[ENG] Taecyeon and Nichkhun on Jay's myspace controversy (2PM/Hottest fan meeting, 100227)

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14 жыл бұрын

TURN ON ANNOTATIONS FOR TRANSCRIPTION. Please, no bashing. What Taec meant by "no one cared" was that in the 4 days between the myspace comments leak and Jay leaving, hardly anyone (in KOREA) publicly supported Jay. Only after Jay decided to leave did people openly come out and tell him 'it's okay' and support him openly. Hottests may have cared for Jay but they did not publicly post those feelings in that 4-day time span--perhaps they were afraid of backlash; perhaps they were just trying to let the situation die-off; we don't know. Of course plenty of international Hottests supported Jay on the internet but sadly it was the voice of the KHottests that mattered.
The entire 4-hour long audio file can be found at:
www.megaupload.com/?d=J0JADPQH
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Translations of the Korean parts of the conference can be found below. I am NOT the owner of this tumblr, but I think she did a good job. Please don't bash her.
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Taecyeon and Nichkhun talking about Park Jaebeom (Jay)'s MySpace controversy at the 2PM/JYPE and Hottest fan meeting on Saturday, 2/27/10.
Good luck, Jay. I'll keep supporting you and all of 2PM, no matter what. Hottests, let's not turn our backs on 2PM when they need us the most. Junsu, Khun, Taec, Wooyoung, Junho and Chansung are still here and we need to support them too.
Audio file from oneday-room.com & omonatheydidnt@livejournal

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@amyy2436 8 жыл бұрын

I think almost all of Korean fans are crazy. Because they 're only thinking about themselves and They think that all the idols is not human and doesn't have no feeling at all.

@dustermuster8818 6 жыл бұрын

the fans are scary!!!

@laxcadk 4 жыл бұрын

100th like. eeeyyyyy

@Sa-fd7ih 2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of those EXO “fans” who said they don’t want EXO to ever get married 🙄 something’s wrong with their head 😂

@tbsfreak 14 жыл бұрын

I like how Taecyeon's reply was really honest, and i deeply respect him for that.

@cuteanddorky2pm275 9 жыл бұрын

Even though I recently became a fan of 2pm, i watch all of these shows with then together watching this made me cry. 2pm don't need to bring jay back I just wish they are still friends and that they could have a duet together.

@JKGROB 8 жыл бұрын

yes I wish for the same thing

@omonaijaj 3 жыл бұрын

Same

@jaypaulusx 11 жыл бұрын

As I was reading what Taecyeon and Nickhun were saying I just started crying. When teac said that "not even one comment said we still love you jay" that hurt me so much in many ways. I remember when I was still a new hottest and I didnt even know Jay left 2pm I thought "Oh this is gonna be forever" and stuff. And when I found out I just literally started crying. Anyways I still remain a jwalker and hottest. Both 2pm and Jay Park still and forever will have these special spot in my heart.

@pawineesarapan735 10 жыл бұрын

all of 2pm's member believe in Jay! .... Tac said " of course he will come back" ... and now he come back ... although they cannot work together but i believe they still love each other. So, I will still support both of them .... 2 PM fighting!..... Jay Park fighting!

@shee_0912sh 10 жыл бұрын

It's hurting me every time I see people blaming 2pm 'bout Jay issues. U can know just by listen to their answers in this video. It's not 2pm who doesn't care, but Knetz n fans who doesn't care, back when the controversy out. I think what they've done is right. You can never truly appreciate someone until they left. People start to think they're wrong when Jay left and accept him back to the Korean music industry. Always support 2pm and Jay!

@whynot0224 14 жыл бұрын

OMFG, you can hear the ANGER and emotions in Taec's voice when he spoke about the netizens and Jay and the whole myspace controversy. The boys all loved each other. I'm just so sad that their bond and brotherhood is destroyed like this because of something so insignificant.

@HottiiSkath 10 жыл бұрын

I so many mixed feelings about this.. I loved loved loved Jaebum when he was in 2PM but still.. I don't want him and the other guys to be hurt. I wish that the Korean fans had been a little quicker to support Jay :-( Jay is doing amazing now alone, it's not that.. It's just that you can feel he's missing in 2PM.

