Ender 3 IDEX: DIY Dual Extruder X-Carriage 3D Printer Installation Kit by SEN 3D

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SEN 3D

SEN 3D

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Visit EnderIDEX.com for more details and to buy the kit, files or parts.
If you want to print your own Ender IDEX from scratch watch this video: • Print Your Own Ender 3...
If you'd like to learn how to slice IDEX prints in Cura watch this video: • IDEX 3D Print Slicing:...
You can duplicate print, mirror print, 2 colour print and more.
Chapters:
00:00 Ender IDEX Installation Guide
00:55 The Printer
01:31 Baseline Object
02:05 The Kit
02:45 Remove Existing Board
04:24 New Motherboard
07:45 Test Print
08:28 Disassemble X-Axis
10:20 New X-Axis
16:10 Top Bar
20:28 Calibration
21:20 Bed Levelling
23:56 XY Offset
25:50 Mirror & Duplicate Mode
26:39 2 Colour Print

Пікірлер: 351
@willwebbjr
@willwebbjr 3 жыл бұрын
You did alot of R&D on this and it shows.
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words Will, I really appreciate your time watching my video and support 😁
@amateurhour-solderingelect345
@amateurhour-solderingelect345 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a brilliantly executed/engineered kit! Very well done.
@grahamdwells
@grahamdwells 3 ай бұрын
awesome video. clear in-depth without being patronising. Amazing kit too! very well thought out.
@patstarks
@patstarks 3 жыл бұрын
Thorough, Clear, and concise video! Tough to get all three of those together!
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
You are very kind, thank you for your wonderful feedback 😊
@Fury9er
@Fury9er 2 жыл бұрын
Love this, two heads are the 3d printing future, along with the high-speed resonance-sensing machines and real-time filament diameter sensing.
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words, I'm glad you like it 🤩 I agree, there are so many cool ideas and technology to come in the world of 3D. We've only just begun! 😲
@certified-forklifter
@certified-forklifter 3 жыл бұрын
just wanted to say your video quality is awesome. Nice video
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I really appreciate your feedback and support. 😁
@marko2210
@marko2210 3 жыл бұрын
I own another IDEX machines and so this is not aplicable for me, but i have to tell you, this is by far the coolest thing i’ve seen in a while. Very, very well executed. Great tutorial and great height adjustment mechanism for X2. Also, the whole thing looks like it’s well thought out. You have my sub now, hope to see more of such material. Keep the great work! Regards from Slovenia
@KanePowley
@KanePowley 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much marko2210, I really appreciate your kind words. What IDEX printer do you have? Do you use it for Duplicate printing or 2 material/colour prints more?
@marko2210
@marko2210 3 жыл бұрын
Kane i give credit where it’s due, and this is pretty pretty cool. Especially for wide ender audience. Anyhow, my IDEX of choice is Tenlog D3, run by DuetWifi+Duex5, with dual hemera. It’s pretty ok 😉 the other one is stock but currently on an operating table getting overhauled I mostly print dual color for work (architectural scaled models), dual material trials for some engineering weekend storming and duplication for stuff that get’s printed in volumes either for sale or for giveaways. So a lot of all i would say. In the works is a dual IDEX that will make quadruple and quad color/material available. Come join “MarX group” on facebook if interested. We could use a guy like you there 😉
@KanePowley
@KanePowley 3 жыл бұрын
​@@marko2210 ah yes, the Tenlog D3 is probably the other main entry point IDEX printer out there. Sounds like you've given it a serious overhaul...but then that's half the fun right? 😂😉 I love your use cases, it's exactly the kind of thing I envisioned when I started working on the kit and when I think about the power of an IDEX printer overall. Quad-IDEX, now you really have my attention 😯 I will definitely join the group, I'd love to see the progress that is making and help in any way if I can.
@marko2210
@marko2210 3 жыл бұрын
Kane we are just makers, aren’t we 😉
@christians.9430
@christians.9430 3 жыл бұрын
@@marko2210 do you mind sharing your duet config files? :)
@arthurmorgan8966
@arthurmorgan8966 2 жыл бұрын
Two different nozzle sizes idea is cool. You can have nice and fine detail perimeters, top fills, inside could be filled quickly, sturdier.
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, and even if you tend to switch from regular 0.4mm prints but every now and then like to blast out a 0.8mm or larger "rough" print...it ends the pain of frequent nozzle changes. I don't know anyone that actually enjoys changing out a nozzle, especially if you have ABL setup too 😅
@only4470
@only4470 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you soooooo much dude . This what i am finding. This video is very very helpful for me. Thank you so much again.
@bobcatt2294
@bobcatt2294 3 жыл бұрын
May I complement you on excellent production quality on: lighting, audio, audio levels camera angles, close ups and a clean well lite background. Thumbs up.
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, you're very kind. It takes a lot of work to make a video like this and your kind feedback really means a lot 🙂
@retroluminico
@retroluminico 3 жыл бұрын
I found this an excellent option to get dual extrusion on a budget. You can print with soluble supports for a very reasonable price with this kit. I’m fighting with my self to buy it Excellent development!!! Congratulations!!
