For those wonder what the Hell a Cacophony is, back in original Theros Block Ashiok basically managed to create a Nightmare God but it got dunked on by Ephara
@Cyberium Жыл бұрын
An upstart put down by big mama.
@codelicious6590 Жыл бұрын
Cacophony is a word in the English language meaning a big disturbance or a loud clamor.
@andreusemanuel4868 Жыл бұрын
Rare ephara W
@kayaskye7970 Жыл бұрын
Of the four decks, I like the Anikthea deck most. Aside from that, I'm loving everyone's reactions to an $80 Pre-Con and I cant wait to see how everyone reacts to the Eldrazi Pre-Con that's roughly... $173.
@David_Stevens Жыл бұрын
I thought you were joking. Amazon has it at 185 now before taxes.
@kayaskye7970 Жыл бұрын
@@David_Stevens It's the most popular of the four decks, so I'm not surprised that it would be worth the most out of the four. However, it's going to be hysterical, if the Eldrazi deck follows the same pattern as the previous three revealed decks. Folks better hope there's a Jeweled Lotus or a Mana Crypt in that deck, otherwise it's probably just $180 of scrap.
@akumu2625 Жыл бұрын
@@kayaskye7970 welp, mostly not. Since mark himself saying that, _lack interaction, and bunch of colorless spell_ . Hence, might be bunch of useless big artifact creatures, and kozilek(the discard counter spell)...
@FlynnApollo Жыл бұрын
@@kayaskye7970 Im ready for the desolation twin and ulamogs crusher reprints lmao
@Shimatzu95 Жыл бұрын
Honestly i only hope for a new piece of colorless landramp from that deck.
@EnAttendantG0D0T Жыл бұрын
Battle for Bretegard is actually a sweet card in this deck because Thea’s zombies are all uniquely named tokens, which the last chapter cares about.
@Someone-lg6di Жыл бұрын
Use to run in myrcull till i realised it didnt copy the tokens
@_claymore Жыл бұрын
sounds sweet. first enchantress commander that makes me interested in the theme. also: Tomer you have to edit your card frame to read "Tomer Compleat" for the next videos! :D thx for the overview.
@WiLDRAGE777 Жыл бұрын
Boon of the Spiritrealm is very interesting, it makes Opalescence a much better finisher since even your low cost enchantments will be gigantic. This deck is very solid and my only gripe is that I already own most of the cards in it but I think I will be getting it anyway.
@demiurge2501 Жыл бұрын
It looks like dreadhorde invasion was added because the commander specifically makes zombie tokens
@jasonkorf7700 Жыл бұрын
Decks seems interesting, but the reprint value for an $80+ commander deck and the Mana base are a joke. As the command zone pointed out, they could have easily put in a fetchland, shockland, triome, or the battlebond lands, but nope. Wotc's and Hasbro's greed continue to wreck any positive momentum that new and enfranchised players might enjoy with the game.
@chimneyimp1486 Жыл бұрын
also gonna pass on these decks. it's a big f-u to the player base. the few new cards itself are okay as well some of the reprints (like mangara or Starfield of Nyx)
@Quicksilver1227 Жыл бұрын
Battlebond was possible but it is in the set so Wizards probably wants people to get the precons and if they need some of the good cards that work well with it then they need to get the singles or crack some packs. Such as doubling season for the enchantment deck or Eldrazi with Ulamog and kozelik
@ARC--5973 Жыл бұрын
Or heck, do what the Planeswalker deck did and give use the Filter lands instead of the temples. Those are at least worth a couple bucks a piece
@Someone-lg6di Жыл бұрын
Pass for me as well i own all the good reprints besides sunborn courcer and was honestly suprised the dryad was so expensive considering its cut from most decks. Double land drop is nice provided you actually have lands
@benjamingillispie5614 Жыл бұрын
I can't justify spending a 100$+ or more on ANY of these decks. I don't give a fuck, about the estimated value on these newer cards that are in the decks like Slivers or the eldrazi. All of the prices are going to eventually drop like a rock. Look at the cards from Universes Beyond Warhammer 40k. All of those decks were extremely pricey at launch and a little time afterward, and now look at them. extremely cheap to buy for the singles and around 65$ if you just want to buy the decks.
