Enduro Bike Showdown 2022: Top 5 Picks Compared

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Enduro Showdown: Santa Cruz Megatower vs Transition Spire vs Orbea Rallon vs Rocky Mountain Altitude vs Revel Rail 29
Today we've got 5 of the best enduro bikes for 2022. See how they stack up and find out which is best for your riding style.
0:00 Introducing the Contenders
0:48 Climbing Comparisons
3:13 Descending Comparisons
8:43 Which is Best for You?
10:15 Awards
Spire Review - • Transition Spire Revie...
Megatower Review - • Santa Cruz Megatower R...
Altitude Review - • Rocky Mountain Altitud...
Rallon Review - • Orbea Rallon Review: L...
Rail29 Review - • Revel Rail 29 Review: ...
As always you can find the written article on our website - www.bebikes.com/the-hub/2022-...

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@MikeesTexas
@MikeesTexas Жыл бұрын
This was hands down one of the best bike reviews. I’m blown away with how well you described so many thoughtful details about each bike, and then compared them all to one another. Wow!!!
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the kind words!
@uknowjoe1
@uknowjoe1 Жыл бұрын
sweet videos. I always look forward to your reviews. What is your primary ride?
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
@@uknowjoe1 I currently have a Megatower.
@uknowjoe1
@uknowjoe1 Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge ha ha "currently" nice...
@pedalfaster2033
@pedalfaster2033 Жыл бұрын
Once again, THANK YOU for the awesome reviews! You do the best reviews on KZfaq!
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@TheTacticalathlete
@TheTacticalathlete Жыл бұрын
Always on point with real trail testing and comparisons that matter to those of us who dream of bike upgrades! Thank you
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. Glad you like the videos!
@johnwilkes9142
@johnwilkes9142 Жыл бұрын
Great review-thank you!
@NathanEide
@NathanEide Жыл бұрын
As someone who went through this a year ago, I ended up with the Spire for one reason only: Low standover height with long reach and wheelbase. It's so incredibly stable and confidence-inspiring in the descent.
@mikeyp3694
@mikeyp3694 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic summary of the other review videos. Really brings it home.
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@William.N
@William.N Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I wanted to see! Thank you!
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@mtbjoser
@mtbjoser Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thank you for the chart at around 0:30, that is immensely helpful. Top-notch reviews as always 🙌
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks. Glad you liked it!
@mtbjoser
@mtbjoser Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge 👍👍
@patrickwoods2165
@patrickwoods2165 Жыл бұрын
😆 Your awards aren't really "participation trophies"...they're actually relevant. And the full-facers/half-shells/no-knee-pads categories of riders was great. I agree with your "versatile" award for the Altitude - I've had mine almost a year and it does almost everything* very well. (*Long pedal days made mostly of smooth XC trails can be a chore. I don't match the Altitude to those trails very often.)
@lazylearner967
@lazylearner967 Жыл бұрын
The Altitude looks like a rad steed, that does a lot of things well.
@bert3566
@bert3566 Жыл бұрын
@@lazylearner967 I had the chance to test ride one in a mullet for a couple days and it surprised me so much how playful and fast it is for having 170 ml of travel. For my area I wasn’t thinking of needing a bike like that. It would pick up speed to fast I had to brake so I don’t hit my friends lol and the suspension was smooth and had little to no drag
@LastAphelion
@LastAphelion Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this showdown, I'm waiting longer than I'd like to buy a bike but this definitely helps me consider what I want to go try next.
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@pcarts232
@pcarts232 Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge I can’t decide what bike to get , I’m in the Rallon category but I like the Revel Rascal SO MUCH , I want a bike that climbs but can also go DH too , don’t do big jumps or double black trails , the thing is that if I see a big jump I want to get a bike that can cope with it if i decide I want to go for it , if that makes sense! 😂
@hanswolters1781
@hanswolters1781 Жыл бұрын
Awesome review (awesome shop too). I got a Rail 29 and agree that it is an awesome climber. It climbs better than my Trek Fuel Ex 9.8 which it replaces. I am getting older and hence my days of bombing down gnarly trails are few. For me it was between the Rail, the Sentinel and the Switchblade. The Switchblade also climbs amazingly well.
@RhysDolderson
@RhysDolderson Жыл бұрын
thanks for this perfect vid definitely helped me chose between a Megatower or altitude. Keep it up
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@jameskrause4606
@jameskrause4606 Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Great review(s).
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@shanecurnyn3772
@shanecurnyn3772 Жыл бұрын
full-facers/half-shells/no-knee-pads categories made things super clear - well played.
