[Eng Sub] Junho on "using Jaebeom's name in marketing" (2PM/Hottest fan meeting, 100227)

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TURN ON ANNOTATIONS FOR ENGLISH SUB. Please, no bashing. Translations by ALLKPOP (tinyurl.com/ydt7lca) with minor grammar edits by my Korean tutor.
I personally wanted to upload parts of the conference that addressed the most controversial disagreements between Hottests and 2PM (first was Jay's initial leaving, and this one, how JYPE supposedly used Jay to mess with fans' feelings). The whole thing is here: www.megaupload.com/?d=J0JADPQH
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In my opinion, Junho would not lie about the members temporarily hating Jay if he really didn't do anything. It is human nature to feel hurt and angry when a close friend of yours makes a mistake. I do not blame the members nor Jay, as everyone makes mistakes.
At the end of the day, it's still just pop music, guys. If you support the artist, great. If not, just move on-- don't be selfish by trying to ruin someone else's life and career. Remember that no one really knows what happened.

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@JojoChan320 13 жыл бұрын

Junho is calm and patiently telling what they thought and did prepared. ... I admire his strong personality! He didnt go angry when a fan is judging them and he is telling the facts honestly

@justawhile 12 жыл бұрын

JUNHO u r the best. U r dare and strongest in 2PM when it comes to the situation like this. I LOVE U and I WILL SUPPORT 2PM FOREVER no moatter wht will happen . 2PM FIGHTING ! I LOVE JUNHO>3

@TheNanak86 13 жыл бұрын

i really respect junho..he is full of patience~~~and i'm sad cuz jay will never comeback to 2pm...

@dragonfly5665q 10 жыл бұрын

2PM will always be a 7 members group in my heart

@dbsksarangx3 11 жыл бұрын

that fan was being so rude to junho. he was obviously genuinely trying to explain. that fan shouldn't be called a fan in the first place. i'm not even a hottest and this makes me angry. i wonder if 2pm has to deal with that kind of rudeness all the time.

@manadononi3 13 жыл бұрын

Wow..Junho's so good in answering that hard question! He's honest too! Very charismatic indeed! He might be the 'next' 2PM leader then?? (just my opinion, so pls don't brick me! lol)

@ohmyltv 14 жыл бұрын

The end just broke my heart ): Junho is telling them how they truly miss their leader and how they decided to dedicate their hardwork to Jay D: He explained their feelings yet there are some fans who are just too thick-headed to understand. It's not right to see fans talking back to 2PM with disrespect. It just isn't.

@scarXVI 7 жыл бұрын

it hurts so much to hear that baby Junho and 2PM had to go through this, some of those 'fans' were so rude they were more like antis but 2PM is strong and happy now and Jay is doing fine, it's all that matters

@IceMaiden888 14 жыл бұрын

i will cont to support 2pm till the end. i believe in them.

@lovestarcarmen 14 жыл бұрын

how can he take it so easy as talking likes he's sooo innocent.

@cornemuz 14 жыл бұрын

Anyone can tell Junho's not lying when talking like this.

@beautifulstranger101 14 жыл бұрын

OMG THIS MADE ME TEAR. ah eff this reminds me how 2oneday are antis all along. How screwed is the world tell me?

@minglemind5092 12 жыл бұрын

junho~

@DODOLADODOLI 13 жыл бұрын

poor junho! the fan keep on bashing him with those kind of questions!

@esatravieza4life 11 жыл бұрын

What I want to know is what did he do during Again and Again promotions that he had to tell JYPE after he had agreed to return????? That is what has bugged me all these years lol

@ahhitscinny 14 жыл бұрын

this makes me feel sad for hating them even for a little bit now. 2pm members really wanted him to come back..

@Heechulkaulitz483 13 жыл бұрын

AWW ON MY BIRTHDAY.

@woahlookitscathy 14 жыл бұрын

ugh freaking fan....no need to cuss, just listen to what junho says. jeez he's being serious, and if i was junho i would've probably hated jay for leaving but would've gotten over it over time. always 7 forever

@tjchien12 13 жыл бұрын

I give 2PM so much credit for being able to talk to these fans calmly even though they were basically screamed at them calling them idiots. If I were one of them I would have just cried on the spot. They must really miss Jay.

@saipinsiampun2742 10 жыл бұрын

Need eng sub

@ElizabethMartinezOfficial 13 жыл бұрын

I'm a REAL Hottest and Jaywalker for like

@PleaseTrustMe 14 жыл бұрын

this is just sad. some fans need to calm down. it's not like any of us can really know how it was for 2PM during all of this. but, you can hear how seriously hurt they were to lose jay. the whole situation must have been terrible. even to those stupid fans that don't deserve it, they were respectful. i support jay and i support 2PM so much more after this. they're all getting hated on for no reason.