@marajoya8724 10 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. It's been weighing on my mind since I became a fan of 2pm only to find out about this mess (I became hottest after they split) I didn't know what to think or believe. The guys just didn't seem like they would abandon jay so easily and jay didn't seem like the type that's easily bullied.

@dhaen9396 7 жыл бұрын

This was a hurting fact about Korean fans. They didn't seem to care about these artists' feelings and just cared about what they believed in. :(

@jpoplover350 12 жыл бұрын

OMG!!! I'm happy Taecyeon was defending Jay. Taecyeon was stating "NO ONE CARED" about him because they were stating evil things about him etc.

@hobooncouch567 12 жыл бұрын

"Not even one single reply wrote 'We still love you Jay' " That broke my heart.. I found out about 2PM after Jay left, but through almost all the videos I've seen I really see and understand what Taec means. Even though he was the leader it seemed like people didn't care about him...not until he left. So I'm glad he did and is doing good by himself now. :D Jay, we still love you!

@1sweetcherrycrazy 10 жыл бұрын

Nichkhun stuttered saying I and then we wanted him to stay

@starfirechik 14 жыл бұрын

I'm so happy you uploaded this, thank you! I needed to hear the guys speak like this.

@h4o4p4e4f4u4l4 13 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the upload tecnicolorsushi. this video gave me more understanding on what they felt and think when Jaebeom left the group. 2pm and Jay hwaiting!

@ppppattycake 14 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this.

@MrsAlmightyKey 9 жыл бұрын

WOW WOW WOW that's all i can say to this because this is the first time i heard them speak out on this topic!

@suxlp 14 жыл бұрын

"I--We wanted him to stay." Khunnie, you're an angel

@XxtantalizedxX 14 жыл бұрын

Aww :( this is so sad but i really admire and respect Taec and Khun for being able to speak honestly like that and being able to still continue on. In my heart, Jay will always be a part of 2PM :D

@lovekhunchan 14 жыл бұрын

thanks so much I will support 2PM &Jay 'no matter what

@snhyy 8 жыл бұрын

now this thing happened again, junhyeok leaving day6 really bring back this memory in my mind.

@beautifulstranger101 14 жыл бұрын

oh god this made me cry.:'( WHY DID I FIND THIS VIDEO I WAS IN A GOOD MOOD

@blezeee 12 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much. I will definitely watch their videos. I started watching a few already, man oh man, I love Nichkhun ^_^ hahaha. Much appreciated for the tips, thanks again =)

@Squigglywigglypie 13 жыл бұрын

i am seriously crying from this interview:( oh jayyy.... we miss you:(

@iamberlagak 12 жыл бұрын

Wow, I never heard Taec so mad before.

@ElmoTinker 14 жыл бұрын

Taecyeon, Wooyoung, and Chansung cried like hell and Taecyeon and Nichkhun tried their best to bring Jay back. As time passed, all six members desperately wanted to bring Jay back. More months passed. We got the news that members were starting to turn their backs on Jay. The biggest shock to us was Taecyeon, since he was the one who advocated the boycott the most in the beginning. At this point, Taecyeon, Junsu, and Junho were against Jay coming back and were also against the boycott.

@taeyang4ever257 12 жыл бұрын

from this interview, i can really see their brotherly bond and i am really sad that this happen but also that they are doing the best for jay's health everyone should really look up to 2pm and support them, they been through SOOOO much yet they are still stronger and tighter as ever

@smileyfacekiddie 14 жыл бұрын

Wow, I sorta cried a bit hearing them say these things . &how much they support Jay and his decisions, makes me love how they have a really good brother type bond :) SUPPORTING 2PM FOREVERR! HWAITING!

@rhodeme 12 жыл бұрын

Wow...this has got to be the first time that I've heard taec so serious...

@aaronandguigui 11 жыл бұрын

Taecyeon and Nichkhun & Jay Forever ~

@omgimaninja1 12 жыл бұрын

I love 2pm and Jay no matter what happens! I've stuck with them since the beginning and I will forever. Jay will always be apart of 2pm; singing, dancing, doing tv shows and concerts we may not see again (or for a long while) but he's still there spiritually and in everyone's hearts!

