Bro went from reviewing bikes to producing cinema masterpiece. Sound Effects, image quality and edit is 🔥🔥🔥🔥

It’s nice and all, but what the market is really waiting for is a sub 19kg inc 500Wh+ battery, full power, good looks and sub £5k. Whoever gets there first will clean up.

As an ebike owner and owner of previous Carbon Mtb’s the first major issue with e-bikes is THE COST! And to be honest no mater the brand -there’s no way it justifies the price . The second major issue seems to be the price DEPRECIATION . With new models coming out fairly quickly pre owned bike prices are crashing. Third major issue is - as mentioned- not enough cross compatibility or cross upgrade ability.

Deer, ponies and ebikes in a drone shot! What more can I say...Bravo.

I went from a Sworks LEVO full powered to this Mondraker Neat and I am more then happy!!..excellent choice. I was tired of the power of a full eMTB, the weight in tech tight switchbacks etc and the noise! also missed the natural feel and the effort on the climbs...and this bike nailed all of that!!!! its a beauty and so well made

Cinematic masterpiece as always Rob 🤌🏻

Those horses from the background are just...... Amazing 👍

man I love your videos the footage is just amazing, even though I personally don't care about lightweight ebikes I still watch the full video just because those shots are so pleasing I mean is like an emtb movie, there is even a beautiful horse galloping around and animals on those hills. magnificent I was even wondering when you would release a new video.

Hey Rob couple of years into my trek fuel EXe and totally agree with your comments, I still ride my regular analog bike as well but when it’s hot or I’m squeezing in a quick after work ride the EXe is my first choice for sure. I ride solo mostly so running in lower power modes no issues for longer rides. When riding with mates on full fat bikes I can rinse my battery super quick trying to keep up so will look at a range extender this year but can usually ride home unpowered without too many issues just slow going. When away I usually hire a full fat bike and enjoy them very much but always glad to get back on the quieter more playful machine round my home trails. Swapped out the standard fox 36 rhythm fork for Fox performance elite 38s originally ran 170 on the front but settled back on 160mm travel which appears to be the bike and myself’s sweet spot regarding steering and handling, installed better tyres as stock options were pretty easy to kill on my rocky loose trails no issues with reliability so far vey happy with the bike all round.

On full-powered I feel like I'm the understudy in the rider-bike relationship, on analog the physical stress often overshadows the fun. I got soaked into riding SL mid-assist last spring and I couldn't agree more with your review👍 5400 miles on my Trek Fuel EXe. I have 2 full-size 360Wh batteries and on long trips the spare (4lbs) gets strapped into my backpack. Range? I went 76.2 mi→ 5230 ft↑ last fall in Taos highland using ECO and a little bit of TRAIL in the steep😄

The price for this bike is $21K AUD. who in their right mind would pay that!

Some great camera work Rob, looks an interesting bike.

Headset cable routing (someone tought that was a good idea three years ago !) and the price are the only reasons I wouldn't buy one. Lovely looking bikes.

I believe the transition relay (also an ebike) is available in a spec that is about 18 kilos (39-40 lbs) also.

Really nice video Rob. The scenery is just amazing! Just one question. Can you compare the Mondraker to the Levo SL or the Kenevo SL?

Hiring wild horses to be in your video... You really outdid yourself!

Looks great but tbh when you can still get a levo with 700WH and 90NM for 22kg it just doesn’t make any sense to buy this IMO

This bike seems great. I have a full fat emtb (Nukeproof Megawatt) and I ended up losing around 13kgs last year from dieting. Now my full fat almost seems like too much power and battery for me because I keep it on eco mode when climbing. The Neat looks like it would give me just enough assist and battery while being 18 instead of 24kgs.

Nice review Rob, lovely cinematography

Hi ! I will not choose this bike because there is a Rotwild RX 375 which weighs 18.5 kg and has a full 85nm Shimano motor and an easily replaceable 360 battery. This is a bike from two worlds. You should definitely try it !

My Pivot Shuttle SL is a bit lighter and stronger. I usually just ride it on the lowest setting. I find it enough and it truly rocks

I’m about to buy a Trek Fuel Exe with the TQ motor. But won’t be leaving it as standard. It’s good but is lacking about 200w of power. So my plan is to rip the electronics out and replace with a tuneable ESC and get around 500W from it

Sorry Rob .... 2021 Orbea Rise M ltd -series 15.9 kg..... 60 Nm....

