Tricia Helfer is an amazing actress. Each separate version of Six is recognizable by behavior, etc.

The swing from elation at seeing a second Battlestar to the low of the realization of the character of her crew is a wild ride.

I just want to say that the actor who played Thorne was a true gentleman with Grace. They communicated very strongly with each other about boundaries, how comfortable she was with every aspect of the filming.

So, without any spoilers, the story of Pegasus is flushed out quite a bit more in the movie Battlestar Galactica: Razor. The movie, although released after the third season, is set chronologically after watching Season 2 episode 17 and 18.

The hardest episode in the entire series. Kane got zero information with torture and pain. Adama got tons of information with humane treatment. 🌻

It's fascinating to watch you going from joy to suspicion to rage on a single episode, just like I did 20 years ago. And reminding of Guantanamo Bay was exactly their purpose: this episode was released just about 4 years after 9/11, the memory was still very fresh in memory at the time.

Allways blown away by Tricias performance. And beeing her first big gig. Wow. And she is an absolute sweetheart at cons 😍

So this is an element partially lifted from the original series. That also featured a second BattleStar Pegasus which was lead by a war like Admiral Caine (played by Lloyd Bridges if I recall), this is just done in a much darker fashion

I am always blown away by y’all’s humanity. I knew this would be a tough one. I’m so sorry for what’s been done to you. And I’m so proud of who yall are on this show for being able to and wanting to discuss what needs to be discussed when such powerful subjects are depicted in a show.

This is another one of those episodes where you have to acknowledge some amazing acting from the cast. Damn.

Thank you. I know the two of you do not judge gender, sex, orientation, etc... But the fact that you explicitly stated it, as a fellow survivor (who has been torn apart multiple times by women when calling myself a survivor), again, thank you.

Yes, what was shown in the show was not real. And it is worth noting that actor that played LT. Thorne was very uncomfortable in the scene, and made sure that Grace Park did not feel abused.

You two as well, thanks for hanging in there. And thank you for being willing to discuss the show in the context of our, ofttimes, far too real world.

You're about to experience arguably the best two episodes of BSG ever.

Ensign Ro clearly learned how to be an Admiral from Star Trek. That's why she went crazy like Starfeet Admirals always seem to.

Just want to see the excitement of seeing Ro turn to the hatred of Cain.

Tricia Helfer studied the effects of assault on the human body. She did extensive studying in preparation for this episode. As of the time of this episode, she hadn't been assaulted.

This is a seriously tough show. And it's all the more brilliant for it. I wish more TV shows had the guts to go where Battlestar goes. Our society would be the better for it.

🔔 GG's ➡ TRIVIA TIME! 🔔 QUESTION: WHO WAS THE FIRST PERSON THAT THEY ASKED TO PLAY ADMIRAL CAIN? 🔔 ANSWER: JANE SEYMOUR (WHO WAS IN THE ORIGINAL BSG IN 1978!)

You don't frak with Adama. I love that about him. Because it's not enough to survive; you must be worthy of survival. The crew of the Pegasus have given up what makes them human - they are no longer worthy. Being human isn't a matter of flesh, but a matter of principles and values. That's what Adama has come to realise, and what he has sworn to defend.

It's definitely the case that people can be turned into monsters like this due to circumstance and social pressure. See, for example, the Stanford Prison Experiment. The Milgram Experiment may also be relevant, here. It doesn't help that the Pegasus crew had very different interactions with cylons than the Galactica crew (and, especially, the audience) did. Not only did they not see them as having the kind of emotional inner lives we ascribe to anyone we consider "people," these not-actually-people had just killed the vast majority of the human race. And that wouldn't be abstract to them, it would include almost everyone they'd ever known who wasn't on the ship with them. Combine that with a Stanford Prison Experiment kind of situation, and a rigid power structure headed by someone like Cain, and you have a recipe for all manner of atrocities. Heck, it wasn't all that long ago that various of the characters we love on Galactica would casually talk about putting a cylon out the airlock. "Cylons are people, too" is a fairly recent discovery for the majority of the fleet.

This episode we see Giaus actually show empathy and love towards the battered six. Tricia and James play so we'll off each other... it's quite magical in terms of their chemistry on screen together.

I'm not someone who is generally deeply affected by fiction. Not that I don't get emotional from emotional stories, just not on a visceral level. I usually recover quickly. This episode still makes me feel physically ill. It's a real testament to the acting abilities of everyone on this show.

🔔 GG's @ 23:06 ➡ The Pegasus had just over 1750 people aboard when it first encountered the Galactica.

🔔 GG's @ 21:07 ➡ Upon now rewatching these particular scenes, I had the thought that it would have been another interesting moment in their discussion if Adama had said to Cain (right before he launched the Strike Team): "Okay look, I'm willing to offer a compromise: Send back my men, who WILL stand trial before a jury of their peers (I give you my word on that). And while you're at it, send back all of Galactica's former crew that you reassigned to Pegasus. I will likewise send back to Pegasus all of its former crew currently stationed here on Galactica. When all of this is done, you go your way, and we'll go ours. Deal?"

I've been waiting for this episode for ages! This was such a great story arc and loved the addition of Michelle Forbes as Admiral Cain

The extended episode wasn't cut down just for explicit content. There are several extended scenes and even new ones that fill out the episode. There are more extended episodes going forward.