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words, it really does mean so much to me. I'd love to have you join the growing community of "IDEX owners" soon but in the mean time your support is amazing. Reach out and let me know if I can answer any questions of help you with anything. 😁👍
@haworthluke
@haworthluke 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing my friend I've been looking for a manageable solution to dual extrusion on my Ender 3. I will be looking to order your kit for sure
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind words Luke 😊 I'm glad you like my kit and maybe one day you'll be an Ender IDEX owner too (you can also buy just the files now and print your own if you want a bigger project 😮) At the very least I hope I have inspired you to look into and try something new with your machine 😊
@emberprototypes
@emberprototypes Жыл бұрын
Wow this is super cool! Didn't know there was a kit out there for Ender IDEX. We make a camera tool for doing the XY offset more accurately and easier. If you're curious there are some videos on our youtube channel showcasing it.
@samdajani2573
@samdajani2573 2 жыл бұрын
its actually the best in the market because u will have both ender 3 and idex the only thing holding me is waiting for them to upgrade the kit because at the left side the original extruder don't go farther more which don't allow the new extruder to maximize the space to the edge force a smaller printing space for the dual color and i am waiting the kit for ender S1 extender size and idex
@gastondombiak1538
@gastondombiak1538 3 жыл бұрын
Very impressive job! Your video is also very good and clear!
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gaston, you are very kind 😊 Do you have an Ender 3 (or a few 😜)
@gastondombiak1538
@gastondombiak1538 3 жыл бұрын
@@SEN3Dcom 1 Ender 3 (heavily customized, probably the frame and the LCD screen are the only original part left) and a Prusa MK3
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
@@gastondombiak1538 Nice, how do you think the Ender and Prusa compare?
@gastondombiak1538
@gastondombiak1538 3 жыл бұрын
SEN 3D both work very well and reliable for me. Ender With bltouch, creality glass bed and all metal hot end performs as well as the MK3. I then added 32 bit board with latest marlin and hemera hot end and it is now even better. I use both printers for same kind of work. Both reliable. Both good.
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
@@gastondombiak1538 That's really interesting and good to get your view. It seems fairly rare to find owners of an Ender and a Prusa. The vast majority of printer people seems to live in one camp of the other :)
@thecursedmodder1
@thecursedmodder1 Жыл бұрын
The is sick i have thought about putting a second extruder on my printer
@krishnabeesoony8698
@krishnabeesoony8698 2 жыл бұрын
what if you want to print 2 different print having different heights? love the design by th way
@johanngeorgvogginger7227
@johanngeorgvogginger7227 2 жыл бұрын
Very good video!
@bryanblaise79
@bryanblaise79 Жыл бұрын
Can this be used for the Ender S1/S1 Pro? What modifications would need to be made (hardware or firmware)?
@nathanbunten4299
@nathanbunten4299 Жыл бұрын
do you have a kit with the motor mounted on right side? duel z. Also can you run a micro swiss on these?
@poramatporamat5535
@poramatporamat5535 Жыл бұрын
Hey can I select only supports structure to use PVA filament?
@Adopted_Gaming
@Adopted_Gaming Жыл бұрын
Will this still work with the BL touch on the first extruder?
@superchargewither2893
@superchargewither2893 7 ай бұрын
Hey there, a quick question, would this work on the new Ender 3 V3 KE? It has a Sprite direct drive extruder, and is a bit different compared to the Ender 3. If it does not work, what suggestions might you have for a Dual Extrusion upgrade for my Ender 3 V3 KE? Thanks.
@bretbeebe4061
@bretbeebe4061 9 ай бұрын
I noticed you printed a purge block on your 2 color print. Is this required?
@Alpha-ez9dc
@Alpha-ez9dc 11 ай бұрын
amazing tutorial, quick question is this compatible with the ender max neo?
@unlock-er
@unlock-er Жыл бұрын
Hiya, just stumbled upon this as I was looking to get into 3D printing and interested in getting Ender 3 V2 neo. Just wondering if this kit will work with that model? also, how does this work if I'm looking to get the extruder replaced with a double direct extruder? thirdly, can this be klippered? Thanks
@CaptainPrinterMan
@CaptainPrinterMan Жыл бұрын
I assume this will work if I have the extender kit (400x400x400)? I also have a direct drive extruder so could the other hotend have another one of those equipped? Also could I have marlin or klipper installed with this? Are there any limitations to the motherboard, I have a bl touch, runout sensor, and octopi running
@MrMann-dw5uh
@MrMann-dw5uh Жыл бұрын
How would I make this work with a linear rail installed on the front of the x-axis?
@StSwagzz
@StSwagzz Жыл бұрын
What if you add bl touch too one or both of the extruders
@kamiwey
@kamiwey 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome, if you can do something like that for Artillery for sure I will get one. Great job do.
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I'll have to look into a version for the Artillery soon 😉
@kamiwey
@kamiwey 3 жыл бұрын
@@SEN3Dcom meanwhile I’m thinking to buy an ender 3. You ship to spain?
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
@@kamiwey I do indeed 😊
@alexoji75
@alexoji75 3 жыл бұрын
@@SEN3Dcom Count me in for 2 of those extruders if they are available for Artillery X1!
@gsuresh2u
@gsuresh2u Жыл бұрын
Hi, good video on idex I already built one, now I want to upgrade to dual idex printer I want to use 4 extruders and 2 nozzles, I want to use 2 in 1 out hotend, is it possible?
