imagine the branded player giving the gimmick puppet player free material to OTK then

I mean IV’s strat was burn and alternate win cons by using his Xyz Effects to destroy monsters. It was always going to be an FTK if the strat was given support

⁠@@mrbubbles6468even in bis first appearance I think IV still used the bp to end the game also it doesn’t need to be an FTK when cxyz IV can burn on the opponents turn

I'm glad I never see gimmick puppet used in Masterduel.

Ehhh in defense of Konami, Misc is a lingering effect so once it's been activated it's just a f you to your opponent while you can actually pop the field spell to make them being able to be affected again. Edit: changed continous to lingering

@@Eis_Cold Counter argument: Metaverse

"Noooooooo but it's new cards and it's 2023"

or 2024 I forget

Dinos aren't nearly as dogwater as Gimmick Puppets were

They’d probably make a link 7 first, since the highest right now is 6. Could be something like 5 monsters in your main monster zone, and 2 from opponent main monster zone. Would be really sick if it were untargerable, and gained the attack of everything. That would be like super power creep Underworld Goddess, but I honestly see no issue with printing stupid busted cards at this point. Like if it’s really that bad they can just ban it but why not just let everything be stupid.

You realize I:P exists, right? This would force players to only ever play with less than 3 monsters on the board until they can out it. This does not sound fun.

@@bagodrago "X card exists thus Konami can NEVER EVER make Y effect" is the dumbest take ever tbh.

@@LadyTsunade777 i don’t wanna bully so im definitely not gonna say that it’s the dumbest take. 😭😭 But when it comes to situations like this we always gotta think about the problem card like halq with good tuners. I don’t think ip is cancer or even leads to it but I do think banning it and making the link 8 would be cooler for the game since SP would be a bonus card for going second and linking on the opponents turn could have more creative options

​@@LadyTsunade777 With Yu-Gi-Oh, more so than in other card games, cards do not exist in a vacuum. There is no rotation, just every single card ever printed with a few banned, limited, and semi-limited. It's important to balance certain cards around others, or you have to hit those cards or the cards around them. But that's the thing, you can still make the cards, as long as you balance them around others. Making it so you can only use your opponent's cards on your turn would fix the issue.

Chimera honestly deserves a couple more fusions that are actually illusions. Ignoring the battle trick part of Illusions, they should really get a good end board piece that can 3 times per turn banish your whole field and bring it back to dodge removal.

@@BigCheechin good thing konami is not putting you in charge of card design man

Shamelessly stolen from Gage

@@REvoLverj98well gage culturally appropriated it from the Amazons so no one’s blameless here.

Shit fucking sent me 😂😂

One would assume, but that's too obvious for Konami.

Blue-Eyes Jumpscare un 3, 2, 1...

Konami: We don't have Starry Knight support. Is more Tellarknight support sufficient?

My money's on Light type support. Which could theoretically buff Starry Knight, but in a similar vain as how Snake-Eye technically buffs Laval cards.

We’d need a Christmas Miracle to get more Starry Knight support.

Well they are still focusing around an alt wincon.....

The field spell gives Leo ungodly protection, so if they hit the FTK enablers, it’s definitely possible to use the Win Con

@@ragnaricstudios5888can’t use the trap though

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It's still a free special summon just as a body that alone isn't terrible

It won't be played but in theory, you can summon him to the column below the EMZ and use the other one.

How about burning opponent low enough for disaster leo alt wincon instead of burning them to death just to spite your opponent?

@@nattapakniranittikul either way is pretty funny to me imo

There's no need for it. You get the FTK without a single non-Gimmick Puppet card used

​@@WolferusYTwith horus you can instantly mill baby to make your entire board speed spell 4, instant death buddy.

you sadly cant use bloody doll summon effect if you use horus

you want to tell me you'd rather jump through hoops to maybe mill something useful off of vampire instead of...oh, i don't know, using the four foolish burials the deck has or the 6 rotas/eteles? unalive urself@@r3zaful

​@@user-jk7vp7vn2kyou want to mill at least 1 bloody doll or baby without normal summon, even then you want to use your extra normal summon for consistency tool like pathfinder or even another baby. Remember that bloody doll doesn't lock you from summoning gimmick puppet entirely it's only lock you into extra deck puppet. That's a dilemma for your opponent because you can bait your opponent before committing into your puppet show.

