Hot take: Generic finishers, such as Accesscode and Borrelsword, were massive mistakes. They removed the option for decks to be balanced around not having large monsters.

Link Monsters don't care about the Link mechanic. Pretty much all the meta link Monsters (Halq, Access, Appolouse, Knightmares, Borrels, etc) don't care if they are co-linked or if a Monster points them/is pointed from them. Even a lot of Link decks like Salad didn't really care so long as they still had a zone free to extend their combos.

my personal take is that boss monsters should either have effects that only benefit the archtype if they have fully generic maerials or archtype especific materials if they are going to have a generic good effect

When Floowandereeze plays on your turn everybody loses their minds, but when Tear does it people also lose their minds.

My other issue with the knightmares is how they killed generic xyz monsters for the most part. Since its always easier to get any two guys than any two level 4s or whatever (even if your entire deck is the same level because links can use any extra deck monster as well), archetypes unless specifically built to make in archetype xyz monsters are always designed with a variety of levels on them, unlike in the past when archetypes would often have lined up levels to suit a theme. This means everyone has the exact same pool of utility cards rather than your deck's predominant level having different options. The rank 4 toolbox was the most iconic with stuff like castel and tornado dragon, but rank 3s had break sword and dire wolf as examples, rank 2s had the paleos. The only exception I can think of is combo decks that use level 8s such as blue eyes and ddd running some galaxy eyes cards but that doesnt really count.

Also Joseph's argument for this being a healthy format boiled down is basically "It's a fun format if you're playing the best deck" which, regardless of whether or not you agree with him, is hilarious.

2:40 “Until 2010 there is no reason to play YGO over magic the gathering” my brother in Christ you helped pioneer reaper format.

Generic payoffs should never have been a thing. Mixing archetypes with out of archetype cards is interesting and encourages creativity, but when the top 500 decks are all working towards the same end result, they can barely be considered different archetypes anymore, they're just different flavours of the-same-boss turbo

Hot take: I feel like komami over did it with the power creep of omni negates especially synchros like we went from a level 12 that requires 1 Tuner Synchro Monster + 2 or more non-Tuner Synchro Monsters to a generic level 4 synchro that can easily be run over and sends itself to GY to activate its omni negate to a generic level 8 that just requires a link monster in the GY to generic level 10.

Jesus christ, Stevie, Dire and the third editor I don't know by that thumbnail are actually carrying the community, backproblems and all

Hot take: the community's overall hate of omni-negates and floodgates, paired with Konami needing to print stronger and stronger cards to sell product due to no set rotation will inevitably lead to a ceiling of speed which I think Ishizu/Tear may be an indicator we are starting to reach. Being able to start setting up your board on your opponent's first turn when going second is probably the last major barrier to the maximum speed of the game, which will probably be setting up an endboard before your first turn when going second. Games can be effectively decided in 1-2 turns already and with the design space Ishizu/Tear seems to have opened up it's only a matter of time before Konami prints an archetype that effectively wins the game turn 1 regardless of going 1st or 2nd, and only an absolutely nuclear banlist or completely unreasonable floodgates activatable turn 1 will be enough to stop that

I agree with the last hot take, we need new Gravekeeper's support. Give us a pendulum scale that lets us summon from grave ignoring Necrovalley's effect and an in archetype DNA Surgery but with the name "Gravekeeper's" instead of a typing.

Isn't there a whole GX anime arc where the villain's main goal is to create super poly by killing people? Ofc the card is aweful when it is meta, it is literally evil.

Hot Take: Drytrons are okay as a ritual engine. The Herald ritual monsters are the problem with them. The Heralds of Perfection and Ultimateness were balanced around ritual cards requiring using levels as tribute and were given low attack because of their omni-negates. I want to make a Drytron deck that does something else, but everyone is just "omni-negate turbo". Can we just ban all non-trap omni-negates?

I think the player going second should start with 6 in hand and not draw for first turn, just so that going first isn't as overpoweringly strong

A yes the deck that sets up like 10 interactions and is able to rebuild its board on both players turns is fine because it doesn't floodgate you. Throw in a comment about how every format pre pote was just turbo floodgate meta and not just some decks teching rivalry or mine(which couldve just been banned to fix the otherwise very healthy format) and you got the perfect MBT contrarian opinion. Don't act like any rogue deck that isnt literally dshifter turbo with an archetype attached has any amount of game vs tear. You pray to draw shifter or floodgates while the tear player bricks or you lose.

honestly ya gotta respect MBT taking “ackshually tier zero format good?” and making it his entire personality these last few weeks. it’s commitment to a bit that I deeply respect.