@bdellovibrioo5242 Жыл бұрын
I like how Nyxborn Behemoth is a subtle callback to Metalwork Colossus.
@TimboFromLimbo Жыл бұрын
Is that "the unluckiest planeswalker" on Goulish Impetus? Poor fella.
@CodenameJD Жыл бұрын
IMO some of the best cards for the list not here are Weaver of Harmony, Agent of Erebos, Sphere of Safety, Grim Guardian, and Sterling Grove, all of which are pretty cheap, and I'd guess likely contenders for Tomer's upgrade guide. After that I'd look at making the ramp package a little more synergistic, auras like Wild Growth and Utopia Sprawl. Finally I'd look for populate cards and other token shenanigans since they work so well with the commander. Growing Ranks and Song of the Worldsoul in particular will just get silly when turned into creature tokens, and are both quite cheap.
@rquer7913 Жыл бұрын
I had mine ordered since April. i just cancelled the order, once I saw that the deck will be better if I buy the cards independently. Such a bad deck design... I was hoping for at least Deadly Rollic + some shocklands for 80+ €. As it is now, this is a hard pass
@STuD0S Жыл бұрын
Same bro
@ichliebebrot3773 Жыл бұрын
$80?!? There’s no way I’m choosing a precon over a big, new videogame
@MrGeoghagan Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Nothing from this set is worth the price
@Yentz4 Жыл бұрын
proxy machine goes brrrrrrrr
@chasehatchett4756 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@demiurge2501 Жыл бұрын
Buy street fighter 6 it’s so worth it
@NightOfCrystals Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Even at $40 or $45 that feels like a max. I bought a couple LotR precons and those felt too expensive at $65.
@stephenbradford8524 Жыл бұрын
Narci looks sweet. I’ve been wanting to build an Aphemia deck ever since Theros Beyond Death. Narci seems like the way to do it.
@Ro7ard Жыл бұрын
Can somebody please cover how the Canadian shops are able to charge us between 150-180 dollars for these decks? 80 USD is just over $100 Canadian... We are getting shafted so hard and not a single person talks about it.
@vedbergsmagic3217 Жыл бұрын
Here in Sweden the decks cost 1100-1200 kr, which is like 100-110 us dollars :(
@SuperPlumber64 Жыл бұрын
I remeber LRR saying like what we pay more import duty fees on cardboard when we buy from the USA, hence why we usually pay more for sealed mtg products. Doesnt justify the 115$ cad price point my lgs is charging
@raidenadams8081 Жыл бұрын
NZ seems most reasonable atm from the sound of what's going on over there. 110nzd which is around 68usd
@Will_Morand Жыл бұрын
I’m definitely not buying the precon, but I’ll definitely be building around both new commanders from the deck.
@fnb2311 Жыл бұрын
LMAO! 80 U$D??? Time to get a good printer and start making some quality proxies.
@kevin_Masters Жыл бұрын
Man these decks are a joke. Even before dropping prices because of the reprints they aint worth it. Thet should have been €45 euro max
@mHysteresis Жыл бұрын
9:52 and goes around shroud, hexproof and ward when coming back
@unanon_userАй бұрын
in this day and age, you can actually get enduring enchantment for around $40. maybe even lower than that I'd say. considering that, it is absolutely wonderful. definitely worth it to slot in a few upgrades. now, LGS stores might have this in the '70s. That's how much mine charged me. wish I had done the research. oh well. no regrets I actually ended up using some of the cards from one enduring enchantment precon to upgrade virtue and valor
@Hiitsme717 Жыл бұрын
I refuse to let WOTC play me on this release. I canceled my pre-order for Slivers already and will likely do the same for Eldrazi tonight. I'll do what everyone is doing and buy the singles.