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 Жыл бұрын
I got a chuckle out of it, and I'm part of the "uses Ibis Ripmo as a park bike" category
@ryanmerryman7657
@ryanmerryman7657 Жыл бұрын
Agree!
@TheRicardoSanchez
@TheRicardoSanchez Жыл бұрын
Really excellent, practical review and commentary. You provide perfect context and applicability for each bike. I'm really curious about how you might compare the Altitude and Rail to the all-mtn bikes you've reviewed. The Altitude and Rail seem more all-mtny than straight up enduro sled. I've been looking for a best-of-all-worlds one-bike-quiver setup. I'm on the Hightower V2 today, over-forked and feel fairly confident on any terrain and it pedals well. Plush suspension but feels reasonably agile and it definitely covers a lot of my mistakes in trail. As the tech of these bikes gets more refined and the lines get more blurred it starts feeling like we're splitting hairs on the diff aspects of performance/behavior. Having ridden the HTv2 for a season and demoed the Sentinel and Ripmo, it feels like the HT and Ripmo are the Swiss-army-knife bikes to beat - but should the Rail and Altitude be included in the same discussion? More travel, but still more all-mtny than enduro? It would be great to see a review of those "blurred-lines" bikes. Best Swiss-Army-Knife bike. On paper the Ride 9 variability of the RM seems to run away with it -?
@bertusbob
@bertusbob Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks.
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@ryanmerryman7657
@ryanmerryman7657 Жыл бұрын
Love the “what rider are you” section at the end! You should trademark that!
@lazylearner967
@lazylearner967 Жыл бұрын
Got my Rallon from your shop (Zach) 3 weeks ago. Have a 100 miles on it and put it in the "slack" setting last night. Wow, it rides much different than the steeper HT Angle, not better just different. Need to play with the shock pressure more. I have been on short travel bikes since 2004 and I really love how well the Rallon Climbs and descends. I may need to add a bit of air if I am keeping it in the slack position I will check sag. Had a number of PR's on the down hill at Snowbasin last night. Surprisingly, I had a few PR's a couple of weeks ago on the uphills at the Basin. My other bike is the RM Element which is incredible for a DC bike. Love your channel, but love your shop even more! Keep up the great work.
@mdmattmann
@mdmattmann Жыл бұрын
What would you say is the difference between the low and lower setting?
@foreversteaz
@foreversteaz Жыл бұрын
I’ve got the orbea rallon m10 and boy this bike is absolutely incredible, with the harsh price of a bike without a battery, it’s extremely rewarding sending trails and the uphill climbs are far easier than any other acoustic I’ve owned
@TheLeesto
@TheLeesto Жыл бұрын
Hell yea this was such a good bike review. I like you describe whom the bike would be best for. I've been reluctant to get the MegaTower as a park only bike because it's so much money for a one trick pony but your review describing how none are inefficient climbers and how it's not even the biggest wheelbase, although still big, has me ready to buy. Nicely done!
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks. Glad it was helpful!
@ErichVonCartmann
@ErichVonCartmann Жыл бұрын
Good Job! Another great video. You are getting to be my favorite Advertisement Agency KZfaq Channel. You are doing very good job for your Clients, Santa Cruz, Orbea, Revel, Transition, and Rocky Mountain to help them sell their bikes. Tell them to give you a Raise!
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
$0 + 20% raise = $0. Math.
@ErichVonCartmann
@ErichVonCartmann Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge , let's work on getting those numbers up!
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Put a good word in for me please.
@burkebair
@burkebair Жыл бұрын
Good video. The Pivot Firebird should have been in the shootout vs the Rail. Thanks the reviews.
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks. We don’t carry Pivot at the shop so I won’t be able to make it happen.
@parkinkevin
@parkinkevin Жыл бұрын
Good review 👍🙂
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@brucehumphries6889
@brucehumphries6889 Жыл бұрын
I’m the no knee pads group!! Probably the best explanation of riders to bikes I’ve heard.
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@REB4444
@REB4444 Жыл бұрын
I've made the move to short-travel trail bikes, but whole heartedly agree on Santa Cruz suspensions on their all-mountain/enduro bikes that I will always be a fan of. There's something about them that feels unique as being plush but still sporty and efficient and can bomb through anything you put in front of it. The most comfortable bikes I have ever ridden.
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
They've been getting the feel really dialed in the last year or two as well.
@IBRAKEFORBEDROCK
@IBRAKEFORBEDROCK Жыл бұрын
Jolly good show !