This is a well done ad. Much more of an obvious paid for sales pitch than usual. The music, the serenity, "serenity now!" The bike? Doesnt make enough power, doesnt come with a big enough battery, its for people that want an e bike that doesnt look like an e bike. 85NM is just about enough, I want an e bike that goes like an e bike. I really think credibility is seriously downgraded when a post becomes an ad. Money is money.

Nice review Rob, love the idea of the TQ motor, at 61 after 30+yrs of riding mtb bought a 2nd hand levo Sl this time last year. Some of my analogue mates don't get it, still call it cheating but the ability to still get a workout but ride further or faster with an Sl bike is the best of both worlds. Like the idea of the removable battery which the levo sl hasn't got. For me where money is tight a well researched low mileage 2nd hand bike is the way forward. £3.5k for my carbon sl expert + a range extender. Since up graded to GX Axs shifting, don't know how I would live without axs now. Keep up the good work. Video on buying 2nd hand maybe?

Great review! Without taking anything from the review itself, Personally I dislike the notion of ANY bike "killing" traditional MTBs. (Not that top XC are exactly traditional, but... oh, well.) Just a short list, people still lift weights, run considerable distances, climb mountains (sometimes deliberately without gear), swim, and cycle without help. Some people (and not few) still want to feel they are 100% responsible for their sporting performance. That will not change in the foreseeable future, and I'd say even hundreds of years to come (as people competed for performance for millenias). Yes, ebikes will dominate amateur enduro (people who like only the downhill) and some other areas. Yes, ebikes are a rising force in many areas. But, "indistinguishable" is far from the only factor when considering ebike vs bike. Cheers, Keep up the good work 🙂

This is your nicest production yet! I had to check a few times to see if that herd of deer were digital!lol

You can get the Trek fuel exe 9.5 in the uk from various places on sale for £3899 carbon frame same motor lower spec components now that’s a deal

Incredible video and that Mondraker is really a nice bike! I am now entering in the emtb world and is Nice to know about the variety of type of bikes and functions. 🤙

When bikes reach this cost, you should get a range extender as part of the bike cost, also manufacturers should fit country/region specific tyres and you shouldn't need to change any parts, due them not being the very best you can get, only change should be personal preference.

Wow! Very nice filming

I saw one of these in the bike shop this past weekend. What a beautiful bike. Two problems with that one. First, it was $18k US and had to be shipped in from another state, ($18K is the problem, probably free shipping, HAHAHA). Second, it didn't run and the shop it was brought to didn't know what was wrong. The nearest shop that sold this bike was 8 hours away by car. Boutique brands are all well and good, until you need work. These bikes are getting very complicated to work on.

It's funny how the concept of lightweight has changed so much in recent years. Just to be clear: 19kg for a bike is not light.

Simply an epic review Rob!

Hey Rob, I have been looking at the KTM E-bikes such as the prowler, which have the bosch system with 750wh battery and not a bad price and not alot of reviews, if you get a opportunity it would be nice to get a review

Great vid looks like my backyard the Quantocs , since riding e-bike I have explored more in 5 years than I did 20 years on analogue😀

For many years I have dreamed of buying a mountain bike for 250-300 dollars. However, I cannot afford to buy a connection for my living conditions. Still a dream. If I had a mountain bike, I would be happy in this life to ride a bike in the mountains, this is my dream

I have a Trek Fuel EXe with the same TQ motor it lets me ride like I'm in great shape when I'm not. It's awesome! 😂 Seriously though, I haven't had a bad ride on it yet. It never makes you suffer.

I think it’s a little illogical as you need to comment on rider weight, location, effort etc. Eg, I’m 92kg, maybe 90kg trim, or 95 fully loaded with water, clothes and a few tools. On a full fat 750wH bike on a XC trail I can climb on 60% on Eco and end up with 50% battery left on 1000m’s of climbing. If I want to do an extra ride when not 100% rested on my local punchy hills I can burn through 80% on 25km’s and 1000m of climbing. So to do something similar let’s deduct 5kg for an SL and add in a battery extender or two and your pretty close. If your bike is dialled in, has good geo to begin with you just set your sag, tyre pressure and forget the rest and you don’t really notice the weight once your rolling. For me an SL just takes the edge off an analog ride or basically Eco on a full power. I do agree it is a pedal bike with a little assist. Thoughts anyone?