Hot take: Neos Alius was a fine card that didn’t have any problems at all.

This format reminds me of how zoo format actually existed. The zoo mirror could have a ton of interaction, but in reality, it was an endless cascade of skilless blowouts like d barrier or maxx c

Not sure if you've done one but would be a fun video to see the cheapest cards that provide the best strength compared to their price tag.

I used to collect the TCG, but never got into the actual competitive scene. I was into DL casually for a long time and got more into the lore & history behind Yugioh much more after the release of Master Duel. I am still far from up to date on the scene and everything that has gone down, but as cheesy as this may sound I love learning the history through your sarcastic commentary & these twitter trends. They especially help on rough days 👍👍

Hot take that we excessively clown konami every time they make a garbage 'fair' archetype because w tear they prove they can make a good archetype and choose to make so many archetypes bad.

They should make a Pendulum Crystal Beasts retrain bc they were literally monsters that are also continuous spells before it was cool. Apparently they got pendulum support but those aren't actually Crystal Beast names or have the CB effect so putting them in the pendulum zones plugs up S/T zones that you then can't put actual Crystal Beasts in. Make them be able to pend summon CBs from the S/T zone. Let them be destroyed on the field, send themselves to the backrow, and when they do you can just put them into the pendulum zones to set scales if you want. Extra deck pendulum monsters can do it, why not the monsters that already turned into continuous spells three generations earlier.

Post credits MBT is better than post credits MCU

Joseph continuing to prove himself a magic player more and more with every take

Link Monsters should have non-generic materials. And by that I mean archetype Links should require ONLY their archetypes to summon. That way people would actually had to think about main deck construction a bit more than just "I will jam as many Link monsters that go +1 as possible" into their extra for years. Meanwhile the archetypes those cards were meant to help still get to use them at full force. Also agree that Super Poly should have never come off the banlist. How on earth did anyone think it was ok to bring that back as the game got more powerful...it just gets MORE impactful as time goes on.

For the Knightmares I think that's kind of an extension of Konami has gone too far with generic cards being good.

Yugioh needs a great casual format like Magic has Commander. Something where 90% of the tier B-D stuff can actually breath a bit. Edit: Wow, I didn't think it was possible to misunderstand what I said that badly, but that's on me forgetting where I am. Gold in MD is actually a pretty good example of what I mean, not singleton or multiplayer, I was comparing it to Commander in the sense that unless you establish that you're playing cEDH, there's basically an agreement that while you're decks can be good at what they do, no one is really trying to be hyper competitive. I think less generic meta staples would help a lot in this regard personally.

Tears are absolutely not fine, and are only somewhat tolerable in the mirror match when, if you lose the diceroll/coinflip, your opponent playing the game lets you get YOUR combo going as well.

It's ok buddy. You can handle our horrible takes for one video if we can handle yours every day. :^)

I really liked the knightmares by themselves. Good lore, interesting mechanics, doesn't lock your opponents out every single facade of the game. Unfortunately, them being so generic allows for them to be extremely versatile. Honestly, I feel like reprinting the Knightmares (At least the banned ones) to make it so that they're archetype locked, and giving them some more main deck monsters to use would be a lot of fun (The World Legacy Lore is well made enough to where it should be possible to add in additional cards to the archetype). As long as Gumblar is still banned, it probably wouldn't be too bad. I don't know if it would be viable, but I think it'd be fun to play pure Knightmare/Knightmare + World Legacy. Note: Goblin and Mermaid 100% need their effects adjusted either way if they were reprinted tbh (Ex: Goblin is limited to an extra summon for Knightmare/Fiend Monsters, and Mermaid is limited to non-link monsters if more Knightmares were made). The generic support that they provide is just amazing for anything that could use it.

I do really wonder what Yugioh would look like in a world where the game focused more on the mind game aspect of face down cards rather that pumping out infinite special summons. I feel like the game created an intensely unique and interesting mechanic that truly separates it from all other card games and then just ignored it completely. Seems like wasted potential.

Shout out to Dire, if she can hear this from her prison cell where she's chained up next to a coffee pot and a computer. That much editing... You deserve a nice vacation.