@025general 14 жыл бұрын

This makes me so sad... I am a very big 2PM fan and I know how much they love each other... Whatever the reasons are, I think it's just for the best.. not just of Jay but the rest of the 2PM... I will continue to support this group no matter what and I will also support Jay for whatever he likes to do... Love you 2PM! Love you Jay!!! Fighting for you all!!!

@07xol 12 жыл бұрын

i think that when jaebeom decide to end his contract

@chocolaterice90 13 жыл бұрын

lmao.The fans at the end nearly made me piss my pyjama bottoms!

@ElizabethMartinezOfficial 13 жыл бұрын

I feel sooo bad... I got into Kpop after the incident with Jay... When I first got into 2PM it was the songs and shows that still had Jay in the group... When I watched one of 2PM comeback stages I was so confused as to why he wasn’t on stage later I found out the reason... I wish I got into 2PM before the incident so that somehow some way I could give ALL the members encouragement... It’s sad to see fans 'Flip-Flop' when it comes to issues like this... 2PM Fighting... Jay Fighting

@ohudushi3417 10 жыл бұрын

I hate jay because of this. Everyone said 2pm bullying jay and everything, and 2pm got hurt by this rumor. Please, just leave 2pm and jay alone. Both 2pm and jay are doing well on their own path. Stay strong Junhoooooo

@aligirl8 11 жыл бұрын

i miss Jay and 2PM together :(

@TheAinakuma 14 жыл бұрын

@stellastarry i'm sooo agree with you... people bashing and fighting.. battling who is wrong and who is right.. i think it's useless(sorry).... we dont know what actually happen between them.. we can't just blame one side and hate another... if people are tired of all this,move on.. if u still love them, support them.. even if u're fighting and bashing each other, nothing gonna change...

@sue97ify 12 жыл бұрын

yes, that's why i said he already decide to out from 2pm even he doesn't know yet. But people keep anticipate he to comeback, same as me. but he's awesome with his way now :)

@devilfairy321 13 жыл бұрын

idont get it, what exactly happen on Janurary 3??? plz someone tell me im confused

@xLittleMissShi 12 жыл бұрын

Hey hottests, there's no point blaming anyone. Both 2pm and Jay are happy now! (: They're successful currently! Who said that we can't support both sides? I love both sides and i know that true hottests will too! Whose with me? :D

@yuexiang123 13 жыл бұрын

that fan really didn't need to say that...

@ohmyltv 14 жыл бұрын

@ally187 True... I am disappointed by the fact that they hated him for a while. And referring the family analogy, sometimes family can do something that makes you feel hurt. I think that's what they meant when they "hated", that they were hurt. But they forgave him. Even if you are hurt by your family, you'll eventually forgive that person.

@18qaqa 14 жыл бұрын

ya u are right!i hope most of 2pm fans out there would think as u.I know we miss Jay.But there is 6 member of 2pm out there still do their best with their carear..hope the hottests out there would support them even without jay!they are 6.not to less Btw.

@wildypark22 12 жыл бұрын

i sad from what they (fans) say.. why they are like that. junho is very calm. i love how junho answer them. he can't control his emotion. if i were junho idon't know what will happen, maybe i've cried.. i didn't know what they want, they make jay left, and they angry when he left.. it'sbeen almost over than 2 years after the accident, i hope both of them (2pm and Jay) can meet again, although not as one group, but as a partner and family who is take care each other.. :)

@darkmatter462 13 жыл бұрын

@adeqsetan there was 2 cases, 1 is that Myspace controversy, and 2 , yes, there is another case which is far worse than the 1st one.. for the 2nd case, we may never know what he did bcoz if i'm not mistaken, JYPE and other 2PM members will not reveal it to the public in order to protect Jay's pride...

@starlessnite171 11 жыл бұрын

sooo.... what happened on january 3rd?

@imURtpie 13 жыл бұрын

@keppsmilingalwz lol.. just through this, it just shows how we both love J so much haha.. but yeah.. i'm actually happy of whats happening right now. J just kept quiet.. he didnt say bad stuff about the guys and now he's back. just so happy about it.. happy that hs doing great.. btw, have you read his YO! RAPS interview? the yo raps representative told J that the guys had a conference with the fans and that they said mean stuff about him.. have you read that interview?