Is it possible to power the bike with just the external battery (internal remove). Reason I ask is the external battery is within the limit of 160wh for carryon for the flight. Wish TQ start breaking there 320wh battery into 2 pieces so that we can also put in on carry-on bag in the flight.

Cables through the headset? That's a hard NO!

Amazing love it but these days my Max bpm is 155 I'll stay with my 640w 80nm always enjoy your shows Rob 🙏🇦🇺

The elephant in the room? That's right, PRICE! Starts at nearly £7,000! That's the BASE SPEC!

Watching your videos feels like watching a movie. Amazing quality

Great shots with the deers and horse in the background!

Waiting in the long grass with my analogue bikes until these things get to about half of what they are looking for now

I love how understated these look. Mondraker is always on point with aesthetics. On the opposite end of the scale, where are you at with your Haibike review?

Lovely video, Rob, where was it shot? On the bike itself - manufacturers need to remember we're not all millionaires. Every car I've owned (prior to my current one) cost less than £5k, and there's just no way I'm going to spend more than that on a bike. Ever. Now, OK, my cars were all 2nd hand, but a car = 2,000 kg of steel and technology, whereas a bike = just 20kg of steel and technology. There's no way a bike should cost more than my car. Ever. £10k for a bike is just ridiculous.

I've owned a Trek Fuel Exe for 6 months now with the TQ50. It's definitely missing some of the fun factor you get from a full power ebike and also the range sucks. Honestly I think I would go either full fat or analog bike as the TQ is too much of a compromise.

Marketing team. We put less material in.. And get this. We charge them more!! 😂😂😂 Oh the irony.

I did make that choice this year with the Trek EXe with the TQ motor.

Honestly if this was offered in a mullet setup Id def have one, as I have the superfoxy, however for my mid powered fix I purchased the Heckler SL with the Fazua, awesome bike absolutely love riding it, however after only 4 rides the motor has started making the famous fazua rattle,,,, #warranty and still waiting... On the plus side the mondraker Neat is an awesome looking machine for sure, just think that they should have a little more grunt peak 450watts. Killer footage mate.

Great video as always Rob. Looking forwards to prices coming down on these as perfect set up for me but can’t justify second and car prices for my weekend hobby!

Man, are people that scared of being judged? I strapped a water bottle cage on the bottom of downtube. I never had clearance issues. Did that on everybike I've owned.

This is exactly the type of bike I have been looking for. A proper electric enduro bike. It's a real shame the price is so high. I hope other manufacturers will bring out cheaper alternatives.

Another perfect presentation, magnificent shots and edit!

I have a Fuel EXe and use the fidlock adaptor for the RE, its a really good solution, isnt this Mondraker basically a Fuel EXe? No downside there to have some other options.

My hope is that the over saturation of manufacturers and the difficulties they now face, will result in mergers and acquisitions that will create unbelievably well spec'd bikes. Instead of that horrible choice between different tech platforms, buyers can choose to purchase a bike with both. The sales would sky rocket due to demand for such a desirable bike and consequently a lower RRP and both manufacturers would likely survive the industries current level of insolvencies. A win win as they say

Two things i hate on E-bikes are exactly the sound of the motor, and the look of the bike. I like what i see here...!

I don't mountain bike but i Can't imagine a high maintenance mountain bike and the extra weight 🤔

When I was shopping for Levo I thought the lightweight SL emtb’s were silly. Now that I own a Levo and never take it out of Eco, I am way more open to the 50-60 nm class, especially if you can drop 10-15 pounds off the weight.

I'd love an ebike, they are so much fun to ride. Whats keeping me away right now is how difficult it'll be to buy replacement motors and batteries in 5 years time. Knowing these carbon frames will all end up in a landfill seems so wasteful, whereas my regular bike I can keep on going for many more years - provided my knee's can. I really want an ebike, but as things are, I just can't.