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks!
@chrisbunker2573
@chrisbunker2573 Жыл бұрын
Hey Connor! Awesome review as always! Your reviews are some of the best Ive watched! But I’m curious if you’ve ever had a chance to ride a YT Capra? I know it’s a direct to consumer brand and you guys don’t sell them or whatever but if you have, how does it compare to the bikes you tested? If not the no big deal lol. But thanks again for the great review! 👍😁
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Hey Chris! Glad you like the videos! I rode a Capra about 6 years ago. Unfortunately wont be able to review one now though.
@josechavez2148
@josechavez2148 Жыл бұрын
I ordered a megatower in may, no idea when it will Get here but thanks for the video!
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it! It's amazing. It's what is living in my garage right now.
@bryangreene4969
@bryangreene4969 Жыл бұрын
I think the Rail 29 could be the absolute Swiss Army knife if it were paired with a 170mm fork and or a 27.5 rear wheel. I've ridden plenty of 150mm rear travel 29ers and it's more than enough suspension for any Enduro trail, the Yeti SB150 is an example of this. I think the Rail with it's climbing ability and agileness would be my go to bike
Жыл бұрын
Quality review here
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Why thank you!
@ultimatist
@ultimatist Жыл бұрын
Easily the most relatable, structured, and comprehensive MTB review I've ever seen!! Whole team involved: take a bow!! Only question I came away with was between the two "most versatile" bikes; how would you divvy them up for sub cohorts of the "all arounder" rider?
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it. I put a lot of time into these things. I’d suggest watching to individual reviews for the Rallon and Altitude. That should answer your question.
@ultimatist
@ultimatist Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge good point, will do. Hope to get a taste of Utah trails and swing by the shop one day!
@allenkvextreme
@allenkvextreme Жыл бұрын
Rail 29 is my favorite big bike from this list for my riding style
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
It’s a good one!
@micheandmikey
@micheandmikey Жыл бұрын
I swear, you are the best bike reviewer on the world wide web Connor, hands down. You may know who I am when I mention Ripmo, but every bike you review makes me want to go for a rip. I'd love to see if you could get your hands on a Super Foxy (if you have and I've forgotten, excuse me) and the Antidote Carbon Jack, heck, you're going to ride a carbon Jack, through in a Unno for fun while you're at it. Cheers sir, look forward running into you on the trails!
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the kind words. Glad you like the videos. Unfortunately every one of those bikes you mentioned is something we won’t have access to at the shop.
@andreasfritsch4831
@andreasfritsch4831 Жыл бұрын
As always in my opinion the best reviews available. Is there a chance to see a Showdown from the big bikes of Yeti (SB150 and SB165) and the big bikes from Santa Cruz (Megatower V2 and Nomad V6)
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks. If I can get my hands on the bikes to make it happen I’ll do my best.
@realradrob
@realradrob Жыл бұрын
Love this video! I just sold my Megatower, but I couldn't agree more with how you describe it. It was an absolute beast! Question for you: Where is that trail around the 8:00 mark when you were on the Megatower? That trail looks like a blast!
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
You already sold a V2?!? That’s fast. I don’t know if the trail even has a name but it’s up by bobsled.
@realradrob
@realradrob Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge yeah I literally owned for for a couple weeks. I absolutely loved it, but very quickly realized I missed my snappy Hightower and how playful that bike was so I sold the Megatower and went back to a shorter travel trail bike. The benefit of being one of the first people to own one locally was that since it was still hard to find a Large I literally posted it and had it sold in less than 12 hours. Haha
@ioulianosmarakis
@ioulianosmarakis Жыл бұрын
​@@realradrob How does the Hightower rides compares to the Megatower? I am trying to decide which bike of the two to buy..
@2-strokeadventures405
@2-strokeadventures405 Жыл бұрын
Nice work, you do these reviews well, real world diagnosis.
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks. I appreciate it!
@alleniverson4425
@alleniverson4425 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, ive been waiting for your updated Rascal review. How does it compare to the Rail? Thanks for the videos btw!
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
There haven’t been any updates made to the Rascal since I reviewed it. I won’t have a new video for that.
@jeremyperkins1890
@jeremyperkins1890 Жыл бұрын
Great review! I purchased the Rallon back in May and have about 200 miles on it now. I know what you mean by versatile, this bike is insanely good on multiple trails and i climb faster than i did on my ripmo v2 or the stumpy evo it replaced. I have just as much fun on black diamonds as I do on blues and what you mentioned about the suspension being active and supportive throughout all phases of compression is really spot on. I have a friend with the spire who sold it because it was too big to jump and boring on small trails, it definitely seems amazing if you are dedicated to only big stuff though. My other friend has an altitude and really likes it. Wish I had time on the other bikes you reviewed.