@robertchase3129
@robertchase3129 2 жыл бұрын
Is the mother board version used at least a 4.2.2 or a 4.2.7 ? Because I would like to be able to use it with my Creality CR touch auto bed leveler on the primary extruder.
@daren9938
@daren9938 2 жыл бұрын
Hi just curious, is this suitable for the ender 3 v2? or is there another version?
@marinolionnet
@marinolionnet 2 жыл бұрын
Can we use the bltouch and the dual z motor on this kit
@demon_ghost_6662
@demon_ghost_6662 2 жыл бұрын
im consider the kit, but a few questions, the motherboard, how noizy is the motors? is it compare able to the ender 3 silence motherboard? and what version are the motherboard?
@duality4y
@duality4y 3 жыл бұрын
This is cool
@TechBuild
@TechBuild Жыл бұрын
Is there a way to make this work with Klipper?
@jeffmilkey
@jeffmilkey Жыл бұрын
Did you come out with a kit for Ender 5 Plus? Thanks
@renegadus5037
@renegadus5037 2 жыл бұрын
Is a purge block required when printing?
@1990bryghen
@1990bryghen Жыл бұрын
Will this work with upgraded extruder like the sprite?
@LG-kj5qq
@LG-kj5qq Жыл бұрын
Is there a kit or will this fit for the Creality CR10 S5? Thanks
@st0rr1e
@st0rr1e 3 ай бұрын
So could this go on an ender 3 v3 se? Might be a stupid question but I wanna know for sure haha
@richmeister4eva
@richmeister4eva Жыл бұрын
Could this in theory be used for the Ended 5 plus?
@Omaralbear
@Omaralbear 2 жыл бұрын
Will this work with the ender 3D pro?
@sergiomartins2692
@sergiomartins2692 2 жыл бұрын
And how is the configuration in the slicer?
@sammybrown6730
@sammybrown6730 2 жыл бұрын
Would this work with a voxlab aquila???
@luzz1901
@luzz1901 2 жыл бұрын
incredible work, i wish a had money to buy this
@Distanc3
@Distanc3 Жыл бұрын
I wish it didn’t cost more than a new Ender 3! It just the electronics cost less, I would love to print the parts to do this mood myself.
@tactikool4740
@tactikool4740 Жыл бұрын
Are there any plans for making a Klipper based firmware for this? I think it would be awesome.
@add56246
@add56246 8 ай бұрын
How do you slice the object in two colors?
@doktorfluuf1643
@doktorfluuf1643 Жыл бұрын
Is there a way to get cr touch to work?
@NerdyNeckbeard
@NerdyNeckbeard Жыл бұрын
Is this compatible with Auto bed Leveling?
@yonphys
@yonphys Жыл бұрын
is it possible to install the kit on ender 3 V2 Model?
@wolfboi8785
@wolfboi8785 3 жыл бұрын
Now if only you had one for my CR10s5 ! I might end up getting one of these and seeing if I can make it work on the Cr10s5 anyway lol
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
I like the way you're thinking 😀 Ender IDEX XL. I am working on the CR-10 version at the moment so hopefully it will be available soon 😇 Make sure you join my mailing list at EnderIDEX.com to find out as soon as it's release. However, I also like your idea of taking the existing kit and transferring it across, it would be a great custom project. The core frame is obviously very similar just larger. And you'd have to be confident with opening the motherboard box. But if you did I'd be delighted to help you along the way. 👍
@bartsalemink5729
@bartsalemink5729 3 жыл бұрын
I have a CR10S that I'm looking to modify into something fancy. I was planning on going DIY but truth be told I wouldn't be able to match this bit of kit. I do think a double sided Z axis propulsion is the better way to go because of the added weight. Luckily the CR10S has that covered. If you manage to come up with a CR10S version, it may very well be this years Christmas gift I instruct my wife to get me 🤣
@joshuamarks4131
@joshuamarks4131 2 жыл бұрын
Will the auto level work with this?
@mickyovts3872
@mickyovts3872 Жыл бұрын
Are these still available and valid ?? Could this be used on a mks robin nano board too ?? I have most of the stuff to do one except the expensive board and files....
@sergeantsapient
@sergeantsapient Жыл бұрын
Would this work on the ender 3 v2?
@adamflight1
@adamflight1 3 жыл бұрын
What an amazing tool. I've been looking at the JGmaker Artist D because I want the idex. But I also want the large build volume of the cr-10. Is there any way in the world you could also fit the same setup on the cr-10 version 3. I would buy that in a heartbeat especially if it is direct drive.
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam, Thank you for your kind words, it's great to hear you're exploring what's available and also what's possible in the world of IDEX printing 😁 So in principle I believe the kit would work on a CR-10 (or even an Ender Extender kit) as the basic printer parts and structure are the same. I believe the only changes needed would be: - a longer x-axis extrusion to give the 2nd carriage somewhere to park as well as enable the X2 belt pulley to be mounted - longer belts for this new longer x-axis - Longer cables for the 2nd hotend Obviously other snags or hiccups may come up, but this is all I expect it would take. I am working on a more specific kit for the CR-10 but this will take a little longer before it's available 😇 Also, in terms of direct drive. The new 2nd hotend is bowden based but it is possible to have hotend 1 as a direct drive as long as the stepper motor placement does not interfere with the X2 belt path.