@darkmatter462 13 жыл бұрын

@omggmo1111 as far as I know, yes, he himself confessed to JYP on December 22nd ... If u have lots of time, you can read the whole transcript of JYPE's conference at allkpop if u want to.. just search google "transcript jype conference" and choose the 1st link.. the transcript has 2 parts

@KimmimaruSai 14 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure their all as equally talented as the other, and it was really terrible what "Hottests" did to them. All this stuff that happened was really unnecessary and it's depressing.

@Jwalker-123 11 жыл бұрын

noo i'm a Jwalker! but i don't dislike 2PM cuz 2PM NEVER really NEVER voted jay out! It was jay who said he'll leave the group so that 2PM won't be hurt then he left korea but then they all planed jay to come back but jay did something wrong! but NO ONE except 2PM, JYP and Jay know that. so that's why jay left and went Solo

@seputehsalju 13 жыл бұрын

hate is another form of love.. have u never heard of a saying " the people u love the most is the one that can hurt u the most" from that hurt feeling, anger & hate can emerge but in the end it will cool down.

@destiny428 14 жыл бұрын

"Whether you like them or not they are good kids who work hard and I don't think anyone should take anything away from them. " Just because Jay left, does that mean 2pm is gonna poof too? Like seriously. wtfudge, they worked hard too, they don't deserve this hate!! That fan was so rude.

@dahlers 13 жыл бұрын

i think the fans' hatred is misplaced. really NO ONE knows what went on between 2pm and Jay. i don't see any reason why 2pm would lie so I believe them when they said they prepared for Jay's return by corresponding through videos and what not. but ultimately, Jay chose a different path. if fans should be upset, they should be upset at Jay for not returning.

@jomzdacara13 13 жыл бұрын

@yoesop ohh okay. thanks for the information. uhm. when did Jay Park left? what date and when is that Myspace controversy was brought to public? thanks

@lovelymickey176 13 жыл бұрын

Seems like most of chosen fans attending the conference are antis. All members must be extremely patient to deal with them. They are just so rude not only to Junho but also to other members.

@jomzdacara13 13 жыл бұрын

@yoesop ohh. its okay. thanks anyway for the information ^___^

@sagy4561 12 жыл бұрын

I'm A TRUE HOTTEST FOEVER !!!

@iluvsandr 14 жыл бұрын

totally agree with what's written in the video description... they wanted jay back just as much as (most likely more than) the fans so if people think they failed jay, it really goes both ways. 2pm bashers, please move on with your lives! junho, 2pm hwaiting!

@kaochipha 14 жыл бұрын

Of course they would've been mad, they love and respect Korea. I admit if I were them I would've hated Jay somehow too. These fans are so rude and don't even understand 2pm's point of view.

@imURtpie 13 жыл бұрын

@keppsmilingalwz i totally agree. its really showed that the fans were really hurt since they were the ones who made the path for J to comeback. plus JYP put their hopes up making them believe that J's coming back. whats up with Jan03?

@jujuice620 13 жыл бұрын

@ahhleeishere i know that the other thing that jyp always brings up

@025general 14 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you!

@Hehekayy 13 жыл бұрын

ah.. it hurts to watch these videos,these fans act like they always supported Jay and never thought bad of him and 2PM are the bad guys that hated him and made him leave, i love Jay and i love 2PM and i really cant stand how some fans are treating 2PM.. like its their fault he left, they did what was best for him and they did the right thing because of their decision everyone loves Jay again, Jay is going to be in two movies and hes making an album and can come back to korea, it was for the best

@dragonfly5665q 10 жыл бұрын

janauary 3rd. i think Junho means that on that day it was decided that jay park wont be re-uniting with the group any more while they were not sure and having high hopes of him coming back as a member of 2PM again

@psycodal 13 жыл бұрын

@glfishyyy yes she did. "x빠지게" would be roughly translated into the "f" word.

@ziziapz 14 жыл бұрын

what the hell did he do just tell us ~!~!~!~!!! and we will decide that he's wrong or not

@jlee9826 12 жыл бұрын

@xLittleMissShi who knows?(: maybe they are~ maybe inside they still miss jay?