Looked up some stats on the Neat R-the “more affordable” $7,999 one. It’s 41.7 lbs. But it doesn’t say what size- M or L? Be good to know, bc that makes a difference. Has a Fox 36 and Exo + casing tires and 200 mm rotors instead of a 38 and DD tires and 220 mm rotors that my full power emtb has. And having destroyed two tires this past year just demoing these bikes for an hour, and seeing how much I burn the brakes on mine bc of how fast I’m going, I really think those things are helpful. 36 vs 38- goes to riding style- you def will want to be able to pick your lines and flick the bike more because you’ll want a 38 if you are smashing the way emtbs allow you to. Make those changes and now add the battery extender- you’re close to 50 lbs. Not much below some full power ones. My Large Oso is 53 lbs. And after really being intrigued by this category of bike, but doing the research and finding out these things, and then realizing how I like to ride emtbs (see my other comment) I really don’t understand the point of these. Not yet. They’re not quite light enough yet to fulfill their promises. With one exception- the ones that allow you take out the battery and ride without it. Because the almost zero drag motors are a game changer when riding sans power. To me, that would be my use case for these bikes- one bike I can have to take places and ride it with or without the battery.

Great video and the quality of cinematography was awesome!

I love the look of this bike but in reality I don’t think I could go from a 600 watt, 750 Wh Mondraker Crafty to a bike that has half the power and battery. I mean I’m sure I would get used to it and I’d probably get fitter but I’d be going a lot slower up the climbs which is part of the reason why I love my ebike and also my GF has a full power ebike so she would just be waiting for me all the time. I think I’ll stick with the full power bikes but I hope that the batteries will get lighter soon and I also hope that Mondraker start selling XL Mondraker Crafty Carbon in NZ because currently they only sell the carbon bikes in M/L size which means I’m stuck with alloy. Not that there’s anything wrong with alloy but carbon is just so nice.

The visual was outstanding for the video, Ill comment this, as with 29s its never a bad idea to put bigger tyres on an off road vehicle also lighter mountain bikes the same applying to. sound and waight .My off road 4x4 and dual sport nde desert dirt bikes take extra gas .Il take TWO extra batteries .

I love E-MTBs and it puts a smile on my face whenever I see a fellow cyclist riding one.. That said though, unless you're rich, I don't really recommend E-Bikes because of inability to upgrade and service.. The fact that it has a motor with moving gears means that it has to be serviced/maintained every now and then, and most LBS don't have the tools nor the expertise to perform such maintenance or God forbid something breaks.. After two years when a new model comes out that makes you current E-Bike obsolete, good luck finding parts for it.. For people who want to dip their toes on E-MTBs but want to make a safer purchase.. I recommend them to either buy an E-MTB with a Bafang Motor or buy a normal MTB and have it converted..

I'm sticking with my 85nm, 750w/hr GIANT........full fat, every time. Great video though.

I’d like to see a comparison Mondraker Neat vs the Whyte E-Lyte.

Would love this alongside my full-fat eebs and normal bike -Also ace camera work in these lastest vids man.

Rob, truly enjoyed your review!!! As I followed you back during your Isle of Skye adventure; where did you film this with the animals running in the background? Stellar review!!!! Blue skies...

Eagerly waiting for you Mondraker Dune full review.

Orbea Rise is 3 years old, lighter more powerful and a larger battery. Also has a range extender. The Mondraker is slacker though but I can see any additional benefit?

I love my kenevo sl , love the light weight and getting more exercise. Will never go back to 25kg lump.

Having one foot on the motorcycle industry and one on non electric MTB’s, e-bikes seems just silly, both for price and standardization. I am not even getting close to the e-bike market until it gets some standardization (as you wisely mention in a video last year) batteries, chargers, motors and so on…

How much did you pay the compares (deer and the horse)? I hope they got some good treats for these shots ;-) awesome bike, Mondraker just catapulted themselves up to my N°1 and 2 most wanted E-Bikes, with the Neat and the Dune

I'm totally not interested in (can't afford) this bike, but man, the shot that starts at about 4:28 is sooo good.

4 years with my YT Decoy and I see no reason yet to sell it. Only thing that would make me sell it is if it was 4-5 kilos lighter, but that probably means waiting for solid state battery tech which is years away.

Cost, "range" and longevity are 3 things regular bikes will always have over e-bikes. I love and prefer my ebike, but the sad fact is once the motor or battery gives up and the manufacturer no longer make them, the bike is done.

Pls test the Mondraker Level I think you will like this very much.

Not sure I get purpose of the range expanders. If you are going to carry all that weight in weird places why not just get a full power ebike? I understand the idea behind the lightweight bikes, there is definitely a market for it, but why try to make it something its not. I love my full power bike. Sure it's heavy but its designed to carry it well. If I want the lightweight experience I will ride my acoustic bike.