@schoert09
@schoert09 2 жыл бұрын
I second this comment, I'd buy six in a heart beat
@CursedWarrior100
@CursedWarrior100 2 жыл бұрын
does it work on the v2?
@ulyssesbejarano1847
@ulyssesbejarano1847 Жыл бұрын
Also will it work on an Ender 3 V2
@Smiley-yz5bu
@Smiley-yz5bu 3 жыл бұрын
I like the product but could I use BL touch with this and is there any way to use this kit with a silent motherboard that I already hav on my ender 3 pro
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Great questions, yes you can use a BL Touch no problem. It fits to hotend 1 and works in mostly the same way as normal. The only difference is for duplicate and mirror mode prints you still need a manually levelled bed as 2 hotends touch the bed at 2 points at the same time. Sadly, the challenge with using your existing board is that it cannot run enough stepper motors. The Ender IDEX has 6 stepper motors (X1, X2, Y, Z, E1 & E2). A majority of board only run 4 or 5 steppers. This is why I supply the kit with an SKR Pro board (it's also an excellent board). However, if you did want the Ender IDEX to be silent you are still able to install silent stepper drivers too and get the same noise output as you'd get from any other silent board 😇
@ulyssesbejarano1847
@ulyssesbejarano1847 Жыл бұрын
Will it work with the wifi creality box?
@matthewmaniace817
@matthewmaniace817 3 ай бұрын
where can i purchase site will not load what is the pricing?
@gunbuster333SMSTI
@gunbuster333SMSTI 8 ай бұрын
I have an Ender three pro and I’ve been looking for something like this or printer like this and this is exactly what I’m looking for as an upgrade for my enter three pro however. What I want to do is print models and use the water dissolving filming as support material.. is that configurable within the slicer or whatever slicer that supports idex?
@quantisedspace7047
@quantisedspace7047 3 ай бұрын
Prusa slicer supports using dissolvable support filament I'm the way that you describe.
@TATTOOFREAK937
@TATTOOFREAK937 3 жыл бұрын
Wow i love it!! Went to your website to buy one.... you want $100 more for this than I paid for a whole new printer!!! Quite honestly for almost $300 I could tweak and geek on 2 printers and have one massive printer with two heads. Sorry mate. Great product but that price
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Darren, Thanks for the feedback, I think you make a fair point. Overall an IDEX printer is a complex piece of kit - a bit like going from a moped to a motorbike. You could buy 2 mopeds but it's still not a motorbike 😜 I realise the kit isn't for everyone but maybe one or two of my future products catch your eye too. And at the very least I hope I have sparked your imagination so you can come up with some innovative ideas too 😁
@donaldfoster5998
@donaldfoster5998 3 жыл бұрын
This is very intriguing, I really want an IDEX. I wonder if adding the dual z kit would make this my new go to. hmm
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words and interest Donald 😁 Dual Z is a great additional upgrade and certainly worth adding as well. The good news is that the typical dual Z kits (with a second Z stepper motor) are fully compatible with the Ender IDEX setup and many people have made that exact upgrade already 😮 Do let me know if I can provide any additional information or help 😇
@donaldfoster5998
@donaldfoster5998 3 жыл бұрын
@@SEN3Dcom Do you have U.S distribution? If so who?
@Commanderhurtz1
@Commanderhurtz1 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! I really like what I am seeing here. Would this work on the Voxelab Aquila or the TRONXY XY-2?
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Batarn, Thank you for your comment and kind words 😁 I have not tested either of these printers directly but after a quick google I would say yes, probably 😇 The frame and brackets all seem to be identical to the Ender 3 ones and so should work in the same way (some people have tested the kit of other clone machines without issues). The main thing I would consider is they both seem to have custom LCD screen. These may be possible to transfer over to another motherboard/firmware but I cannot be sure. Worst case you may have to switch to a classic LCD or something like a TFT35 to control the printer. Let me know if you're interested in getting stuck into this, I would be delighted to help with any minor hiccups that may crop up compared to the classic Ender 3 version of the kit. And also I now offer the Files Pack so you might want to print and make everything yourself 😮 Video here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e8h6mcmA0NHIfnU.html&ab_channel=SEN3D File pack here: enderidex.com/files-pack/
@ameliabuns4058
@ameliabuns4058 3 жыл бұрын
Huh this needs more attention
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for taking a look at my video, I really appreciate it 😁
@user-ic1xz1me6h
@user-ic1xz1me6h 2 жыл бұрын
不知道能不能用在ender3s1上?🤔
@rolfsteinmann4140
@rolfsteinmann4140 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice job, lg swiss 3d Rolf
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rolf, you're very kind. I'm glad you liked it 😁
@jeffrey-deitch
@jeffrey-deitch 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Excellent design & engineering. PLEASE tell me you have plans to make this kit for the Lulzbot TAZ 6?
