How can a country do this knowing the track record of US, that's why I like the Chinese approach of begging, borrowing or stealing. They never compromise on national interest. We need to learn a lot from China.

That's why we need to focus on kaveri engine program on war level situation

Stopping Kaveri engine development was the biggest mistake...now paying price

We need a successful kaveri engine otherwise such type of delay tolleret our defence structure . I hope gov of India and defence minister take it seriously

India should always keep it mind that USA may blackmail India. Any country may blackmail india but USA and its NATO ally shall certainly do it.

It was the stupidest idea to procure the GE Engines, given the treacherous record of the USA. We should have had an alternative. And we need to rejuvenate the Kaveri Engine programme with full funding.

Never invest in US assets. They will cripple your fighting capavility😅

GE janbhooj kar delay kar raaha hai ,taaki sahi time par production agar hi gayi to export market khul jayegi,TEJAS ke liye

I agree with the point that RD33 ko imtegrate kr lena chahiye, induct bhale na krein but backup is must. And uske chalte ye US waale bhaag k supply badhayege 😅

US will never provide you the engine technology and required engine on time. US wants india blindly get in its side.😂

Best and fullproof option is to giving funds for kaveri engine....

Glad and Happy with systematic series of video on this delay issue.

America kabhi bhi hume Airo engine technology nahi dega.. toh ab Bharat ko Russia se technology leni chahiye.. otherwise America hume kahin ka nahi chhorega..

Mai to 5 saal se bol raha hu US aapke Tejas ko delay karwayega....russia se le lo engine. Maintenance mangta hai to kar lena bhai

GE 414 engine to tejas mk2, amca, Tedbf me use karna hai. 100kn wala engine ka replacement abhi se start kar dena chahiye

India should cancel the Boeing deal for 250 commercial planes

If US is deliberately slowing up things then RR & French will be a no show as well.

The best options available to the IAF are 1. Kaveri should be developed on a war-footing from the office of the PMO down to HAL, with heavy investment and rigid time lines. It would also be worthwhile bringing in the expertise of a few retired engineers who have worked with Rolls Royce or GE engines. 2. To seal an immediate long term partnership with RR for Tejas single engine and AMCA models.

This is a common sense, india know how USA is.......can't they think of having backup in their design for other engines..

Liberals but but US is our friends 😂😂😂

I will be very surprised if the government does not have a plan B. That would show extremely poor planning. Even a dog on the street knows that trusting anyone w/o a plan b & c if possible is foolishness.

AMCA in Danger because USA engine 😢

थोड़े नंबर में RD33 लेकर US को pressurize करना सही लग रहा है. ईस्तेमाल नहीं हुए तो पड़ोसी को बेच डालेंगे उनके रूहानी तैयारे के लिये 😂 On a serious note Kaveri is the only answer.

Now we know how imp was kavari engine...

No.we must spend more on r& d to develop our own world class engines 5G fighter aircraft indigenously.

This is how the US will arm twist India whenever they want. They have enough of the GE 404 engine to supply Korea for their T50 , but they will play a delay card with India only. The deal of GE404 and GE414 will cost India in a long run and it will definitely delay the project of Tejas, Tedbf, Tejas mk2 and AMCA. Even if we sign local manufacturing of GE414, still for the core components we will have to be dependent on US and they will again play delay game and will push for the sale of F35 to India to sabotage AMCA project. India seriously needs to look for alternatives. Make Kaveri good enough to generate enough thrust for Tejas. Start working on plans to have EJ 2000 of Royal Royce as a substitute for GE414. Depending on the US for all of our fighter engines is just like keeping all eggs in the same basket. It's gonna be a huge mistake if we cannot find alternatives as soon as possible. The government, Airforce, GTRE and HAL need to stop blaming games and start working on alternatives.

Only option is Kaveri engine

Jab tak Kaveri engine sahi se nahi bnta, koi na koi backstab krta rhega. Ek bar Kaveri engine sahi se ban gya, foreign companies ki jarurat hi nahi pdegi

Using the russain Engine is better than having no engine at all, beggars can't be choosers. It shouldn't matter at this point if the IAF doesn't like it, you don't have an option until you create your own.

Aap video banao and explain karo "Kese India 272 Sukhoi-30Mki purchase kar li but 114 Rafale order mei itna jhik jhik.

, im so stressed about this situation...its so frustrating. It really hurts the credibility of USA and GE. Even for f414, we should either demand for 100% ToT(looks impossible tbh) or RR/saffran/ or dedicated new indigenous program for 100kn+ engine for Amca mrk1, tejas mk2 and TEDBF. Probably will add some more delays but the result will be the best for our country. We can use Russian engine for some time. And then replace them with our own. Squadron strength is important but we can't be over dependent on usa.

