and Onkyo receivers.Can you stream Spotify,Amazon and such?

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

No streaming yet on Emotiva products. Heard it is coming this summer. Regardless, I prefer to stream from external devices - AppleTV as the apps are better.-Jon

@christisdale9977 Жыл бұрын

@@ripewave Thanks for the reply

@dennishill290 Жыл бұрын

Can it beat..Yamaha Rx-a8a aventage.... should be interesting Reviews down the road...... !

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

Heard the only negative is YPAO. Otherwise very solid. -Jon

@louthelegend Жыл бұрын

I just bought the Cinema 50 Now I'm interested in this motiva I can't wait to hear your advice on what it sounds like I had 2 subwoofers hooked up to my cinema Yet if this motiva is better I want it I should have time to trade it in Let me know your thoughts quickly please

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

I’ve asked Emotiva for a sample.-Jon

@final3119 Жыл бұрын

The Cinema 50 will be miles better. Better software, EQ, dirac coming in march. The only thing Emotiva has more of is power per channel and 2 extra processing channels. Keep your Cinema 50. Invest in an amp if you need more power for your main channels.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

@@final3119 I think the best way for me to really know is to compare in house side-by-side. I will be getting the Dirac upgrade and comparing both types of calibration software as well. There will be overall winners and winners are price points and winners best of use cases. It should be fun to discover together. -Jon

@frankkniseley9951 Жыл бұрын

No HDMI 2.1...that's a deal breaker

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

Are you wanting HDMI 2.1 for 8K 60hz or another features it brings - 4K 120hz, VRR, QMS, … -Jon

@frankkniseley9951 Жыл бұрын

@@ripewave ...4k 120hz for gaming

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

Yes - for gaming applications I would insist on HDMI 2.1 support. I am not a fan of the work around with eARC. With eARC you loose the on screen display. Unless they provide a web interface, that feedback is missed. -Jon

@frankkniseley9951 Жыл бұрын

@@ripewave I agree with the workaround

@billyfiallos9009 Жыл бұрын

basx mr1 vs onkyo rz70 which is better?

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

While the Emotiva MR1 is likely to provide better amplification and balanced subwoofer outputs at a lower price, the Onkyo RZ70 provides a lot more features- DIRAC, HDMI 2.1, AURO 3D, IMAX, THX, Ethernet/Wi-Fi with streaming, etc. the MR-1 is Bluetooth in only while the RZ70 is Bi-directional. -Jon

@davidferros4655 Жыл бұрын

Am trying to decide get this item then get all the speakers and sub etc. Or just buy all on one box the Namki 11.4 system the Dragon The room is 12 x10 8 ft roof My bedroom

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

That smaller size room is certainly something the Nakamichi Dragon (the speaker, not the vintage tape deck) is aiming to address. The question to ask yourself is are you willing to run all the wires associated with traditional surround sound setups? -Jon

@BostonMike68 11 ай бұрын

I really want something I can listen to hi quality music with but I also want surround for music. I was thinking of getting separates.

@ripewave 11 ай бұрын

A well calibrated AV Receiver using a full set of pre-outs can get you close to the performance of an AV Processor separate. However, if you have the full set of external amplifiers, then going to a true AV Processor gets you their with less effort and risk of falling short. -Jon

@BostonMike68 11 ай бұрын

@ripewave my avr doesn't have pre outs I didn't think I would want more at the time

@ripewave 11 ай бұрын

Yes - that would cause you to upgrade in order to improve your amplification. When you upgrade you also have the option to find an AV Receiver with pre-outs as a cost savings measure. -Jon

@BostonMike68 11 ай бұрын

@ripewave thanks Jon that's definitely going to be on my list of requirements. I listen to a lot of 2 way audio and was wondering if I would be satisfied with the sound quality of emotivas avr because it definitely looks like a solid piece.

@Edward135i Жыл бұрын

Really not a fan of cheap budget Tonewinner processor that the MR1 is based on. You can get a x6700h for $2099 on accessories4less right now, and I think i'd way rather have that, because the software is so much better on the denon.

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

William - Yes, the MR1 is targeted towards budget market as part of the BASX range. Not sure if Tonewinner uses Emotiva tech or vice versa, but that is not that important - it is share tech regardless. The Denon software user interface (and Marantz) as among the most polished in the industry. Albeit, I find that they need improvement in usability and are a bit slow at times. The UI in the Emotiva RMC-1 is plain text basic - but I find more intuitive and faster to navigate. Emotiva lacks a webUI today. Denon also has HEOS. Emotiva aims to add streaming support this summer to some models. -Jon

@wwlittlejOfficial Жыл бұрын

short of the powwer delivery, this thing is a few years behind the times. No wifi, no HDMI 2.1, list goes on. Ill take a denion 3800 over this any day for the same price.

@shaolin95 Жыл бұрын

No Dirac or at least XT32... Fail

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

That will be an issue for some. I have yet to use a recent version of EmoQ so I can't fully assess. I would like to get one in to compare with my reference equipment. -Jon

@ripewave Жыл бұрын

@blue wave it is nice to hear feedback on EmoQ. I hope to bring in the MR1 to experience for myself. Fair point of room correction software not nailing it 100% on its own. I feel that calibration should be focused mostly on counteracting room reflections. After that it’s tone controls which are to everyone’s personal preference.-Jon