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your kind feedback 😁 I am working on the next printers to bring the kit to so the more people request a printer the more likely it could be next. Your vote for the Lulzbot TAZ 6 has been registered 😉
@jeffrey-deitch
@jeffrey-deitch 3 жыл бұрын
@@SEN3Dcom I will then publish you video in a few TAZ forum and instruct them to comment here. There is a TON of interest in IDEX upgrades for the TAZ which is such a rock solid machine.
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffrey-deitch That's awesome. As silly as it sounds I am keen to hear what people want. I use my own research and guessed but if there is big demand for the TAZ who am I to stand in their way 😁😇
@Omaralbear
@Omaralbear 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a coupon code that I can use?
@quantisedspace7047
@quantisedspace7047 3 ай бұрын
Is this still a going thing? email is going unanswered and the site is v difficult to load.
@Nem_NC
@Nem_NC 2 жыл бұрын
this is so awesome and I would love to get one for myself but I need to know... I have ordered for my normal ender 3 a cr touch sensor do I need some type of additional modification to use it or software or it would still work?
@kodyaudette
@kodyaudette Жыл бұрын
The main kit comes with a whole new controller board that you swap out, so that board will have different firmware installed on it to control both extruders.
@ignassungaila5781
@ignassungaila5781 3 жыл бұрын
would this be compatible with a dual z kit, bl touch and would it be possible to have 2 microswiss dd hotends?
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Ignis, great question and put simply yes (almost 😮)! 😁 The typical dual Z kit with 2 stepper motors and a new mirror back plate should fit fine and many existing IDEX customers have made that upgrade (it's a good one to do). Yes, BL touch works, you install it on hotend 1 and prob the bed like usual. The kit files that come with the kit also has multiple pre-compiled BL touch versions of the firmware. However, when running a duplicate or mirror mode print you still need to manually level the bed. This is because 2 hotends touch the bed at 2 points at the same time. So the Z axis cannot compensate for 2 at the same time (this is true of any IDEX printer). But you can still use the BL touch sensor to help you identify the bed level and adjust it too! Finally, the micro-swiss direct drive hotend is not as easy. You can install a direct drive of your choice on hotend 1 as long as the motor for it is mounted over the front of the carriage. Those that mount it over the back like the MicroSwiss will hit the new X2 belt path. For hotend 2 it is more complex as this hotend needs to be possible to raise and lower independent of hotend 2 to get them perfectly level. It also needs the new mounting points for the higher X2 belt path. However, in the file pack at the moment is a beta file for the hotend 2 direct drive which has been received very well by the community so far. And it is equally possible to print your own direct drive solution for hotend 1 as well! In both cases the same form factor of the MicroSwiss hotend means that is can be mounted and used fine, it's just the direct drive carriage that is the issue. Do let me know if I can provide any more details, information or support 😁 And thank you for your interest and support 👍
@josephobregon4419
@josephobregon4419 3 жыл бұрын
Could this be used to print the water soluble filament as supports? Like 2nd hotend/extruder for that filament strictly for support?
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, that is a perfect use case for IDEX printing. Provided the dissolvable filament (PVA) you select is printable at ~240ºC or less then you should be fine. Also, materials like PLA and PETG do not adhere to each-other very well. So you could experiment with using one or the other as support material that should come away much easier. As you may know ABS also dissolves in acetone so using ABS as a support materials with another acetone resistant filament gives you another option. Finally, as dissolvable filament can be quite expensive you also have the option in most IDEX capable slicers to only print the interface layer in PVA. So your support towers would be PLA for example but the 2-3 layers that touch the finished part are in PVA and so dissolve away whilst also using a very small amount of the filament.
@Kieliah
@Kieliah 3 жыл бұрын
How's the noise on this kit? I'm very interested, but I have a silent motherboard on my current ender 3 and I'd like to keep it silent if possible. I'm not sure if the DRV8825 drivers will be noisier than the TMC2225 drivers that are on my current board.
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent question. The kit uses the SKR Pro V1.2 which is very easy to swap stepper drivers for. I have many customers that have done this without issue and I'd be happy to help if you did want to do this as a next mini project after setting the IDEX up. This is an excellent video showing what's involved in inserting TMCs in the SKR Pro board and I'd be happy to compile the firmware for you if you weren't comfortable doing it yourself: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/acBklKSr2uDZZGg.html&ab_channel=EdwardBraiman
@luiscaceres8121
@luiscaceres8121 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, do you ship to Peru?
@TizianoWIFI
@TizianoWIFI 2 жыл бұрын
ALSO FOR ender 3 v2?
@floris4451
@floris4451 3 жыл бұрын
Anet a8 plus would be a great machine for this. Let me know when you have a kit for that
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your vote on the "next IDEX kit" 😁 I few people have mentioned the Anet A8 so hopefully it won't take me too long to get to. I will of course announce as soon as I make it available 🎉
@rodgerhanson
@rodgerhanson 2 жыл бұрын
I currently have a BL-Touch attached, how does this affect the new IDEX??
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent question, in short it works great with a BL Touch! You attached the BL Touch to the hotend 1 like normal and use it in all the typical ways. The only drawback is that for a duplicate or mirror mode print you still need to manually level your bed. This is because 2 hotends touch the bed at 2 points at the same time. This is true of any IDEX printer, the Z axis cannot correct both hotends at once. Also, the SKR Pro motherboard I use in the kit has a port ready to accept the BL touch cable. Plus, I provide pre-compiled firmware for the BL Touch and an install guide so it couldn't be easier. 😁
@turbomax1209
@turbomax1209 3 жыл бұрын
Love what you've done but is there a cheaper version of this I'm on a budget and don't have a lot of money at the moment if there is please let me know.