@bbaby1428 14 жыл бұрын

2PM Fighting! :D Your fans will always be by supporting you no mater what

@maryjh3025 10 жыл бұрын

It's not only jay think Korea is gay..even my friends think that way..if jay is from us and taec it's different culture,as you can see most korean men are skinny,too skinny sometimes and wear make up..but with 2pm..I can see muscles lol it's nice to see a different side of korean men..here in us men doesn't wear make up or gaudy clothes( I mean girly clothes)taec and jay was raised in a different world..and people are easy to judge without knowing the truth and most ppl doesn't think b4 throwing hurtful words..

@Claireroxy102 10 жыл бұрын

this whole controversy is just really sad and makes me want to cry because there was so much miscommunication DD: And though Jay is doing so so well solo, I feel as if 2pm isn't complete without their short, seattle-born, leader. I wish he would go back TT^TT

@syalilin1 14 жыл бұрын

omg..hearing taecyeon voice just make me feel more sad!! jay come back to 2pm and bring laughter back to our life!!

@Jackisterr 13 жыл бұрын

I almost cried . That's how much I miss him . :c Come back Jay !

@reovalentine1468 11 жыл бұрын

i really hope 2pm can meet jay again.... :'( 2PM+Jay FIGHTING...!!!!!

@Amy95Rashid 13 жыл бұрын

When they won Best Song Of The Year during KBS 2TV Gayo DaeJun,Jusu wrote on his minihompy diary "Like a dream. I would like to thank everyone for giving us such great happiness. And when we are on stage, the cheers we hear makes our heart beats faster. Hottest, I love you. Hope 2010 will be a year when everything goes well, and 2PM will just gets hotter. JaeBum ah, this award is for us together"

@TheMissWrestlemania 13 жыл бұрын

Awe! I never knew about the my-space comment in till after he was gone. =( I actually didn't know about 2PM when this controversy a raised. Still I Support him now and hope maybe someday they could perform together again. I support 2PM too. =)

@mynameisdaisyxoxo 12 жыл бұрын

This literally made me cry.

@sian7016 8 жыл бұрын

I've never watched videos about jay leaving, but I've read comments and people made out that they gave no shits about it. then i watch this and taec sounds so annoyed and upset, then nichkhun sounds upset too. I wish I had seen this sooner

@aseelkanfer3537 7 жыл бұрын

actually after jay park left them they won an award and they said something like jaebum ( jay park's korean name ) we won and do you see that and love you that was very sad to see and they were crying , I hope they become friends again

@sian7016 7 жыл бұрын

Same but not long ago jay said he didn't keep in contact anymore

@omonaijaj 3 жыл бұрын

@@sian7016 He's said in interviews that he wishes the best for them and Twice. Honestly the fAnS mess up everything

@ohudushi3417 11 жыл бұрын

2pm better without jay, and jay better without 2pm. Really love both 2pm and jaebum

@notaperson1 13 жыл бұрын

Awww I cried when I heard nickhun and taecyeon say that they wanted jay to stay it broke my heart to hear them say that even though he chose to go they still wanted him to stay even it was the safest thing for Jay to do

@europegirlh2o 14 жыл бұрын

2pm rocks. They answered pretty well. VERY well given the circumstances.

@emmal9976 10 жыл бұрын

Everyone says really stupid stuff sometimes but everyone has a reason.

@jpgot7634 2 жыл бұрын

I still have mixed feelings about this and 2 PM - but one thing is for sure: leaving JYPE was the BEST decision that Jay Park ever made! Look at the kingdoms he's built with AOMG and H1GHR! The quality of music that he puts out! Honestly, Jay Park was WAY TOO talented to be a part of a boy band and an idol, who has to work under someone else - you could just see his passion and uniqueness wanting to break through at every moment! He just had a completely different aura about him. & Now, even idols are leaving JYPE to join his company! So proud of Jay and so glad he left to become the superstar he was meant to be! 🙌🏽

@clueless7999 2 жыл бұрын

I still doubt about this issue with 2pm....but Man!! jay had all my respect 🙏 . He is a true artist.

@daniej125 Жыл бұрын

A fan of an idol group saying this is so...interesting...to me. He was too talented to be in a boyband as an idol? Because idols in boybands aren't that talented? Lol. OK.