@mdmattmann
@mdmattmann Жыл бұрын
I am also coming from a Ripmo and am awaiting my new Rallon. Would you say that the Rallon is plusher then the Ripmo? I have heard from some peaple that the Rallon has excessive chain slap! What has your experience been? Thanks
@jeremyperkins1890
@jeremyperkins1890 Жыл бұрын
@@mdmattmann my Ripmo v2 had way worse chain slap. You’ll love the Rallon.
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
I don’t think the Rallon is plusher than the Ripmo. The Ripmo has a very soft off the top feel. The Rallon is firm throughout the entire stroke. The Rallon feels more stout and capa ale though.
@uknowjoe1
@uknowjoe1 Жыл бұрын
e@@mdmattmann I also picked up a Rallon in June. I sold my Ripmo AF and haven't thought twice. I have improved PR's. The bike is just fast, but it's stiff compared to my Ripmo. The ripmo was plush and cruised. It also climbed a little bit better. I recently made a change to my Rallon suspension using a shockwiz. Hopefully, it will help. Regardless, the bike is awesome and GOLD! IF I buy a new bike next year, it will probably be a Pivot!
@mdmattmann
@mdmattmann Жыл бұрын
@@uknowjoe1 Now I'm a little worried! I was hoping the Rallon would have better small bump sensitivity! Do you regret getting the Rallon?
@calebbatty6059
@calebbatty6059 Жыл бұрын
What trails are those? I know they are in Utah maybe around the wasatch front. Could I get a list of the trails? They look so fun. I only recognized 2 of them
@andreasfritsch4831
@andreasfritsch4831 Жыл бұрын
Great Review 🤩 Keep up with producing top notch content. One more question. Could the travel of the Orbea Rallon be increased by changing the rear shock and maybe a burlier fork? ;-)
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks. Not sure on a different rear shock size. Not sure if it would be approved by orbea or even work with the frame clearances. The fork is already a 38. Not sure what’s burlier other than a double crown.
@andreasfritsch4831
@andreasfritsch4831 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I thougt it‘s the 36 😉
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
@@andreasfritsch4831 of course. I think all of the stock builds come with a 38 now.
@andreasfritsch4831
@andreasfritsch4831 Жыл бұрын
You do really a great job here. 👍😬
@akburwell
@akburwell Жыл бұрын
Looked close at all of these bikes and ended up buying a Specialized Enduro - still totally relevant geo and great support here in NZ. Not a bargain buy but can be spec'ed quite well compared to the Megatower and Spire for the same money.
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
From what I hear most bikes are crazy expensive out there.
@shanecurnyn4612
@shanecurnyn4612 Жыл бұрын
It’s a great bike. Do yourself a favor and get the specialized Chris King headset. Headset CREAKS with the stock FSA hardware lead to headtube CRACKS. The CK hardware seems to mitigate the issue.
@akburwell
@akburwell Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge Anything priced in NZD is expensive... IE: S-Works Enduro = $16k! If you convert to USD then most things are just 15% more on account of tax. But healthcare is free and other nice perks... TBD if living here is actually sustainable lol although the riding is sick!
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
@@akburwell the riding looks worth the 15% tax. Ha.
@skillzman519
@skillzman519 Жыл бұрын
Lol...'wheelbase of a school bus'...hahaha. I loved it!
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
It has to be within a millimeter or two I swear.
@chrisdavies6637
@chrisdavies6637 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos! So through. And production of your videos is next to non! Excuse my inexperiences.. but why no Pivot bike reviews comparison?
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the kind words. We don’t carry Pivot at the shop.
@chrisdavies6637
@chrisdavies6637 Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge amazing! Thank you for the reply. I am understanding your channel more now. Great content. Kamloops, BC!
@sendyboiii7
@sendyboiii7 Жыл бұрын
would love to see some coverage on the radon swoop
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we don’t have access to that brand at the shop.
@fgonzales11b
@fgonzales11b Жыл бұрын
Great review! Now just waiting on the E bike showdown!!
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Coming soon!
@JacquiPenar
@JacquiPenar Жыл бұрын
In other words, RockyMountain is the best choice. Got it!
@TheCureThatKillz
@TheCureThatKillz Жыл бұрын
I’m always surprised that I don’t see the Evil Wreckoning V3 in these types of videos
@LCNismo
@LCNismo Жыл бұрын
I bought the 22 Rallon. I wanted something that did everything well
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
You picked a good one then!