It's great card design if your goal is to ruin the game for however long it takes to ban. The people at Konami trying to tank the game are doing a convincing job.

I mean thats kinda how the overall game design has gotten, decks not considered viable unless it has broken support making it a tier 0 threat until its banned, and 6 months later happens all over again.

They wanna sell/push spooky dogwood as a viable handtrap too instead of just the normal maxx c and friends.

@@justamuart oh lawd not spooky dogwood! lol

Please study the deck before spouting nonsense

If Yubel found a way to be viable, I doubt any deck would ever surprise me if it got support now. Freaking Jinzo or Thousand Dragon Turbo could suddenly get a card that turns their deck into a one card FTK and I wouldn’t bat an eye.

Tier deck? Maybe..... FTK? HELL YES!!!!

​@@Endershock1678 Hatsume-Me-Giant ftk when?

Just like SHS

@@otterfire4712I was fucking flabbergasted when I heard MBT say Superheavy Samurai when discussing the past format. Like... the attack in defence guys??? (They were not being used to attack in defence.)

I pitched “New Funkos Popchamp” but clearly my genius hasn’t caught on quite yet

Only the real ones remember.

This will make a good sub replay friday in 9 months

It's Aromage support.

The imperm chokepoints happen before they do

A person I play with has shown multiple ways the FTK can be pulled off, even without the field spell, so like, what can you hit?

It loses to every single handtrap besides veiler

​@@baril8lightsworn ftk is legal in ocg, and it's tier 2, you guys don't play ocg or what.

@@r3zaful ??? And so?

Unless Konami doesn't hit the tier 0 fire deck thats lining their pockets right now. Then wtf are you doing? You lose to FIRE if you play those and lose to Gimmick Puppet if you don't.

Yall do realise nib works right? Just tribute the monster they gave u, nib isn't an xyz so it won't burn.

Wrong lol

We ain't getting one. I hate to break the news to you. Best water support in recent years was Icejade Ran Aegirine being a one card level 10 synchro.

Consistent FTKs is not good for the meta. Having a card that just says "it's all towers" is not good for the meta. Just because an archetype has been dooodoo before does not justify extremely toxic support for it.

@@keinkanal7382the archetype still bad and it won’t see a play and everyone will forget it after a week of release

@@keinkanal7382but tier 0 unbeatable lizards are fine for the meta?

@@ragnaricstudios5888 Tier0 Formats are also unhealthy for the game, you are correct. I do not know why you think this is a gotcha. Did i indicate anywhere that I think the current format is fine?

​@keinkanal7382, while i don't play meda, so i can't say for sure, but from what i can see it's basically an easy dead counter that any meda deck can get rid of quickly so i don't see why people care it's archetype only so it can't work with anything else and gimmick puppets for the longest time couldn't do shit so this new support fixes every problem besides alt wins have always failed so of course it would become an ftk as a result

They haven’t played the deck so they don’t know about the choke points or the consistency but it’s not great and we’re stopped by some pretty generic hand traps

They dont really brick that much anymore but youre correct on everything else, no ftk line consistently plays through 2 well placed handtraps unless your hand is cracked, and the backup boards are simply not good enough to contend against meta threats most of the time

@@claraladuelliste5769 yeah you are absolutely right about the consistency being majorly improved. Would have to playtest to get a rough estimate but I will never shake the fear of drawing multiple dreary dolls in my starting hand and not being able to discard them

@@leonahlstrom4726 well i have great news about that specifically: we only play one single dreary doll and drawing it is perfectly fine because every single combo line can just use it as an extender special summoned off of chimera

Didn't expect to see those guys referenced today