@jpgot7634 Жыл бұрын

@@daniej125 Don't be crazy and take things so literally. I'm saying he's SPECIAL and has NATURAL TALENT. It's harder to be a solo artist and succeed - all idols eventually want to go solo, but starting in a group creates a pathway for them and not all of them do well as solo artists. No one dreams of sharing a stage with anyone. When you're in a group, naturally some members will shine more than others - that's why we have a 'bias'. And YES - Jay Park is different than other idols and has proven that through his success. Name another idol who has accomplished what Jay Park has and then you can try talking to me. 👋🏽 And my idols would agree with me because they signed to his labels as solo artists! People who argue with random strangers on the internet like you are so weird!

@jongghyun 11 жыл бұрын

this is so sad like just from watching old videos you know how much they actually did love each other but this is the past right now... jay is amazing as a solo artist and im actually glad for him that it took him to where he is today but honestly i do still ship all of them together sob

@GoldenAngel7 14 жыл бұрын

I'll always support 2PM no matter what :D! 2PM FIGHTING

@taimon59 11 жыл бұрын

He left Korea temporarily due to the myspace issue. He was expected to return when things has calm down. He even trained for their next album when he was in exile. But later JYP found out he had done something morally wrong. So his contract was terminated. I read in 1 interview that 2PM members called him up & he confessed to his wrong doing. Until now no one knows what was it. 2PM are willing to bring the secret to their graves & they embrace all the bashing & hatred from people.

@timbjornhov5981 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was a straight up lie by JYP. JYP went on shows "beating around the bush", talking about how Jay had done something wrong but he never said what it was. JYP then publicly came at Sidus HQ for signing Jay. Sidus HQ got upset that JYP were going on shows giving excuses as to why he/they kicked out Jay, & literally asked JYP publicly to give the reason why he kicked out Jay, what it was that Jay did. JYP never did. That right there tells you how much of a bullsh*t lie it was all along, it was just a good cover up by JYP so he didn't have to explain why kicked Jay out.

@clueless7999 2 жыл бұрын

Jay didn't do anything wrong....Apart from the myspace issue...JYP....just made up...so that he is not answerable anyone....When Jay tried to forget everything and came back as an artist....JYP stoped all the varieties show from inviting Jay....later it was a good thing he got into hip-hop.....that is where the history begins....Jay park has all my respect 🤘

@Sa-fd7ih 2 жыл бұрын

JYP is such an a-hole. I like it that Jay released a diss track about him. I also like it that Jay became a hugely successful artist and CEO and collected two GOT7 members 😂 Suck it JYP!

@taimon59 11 жыл бұрын

I think some haters wanted to bring down 2PM out of jealousy coz they were v popular & successful at that time. May be plus the fact that 3 of the members were foreigners. So when they hacked Js ms, they found those msg. Bingo! They found the perfect bomb to decimate them. They thought it's the end of them. They wanted them to disband. But no, they survived. Even when J left they still hate 2PM. until today. To me 2PM is the real victim here. Not only the netizen hating them, but Js fans too.

@30.4m2 12 жыл бұрын

I'm crying while listening to this....

@minifantasy4835 14 жыл бұрын

@MzPunky i think you have the wisest reply to this video. what you said, "it was the public that stopped caring for him and then cried when he left" i find it so true. though i find this topic kind of old, it still makes me cry

@angel71611 10 жыл бұрын

only if i knew k-pop earlier :(

@a.m8565 7 жыл бұрын

were they close them 3??

@anna123rocks 7 жыл бұрын

That's what it seem like it TT^TT

@dhaen9396 7 жыл бұрын

ITBAYANEE 12 Taec and Jay were the closest. :(

@SyirahJei 4 жыл бұрын

they sme study in college too...

@untilfairtone 13 жыл бұрын

This totally made me sad. Close to tears :( live you all taec khun and jay

@NhuYLong 14 жыл бұрын

oh my god listening to this made me cry so much

@littlexcoolgirl 13 жыл бұрын

This made me tear up! i miss Jay so much! i said i would support 2PM and Jay no matter what but i cant help but wanting Jay to comeback people seriously overreacted why didnt they think of the fact that Jay was new to the environment and he barely spoke any Korean so he felt left out and frustrated thats why he wrote what he wrote. He feels a lot better now that he knows korean, and he has fans and people who love him so much. I feel soo sad right now :((( JAY PLEASE COME BACK!! WE ALL LOVE YOU!