@yoesop 13 жыл бұрын

the end really makes me mad at 2pm fans first they want him to go then come back? i mean pick one. also listening how respectful junho was and fans getting angry just idk im not trying to bash on the fans just they need to mature

@kfosho 13 жыл бұрын

i am frikin dying with curiosity over what jay did exactly....maybe in the future we will know?? ahahha i'm still hoping that he actually comes back to 2pm. i think 2pm secretly miss him a lot too (:

@missykz 14 жыл бұрын

This is just sad. We all deserve to demolish them if we want. Their money is coming off of the money we're spending on their things that is selling under their name. I believe in all that we as the FANS can Bash, say what we want. There was a bond that was created because of the 7 together. If they want all of the fans to love them more, tell the truth about what really did happen. So we can understand and forgive and forget.

@R134able 13 жыл бұрын

wow that fan srsly i cant believe she calls herself a FAN

@lilswt99 12 жыл бұрын

These fans are so rude and condescending. Completely fake fans with an ulterior motive, trying to put the blame on 2PM when it was the FANS who chased Jay out of Korea. It's so sad watching this and hearing Junho's voice among all the hostility they are showing him. The transcript shows even more insults. But props to 2PM for being able to be calm and respectful in face of criticisms from so called fans who are supposed to support them.

@MeaLyse 13 жыл бұрын

In which show did he say that ? Plz help ! Is there a video for that ?

@Msonn907 13 жыл бұрын

what happened on januray 3rd?

@yoesop 13 жыл бұрын

@jomzdacara13 i forgot what date but it was early september of 2009 for sure

@PinkishTOFU 14 жыл бұрын

that fan amuses me. "we made the ****ing path." good for you little girl.

@Cilver007 14 жыл бұрын

Did 2oneday subb this? If anyone know, could someone send me a link? Thanks~

@MzLoathsome 12 жыл бұрын

I meant this video he mentions it.

@ginalee 14 жыл бұрын

@syalilin1 well, korean people do know more when it comes to these situations than naive foreign people who always think the best of idol groups just because they are goodlooking and seem nice and funny on TV.

@nadadya 13 жыл бұрын

the background pictures..some of them r really funny..hehe

@yoesop 13 жыл бұрын

@jomzdacara13 his contract got terminated so he really cant comeback to 2pm. and he didnt leaven 2pm of the myspace thing he leftt bcuz he did another thing. i think he told his friends about his contract with jyp like his schedule and everything when he was supposed to let only his family know. but now i think jyp wants jay back for sure

@yansMC 14 жыл бұрын

I've always wondered what Junho meant when he said that they "hated" Jay for a little while after Jan 3. Was he directly talking about Jay's departure or the "incident" during Again & Again that know one knows about except Jay and people in JYP? Of course, I can't really say anything now because what's done is done. It just makes me curious after so long. Still, I don't want Jay or 2PM to be hurt anymore.

@litosmileygrl 12 жыл бұрын

I still don't understand why he left besides that Myspace controversy. I did go on jay park wiki but it still didn't explain clearly, or I might've missed something. Can you clear it up for me? Thanks

@menolly1019 11 жыл бұрын

It really is a mystery. What did he do that didn't involve a criminal breach, was so bad he couldn't return to 2PM, but allowed him to return as a solo artist? At this point I almost feel like just telling the public would have had less of a damaging effect than all the speculation that went on and probably still does.

@Kaesar008 14 жыл бұрын

it´s sad because 2pm fought for a dream and now the fans that made them famous are destroying them, well JYP forget that ilusions of fans being destroyed is dangerous, and now the results are these.Well i just want to know if the fans think what 2pm is gonna do if they disband like a lot of people want. I´m not a fan or an anti, i just think that it´s also sad to see how their incredible friendship is broken so easily and how the fame make you change even if you say that it hasn´t.

@ordinarioe 14 жыл бұрын

What happened on January 3rd?!

@chinesebaaby 13 жыл бұрын

i guess the fan felt angry that jay was pretty much alone in this controversey he didnt even have his brothers around him for support cause they hated him too. he never got a good word online tellin him its okay as the group said in an interview before that no one told him they loved him it was all negative, also with the group hating him too who else could he turn to? his family was in seattle so he left to seattle. but for sure they still think and care for him immensely with all their success

@KongAiShangAshley 14 жыл бұрын

gosh imagine them in the center of all these irate fans...

@ilovethemgiraffes 14 жыл бұрын

What happened on january 3rd? What did he do?

@imURtpie 13 жыл бұрын

@keppsmilingalwz i know they did chase him away and ur totally right they should have supported jae during those sad times. everybody's wondering what happened on that day.. cause isnt it jay was just in the states? or they turned their back on jay because during 2pm's 2nd anniversary jay have a livestream interview? or they're just making up stuff to totally destroy jae when some of the hottest withdrew from the fanclub because they supported jae instead?