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words. I am delighted you like the kit and it has inspired you. So there is a lot in the kit, SKR Pro board, complete wiring loom, 2 stepper motors, new carriage, hotend, X-axis extrusion, 10+ custom designed and produced parts. However, I also appreciate there are lots of different budgets for 3D printing enthusiasts. One of the best ways some people have bought the kit is to buy just the custom X-axis parts or let me know the parts they need and I can quote for that. You can then use existing stepper motors or other parts you might already have to complete the build. Obviously this will require a bit more hands on work for things like wiring up and installing it, but I'd still be happy to help. Drop me an email at kane@sen3d.com and let me know what you're thinking and I'll see what I can do to help you join team IDEX 😉
@rchokelal
@rchokelal 3 жыл бұрын
Can this work with an updated Ender 3 with a BTT TFT Display/control. I have the BTT SKR mini V2 mainboard as well.
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Raymond, I know we spoke directly but just so people don't think I ignored your questions 😇....Yes the kit absolutely can use the TFT35 (and other TFTs). The kit uses the SKR Pro board by BTT, so pretty much any screen that works with this board and Marlin should work great. The only ting to bear in mind is that some specialist IDEX features in marlin may not show up on graphical interfaces or may need some modifying to show up.
@progressivewholesomeness4937
@progressivewholesomeness4937 2 жыл бұрын
Can you add auto bed leveling using a bl touch?
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 2 жыл бұрын
You sure can. The sensor is installed on hotend 1 like normal. As long as you tube you X/Y offset well both hotends can then use the bed levelling mesh. If you did buy my kit I provide an installation guide and pre-compiled firmware too 🎉 The only case it is not useful is for duplicate or mirror mode prints. In this case 2 hotends touch the bed at 2 points at the same time so ABL will not be able to adjust for both at once (this is true of any IDEX setup). But you can still use the BL Touch data to accurately level your bed manually.
@LilHeavenlyTreasures
@LilHeavenlyTreasures 10 ай бұрын
What is the difference between the bar that comes with the kit and the bar that the ender 3 printer comes with?
@borisdamole
@borisdamole 5 ай бұрын
New extrusion is longer, so the left toolhead can reach the entire bed
@BringTheSteak
@BringTheSteak 3 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on using this to print nylons with dissolvable supports? Is it compatible with microswiss metal hotends? Will it withstand the temperature if the unit is contained? What about flexibles? Is the custom extruder compatible with direct drives that fit stock ender 3s?
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Great question. Obviously the stock hotend/bowden setup of the Ender 3 won't work for Nylons. But, temperatures is not an issue with dissolvable PVA filament though which is good! I have not tried the Micro Swiss myself but given its identical mounting points and form factor I cannot see why i would not be possible to swap it out. In the kit the second hotend is the same as the stock Ender 3 one and uses the conventional mounting holes. Currently the custom nature of the second carriage means it is not out of the box direct drive compatible. The reason is that the second hotend can be raised or lowered with a screw to keep it levelled with the first hotend. However, it would be possible for Extruder 1 to be setup with an off the shelf direct drive and Extruder 2 maintain the bowden. This way E1 could print in TPU with E2 printing an alternative material. The only thing to keep an eye on will be the weight on the X-axis given you're adding the motor on top of the additional carriage.
@shiikon2193
@shiikon2193 3 жыл бұрын
Will it come in other colors in the future? Not a big fan of the red unfortunately. Also, will new fan ducts such as the satsana work for the second extruder?
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Different colours could be possible, for now I'm just trying to keep up with demand 😅 Any fan ducts would need to be customised to work with the second extruder. The reason for this is the new second hotend is quite custom. It has the hotend on the left of the carriage (rather than right) for maximum build plate coverage. It also raises and lowers independently with a screw to enable it to be perfectly levelled with the first extruder. Because of this the whole mount is quite different and is unlikely to work with an off the shelf duct.
@douggjoseph
@douggjoseph 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive. 2 requests: a version of this for Ender-3 V2 that's been extended using the Ender Extender 400 XL kit, and a version of it for BIQU B1 printers!
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, you're very kind. There are a few Ender 3 V2 versions out in the wild now 😮 The only requirement is that you replace the Creality screen with a classic LCD or something like a TFT35 (the Creality screen does not play well with non-creality motherboards). It is also possible to use it with the Ender Extenders too! Depending on where you're based I can quote you for the longer X-axis extrusion, belts and cables to get it working. There is already an Ender 3V2 300XL out in the wild 😇 Drop me an email if you'd like to know more kane@sen3d.com Great suggestion on the BIQU B1 too! it's very similar to the ender 3 so I don't expect it would be too difficult mechanically. The challenge once again would probably be the screen etc. But I would be hopeful that as the BIQU makes that printer and also the SKR Pro that comes in the kit it may actually work really well....maybe this is an excuse for me to buy another printer for "testing" 😅😜
@douggjoseph
@douggjoseph 3 жыл бұрын
@@SEN3Dcom Yes, the BIQU B1 has an SKR 1.4 board and it uses the vaunted BTT TFT35 touchscreen. It would seem the kit for B1 would not need a new motherboard. The Ender Extender has no substantial changes other than dimensions and minor tweak to firmware to accommodate the larger dimensions.