@lyyzilla 12 жыл бұрын

i never had the heart to watch/read/hear the conference when all this shit happened , and i doing it now and holy shit i am crying like mad

@KittyNakafima 14 жыл бұрын

@Funkster228 i couldnt agree more. u said it perfectly. i am just glad he's living happily here in the US; no drama, just him doin his thing.

@scarletdania84 13 жыл бұрын

aww this makes me feel so low...again..>.< glad that Jay is back now and we can see that people still love him and I still love you Jay park! ^_^

@BassBambi 11 жыл бұрын

I do hope for that too. I just wish them to speak honestly out and be able to meet and laught together again.

@21eowyn 14 жыл бұрын

i could hear the tension and taecyeon's voice and i totally understand him feeling that way because this whole thing got blown out of porportion but they are both doing good and i wish them the best

@ahLynMC 11 жыл бұрын

i feel for you guys.. ;( it's really hard to see the band you like missing one person.. i've gone there two times.. it happened to TVXQ and it also happened to SJ.. ;(( and now I am starting to like nichkhun but what a fate , he's taking off bcoz of that accident. another sad moment to my fandom life ;(

@syazananana 13 жыл бұрын

I am crying my heart out.

@Suh6727 14 жыл бұрын

@ tootiefruities That was a fantastic explanation!

@dbkaalaiy 11 жыл бұрын

:) Hottest and Jaywalker here too. Although i know it is impossible for Jay to be in 2PM now but i really want to see them collab. Now that would be amazing!

@devilinlove08 14 жыл бұрын

stay strong 2PM! Jay, Junsu, Khun, Taec, Wooyoung, Junho, Chansung. i'm with you. i always will.

@Deeannicasayswhaaful 13 жыл бұрын

Ok, I wanna freaking cry now guys. I freaking love Jay, I'm so upset that he left.

@princessViolet1602 12 жыл бұрын

omg. my heart is broken while listening to taec explanation. taec loves jay so much. i mean everybody in 2PM loves jay. but taec is the most. i can feel that taec was trying his hard to hold himself from crying when he explain it. TT TT TT TT

@L33L33BOI 14 жыл бұрын

Everything is calmed down now. I'm happy to know that this situation is in the past now:D I now understand deeply about what this conference had to do. Just wished I had understood it earlier:/ I don't hate 2PM because of this anymore. I'm a JayWalker and a Hottest:D Love&Respect both!

@adelepenguin13 13 жыл бұрын

this is sooo sad! i want to cry ='[ taecyon and nichkhun still love jay! and you could see that

@glidah39 14 жыл бұрын

Omg, thank you. I don't know why this part hasn't been mentioned in any of the articles I've read. This clearly states that they still care. I guess people just want 2PM's career to crash and burn. -____-

@mzlil 10 жыл бұрын

thank you

@025general 14 жыл бұрын

I think 2PM and Jay are now moving on for the better. They should not look at the past anymore because it will just hurt them (I don't want them to be hurt). I just hope that they can see the great future that they still have... And for the fans of 2PM, let's just support them in whatever they are doing... Big love for 2PM and for Jay!!!

@meiyao2PMrocks 12 жыл бұрын

Listening to this always makes me want to cry!I feel so sry to Jay and the rest of 2PM!They didnt deserve to have to go throught this!They are sweet kind hearted boys!I love 2PM when there was 7, but I think that doing what is best for all is what matters!I didnt know about 2PM when this happened so I feel bad! I feel all the time that if I had I could be at least someone who could have given Jay alittle comfort! I

@NicoleH73 12 жыл бұрын

Jay is a talented gifted individual who will continue to shine. Everything in this life happens for a reason. Its really sad when your 'own' turn on you. I wish Jay continued success.

@IrisC357 12 жыл бұрын

Awwww. I still supported him! D;

@SheMakeItGoBOOM 12 жыл бұрын

This Made Me Cry , Sad . i Reaally Love Jaebeom .