@ilovethemgiraffes 14 жыл бұрын

what happened on jan 3 that was so bad??

@YoonaFTW 12 жыл бұрын

from what i heard from Taec and Khun cause that's what they said, but like you said, maybe we can't really believe what they say. I didn't even know the cockblock issue. Maybe you could tell me..? ._.

@Multi2pmlover 12 жыл бұрын

the fans said THEY made the path? WHO ARE THE ONES TAT CHASED JAY AWAY? junho was trying so hard to explain but they were so rude? 2pm is sad enough but they just had to rub salt on their wounds. they are not true hottests at all. yes we all want jay back but they cant blame 2pm for wad happened cos they were shocked too. STOP BASHIG 2PM PLEASE.

@njokelola3 13 жыл бұрын

i can't believe the fans reaction towards this issue.. first they told jay to die.. then when jay decided to leave 2pm they went nuts and was like 'jay don't leave, we love you'.. and then they started throwing negative and hateful comments to 2pm.. stop it!! you guys are hurting them. i don't know what was really going on, and i don't think any of the fans know it either, so don't act like you guys know everything.. stop being so mean and just support all seven of them... that would be better..

@AwakentheMonster 13 жыл бұрын

@yingting6136 No one knows except JYPE.

@nelly_bellyy 13 жыл бұрын

this fan who said all this like 2pm anti fan ! if she's a hard core fan , why object when junho speak!!!!!!!!!

@natluu 13 жыл бұрын

@milaminari No one had the "right" to be rude. That conference was held a day AFTER Jay's contract was terminated. During those 3 months (before termination), 2pm were still thinking Jay was going to come back. These fans are hypocrites, no one supported Jay when the myspace thing happened, and right when he left, they all started to point fingers at the boys. These "fans" had no right to be angry, they weren't there to support jay when he needed them the most.

@MzLoathsome 11 жыл бұрын

Junho says they were upset and JYP himself has said that they terminated his contract and it was a GROUP decision. I dont hate 2pm actually i knew about 2pm before jay but I never found that appealing (no hate) just honest opinion but i heard about jay and i love his music, but im jus stating what is said by the people themsevles!

@ohudushi3417 10 жыл бұрын

too good to be in 2pm?

@izzyprechii 13 жыл бұрын

@imURtpie they made that path wayyyyy too late... you know? after all the death threats and hateful words...

@Jesssweet 13 жыл бұрын

seriously i think the members and jae had it the hardest. Those fans were rude and just straight up trying to accuse them. Not even jaebum has said one bad thing about his members, telling ppl to continue to give support to the members. If i were a member at the time i might have been angry to jae for a while like they did. We dont know all the details, though its never been said exactly what jae did, something must have happened, yet the members still protected jae by not saying the reason. =)

@uyendp 14 жыл бұрын

@purplecrescent412 yeah I really want to know the truth too but we can't say that all Junho said is the truth...maybe he is forced to say like that...I still want to hear what happened from Jay....the story from both sides not one side

@CRUNCHYYRAPSUPREME 12 жыл бұрын

its wierd that they didnt let video cameras in the place.

@jomzdacara13 13 жыл бұрын

Can I ask question .. I read the full article about the official conference of 2pm. I am just kinda .. misunderstand somethings and misleading,. May I ask .. When is that " Myspace Controversy was brought to public? I mean. What date when people knew about this ? " Also .. When did Jay Park left ? What date did he left Korea? and also .. I read in the article .. 2pm and JYP said that .. Jay Park could be on 2pm after the tragedy.. but Why did he didn't comeback to Korea/2pm? thanks

@beautifulstranger101 14 жыл бұрын

@shwethazin LOLLOLLOLLOL

@ahhleeishere 13 жыл бұрын

@jujuice620 he called korea gay in 2005, people need to give him a break.

@olympusa 13 жыл бұрын

@olympusa Also. I bet that fron Jay's actions and how sweet he is for the fans, you fans could make him stay if you reached out to him. Well here you are. Couldn't make him stay because you guys turned your backs on him. Korea took it just so seriously so you as the fans turned your backs on him, not protecting him. So. Jay's out, and you don't want to blame yourselves, huh. Personally, i wouldnt want to see 2PM cryin everywhere cuz it makes me worse seeing them cry. Don't talk to junho that way

@sue97ify 12 жыл бұрын

I don't know either. what i know is, JYP want him to comeback to 2pm but he couldn't because JYPE contract with Jay has been terminated but Jay already decide by himself to left his position as leader in 2pm. sorry if it's not the answer that you want :)