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
@@douggjoseph super, the need for the SKR Pro is actually it's ability to drive 6 stepper motors (X1, X2, Y, Z, E1 and E2). Most standard board can only run 4 or 5 stepper motors. You are correct, I have quite a few existing customers on the 300xl and 400xl Ender Extender (just one that started out as an Ender 3 V2). A longer X-axis is needed to give X2 space to park off to the side and longer belts and cables for carriage 2 but otherwise it is a pretty simple change :)
@jamessawyer1331
@jamessawyer1331 3 жыл бұрын
Planning on upgrading my Ender 3 with the extender. Was wondering if this work?
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
I like the way you think. In principle it should work, the main additional requirements would be: longer X-axis extrusion (so E2 can part on the right side), longer belts, longer bowden tubes & longer cable extensions for the reach. It might also be a good idea to look into dual z steppers as the extra span is a lot of load on a single motor. But, this is also true for the Ender Extender kit even without IDEX 🙂
@obe22099
@obe22099 3 жыл бұрын
How does the stepper motor handle more weight applied by the second hotend?
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
The extruder motor gets moved off the axis which offsets the addition of a second X-axis stepper motor for X2. When it comes to the carriage for hotend 2, it's constructed primarily from ABS which makes it strong, heat resistant but also light. So overall, it works great. Like the stock Ender 3, it wouldn't be a bad thing to add a second Z-stepper but it is not required at all for great results 🙂
@1QKGLH
@1QKGLH 3 жыл бұрын
I'm tempted. I'd like to know if this kit is compatible with any larger Crealilty printers, like the CR series? Also, the whole reason for me wanting IDEX as opposed to two-in-one-out style is the horrendous amount of waste with the prime tower. But I see you have a prime tower. Is that just to catch the ooze that happens while an extruder is at rest? Can that be made smaller or eliminated with a wiper or similar?
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there, Great questions, broadly yes the kit should be applicable to most of the CR series. However, as you'll know there are so many models and variations I am still working on ways to make it "guaranteed" on as many as possible. In most cases the changes are mainly for the X-axis extrusion length and cable lengths. But for example some old CR-10s use a 12v power supply instead of 24v and I like to ensure I catch as many of these issues as possible 😇 I will soon be launching an "official CR-10" version of the kit but some of my amazing customers have already started building their own CR-10 or Ender Extender IDEX versions from the kit. So as long as you don't mind tinkering nothing should be insurmountable. Excellent question on prime towers. You are correct a 2 in 1 out hotend will need much more purging on a purge tower. This is not only to prime the nozzle but importantly to purge the other material/colour out. With an IDEX it's very much up to you, in many cases I would use a very tiny purge tower but this acts more like a skirt for each layer getting the flow going before it starts to print. maybe like 1 or 2 hollow rings before it can crack on with the printing. It is absolutely not a necessity to use a purge tower with an IDEX. It will depend a lot on things like your chosen holding temperature, material, retraction settings etc. In many cases you could use a purge bucket, maybe an ooze shield or for a large model just print from the "infill" first and let the initial couple of mm act as that "flow starter". The other big benefit of IDEX is that each nozzle can print a different material and not just colour, so you can try PETG with PLA supports (as the 2 don't stick very well). Or PVA dissolvable filament or even TPU & ABS for example. These king of mixes would be almost impossible via a single hotend or require enormous purge towers. Let me know if I can provide any further information or support 😁
@1QKGLH
@1QKGLH 3 жыл бұрын
@@SEN3Dcom Thank you for chatting with me on your website early Sunday morning.
@avaviel
@avaviel Жыл бұрын
Hey are you still around? The store is giving me SSL errors.
@RippledRealm
@RippledRealm 3 жыл бұрын
Will this work on the v2?
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Great question and short answer is yes! a fair few V2 users already have the IDEX kit installed (even some Ender 3 V2 Extenders too!). the only main differences are: >You need to replace the V2's screen, it doesn't play well with non-creality boards and loses tons of settings for IDEX specific features. Either a classic Ender 3 LCD or one of the BTT TFT touch screen work great. > The V2 does not have an XT60 power cable at the back so you need to screw the power cables directly into the power supply > The stock X-axis tensioner needs to be replaced as it's design blocks the mounting point for the X2's pulley arm If you're printing the kit yourself this is all quite easy to deal with and if you wish to buy a complete kit I have a V2 version that comes with a TFT35 and all the other chances needed to solve the above differences. Just check out the Alternative Kits section on the kit buy page here: 3d.plus/buy/ender-idex/#IDEX-alternative-kits 😁👍
@bartosslajos
@bartosslajos 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, It is a super project. Is it possible to use one, or two BLTouch to make the Z leveling? I would not upgrade my printer down with leveling feature.. I'm not sure that even the Marlin/SKR motherboard support it... Don't plan such a configuraton for Prusa? (The Prusa one nozzle Multicolor print not worked for us in the work+lot of material is wasted...) Edit: I just thinking and two BL Touch is not make sense, only one, because there is no dual Z azis/independent movement... That would a really-really awesome, but I guess it is definetly not supported by Marlin yet...