Thanks for a nice review Rob! Very interesting, think I'll keep my high powered e-mtb for now but I might go lightweight eventually. 👍

Really enjoy your reviews but as somebody who's looking to buy an ebike I really wish you would sometimes pass on the top spec models and give us a review of the entry level model which more people will find affordable

it's really serene and peaceful riding the bike aside from the loud squeaky brakes 🤣

Looks like a great bike if you want and need this type of bike. Death of my Ibis Ripley weighing in around 27#, I don't think so. In addition, I personally don't need this much travel. Just incredible how much bikes are costing in this day and age. Yes, the technology is there but it's still hard to swallow.

Have ridden a bunch of both lighter weight emtbs and full power ones, and having bought a full power Ibis Oso with the Bosch CX motor and 750 wH battery, I really enjoy the full power emtb experience. One thing I didn’t realize until riding emtbs, and from the comments it is clear that a lot of the naysayers don’t understand either, is that emtbing is a totally different thing than mtbing. You can plow through everything like on a DH track with a DH bike. You can rip singletrack trails at ridiculous speeds for extended periods with no let up, even on the hills. And when you want to get a boring slog over to get to the fun part, you can go to turbo and it’s done. And then, as you’re riding along, and you spy out of the corner of your eye the most stupid, steep, technical climb you can imagine, the kind of thing usually left to motos, you stop, turn off, and hit it. And the beauty is, if I want to work harder on not so insane stuff, I just go down to Tour Mode- with full power you can always go lower, but with mid power you can only go so high on the power and speed. Which brings me to another point I don’t get with mid power emtbs- touting the extender battery. By time you add that, and use a reasonable spec level, I’ll bet that bike will be not far from the 53lb weight of my Oso Size Large. I don’t ride my emtb at all like I do my regular mtb, and I don’t want to. Which is why, currently, I have no interest in a “lightweight” one. That climb you had to carry the bike up- on a full power you RIDE it. That’s the point to me of emtbs. Trying to have the same experience of an mtb with a motor is just not for me. When I want that, I’lll ride my analog bike.

I agree with a 450wh battery taking into account that 50Nm is good enough to climb faster and wont use as much battery as a full power heavy bike, would be compatible with a 650wh battery on a full power. I have my 2021 trek rail which im extremely happy with still, however im waiting for something that really call my attention on the Light weight category.

great video. Whereabouts is this filmed ? it looks amazing

Silent stealthy lightweight. This is the exact kind of mountain bike I’m looking for, except when it comes to the power numbers I’m 6 foot 4 and 210 pounds naked. I don’t think the power from this motor is going to be worth the cost over an acoustic bike for me but as soon as a mountain bike company can get close to this level of unobtrusiveness from the motor and also give me close to full power, that’s when I’ll be willing to spend big money.

When it comes to an emtb im not really looking at weight. Just give me more range and a great motor.

looks amazing, where was this filmed? would love to visit....

One reason someone might be reluctant to go this way with an ebike (and I am tempted) is that we live where too many trail systems prohibit any class of ebike. Yeah, the California Bay Area, one of the birthplaces of MTB bikes, prohibits eBikes on a huge proportion of trails. 😞

another great review! i bought my wild because your great video of it. What handle bar is on that bike?

Great video. How far away is re gen. ??

Very well done as always Rob!! Sure an interesting bike, and it look good ;) I am still debating what size of e-bike to get when it will come to that moment .. Right now I am leaning more towards lighter models.

how, just how.. did u get the deer shot, then the horse glowing in the dying sun.... amazing. never mind the bike!!

Hey Rob, which drone are you using in this video? Looks great and tracking really well!

"...apart from cost...": As I see it, bike manufacturing marketing departments can split cyclists into 2 groups: 1. those that are perfectly comfortable with the bike they have, don't need the latest carbon / tech gizmo to feel better about themselves & for whom cost/value is an actual & meaningful metric, and 2. the N+1 brigade that eat carbon croutons for breakfast, and who feel that annual & flashy new bikes/upgrades are a critical statement of their existance. Guess someone needs to keep the industry going then....🙂

Another bike with a smaller motor and battery that costs more than my full fat E-bike. Less motors and batteries on any electric car comes with a cheaper price tag. When the bike industry stops ripping us off on these SL bikes, I’ll be first in line to buy one 😮

Nice review. I just ordered the Specialized Levo SL Expert Carbon... Makes me think "did I make the right choice?". Also nice drone-shots, Rob!