@matthewcottingham
@matthewcottingham Жыл бұрын
Can you do a review on the Cannondale Jekyll because I am considering it as my next bike
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying to get one. Tough to do.
@thephoenixcycle8854
@thephoenixcycle8854 Жыл бұрын
If I had the money, the need or a place to ride these bikes l would choose the Altitude. great at everything. Plus it looks awesome!
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Good choice!
@bert3566
@bert3566 Жыл бұрын
I was able to test ride one in a mullet for a couple days and it blew me away how fast and playful it was. I live in tx and was skeptical of having such a high travel bike for my area but the altitude wanted to go fast. It was great in the corners and the suspension hardly had any drag. Even with the sales going on they are still pricey
@mrvwbug4423
@mrvwbug4423 Жыл бұрын
Did you mess with the ride 9 setup on the Altitude much? I know it has both linear and progressive linkage rates. I demoed one back in may and they set it up in progressive/full slack for me and the bike actually felt very poppy and fairly playful. IMHO the Altitude in progressive/slack mode would be a really fun park bike, that also climbs better than some trail bikes. Though now I'm really interested to try out a Revel Rail 29, I demoed a Canfield Lithium back in May so I know how well CBF pedals, though the Lithium is definitely a monster truck, not a play bike.
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
I rode the altitude in mainly Teo different setting. I spent a bunch of time in the neutral setting as well as the slack setting. I rode briefly in setting 3 which I think is top left if you’re looking at the square. I spent the majority of my time in slack.
@brad-smith-coaching
@brad-smith-coaching Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Newbie’s question, would the Santa Cruz 5010 fit in this comparison?
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
No. It’s a trail bike. Much less travel and take geometry.
@Brodin87
@Brodin87 Жыл бұрын
Where would you place the Yeti SB160 compared to these other 5 models? I know it wasn´t released at the point you made this video but I´m curious if it´s closest to the Rallon or the Spire/Mega? Feels like really fast and efficient but not so forgiving bike maybe..
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
I did a Mega vs 160 video recently. that should help you see how it compares to the Mega and in turn the rest of these bikes.
@FuriousPacif1st
@FuriousPacif1st Жыл бұрын
How would you compare the riding position of the altitude with the sentinel? I'm looking for a bike that doesnt require quite a super forward active body position all the time.
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
The Altitude will let you ride off the back more than the sentinel. Although that’s a scary place to be on a bike.
@tobiornotobi5403
@tobiornotobi5403 Жыл бұрын
Propane tycee?
@gidva
@gidva Жыл бұрын
I would like to see the firebird.
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
We don’t carry pivot so we won’t be able to make it happen unfortunately
@kham1163
@kham1163 Жыл бұрын
Spire for me. No pads, and full face in the park only. It’s very playful and poppy, but can absolutely Mach rough and steep terrain. It’s surprisingly balanced at low speed too, and comfortable on long climbs. Yes, tight technical turns are challenging, but who cares? And it’s a little boring on the mellow flow trails, but as long as there’s plenty of air time you’re all set. Only bike in the test Group I have not ridden is the Revel, but most of my trails are too rough, and I hit the bike parks a dozen times a season.
@LastAphelion
@LastAphelion Жыл бұрын
Haha it's wild coming from other comments where people say Spire was too much and the opposite of poppy and playful. What suspension do you have?
@kham1163
@kham1163 Жыл бұрын
Fox 36 - 3 tokens, 65 psi and low speed rebound dialed up more than most. Fox x2, 2 tokens and low speed rebound quite high as well. High speed rebound is set pretty standard as are my compression settings. Low speed rebound allows me to get pop I want off little roots and things.
@thed4657
@thed4657 Жыл бұрын
How does the yeti sb150 compare to these? I find it strange that this channel does not cover an enduro bike that keeps doing so well on the EwS circuit. This bike also has a pretty solid pedaling/ susp platform
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
We couldn’t get one for the review. To be frank, that bike is getting a little outdated compared to some of the newer enduro bikes. I think a big reason it does so well is because of who is riding it. That said I used to own one. Great bike.
@allenrogers7473
@allenrogers7473 Жыл бұрын
My one year old SB130 lr is outdated? 😭 Was hoping it would last at least two years. What would you say is the biggest differences between these new bikes and the Yetis is?
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
@@allenrogers7473 well I mean that frame was released at least 4 years ago now. It’s not necessarily outdated it’s just a little old news to be including in a showdown like this. Plus it’s a trail/all-mountain bike rather than an enduro bike.