Pot of Greed should go to 3 for 1 format. Just for shits and giggles.

trap cards should always have the strongest effects, like solemn judgement and torrential tribute. They are the slowest type of card, which means they should always have big payoffs. Also, you can rarely actually close a game with trap cards, most decks will still need monsters to attack with. Instead, monsters have the same effects as trap cards at no real cost(stardust dragon at least had to tribute itself to negate destruction). I think this is apart of the personality of the game moving away from the duelist and to the monster. It's less "look at this cool duelist, he has all these trap cards" like in the Duel Monsters show, people think a lot more about the archetypes of cards than the people who use them

5:00 I could see Links still fitting in if they correctly balanced ED monsters around their actual summoning mechanics, but this is Konami we're talking about.

Lmao, "Neither of the decks will lock you out of the game" Tear can easily shit out a Winda

5:53 Dude I felt exactly the same the moment I saw that Cyber End Dragon art like that, and I don't even play Cydras.

On MD I frequently play a Kozmo-Dogmatica toolbox deck. It is absolutely not summoning from the extra deck normally. Knighrmares Phoenix and Unicorn ARE STILL IN THE EXTRA AND GET USED. That is all.

My hot take is that Gemini monsters could be playable, you either give them overpowered effects so the cost of 2 normal summons is justified, or you have a mechanic where they have one effect on first summon and another effect on second. I know just saying "give op effect" is kinda a cop out, but when some things have really good effects on summon, I feel it really balances a more high risk high reward play.

My take is the same as the Knightmare one, but for Apollousa (and probably other stuff like Saryuja). Apo doesn't even need you to commit to a certain type of deck... like, by the past we had Nat Beast but it only works with both EARTH materials so it's not playable LITERALLY EVERYWHERE. Get any monsters together, turn them into 2 to 4 non-once per turn bonus monster negates, yay. Omni negation should have remained on trap cards, or on specific boss monsters that reward you for playing specific types, attributes, archetypes or mechanics.

"Hot" take: I really like Jospeh but this format is cancer for anyone not wanting to play tear for one of the multiple valid reasons. Those being subjective ofc, but here are some I heard and partially share: too expensive, uninteresting artwork, uninteresting playstile, exhausting and frankly boring games to play and watch, often hitting time limit, supporting another level of powercreep, raising the barrier of entry, repetitiveness, playing on the opponents turn, invalidating other strategies like Dark World...

Here's a take, whether it's hot or otherwise: Archetypes should be less generic. Problematic cards that belong to archetypes now (such as Toadally Awesome) should be banned, and later down the road be retrained to only serve the archetype in question. In return for archetypes being less generic, better generic support should be printed as well. It is a waste of both material and money to constantly print cards for the sole purpose of being essentially pack filler (I do not endorse the end of "gimmicky lower power cards", per say, but cards that are simply inapplicable in any sense should cease being printed)

Not really a hot take, but Link monsters are not really caring about the fact they are links. Any effect that summons a monster on a link should use the zones they point to, in fact, the arrows need to be used more in general. And link with a negate effect should tribute a monster they point to. Summon conditions should be stricter as well, requiring a monster of the same type or archetype to summon. If links were harder to splash in every deck and weren't used as generic monsters and actually leaned into their unique mechanics, the game would be SOO much better.

Should tell you how much of a mistake the knightmares were that I was unironically playing Phoenix in Despia for a bit because it meant that I didn’t auto-lose to Mine or Anti-Spell, particularly in game 1. Also, disagree wholeheartedly with IshTear being a good thing. I think 3-ish deck formats are optimal provided no more than 1 are floodgate spam. But the reason I really dislike IshTear is because it bends far too many rules, to the point that any deck that wants to compete has to either bend as many rules or be built specifically to counter IshTear. Konami is going to want to keep making money, and the only ways I see them being able to do that is to either ban IshTear into submission or continue to make cards that bend more and more rules until the game eventually devolves into both of you just chucking cards at each other essentially at random because any semblance of order was overwritten by power creep. In short, IshTear is a deck that has pushed the rules to their limits, and needs to be removed for the good of the game, even if that means bidding farewell to what some consider to be a great format.

