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I’m confused about battery chargers. I have a Minn Kota that’s fairly new and designed for AGM . I’m told it’s capable of charging lithium. Any thoughts?

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Fantastic!

Absolutely

70lb thrust...thanks I should have mentioned it.

Right on!

How are you measuring the SOC?

I have a minkota Terova 45 thrust on a 16ft aluminum how long would a 100ah battery last on the water using spot lock frequently?

​@@KushmannBeats That depends on if you are spot locked in current, wind or a calm pond....

Buy a noco 4 bank charger they have the lithium setting and are far superior to most chargers on the market at a fraction of the cost of others

That's all absolutely true.

I think so.

The video is only 7 months old so the batteries have most like held up pretty good so far with no noticeable difference. I have these same batteries and they don’t degrade quickly at all. A follow up in 2-4 years would be useful

I struggled on that decision....but the cost of a 24V waterproof charger made up my mind.

The have been the best addition to the boat in a long time. I just picked up two 100Ah Mini's for the small lake boat. See the video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pceHqbRqqdenlIU.html

I have a link for the charger in the Amazon store, look under Boating and Fishing gear

Kool beans dude ✌✌✌ thanks again 🤙🤙Moe

One more question.... what plug is that ... that your plugging the extension cord to on your boat??? I like your set up and going to do something very similar 👍👍👍

Thanks for the tips!

I think they did a bit of borrowing

I used uv epoxy as glue so I did not clamp them.

I agree with almost everything you wrote, even going barbless, but the catch 2000? 😄

That lure???. I don't have any idea how it catches so many fish. It has no action. It barely looks like a real mullet. They DRILL it. Reel super slowly. When you think you're reeling slowly enough.... reel SLOWER ! ! Twitch one full crank. Twitch... one full crank. Even in this clip. 6:09 You had a lure that I hit pause and zoomed in... I think you called it a sardine bait. Looks very much the same. Catch 2000 looks like it but smaller. The real difference in sinking twitch baits is their sink rate. Catch 2000 is very shallow running. 52-M is 4'-7'..... but it the same... twitch one full crank twitch.... I am a big believer that ALL lures work and work WELL. So what makes or breaks a lure for me??? Is ....how easily does it cast and reel and cost. I can chunk those Mirrolures.... They are sturdy. I've caught a 100 trout on the same lure several time .... covered in battle scars. Those pull a tear sometimes when I lose them. Hee hee hee. They're CHEAP by comparison. $10 - ish. Now days some are north of $30... I liked all your lures.... but some of them? I can tell some are heavy to retrieve. My arms get tired. Yeah, I know. "Do some push-ups!" If I'm fishing all day....(Which your trolling motor information will come in handy to do in the future... FOR SURE).... I wanna use lures that cast heavy but real light. Best example? Whopper Plooper. Great lure. Casts far. Great action.... My hands and arms hurt after 30 minutes. Believe me.... All I need to see was about 1/2 of the fishing part of this clip to see.... you don't need any help from me. You have years of experienceand it shows.... But the barbless part. I had to rip a hook out and a 2nd time was a $250 ER trip....To and ER where I WORKED. Embarrassing.... That was 20 years ago. I've never had a barbed lure on my boat again. I've had numerous mishaps..... barbless saved me. I Hobie kayak fish and 12' plastic boat with a 9.9 and all my friends have boats like yours. If you fish 50-70x a year ...Slinging lures and catching fish flopping around... A loose hook will find you. Anyway.... I'm about to sub after I send this diatribe. Good luck.

I'll like the idea it saves space. The 24V is smaller than 2 12V batteries. But you need a 24V charger

If you love the ocean we have thousands of miles of coats in this beautiful country...find ya a spot😉

It depends on the size of the lure and the size of the fish it's intended for. Use the material that works well for you. There are a lot of so called lure making rules but if something works for you...go with it.

I was concerned about the fit of the 24V and the cost of a 24V charger.

Much more flexible this way too

You should be fine with both.

I would not use their chargers, they're not really meant for the marine environment, and chargers are not really "their thing". All the Li charger makers recommend either a single two port charger or individual chargers, (12v or 24v) I used two chargers and it works perfect. The batteries have their built in BMS that will shut things down if the chargers do something way out of sorts. The risk is having one charger fail and unbalancing the battery bank. But that won't be the end of the battery. A 24v charger is a good way to go too...but a bit more expensive.

The chargers work independently and keep them within a couple of tenths of a volt. Yes the batteries stay connected in series. I can monitor the charge when the charger is plugged in using bluetooth

@@EngineeredAngler Ah, now I understand why you had two chargers. Makes total sense and avoids having to worry about a balancer. Presumably the chargers have isolated outputs, and connecting them up that way obviously worked fine.

Both the large version and the mini 100Ahr batteries have the same deliverable energy. I would go with the mini to save space. In fact I'm going to put two of them in my boat when I've repaired everything.

@@EngineeredAngler thanks for the info, good evening

Still like new.

I plug the chargers into the power at home. With a full charge I can go fishing several times before needing to charge up.

@@EngineeredAngler oh I see your not charging them out on the water, I sent for a 60ah only because I'm going to charge it from my motor hoping I can do it straight from the motor without taking an inverter and charger

According to the manual they are cold charge protected and won't charge below 32 deg.

@@EngineeredAngler I saw a KZfaq video but I can’t remember who it was that would take the tops off of the batteries and test them and check build quality. I do remember on that battery because I bought four of them 100 amp hour that he said, they did not have freeze temp protection. I would not trust a Chinese translation in a manual. I don’t know how I could test it without taking it apart and test the circuit board because you can use the battery at freezing temperatures so it’s not like you can measure an open circuit if you put it in the freezer and measured across the positive and negative post?