@shivermetimbers5203
@shivermetimbers5203 Жыл бұрын
The crazy thing is the SB150 has geometry that’s very very close to both the rail and the Rallon. The SB bikes might be four years old but certainly not “out dated”. I agree though that Richie Rude could ride a wheelbarrow faster than most of us. Looking at last years EWS winner, Moir, he was riding a bike with geometry that the internet would have dubbed un-ridable. Maybe trying to draw conclusions from EWS pros is flawed but it does seem to me that the new breed of ultra low and ultra slack and ultra long maybe isn’t the fastest or most fun or most pedal friendly unless you’re riding in a straight line everywhere?
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
@@shivermetimbers5203 did you see that article pinkbike did about why the average joes shouldn’t do what the pros do? I think that’s the best response I’ve seen to the Jack moir things. Those guys are freaks. They’re way better at bikes than all of us. They can get away with doing some pretty crazy things, bike size and setup included.
@n47h4n12
@n47h4n12 Жыл бұрын
I also live along the Wasatch Front, where are you riding at 6:10?
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
LCC
@craig7299
@craig7299 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for the upduro vs downcountry shootout
@LastAphelion
@LastAphelion Жыл бұрын
Upduro 🤣 please tell me that has never been used seriously??
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Same with downcountry right? Can we just call them trail bikes?
@bommoriba
@bommoriba Жыл бұрын
Hallarious! Upduro WTF 😒
@riddlediddle598
@riddlediddle598 Жыл бұрын
so what i’ve got from this video, Spire for tour de france races
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Think how many titles Lance would have won if he had a Spire.
@LastAphelion
@LastAphelion Жыл бұрын
I want content like that so bad, forcing roadies to race enduro that have never ridden mtb and only get a short time to acclimate. Or just a stupid endurance race that forces people to sprint on enduros. Am I cruel
@JonnyMaximum
@JonnyMaximum Жыл бұрын
@@LastAphelion Most of the new generation of grand tour riders have backgrounds in MTB, so I think its safe to say they'd beat all our asses up and down.
@LastAphelion
@LastAphelion Жыл бұрын
@@JonnyMaximum I'm glad to hear that. It makes me cringe so hard when I see like a GCN video "roadies vs mtbers!" "can roadies ride mtb!?" and then it shows roadies like crying at the top of a hill scared to go down an easy trail holding the brakes the entire time... Its gotta be drama made up for views.
@maxd6921
@maxd6921 Жыл бұрын
Where would you place the sentinel in terms of downhill capability compared to these bikes?
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
I make that comparison vs the Megatower. Go watch the mega standalone review. The Sentinel sits below all of these minus the Rail.
@raven98h10
@raven98h10 Жыл бұрын
How would you compare Rallon to the Sentinel?
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Go watch the Rallon then Megatower stand alone reviews. You'll see the comparisons made there.
@woutervanteerling
@woutervanteerling Жыл бұрын
I’m a full face, bikepark no paddle rider, but most downhill bikes are to heavy and not playful at all.. this might be the hardest position to be in to find one bike haha
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Mega or Spire should treat you well.
@Bluelights17
@Bluelights17 Жыл бұрын
If i wanted a nice and plush, ground hugging bike that isnt a terrible climber, would the altitude be a good choice?
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
That or the Megatower. The rail would be the best climber and still really plush just not as capable as the other two.
@aaronrosenberg2037
@aaronrosenberg2037 Жыл бұрын
Did you end up keeping or buying any of these bikes? I saw in the Megatower review you said that it felt like your sentinel but with deeper suspension -- was wondering if that became your daily driver?
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Yes. I rode the Megatower all of last year as my personal bike. I'm riding the SB160 this year.
@aaronrosenberg2037
@aaronrosenberg2037 Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge Awesome. Did you perceptions from the showdown hold up when you had it long term?
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
@@aaronrosenberg2037 Yes. I had been riding the MT frequently for about 5 months at this point.
@phattysnow
@phattysnow Жыл бұрын
So… if a guy rides snowbasin, powmow, bst, pcmr, lost lad, and then also does the crest at least 2 times a week in the AM before work… with a couple weekend trips to Moab/brianhead in the fall which bike you sending him otd with?
@spicycoco1
@spicycoco1 Жыл бұрын
Rallon or Rascal.
@phattysnow
@phattysnow Жыл бұрын
I own a rascal and love it. Looking for a little more plush to tackle a few more trails
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Unless you’re riding the gnarly old school DH stuff at PC, I’d say the Rail. The other will all be overkill on that stuff.