@drkillenger5564 Жыл бұрын
Ondu Spiritdancer is an auto-include for anyone playing Myrkul, Lord of Bones. Because of the way she's worded, even though her ability triggers "once per turn" if you sac/kill her with Myrkul out and make an enchantment token copy of her, you suddenly make infinite Spiritdancers
@swordshaver Жыл бұрын
battle at the helvault combos infinitely with invasion of tolvada :)
@the_names_rob Жыл бұрын
The tanuki can utilize its racoon pouch. A little known erata
@baragon023 Жыл бұрын
Of the precons so far, this one seems most synergistic. Price is a bit wonky though.
@salamanteri_ Жыл бұрын
One problem that I'm seeing is that because these decks are 80 bucks, the few new cards in these decks are also gonna be expensive, even though most of them are very niche and made for specific archetypes
@secretdev1559 Жыл бұрын
This commander is so sweet!
@francisserpa4465 Жыл бұрын
Cool deck. I'd be tempted to get it if it was actually a reasonable price
@Sawfty Жыл бұрын
Love these videos, really appreciate the breakdown. No interest in the decks at this price, but ya'll are doing great!
@jozefkeresturi2139 Жыл бұрын
Composer of spring is too pushed but I like the resto of the new cards
@trehenry413 Жыл бұрын
yeah...that card seems absolutely busted. Not having a once per turn limit is nice, but wow. With how easy it is to flood the board with enchantments, you can ramp out of control so quickly. At least it isn't an enchantment itself.
@joshuarichardson6585 Жыл бұрын
Starfield gets to be less of a liability when you factor in how many sac effects we have. Sac it to blank a kill spell or boardwipe, then bring it back with our commander
@Freddy_da_fox Жыл бұрын
Utopia sprawl and wild growth should have been in there from the get go
@jianhaogao7608 Жыл бұрын
20:03 don't forget the commander "reanimate" the enchantment from your graveyard
@johnskyjohn45 Жыл бұрын
Ondu spirit dancer has kind of slipped under the radar a bit here. I'll just drop this in- You put it in your token deck, you drop a parallel lives or something like it, then drop her later (before makes it even better though)... then you populate one of the tokens... after a certain point the maths gets silly if I'm right. That's the original card + the populated token + the doubles of the populate + one of those gets copied by the spirit dancer and that copy she made is also subject to all of the new copies of parallel lives you just made... if I'm right, that's 7 of them for the first time you do it (if I'm right... but I'd double check with a judge incase there's something I've missed here)
@dariocampanella7992 Жыл бұрын
You can only populate creature tokens tho(so you will no be able to populate paralell liver over and over). Is still pretty powerful. I will say this deck asks for some populate like the nesting dovehawk.
@Eliandhimself Жыл бұрын
Lots of cool cards for bombadil
@garettallen4963 Жыл бұрын
So... i could buy this or build one of tomers tuned budget decks..
@yellowbelt Жыл бұрын
The second commander seems more effective
@robertoso8796 Жыл бұрын
i like narci but i still have yet to find a commander that would make me want to use the pile of sagas sitting in my bulk. i do like the sac trigger but i can't see myself building around it when my enchantress decks are already very fun. i do actually like the deck but i own most of the things i like in it so i look forward to picking up some cheap reprints. my enchantress decks never use an enchantress as commander cause everybody expects the same super value stax/control garbage sythis and won't let me have shit but since the minute i saw an enchantress i knew i was going voltron. i'm all about shield of oversouls and blanchwood armor and even colossification with a return of the wildspeaker or greater good
@NightOfCrystals Жыл бұрын
Same. I use Queen Marchesa as my enchantress commander and it’s really cool. I played against a Sythis deck recently and it was boring… one drop enchantment tribal with a couple big payoffs, the player took these long durdly turns… better to have an impact.
@Someone-lg6di Жыл бұрын
Mine is estrid enchantments and its just mana acceleration, pillowfort, and draw
@robertoso8796 Жыл бұрын
yep i hate every sythis deck i've seen but i don't even run removal, just boardwipes. i'm fine not getting my engine going until past turn 6-7 when it matters but before people realize i'm the biggest threat.