​@@ant2400yes! A guy does a you tube video about the cold change protection! But it's a little bit battery than the one he is showing, not to ugly or anything. The battery he's showing is just under 300, but the other 100 ah battery is like 365, and it advertises 12.8 v on the battery itself.

Most every new marine battery charger has a setting for lithium. I like the Genius brand of chargers, good quality at a reasonable price.

Yes i know...I was using the voltage chart supplied by the manufacturer to get a general idea.

I've never heard that...and its sounds wrong. But I'm not sure. Either way they better make some changes...lithium will definitely be the standard for trolling motors.

I wish I could share pages or screenshots with you and I agree with you..here is an exact quote from minn kotas website: “Power Output Lithium Batteries maintain higher voltages for longer. Motors engineered to make the most of flooded lead acid batteries can be damaged by the higher power output. To prevent this damage when using Lithium batteries you should not run your motor at its highest speeds, staying at 85%/Speed 8.5 or lower.”

I fish in a river bass club and many of us run lithiums now. Due to the current, we nearly always run our trolling motors on speeds above 8. Nobody has had any issues. I've been running these same batteries on my Ultrex for over a year now and they have been flawless.

This is some good information you guys are sharing thank you. All of this stuff is over my head. I am trying to buy a set up at the end of the season so I can be ready next spring. There is a large lake in Reservoir out here that's pretty much called as glass most days. Electric motors only I was thinking of getting one of those 4-man rafts and putting a trolling motor on the back. The company said to go with a 35 lb thrust which will produce or use about 350 w an hour. I'm wondering if one of these 100-amp batteries would be enough. I'm only thinking of three or four hours and mostly getting to a spot about a mile or two from the boat ramp and sitting not having it Go the whole 3 hours. I was even considering a solar panel that would be on the roof I would make that would maybe charge the battery while I'm sitting a little bit. Any ideas guys on a decent setup

​@Etec86 Exactly 💯 all the top pros and weekend fisherman run lithium battery's now days! I just ordered 2 I hope they are worth the switch 🙏

You need to know what your amp draw is . So if your system draws a steady 10 amps it will run 10 hours on a 100 amp hour battery.

They have a mini version now. I'll be getting one for my Jon boat.

I'm thinking that because a lot of RV batteries are being used these days, there must be a difference between the ebike ones and the larger bulk batteries. Just as there are with laptop batteries. Yes you hear about one once and awhile but there are so many electronic devices out there with this type of battery that it is pretty rare.

Different chemistry!

Lifepo4 is the battery chemistry he was using in this video. Not the same as as lithium ion which are known to burst into flame. Lifepo4 stands for Lithium Iron Phosphate.

@@awesomewade21 Still makes me nervous, not time tested enough to give me peace of mind. I hear you that this is a different battery, but there's been several more E-bike fires and deaths in NYC alone, since my original post. Call me paranoid I guess.

@@thegoods2240 Well, they actually are time-tested pretty well. LiFePO4 has been the go-to battery chemistry for an enormous array of applications for years... over a decade. It just isn't as well known for mobility because most mobility devices use NMC (or worse NCA) lithium-polymer chemistries. LiFePO4 has somewhat lower energy density. The voltages are lower and the voltage also settles down into the 3.4V range after charging is complete. The electrolyte breakdown voltage is still way the heck up at 4.6V, and the chemistry liberates oxygen during a runaway at 1/100th the rate that NMC does. It is really very difficult for LiFePO4 to catch fire. LiFePO4 is not nearly as sensitive to over-voltage or over-charging that NMC or NCA is. The cells can still be damaged if they are over-discharged (the BMS prevents that but leaving a discharged battery on the shelf for months will still destroy it from self-discharge). It's a very robust chemistry. In terms of the risk, it isn't zero. LiFePO4 can still run away, and its even possible for it to catch fire. But that is very, very rare and even if it happens you don't get explosive fires like you do with NMC or NCA. LiFePO4 run-aways typically just result in a lot of (toxic) white smoke, but no actual fire. -Matt

Your both thinking of the old style lithium ion

I was using a chart supplied by the manufacturer that relates charge level to battery capacity.

Its close but your right not 100% accurate.

​@@EngineeredAnglerYour meter is probably not that accurate 10amp hrs in 10hrs of fishing just doesn't sound right!

@@EngineeredAngler You can figure it out by determining how many amp-hours the charger(s) had to put back into the battery at the end of the day, and subtracting from 100. Those tables basically don't work... the discharge curve is too flat and a LiFePO4 battery will hold its voltage extremely well almost all the way to 90% discharged before going exponential.

I fish two and three say tournaments, now I don't need to worry about recharge.

@Engineered Angler Lures no you don't, but I'm sure you're like me, and are always going to have your batteries topped off

Do you use the 50AH ?

@@basshunter7631 I do, 2 50ah to a 24v TM. Usbtime brand. The 50ah is equal to a 100ah lead in the run time(or real close)

​@@clintfulbright1596if you don't mind me asking for some of this good information. I retired from the fire department after 35 years and I am living about 2 miles from a reservoir and Lake that's about 100 acres. I was thinking about getting one of those for man rafts and then electric motor 35 lb thrust. I like what you're saying about the battery so I was thinking 2:50 amp hours what would be a good 24 volt motor and do you see any reason why that wouldn't get me through three or four hours of fishing on a calm lake? I was also considering putting a solar panel on the top of the little roof I was going to build to maybe put some energy back in while I'm sitting just in case. The vendor I called about the 30 lb thrust electric motor was rated at 350 watts of usage I guess per hour but I don't know if that was a 12-volt or 24-volt

Not really