People sucking off TOSS format really forgot how bad it was having any 2 monsters left on the field turn into a Mermaid to give you full Orcust combo. Sorta like how any 2 monsters used to give us Verte. Or the Orcust line that went into Rusty to Azathot you. Or Thunder Dragon ending on Colossus, hand looping you with Levianeer, and using the Guard Dragons to spit out Hot Red Dragon Archfiend Abyss and a 3-4 mat Appo. Or Skystriker looping Pot of Greed half a dozen times over the course of a game. Or banishing your single Gazelle of Desires and crying on the inside.

Please make a sequel called No Longer Enduring Your Yugioh Opinions featuring a flamethrower and whatever hole these people live in

When it comes to hot takes and how to "fix" yugioh it just comes down to personal preferences backed up with personal experiences. I can see why some people like the modern combo centric play style of the modern game but I personally yearn for a time when games (typically anyway) went on for longer than four turns- a dance of resource management as both players advanced towards their gameplan. Nowadays it can feel like Im just hoping I draw whatever board breaker my deck happens to be running so I don't get OTK'd. Even so I do recognize that the time I wish to be back at again never existed, at least not exactly as I remember it. But even knowing that my nostalgia is blinding me a bit I do wish we could do something about all these god damn mermaids.

Hot take from an MTG player with an interest in YGO: Archetypes should be a subtype (like toon), rather than referring to parts of a card's name. This would avoid all the translation issues and let Konami make names like SPYGAL without screwing over the cards. Example: [Monster/Effect/Aqua/Frog]

Hot take : all locals should allow you to play with proxies, but if you do,you get a less good prize if you top. I wanna play kashtira when it gets good but finrir is already $70 a copy and the deck isn't relevant yet. I'm not trying to pay $600 for a deck that I'm not taking to a regional or ycs.

I think it'd be crazy interesting to see how much the tcg would change with 5 or 10 cards in the ED.

I’ve heard a few people (mostly Cjelex) saying that Accesscode and Borrelsword are problems because they facilitate easy OTKs, and while I do think that Accesscode is probably ban worthy, I think Borrelsword is fine. Borrelsword actually requires resource investment to make, and needs some set up to actually OTK. Accesscode is insanely easy to make, and unless you specifically have removal or targeted effect negation, will wipe your entire board and smack you for 5300 damage. It probably should go if Konami ever decides to slow down the pace of the game.

I cannot believe the "hot takes" on Reddit whenever banned cards come up saying stuff like "pot of greed honestly isn't even that good and could go to 1"

As a labrynth player, I've only ever stooped to playing 1 floodgate, ever: Non fusion area. I need some cope to help me with the ishizu tear players at my locals, but I still feel bad about resorting to floodgates

To put down one that I had put in the thread: Blaster, Redox, and Tidal could all come back to 1 and fucking nothing would change.

This is my conspiracy theory... Konami is creating all these powerful cards to balance their entire library overall. In a near future, we will see even more banned cards coming back because Konami will conclude that in order to balance the game the only solution is to make all decks powerful enough.

the reduced extra deck size could make ygo more diverse or just make stronger deck more stronger cuz the weaker deck won't have any chance to cram universal engine as answer to stronger deck

My hot take: Anime cards should've always been printed as-is. Yes many of them are incredibly busted or even flat out don't make sense. We have a banlist for broken cards and cards with nonsensical rulings.

That Knightmare Phoenix take is so UNBELIEVABLY correct. It was actually cathartic.

Control decks are harder than Combo decks due to needing much more knowledge of both your opponent's deck and the gamestate

konami should errata cards to work FOR THEIR OWN ARCHETYPE union carrier with unions halq with crystrons and verte with predap so annoying a sad to see fun or rogue players lose one of their best cards to meta abuse. It's like when Aatrox mains in SOLO que had to endure their champ getting 8 nerfs because of PRO PLAY.

Dire casually roasting herself is the funniest shit ever

Desert locust is still pretty accessible via hop earred squadron when I play Generaiders lol. I then go into Fleur.

Dire's take made me think I wonder what the game would be like if every single card was semi'd or full on limited

one simple fix that I would find massively help with reading cards. is using the rush methods for levels its easier to read a number with out making mistakes than a list of symbols. where once it get to l7+ its more memory that reduces mistakes not reading cards

I don't know if it's a hot take but I think pendulums aren't as bad as people think and the leash can be loosened a little bit ( at least let them out the extra monster zone without needing to ask daddy link if they can)

I wish they kept links as "support tools to older decks" with a few link focused decks. The knightmare package and accescode talker really arent fun. Acces really should have been cyberse only.