@gemyniraptor8626 Жыл бұрын
While I have utter disdain for this Commander Masters release and how WotC is back to their old tricks again, but this deck does look sweet. I make get the new cards and use them to rebuild my Myrrkuul deck. But not for 80 bucks. Screw you Wizards, you drunk
@Duskraven377 Жыл бұрын
Does it have a full set of duals and at least one fetchland in it? No? Then it’s not worth $80. (“Ignoring the lands” hell no)
@vlmoua Жыл бұрын
If you have a sythis deck, you have 80% of this deck. And you can build that deck for under $40-50.
@brytonjorgensen8457 Жыл бұрын
......well dang, I guess my Tatsunari might be getting delayed even more now haha
@okgut2033 Жыл бұрын
To start an enchantress deck this might be ok but if you allready have one those lack power, yes reprints are good, outside of lands, but then you look at the price of the precon and yeah no way i gonna give you money for this. Esp cause it reminds me of all the greedy actions wizzards allready did and this one adds to that pile.
@elijahwalker323 Жыл бұрын
I'm so confused about this set, you think the premium priced commander masters commander precons would have at least been as valuable as the the cost. generally I feel like the $40 dollar precons have a relativily good value, like you couldn't build the deck for less than that. But this is $80 dollars and excluding the 10 new cards you could build it for like less than 40. this set that was an easy slam dunk for wizards really seems like they are just trying to see how much the can get for the least effort. Overall this seems like the most synergistic deck of the 3 revealed though.
@diskuslars752711 ай бұрын
I otimized this Deck to be Competitive...for Nearly 200€. Really...80€ and the Manabase is a pure Joke even some Sage or Enchantments. I have to rework half of the Manabase with Fetch and Shocklands and a Triome ,Replacing some Enchantments or switching Calix through "Calix,Guided by Fate" and so on. Overall 23 Cards have been Replaced. For a Premium Product....
@ArmageddonAsh Жыл бұрын
The problem with ALL of these pre-cons isnt the decks, its the price. None of them are worth $80-140 that some places are selling them for. Getting these decks for $50-60 i feel is the "good" spot. of course the cheaper the better. The problem is, they aren't going to be going for those sort of prices. $60-80 if you REALLY want it. $80+ and you're crazy. Once you hit $80+ the re-print value isnt enough, the land bases are all pretty damn bad and for slivers for example could be rather expensive to upgrade and get to an actual playable state. Though land bases in Pre-cons are normally bad to terrible.
@gabrielbost8281 Жыл бұрын
The snarls a good in a 3 coloured deck because it requires you to have 1 of 2 of your 3 colours in basic lands and if you they come in untapped I will be taking out the bounce lands as without any land ramp the earliest you can use them is 3 compared to snarls the earliest you can use them is turn 1
@hydra66 Жыл бұрын
For the cost, the manabase is meh
@grizzerotwofour7858 Жыл бұрын
Premium products like this demand premium pricing🤮
@leyasu888 Жыл бұрын
For the ridiculous price of the pre-con the value proposition for this pre-con is horrendous......
@turniptoasty8015 Жыл бұрын
Pogger
@benadams2565 Жыл бұрын
Aaaand another 80$ deck that really should have been 20$ honestly it's astounding what wizards will push on us
@eulefranz944 Жыл бұрын
Just buy 2 older precons instead. 80 is way way way too much
@flashfan2 Жыл бұрын
80 dollars..... i was thinking of buying until i heard that
@giopota88 Жыл бұрын
Tomer you're so handsome.