@nord270
@nord270 Жыл бұрын
Where are the bikes testet? It looks like a really nice terrain?
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
All across northern utah
@iamjmp
@iamjmp Жыл бұрын
Does the EVIL Wreckoning fair well against any of these bikes?
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Not sure. Haven’t ridden it.
@K1ngJame5-mtb
@K1ngJame5-mtb Жыл бұрын
How come the norco range wasn’t included?
@shanecurnyn4612
@shanecurnyn4612 Жыл бұрын
Good question
@christopherchristophersen8495
@christopherchristophersen8495 Жыл бұрын
Is there any significant difference / improvments between these bikes and a Trek Slash 2021 9.8?
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Haven’t ridden that bike so I can really say.
@christopherchristophersen8495
@christopherchristophersen8495 Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge thanks for answering, you should try one :)
@deinfahrradistweg3662
@deinfahrradistweg3662 8 ай бұрын
whats the best bike for bike park riding with big jumps
@bikersedge
@bikersedge 8 ай бұрын
Depends on what you want for big jumps. The poppiest? the most forgiving if you screw something up? The best for balance between tech and flow?
@Thesomersetgimp
@Thesomersetgimp Ай бұрын
Watch the video. Like the Rallon Bought a Speci Enduro in the end. Still king 👑
@johnwilkes9142
@johnwilkes9142 Жыл бұрын
Should i sell my Ranger or Rascal to buy the Rail29? 🤔 … thoughts/opinions appreciated
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Depends on if you think the Rail better fits your riding style.
@geraldfilmore6978
@geraldfilmore6978 Жыл бұрын
Love my altitude! but i don’t know if i would call it efficient :/
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call it the most efficient either.
@spadeknifeworks
@spadeknifeworks Жыл бұрын
I love the Spire, but the external cable routing completely kills it for me.
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
That one of my favorite things about it. Swapping brakes without having to bleed them is amazing. Everything else is internal.
@MikeesTexas
@MikeesTexas Жыл бұрын
I’m digging the external routing
@RM-yc3dq
@RM-yc3dq Жыл бұрын
Any chance to test the Kona process X ?😊
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we don’t carry kona.
@RM-yc3dq
@RM-yc3dq Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge seak review anyway!! 💯✊ happy new year from France
@jiajianhou426
@jiajianhou426 Жыл бұрын
No specialized enduro?
@kingrat738
@kingrat738 Жыл бұрын
I want all of them 😁
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Same.
@kingrat738
@kingrat738 Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge Thanks for doing the best, no bs, reviews on the interwebs 👍
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
@@kingrat738 hey thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it.
@brianc0019
@brianc0019 Жыл бұрын
What about the Specialized Stumpjumper EVO, the Status and the Enduro ? 🤦🏻‍♂️
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
We don’t carry specialized at the shop. This isn’t a comprehensive showdown.
@michaelfrymus
@michaelfrymus Жыл бұрын
... Pivot Firebird?
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
We don’t carry Pivot at the shop.
@janhagen2960
@janhagen2960 Жыл бұрын
whats about the specialized enduro?
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Not sure. We don’t carry specialized at the shop.
@janhagen2960
@janhagen2960 Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge ok, i got it. i just see the enduro actually as reference.
@justicebdone7
@justicebdone7 Жыл бұрын
The Trek Slash, YT Capra and Pivot Firebird at a minimum should have been in the test, 5 Enduro bikes isn't a comprehensive test
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Never claimed to be comprehensive. These are the enduro offering from most of the brands we carry.
@danwebber9494
@danwebber9494 Жыл бұрын
I noticed the “No pads-double black-hardtail rider” wasn’t on the list…
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Well yeah because these are all full suspension bikes.
@Waferdicing
@Waferdicing Жыл бұрын
😎
@joshuamueller2744
@joshuamueller2744 Жыл бұрын
Firebird
@tomaszmichewicz7867
@tomaszmichewicz7867 Жыл бұрын
Still Ripmo V2 wins for me :)
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
I'd call that more of an all mountain bike. Amazing for the category.
@darrensmith9182
@darrensmith9182 Жыл бұрын
You keep saying the megatower is plush i owned the previous model and it was a bitch to set up ,other reviews are saying the v2 is still harsh so whats the go
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
I also struggled with the V1. Found it a little stiff for my liking. The V2 feels nothing like that bike. I haven’t heard anyone say this new one is harsh.