Hot Take (maybe warm take, but whatever): Erratas are bad and make the game harder for new people to come in. Yu-Gi-Oh! has a history of making dumb broken cards that should be put on the Forbidden List and never taken off. By allowing erratas, this means there are now 2 different versions of the same card with a completely different description, making it harder whenever said cards are dropped to be sure about it's effect. If you make a dumb effect because you're not thinking of how this will affect the game quite literally the moment after it drops, then own up to it and acknowledge that you fucked up. Don't make 7 versions of the exact same card because you can't keep stepping on rakes.

Hot take: ocg and tcg should merge and play the same ban list

I missed this. So here's my Hot Take; Dragon Rulers can come back to 1 each and be fine. Probably 3 each. Hell give them a Structure Deck too

I have used the synchro locust before. Least til the tear came out then I began using it much less

Also I noticed one huge problem that bothers me extremely which is to many generic extra deck monsters that aren't archtype specific which makes everyone have the same extra decks no individuality ya know it gets tire some

I love fusion decks so I will never play super poly at any less than the maximum legal number of copies in any deck I play

Hot takes : make yugioh deck building lock you to only have max 2 archetype. seriously, barrone, verte, halq, these cards have an archetype. so why does striker can play halq into selene or any deck can play verte to dpe. lock so that you can only at max play 2 archetype in the same deck, like lets say you play tearlament danger, now you cant put accesscode talker, or knightmare.

Desert locust is easily done with melffy. They have a one card combo that goes into an immune satellite warrior with up to 3 pops.

I pogged at the Extra Deck size hot take came during the stream and here i am doing it again. Never would've thought you'd also be on that wave length as well

I will leave mine here: Colossus should be unbanned in the TCG not only because of the fact that he had been terribly powercrepd but because hesonly a degenerate card in the complete board of a combo deck with 3+ negates. Just ban cupid pitch instead wich is the card that made colossus splashable in any combo deck. Thunder dragons would still not be viable with him, the archetype needs at least two new support cards to be competitively viable.

My takes sorted on how (un)reasonable they are 1) Errata should only fix wording. If they want a similar but weaker, they should just print it, it's not like there's a small number of legal cards. That way, original card keeps being playable in traditional format and returns 90% of the time after power creep. 2) Big tournament's top 8 should be played on a simulator. Yugioh has a potential to be a spectator sport as well, but who (among new players or non players) in a right mind would watch an event where they can't clearly see the cards being played, can't read what they do, and has to endure 10 minutes of shuffling (I would rather watch Neymar rolling on a ground than shuffling) 3) Gumblar wouldn't be good this format or any of the last couple of formats 4) Ban lists should be much more liberal. What's the big deal if they release too powerful card once in a while. It's much more annoying to watch card being banned 10 years longer than it should be. More than half the list is completely unnecessary.

I vibe with Red Reboot @ 2. I was sad that the card comes back! But ar th same time I understand the Knoghtmares bit. Also: Having a tier 0 deck is very expensive contra a varied list of decks being played @ tournaments

This whole thread was "We have a very apparent problem with cards being both too generic or too oppressive lets fix that in a way that doesn't address either issue and just makes the game worse" Just ban the generic ED monsters that are too splashable like Accesscode and co, don't reduce the ED size just so like 20 rogue decks instantly die because they cannot fit their combo anymore. Limit everything to 2? Just have better banlists instead. The reason konami doesn't just ban all the cards we widely consider problematic isn't that they don't want to use the banlist for everything or are desperately looking for an alternate way to screw their game, no they just don't consider them a problem. They printed TCBOO in 2018.

Hot take: This game is carried hard by the love of its players and the community including content creators. With how bad the monetization is and compromises on gameplay balance and card design to push chase cards and through banning and a less than ideal reprint policy (although better than MTG), among other things, it's really not being kept alive through the goodwill of its devs and publisher.

We need an archetype of mecha dragon waifus. People bitch that Yugioh now is only mechas, dragons and waifus, and there's even cards that are combinations of those, but we have yet to get one that's all 3 at the same time, Konami needs to rectify this.