@iAMyourSHADOW02 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t wipe my ass with Battle at the Helvault
@adamwarehime6444 Жыл бұрын
If this was way cheaper I would be buying it just for the reprints I feel the new cards are just really bad
@codelicious6590 Жыл бұрын
Femeref Enchantress plays extremely well with this commander. Snarls and Temples???! Gross
@CyberNewType Жыл бұрын
The Price of these precons are basically WotC way of telling us they think Commander players are suckers who will buy anything. These are NO WHERE NEAR the value and quality of the 40k precons. All of the new cards from the precons should have regular, ext art, or etched versions in the Set and Collector boosters. So I’ll wait till those get cracked and just pick out what I need.
@RASK1904 Жыл бұрын
Thanx for not doing 1 hour + video. I ain't got time for that.
@psychozen7169 Жыл бұрын
These deck contain so much bulk. So far only 2 cards are going to be worth anything. I pre ordered these decks never ever again. The eldrazi deck going to need to have 300$ the price of all the cards in these decks are already dropping like rocks
@arsenicwafers7536 Жыл бұрын
Honestly… I just feel like Alela does it better. I guess Anikthea has access to the green Token generators like Parallel lives, and Doubling season… They both have access to Anointed procession, and Glory Dominus. But having to cast the commander, mill the cards, and exile the cards is a steep cost. As opposed to just playing the commander and playing 0 casting cost artifacts and CMC 1 enchantments for creatures that automatically have flying and become a 2/1
@Aphidae Жыл бұрын
These are completely different decks, Alela is an esper token spam artifact deck that you can run as a copium enchantress deck, and Anikthea is an enchantment self-mill reanimation deck. They play completely differently and have significantly different game plans. I genuinely don’t get your comparison besides the fact they both have the word enchantment on them.
@arsenicwafers7536 Жыл бұрын
@@Aphidae I'm pointing out how terrible the card is. Especially for $85 price tag for the deck. She isn't special, she's extremely slow. There are just other commanders that have this theme and that do it better. Especially since she doesn't even have the mechanic built into her to mill cards. How are you going to make a deck that relies on the GY, and not even give the commander a mill ability? That's absolutely terrible. I'm comparing her to Alela because Alela isn't even enchantress, but she does it better than this card. How are they going to make an esper fairy better than an actual enchantress? That's the comparison. If you're going to play enchantments, might as well play Alela, Sythis, or literally anything else.
@Someone-lg6di Жыл бұрын
Best comparison is either estrid due to ult or a anchantment version of myrkull
@Aphidae Жыл бұрын
@@arsenicwafers7536 I’ve played Alela and I seriously doubt that the decks would look or play at all comparable, btw Meren, who has been one of the premier graveyard decks since her debut in 2015, doesn’t have a mill ability, mtg players nowadays are so spoiled by having every card being the setup and the payoff. She reanimates an enchantment on etb and on attack that’s an insane amount of value you can generate, and mana you can cheat. The only commander whose archetype is even remotely comparable is Ghen, who you didn’t even bring up. Also the card isn’t $85 the precon is, you can get a copy of Anikthea for $5 on card kingdom right now and I sincerely doubt that price will go anywhere but down since she’s a pretty specific card.
@BeWrong666 Жыл бұрын
What a bull. $80 but has a a bad land build and only 10 new cards?
@akumu2625 Жыл бұрын
Okie, I will just, buy host of mordor instead, then buy 3-5 singles from this greed sht sets.
@xXtheONEandONLYXx Жыл бұрын
You are not getting my money, WotC. Nope.
@8bitgoonies Жыл бұрын
Whhhooaaaa, first off Tomer, you hate enchantress! Second, what a rip off for this asking price… buy singles people
@isaabd1334 Жыл бұрын
The narsi art looks so wack
@xeper9458 Жыл бұрын
😂 it's funny cause it's true. Woke culture mental illness in full effect 😂 it's a cool, good card though
@jamesnorman1772 Жыл бұрын
@@xeper9458what’s wrong with with the art
@xeper9458 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesnorman1772 The art is amazing i'm just tired of the tokenism. First it was blackface Aragorn, Eowyn, and Theoden in the Lotr set, and now both the face commanders in this deck are of color. It's pandering, and it's insulting to do this. By focusing on race it just marginalizes them even more.