So the bottom line is we are nalyak indian engineers, nalyak politician, in 75 years we did nothing

Asa koi saga nahi jisko America na thaga nahi.

PMO still won't wake up for the engine program

We should give heavy fines to GE for not supplying engines on time. Even after repeated delays.

I don't understand this argument that IAF doesn't like Russian when almost half of IAF fleet fly on russian engine. On top of that IAF has its apprehension of US fighter jet just because they are from US but IAF is ok with US engine. HAL already producing RD-33MK for Mig-29K , it should not only just considered but also the alternative of Kaveri not GE-404.

No matter who is ruling india ...US can fool you any time....

India should search for other engines , instead of relying for engines on single country . India should try to develop kaveri engine as soon as possible ......

Indian government should put kaveri engine program under pmo and give retired air india Boeing 747 as a test bed (so in future indigenous high bypass turbofan engine can also be tested ) and give some fund to create high altitude testing facilities.we can't trust America for our fighter jet program.

This is tactics to decouple Bharat rassian relations by US.

Cancel karo inka contract with penalty, make own engine Or joint manufacture Sukhoi with Russia….

If I am not wrong, then we are going for local production of F414 engines for mk2. Hope such things will not happen with mk2.

Perhaps India should design Mk 1 A engine casing in such a way that it can accomodate GE 404,E J 200, as well as Safran engine. So that India have option in critical times even when the engine supplier tries to be fishy.

देसी कावेरी इंजन के अलावा और कोई उपाय नहीं है,,, हम strategic autonomy को रखते हुए दूसरे देशों पर निर्भर नही कर सकते है,,, हमे अपने इंजन पर ध्यान देना होगा,,,रूस s400 की डिलीवरी नही कर पा रहा है,,, frigates की डिलीवरी भी पेंडिंग है,,, ak203 के spares में delay चल रहा था,,,, हमने इससे पहले खुद को fifth gen fighter aircraft program से भी हटा लिया था,,, रूस का इंजन कहां से समय पर मिल पाता,,,

Imagine what'll happen to Tejas Mk2, TEDBF, ORCA and AMCA. 😢 They'll all face similar if not worse problems.

Jai Shree Radhe Krishna 🙏🙏🧡 Jai Bharat Rashtra 🙏🙏🧡

Other options than GE F-414 Al 31F Al 41 series EJ 200 Permanent option: quickly seal the deal with RR and make the AMCA engine, with a variant for single engine application on Tejas Mk2

Rajnath as defence minister is responsible for the fiasco and has shown ineptitude and lack of vision in neglecting Kaveri engine. He should have pushed for the acceleration of the certification and upgrade of Kaveri . The media buffoons in BJP , Congress of Chinese and otter foreign hand never hold politicians to account on the relevant critical issues. The situation is quite grim.

This was very very expected. We should have never stopped our engine program. If this doesn't awaken our ministers to restart a full paced development of Kaveri engines, we ought to fail as a nation.

still we are not learning from our mistakes.....we should start funding engine development in all shorts like tanks, submarine, ships, and fighter jet

Itne timelime miss ho gye aaj tk HAL aur DRDO ka alternative to dhundha nhi gya.. GE ka dhundhenge. Itna hi late ho rha tha to itne saal me FOC ko mk1A pe upgrade kr deta na HAL💁🏻‍♂️

Bro , can u please make a video on why we didn't try to make a twin engine fighter jet using kaveri engines when we got to know that KAVERI is not able to produce the desired 90+ kn of thrust that IAF wanted. I mean kaveri can produce 70kn of afterburning thrust. 2 kaveris can produce 140kn This way we could have had a backup fighter jet to fill our squadrons while simultaneously working on better engines. Please share your thoughts .

India ko aage le kar jana hai to 2 kaam krne he padenge nahi to bas sab aise he chalta rahega 1. Existing govt jobs ko privatize kar do 2. Govt jobs khatam kar do Jabtak ye nahi hota, aise he sab chalta rhega. Na time se Kaveri aa payega aur na he AMCA ya TEDBF.

Launch the ORCA twin engine jet program *NOW* - with 2 x Kaveri instead of 2 x F414. That way even if the Kaveri engine turns out to be slightly underpowered, it can still be used in the ORCA by keeping the aircraft's overall weight a bit lower. The reduction of about a ton of reinforced landing gear material from TEDBF will do just that. Thrust to weight ratio with 2 x Kaveris eill still be high. Do not end up in the same position as the MK1A where foreign suppliers can play these delaying games. A good aircraft (ORCA) with an average indigenous engine (Kaveri) is infinitely than a good aircraft (MK1A, MK2, TEDBF, AMCA) with no engine (F414) !