@LastAphelion
@LastAphelion Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge Check out the Pink bikes latest review on it, it was pretty odd coming from your review hearing "gooey" then seeing them report harshness, some people echoed that too down in the comments. I'd like to understand the reason for the difference, difference in tune? idk?
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
@@LastAphelion If you can, go ride one for yourself. You'll see there's no harshness with this bike. Don't know where they're getting that.
@nickatdallas
@nickatdallas Жыл бұрын
Just bought myself a Magatower, too bad you don’t show all these bikes from side view. Thanks for the reviews, watch them all ❤
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Nice. You’re going to love it!
@TheCureThatKillz
@TheCureThatKillz Жыл бұрын
No Evil Wreckoning V3?!?!?!
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
We don’t carry evil at the shop.
@marklouieadame
@marklouieadame Жыл бұрын
Of course it needs efficient climbing it is an enduro bike lol... enduro bike is supposed to be the do it all bike. Trail ready, downhill ready and downcountry thats why we have enduro race and requirements of tough parts
@LifeOfAndrewKing
@LifeOfAndrewKing Жыл бұрын
Where is the Specialized Enduro? if it’s a Enduro comparison video I don’t believe you can leave out the bike named after the sport itself!
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
Brett isnt wrong. Plus we like good bikes….
@randallgd
@randallgd Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge There a lot of good bikes and brands out there.... just cause you don't carry them no need to put other brands down. I get it I managed two different shops. We all want to sell our own inventory. I also understand the purpose of your channel is trying increase sales. But putting other brands down only makes you look bad not the other brands. Unsubscribing
@bommoriba
@bommoriba Жыл бұрын
@@randallgd true 🤌🏻
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
@@randallgd it’s a joke. Just having a little fun. I’m sure the enduro is a great bike. I know a lot of folks who love it. It seems to do really well in the EWS too. We don’t carry it and I’m not going to be able to get one for review.
@LastAphelion
@LastAphelion Жыл бұрын
@@randallgd You really over reacting... 🙄
@mikes.8305
@mikes.8305 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the nomad is better than the mega tower for everything except maybe racing…
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
The new one might be. Haven’t ridden it. It’s basically a mullet mega.
@mikes.8305
@mikes.8305 Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge yes sorry, talking about the 23. The short rear end makes a big difference for my riding style anyway. Much more “peddley” and poppy kinematics also, which I like more than the mega.
@LastAphelion
@LastAphelion Жыл бұрын
Check out the santa cruz video of the guy shredding the Megavalanche on the Nomad he rocks
@sal6199
@sal6199 Ай бұрын
Rail 29 should not be an Enduro bike , it's more a Trail bike at 150 rear and 160 front. Santa Cruz Bronson is a Trail bike and it has the same 150 to 160. That is why it climbs better and faster.
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Ай бұрын
If you watch the video you’ll see I say exactly that.
@fredaodh
@fredaodh Жыл бұрын
forget specialized..
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
We like good bikes...
@nate390
@nate390 Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge oooof
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
@@nate390 haha. We don’t carry Specialized at the shop so I’m contractually obligated to make fun of them.
@nate390
@nate390 Жыл бұрын
@@bikersedge Fair enough, your guys' selection of brands is probably the best I've seen under one roof.
@shanecurnyn4612
@shanecurnyn4612 Жыл бұрын
Enduro is a game changer of a bike but they tend to fall apart, have bit too slack of a seat tube angle, head tube could be a hair steeper, and have only one chainstay length. The new Megatower rides pretty dang similar and addresses everything on that wish list. Goes up and down just a little bit better IMHO and does so with a more tried and true suspension platform that won’t blow up the frame or shock.
@jamesw1791
@jamesw1791 Жыл бұрын
The minute you said participation trophies you lost me. Your review seems like Switzerland you're trying to be neutral with everybody and not piss anybody off in regards to the sponsors that will give you these bikes to try. Pretty lame. And yes you may not get compensation from these guys but you get hits on KZfaq because you get to use these bikes to test them out. So yeah their sponsors.
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
You made it pretty far then. Thanks for watching for a good 10 minutes. Sorry I highlighted a strength of each bike in the form of an award. My review is honest and calls out strengths and weaknesses of each of the bikes. It’s a tool to help people find the right bike for them. Not a tool to be negative and poo poo a bunch of things on the internet.
@bommoriba
@bommoriba Жыл бұрын
Where them pivots at?🤌🏻
@bikersedge
@bikersedge Жыл бұрын
We don’t carry them at the shop. We aren’t able to include them.
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