Even though I think the game was peak from 2010-2017, some pre 2010 formats are a blast

His poster is falling down behind him

Joseph being on his "the tear 0 format is fine take" is still wild to me like yeah, Tear isnt explicitly saying "you can't play the game" but it is implicitly saying it cos whilst their boards are "mid" those boards can literally be made every single turn off of 1 Tear mill and when you've got cards like Cryme, Sulliek and even Rulkallos that proc all of your Tears AND are interruptions... not to mention you've got Keldo, Mudora and the Bystials to ensure that the GY is never getting touched

I heard bad opinions and came a running: The fact that Goat Format majorly innovated itself during the COVID pandemic because of a massive influx of new players and what was before almost indisputable truth, that Goat Control was the best deck, became summarily proven to be wrong says a lot about how insular the community was and that it was more interested in maintaining status quo than anything else.

i spent way too long trying to figure out why dire put up "payed it or smore"

The next step for control/stall to one-up Knightmares is more Waboku-likes so we can get turbo-fog. You can't remove the floodgates if they're not even removable permanents in the gamestate. I think Sky Striker should have a searchable crept Waboku/One Day.

I think that the archetype mechanic is the main reason I like Yu-Gi-Oh and therefore pile decks or ones like Dragon Link or Dinos are so boring to me. If I wanted to play a combo deck that's just 'dragon good stuff's id play Magic. Dinomorphia might be one of my favorite recent decks because it's actually different than just "makes Ultimate Conductor Tyranno easier" and every new dragon Konami makes I loathe because they just end up being new tools for Dragon Link.

My hot take: SK Starving Venom and the Tyrant Neptune should come back since they give an interesting interaction to cards in the GY. You really only need to ban Independent Nightingale and they would be fine.

Hottake: Late GX and Early Synchro was the golden Era of Yugioh :o

we need a part 2 of this. big W on the extra deck to 10 and knightmare comments

Heavy Slump is the underrated counter to Maxx C. Unless they draw into something like Super Poly or Droplets, you can shuffle back their hand and leave them with just 2 cards.

I think the Extradeck should be smaller making so that cards like super poly or Instant fusion actively hinders the player also making sure we don't get Pile.decks to be a thing like when we had Dogmatika Invoked Shaddol it would single handedly reduce the versatility on most decks and make so that each deck has actual Weakness that can be supplemented through the side deck but not mid game at any moment

Verte should never should have been printed, any 2 effect monsters being able to go into any fusion spell in the game is way too broken, they would need to ban half the good fusion spells for Verte to ever feel fair in the game. Also, as a HERO player, please ban Fusion Destiny, I'm tired of seeing so many decks NTR one of my boss monsters

Im so braindead i read the ending as "Payed It Or Smore" for like 5 minutes before i realized what it said..

Hot take/Idea: Instead of waiting 3 months for 10 YCS' to finish up before making a banlist, Konami should have a mini rotation of cards where 3 cards on the list move up for 1-2 months and then they go back to their original place(January gives us pot of greed. skyblaster and Malicious back, March they become banned/limited again and they give us shock master, maxx c and servent of endymion, etc). Then just reprint these cards in a set as commons and starlights so players can play while collectors collet. They get profit while the playerbase tests out cards for the actual banlist.

Single type extra deck format rotation (where tournaments restrict extra decks to only one type) would be interesting to try out for a bit

Hot take: Big boards can potentially be fun to interact with as long as they're not OVERLY oppressive. Picking apart a board is one of the most satisfying things in the game. The key being if they're not OVERLY oppressive; 1-2 negates are fine, 3 is manageable but pushing it, and any more than that it becomes way too overbearing. (So no, I am NOT justifying release Master Duel Drytrons with 6+ negates) By extension, another hot take: Negates aren't the problem as much as cards that negate AND act as removal. Boss monsters that negate without destroying/banishing and/or cards that destroy/banish without negating are actually pretty interactive and healthy, all things considered. Hot take #3: Stardust Dragon and Light and Darkness Dragon are the best designed boss monsters in the game's history, with Unchained Abomination being close up there. This sort of coincides with my 2nd hot take, and although Stardust negates AND destroys, you have to choose to sacrifice your Stardust for the rest of the turn to do it, which provides meaningful thought and interaction from both players (on top of Stardust only negating destruction effects, which are the most common removal effects making it extremely powerful for a long period of time, and non-destruction removal was also reasonable enough to access at the time).

Missed opportunity to call it YU-GI-OH!PINION