For a program this big where billions are involved there must be a contingency plan .......right HAL......right?... Right na??? GOI should also not get a free pass here...like they didn't know the US can do this at its will !

Have been waiting for this video from you for 2 years ! even now we would be better off NOT relying on American / British engines. They never want India to become powerful & violate their dictates !

US is up set Modi is romancing with Putin. So it stopped supplying US made engines to india😂

Jo problems hum aaj face kr rhe he isko lekar back up plans pehle sehi envisaged kyu nhi kiye gya jabki hume pehle sehi ye situation ko maan kr iska alternative option bi pehle sehi sochna chahiye tha beshak humari IAF ko Russian engine pasand nhi he pr Tejas without engine se to ye Russian engine equipped tejas hume kuch to punch de hi deta ab agr ye Tejas program further delay hua to US ka to kuch nhi bigadega pr humari IAF ka kuch bi nhi bachega considering ki MRCA program nowhere in sight he abi tk usme koi bi progress nhi hui he uppr se mig21 ke saath saath Jaguars aircraft ke phased out hone ka time bi aagya he to ayse me hume jiska dar tha pehle se exactly vehi situation aagyi he matlab saaf he ki IAF ab near future me PAF se bi zaida downsize force banne ja rhi he thanks to the Farsighted vision of our Air headquarters genius.

Yahi problem hoti hai agar khud ka engine Na Ho I am also worried about AMCA. If our Kaveri engine has been made they just integrate with Tejas mark 1 these engines can also be used in AMCA

It was expected , as the Supply chain was broken, However it will be better to concentrate, to develop indigenous options. In the future the USA will ditch to derail Tejus as well as AMCA program.

Am sure US will pose similar obstacles in 414 engines also…… not a reliable country….. we must explore other options

Russian engine ke saath 2 issues hai... 1. Uski life span 2. Fuel consumption. Dono point ko consider kare toh Tejas ka operational cost kaafi badh jayega.

Subodh rd33 engine is not very efficient so IAF avoid it. But we can go for rd33-MK variant with full digital control, no smoke(plasma ignition) and 4000 hours life. Mig29k has 70% availability with this engine(after 2019) It also has 7% increased thrust. And one more thing that jf17 use Rd-93 engine and not rd33. RD-93 is licence variant for china and china modified it with disaster engineering(shifted gear box and engine casing to different place) and decreasing it's life from 4000 hours to only 2200 hours as told by pakistan.

India must develop a state of the art jet engine... It's time to be independent...

Even Boeing 747 Dreamliner uses both GE and RR engines. Tejas can do the same as well. RR is willing to do complete tech transfer and setup plant in India. India should take up this offer. Do the same with RD33 and Safran as well. Let everyone manufacture in India. Competition means no one can take advantage.

बिना मरे स्वर्ग नहीं मिलता अपना इंजन जब तक डेवलप नहीं करेंगे समस्या समाप्त नहीं होगी। सारा ध्यान अपना स्वदेशी इंजन डेवलप करने में लगाना चाहिए। कोई देश नही चाहता कि आप इंजन उससे लें और उनसे अच्छा फाइटर जेट बना कर उनके मार्किट को डेंट पहुंचाए।

US par bharosa kiya ja hi nahin sakta. Mujhe to lagta hai ki abhi se hume alternative dhundhna chahiye. Jitna late karenge utni hi problem hogi.

Isko problem na dekh kr opportunity dekho or govt. par iaf or gtre ko pressure banana chaiye ki kaveri ko fund karo testing facility or shi fund agar mil jaye to kaveri engine ka afterburner banane mai jyada dikkat nhi ayegi

You are matured when you know fighter plane doesn't have engine but engine have fighter plane.

India should take the help of foreign retired engine experts to enhance the performance of our Kaveri engines and remove its shortcomings for its faster development.

India should go for another engine even if GE starts its supply in September..