@BELINDALOVESANIME 14 жыл бұрын

sigh~ my heart breaks just hearing this. if you think about it, jay sacrificed himself for his members and his fans. he didn't want his members to get hurt for his own actions, so he left, hoping to spare them from the hurt and to protect them. I still love 2pm regardless of what's going on because I know that the 2pm members really love each other in a brotherly way and would do almost anything for each other. 2pm fighting! thx for uploading!

@dingbimbo 13 жыл бұрын

I miss you jay, 2PM with 7 members were truly the best. i miss you, not that im hating 2PM. i just miss these 7 people that i truly believe complete each other. and i cant believe after like 1 year this incident happened, i still can cry over this. today, is where 2PM's still 2PM album's out. i really miss jay in 2PM

@firedog86119 13 жыл бұрын

It makes my heart hurt so much when Taec speaks about no one caring about Jay......

@filencia105 14 жыл бұрын

whatever happened in the past, doesnt changed the fact that Jay will always be a part of 2pm in my heart.

@aienefjaei 11 жыл бұрын

2013...I'm still hurt...I still believe that he'll be back no matter what

@did3428 14 жыл бұрын

@angelbabiswty, you are definately right. I WAS a huge fan of 2PM before I listen to their whole conversations that lasted for 4 hours. This is only a small part of that. I was really disappointed at all 2PM members about how they can betray Jay like that ... I mean I don't know what is Jay's "private life" they are talking about, but before JYP officially reveal that, I never forgive 2PM.

@matchalatte73 12 жыл бұрын

ikr? i love all the members of 2PM

@Jucaixia 14 жыл бұрын

Jae Bom, Junsu, Nichkhun, Taecyeon, Wooyoung, Junho, Chansung Fighting!!! Don't feel discouraged, DO YOUR BEST!!!

@smilesmileba 14 жыл бұрын

2PM Fighting!!! Jay and AOM Fighting!!! Love...Support... สู้ต่อไป....อย่าได้ท้อ... ยิ่งเจออุปสรรคมาก...เรายิ่งแข็งแกร่ง...คิดในแง่ดีไว้ ชีวิตก็แบบนี้ เอิ้กๆ

@Userdefined2011 14 жыл бұрын

a lot of people care and still love him

@zooieyaj04 14 жыл бұрын

aw...that is so sad and sweet! of course he's gonna come back!

@lilswt99 11 жыл бұрын

Hearing this press conference again makes me feel sad. 2:11 is just heart breaking...

@7fateroses 11 жыл бұрын

It's been years but I can still remember how hard it was to see Jay go off.. For me, that was the most bizarre issues in Kpop I've known so far.. I still can never understand why he didn't come back but then he's doing well now and I've moved on.

@Jucaixia 14 жыл бұрын

It's so sad that this is happening. I mean their just human, like everyone else. I was also reading it on Allkpop and apparently they still communicate with Jae and are still his friends. I wish Jae could be part of this because not hearing it first hand is how rumours and gossiping starts.

@nurannisazolkipli 13 жыл бұрын

we will never know whether they contact one another..whatever it is, i support both of them..great artists, great music

@ChOlEy1454 13 жыл бұрын

i feel so sad after seeing this video...TAECYEON sounds so hurt and sad must've been hard for him...seems like he was really close to JAY....but at least they're still strong as ever FIGHTING TAECYEON and NICHKHUN!!!

@dansingai 13 жыл бұрын

@Crimson121 From what I heard... After he came to Korea for JYP training, he wasn't enjoying it that much cos he was still learning Korean and he had new responsibilities, so, as most people do, he left a comment on his MySpace announcing it to a friend. Years later some people brought it up and eventually the anti fans got so bad and the articles written about it were so horrible that Jay felt he had to leave 2PM.

@whiterosekk 13 жыл бұрын

Finally Jay is back so I really love him because he is still talented

@NURULARISHABDULHALIM 12 жыл бұрын

i really really agree with you ~

@Bev4Drawing 12 жыл бұрын

I love Taec and Khun so much more from this interview. ^-^

@elmirasahar 14 жыл бұрын

i think that the fans should knw that this happens to all bands no matter what, all bands have to disband at some point though none of us want to accept it. Of course im devastated that Jaebum left, but he's an adult so we should continue to support his actions.