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lajos, Thank you so much for your kind feedback :) So yes, a BL touch absolutely is supported. Many of my customers already use the BL Touch and I have pre-compiled versions of the firmware for use with the kit. The only thing to think about is when you run a Duplicate or Mirror mode print, in this instance you will still need to manually level the bed as 2 hotends will be touching the bed at different points at the same time. You could still use the probe data from the BL Touch to help get a super accurate and level bed. I am working on and thinking about which printers to expand the kit to next. Prusa printers are high on the list as they are among the most popular...so watch this space! I also agree, there is a huge difference between a dual independent hotend IDEX system and a multi-colour, single nozzle system :)
@oliverrufa1064
@oliverrufa1064 9 ай бұрын
This thing looks amazing! Is it compatible with a bl/cr touch? I feel like having one could make things more reliable.
@quantisedspace7047
@quantisedspace7047 3 ай бұрын
The instructions refer to a Z limit switch. I don't have one of those because that function is provided by my CR Touch, also used for bed level mesh generation.
@felixgonzalez9776
@felixgonzalez9776 3 жыл бұрын
This should (probably) work on a Voxelab Aquila right? It's pretty similar
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Felix, Excellent question and on the face of it the Voxelab Aquila seems to have a very similar "Ender 3" style frame and components so I would expect it to work (obviously not a 100% guarantee). To be sure if the X-axis extrusion is 345mm long then it is identical to the Ender 3 and much more likely to work in exactly the same way. The only things that might be a tad different are the X-axis belt tensioner. To make space for the X2 pulley you may need to swap it for one that only attaches to the axis on one side. The screen may also need a bit of tinkering, does it work with stock Marlin? The kit uses a stick SKR Pro v1.2 so if the screen can work with that board then you should be fine. Otherwise it looks like it could be an excellent upgrade for sure! Maybe I'll have to get one soon to test it on 😉
@anthonyfong8165
@anthonyfong8165 3 жыл бұрын
How would you slice a 2 colour print? Can you use cura to slice it?
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, Cura is great for slicing prints for IDEX. I will be releasing a video very soon on slicing prints for an IDEX printer (2 colour, duplicate and mirror modes). Watch this space 😉
@smaqdaddy
@smaqdaddy 3 жыл бұрын
Is your board compatible with a dual Z motor machine? Also, is there a RRF version?
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the SKR Pro by Big Tree Tech which comes in the kit can run 2 Z-motors and actually has a socket built in for a second z motor so it would be quite to install :) I have not personally setup RepRap on the SKR Pro...yet 😉 But I am confident it is doable and hopefully without too many challenges. Videos like this one would be a great starting point: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qZxoiJlz3N6soH0.html&ab_channel=ChrisRiley Alternatively, the IDEX kit is also not tied to a specific board, you'd just need to have a board capable of running 6 steppers (X1, X2, Y, Z, E1 & E2). So something else like a Duet should be just as possible to use.
@Coffeeology
@Coffeeology 3 жыл бұрын
If we already have an SKR V2 board can we just skip that part of the kit for a discount?
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
You would need the SKR Pro board mainly as it can drive 6 stepper motors (X1, X2, Y, Z, E1 & E2). However I do sell just the X-axis for people that have the board or other setup they'd like to use it on. Drop me an email and I'd be happy to help: kane@sen3d.com
@estevanvaldez437
@estevanvaldez437 3 жыл бұрын
I have a microswiss direct drive can I use this setup with this kit ?
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
At the moment the MicroSwiss direct drive is not compatible. The reason is that the stepper for the MicroSwiss is mounted over the back of the carriage and this would be in the direct path of the belt for the new second carriage. I do hope to have a solution for this soon. However it should also be possible to use a direct drive that mounts the stepper motor on the front instead. I would also consider at this point adding a second z stepper too, to help with the extra weight on the axis. Not necessarily a requirement but a recommendation 🙂
@boritech9016
@boritech9016 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Flashforge Creator Pro and convert to IDEX system, but i have some problem with this electronic BTT SKR PRO because when X2 come to homing, the bump come to right and the belt slip. I used TMC 2208 but I dont know what happend.
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Bori, Thanks for your comment, sounds like you've got a great little project there. As you converted it to IDEX did you add another endstop switch on the far right of the X axis? Hotend 1 will home to the left and tap your original endstop. Hotend 2 will home to the right and tap the new X-Max endstop. Sorry if that's obvious but worth checking first.
@boritech9016
@boritech9016 3 жыл бұрын
@@SEN3Dcom Yes, all endstop ready, but now I see that the right motor have diferent step per mm than the left motor x. I belived that the x2 motor used the same x1 parameters.
@SEN3Dcom
@SEN3Dcom 3 жыл бұрын
@@boritech9016 Ah ok, so it's like X2 is reversed? Try Switching the cables to X1 and X2 and see if they go in the right/wrong direction. If X2 is reversed the easiest solution will be to flip the wires around. All you have to do is swap the 2 outside wires then swap the 2 inside wires. This will reverse the direction it turns.
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