India should launch a national project to develop aeroplane engines. It must be a high priority project, and must operate like ISRO, and create a complete range of engines! It will need massive investments and must be done on priority

अमरीका के रिकॉर्ड को देखते हुए बैक अप रखना चाहिए था आपने सही कहा।

When India is talking about Global supply chains, why do we fear Rolls Royce supply chain? Afterll its Rolls Royce that's making engines for Airbus Orders given by Indian aviation industry? - Also Rolls Royce has a aero engine setup recently at Tamil nadu to meet its global supply chain. - Rolls Royce deal, with Pounds- Rupees exchange at slow pace, for the new Single- Exhaust deeivative, in 3 yrs will pave way for Tejas Mk2 also ! Why can't India think & work in this direction? - Also, Euro typhoon offer for MRFA is there with ToT. Why can't we engage with them for tejas mk1A....Also what stupid Single-family engine dependency with most unreliable partnr have we engaged ingo... Sovereignty & Strategic Autonomy is all compromised.

Alpha defense ka jo opening bullet shot ka sound hai whi Trump ko aaj IRL sunai diya😂

Excellent analysis on the options available...sir can u make a video on rolls royce's offer for amca engine

साला अमेरिका के मामले में भारतीय लोग हमेशा सही राय रखता हैं सिवाय सरकार के कई बार लगता हैं की जो स्पीड निर्णय लेने में और किस देश पर विश्वास रखना हैं उसके मामले में सरकार हमेशा मात खाती हैं।

its not backstabbing.. but planning failure on HAL/ADA part.. when critical components like jet engines are driven by geopolitical headwinds and when they don't have an inhouse alternative ready, multiple parallel vendors should have been engaged from the beginning of Tejas program. for eg. 3 variants of Tejas one on GE, other on Snecma or Rolls Royce and third on a Russian engine. I understand that it would have been a tad expensive, but still less expensive than having to buy off the shelf aircrafts directly to fill gaps in squadron numbers. Hope this is a lesson learnt for future and other ongoing programs.

Aaj tak kabhi aisa nahi hua ….jime US ne kisi bhi deal ko delay kar k arm twist karne ki koshish nahi ki …..fir India jike 75 saal ho gaye hain ….itne badi nausikhiya harkat kaise kar sakta hai ????

This is good news for india in long run even if they not learn ‘ it is destined to happen

Hum log itne "husiyaar" hai ke hum America pe bharosa kiya Jaise ke US hamara dost Hai. Sab kch janta huye agar babu aur avtaari purush mantriji aise decision le to kaun gadja hai ? Aur ab dusre desh bhi hamari condition ka fayda uthayenge

Thanks for the detailed analysis - I am a regular follower of this channel. Keep up the good work....

*India should strongly focus on indigenously develop Fighter Jet Engines instead of going with USA*

Agree with ur suggestion of integrating a Russian Engine. Given a choice of having Mk1A at all or not the IAF will choose the former

Over 3 decades back we made the mistake of going with GE engine. This actually resulted in French team leaving the LCA program. This resulted in huge delay in the program.

Is vishwasghaat ki saza milegi..barabar milengi

Good reporting. Must go with Indigenous Kaveri project accelerations. Forget outside sources. Better off with slight compromise but self reliant

Apparently, the US is pushing India to point out where India should select US options for its MMCA Program

Very simple answer...... Develop your own engine...... Don't be a beggar .

Charam Charam Charam hai leftist laal salam naukarshaahi kii. 25 mai bharti hote hai, or 62 mai retire hote hai ussi project ke saath.

Right from beginning I had doubts on this deal and now it has come true. I wonder why HAL is hell bent on using GE engines??? Like you said HAL should try it with RD 33 Russian engines. Keeping the present geopolitical situation in mind, will GE be allowed to fulfill its commitment, there is question mark.

This also shows light on poor management and planning aspect of DPSU's. No one is saying like everyone working in DPSU's are kaamchors. But they work in silos without any proper management in sight.

Kaisa laga. Mqzak . Maine pahle hi bola tha . USA ko pata sal suka hain tejas ke capabilities..... 😂

I just saw a video by Sandep Unnithan on a bullpup version of Insas, which claimed to have been designed by an Indian Army Officer. Any thing on that?

How stupid are we to keep relying on US for our defence needs?

They can ground most our navy ships too ,our big people doesn't seriously doesn't want to develop India into a big power

Esi liye indigenous technology aur systems etane important hote hai....

The best option is that India sanction additional funding for Kaveri mk -2 with 90kn thrust & also ask DRDO GTRE to simultaneously work on Kaveri mk-3 with 110kn thrust. Else Tejas mk-2 and AMCA will suffer the same fate relying on American or British engines & TOT. Else India starts condemning & sanctioning Russia to appease WEST if Modi lacks Vision & will to stand.

We should have started developing engine with Safran or Rolls-Royce side by side

We need to talk with Russia for aircraft engine technology transfer