Worth the wait! And to clarify - it was seeing the reaction when Michelle Forbes popped on the screen. I had forgotten what takes place later in the episode. 😢

Yep...., Tricia Helfer deserved an Emmy for this episode.... Tricia Helfer played that broken Six on the floor y'all..., whilst also giving head Six's reaction at the sight of a version of herself, is on a whole other level !!

As much as having to be caretakers to the civilian fleet and dealing with Roslin was a pain in their necks, this episode was a good showing of why taking on that role was good for the Galactica crew. It forced them to continually face and hold onto their humanity. The Pegasus crew became hellriders, out for vengeance after the fall of the colonies, and they lost/suppressed their humanity because all they had left to work with was their rage and despair. If the Galactica didn't have the civvie fleet to look after, I can very easily see them going down the same dark paths. Also, Bear McCreary continues to be an absolute master at his trade. "Prelude to War" (the song playing over the end "I'm getting my men" sequence) continues to be one of my all time favorite pieces of music.

Thank you for watching and sharing such a raw, sincere reaction with us. I think it’s completely valid to choose to forego the extended edition to minimize your exposure to the SA scene. If you’re curious about the extended scenes, you can google Extended Scenes Pegasus and there should be a wiki article that lists them in chronological order. This is always a very intense episode for me to revisit. Personally, I appreciated that the extended version fully went there and forced viewers to confront the realities and damage done when you dehumanize your “enemy”, like Paula was saying. At the same time, I think when you know these experiences firsthand, there’s no need to put yourself through the distress of that (needless) reminder. As always, I appreciate your videos very much. Thank you for posting.

This episode was likely more commentary on the Abu Garib Prison scandal in Iraq. U.S. soldiers sexually dehumanizing Iraqi prisoners. The acting in this episode from so many of the cast is just phenomenal. Trisha, James Callis, Grace, Edward, Michelle Forbes just outstanding. Grace had the toughest scene to play. James crying in the scene talking to six hits me every time. Trisha's reaction coming around the corner. Michelle Forbes is fantastic playing Cain. What a stellar performance. Performances.

Best episode ever in a sci-fi series, in my opinion. The whole "Prelude to war" sequence, the "phone call" between the captains, is pure gold (and the OST of the episode has won everything that could be won, amazing Bear McCreary).

Remember how you two hated Gaius at the beginning? Now he's the one showing his full humanity while Cain and her crew show us humanity at its worst. And, as always, Helo is just a good guy.

The BSG movie Razor gives backstory for the Pegasus, but it has a parallel storyline that takes place in a later season so wait to check it out, but it definitely is worth checking out (Michelle Forbes is GREAT in it)

Your reaction to this was amazing, full of humanity, and well done, it was a tough one, much respect to you.

This episode felt off from the start. “Welcome back to the fleet” from Cain told me everything I needed know about the situation. Also, sending you gals hugs. This is a rough one.

21:00 To paraphrase what Apollo said to Commander Adama and President Roslin way back in "Bastille Day": "If we're just throwing out all the rules, then _you're_ not the President, and _you're_ not a commander, and _I'm_ not a military officer." And think about the chaos that ensued when Adama and Tigh arrested Roslin and declared martial law at the end of S1/start of S2. This isn't a settled, stable society - its a super-fragile shell, trying to continue itself in forms it inherited from its much larger, safer, more prosperous pre-Apocalypse forbear. So Adama and the rest of the _Galactica_ crew need to be _very very careful_ about undermining the core assumption of obedience that underpins their authority.

In the US Navy there are 2 kinds of ships, depending on the personalities of their captain and division commander. "Spic and span" ships are kept in pristine condition. Everything neat and tidy. Any sign of rust or paint damage is dealt with as a priority. But, this comes at a cost. Their crews lose time that could be used in training for operational readiness. On the other hand, "Ship shape" ship's crews are honed weapons, 100% capable of carrying out their tasked functions, tho their ships are maybe a little scruffy. Command philosophy.

lol at “I want Roslin to push her out an airlock!” Truly, as flawed as Roslin is, I think Adama and her keep each other and in check and that’s why they haven’t lost their humanity and they have been able to keep what is left of humanity alive. Thank you for your openness and generosity in sharing your thoughts about this episode and peoples experience in this subject.

One problem with talling Cain to take a hike is that the Pegasus massively ouclasses the Galactica. Not only she can effectively do as she pleases, but the Fleet needs the firepower Pegasus represents. And as a guy I never shed a tear for that guy's (won't bother to look for his name) death. That bolt did a service for humankind. For what's worth, RDM's comment on that scene was filled of awkard silences, while he tried to process his feelings about what he was seeing.

This and the next episode are two of the most anxiety producing episodes in all of TV.

16:13, during the original run of the show a tv critic used to call Lee and Kara the twins. Basically, they act more like siblings both yearning for Daddy Bill's attention and approval. Once I read a review I couldn't unsee it. So I guess Admiral Caine is the crazy Auntie.

Been waiting for this episode to roll around.

🔔 GG's @ 31:29 ➡ By all means see (or preferably react to) "9/11: In Plane Site" (Director's Cut) 🙂

What I feel like gets glossed over rather quickly is the fact that the humans have done x-rays and autopsies on these organic cylons, and literally everything about them appeared human. Brain, intestines, lungs, all of that stuff was unidentifiable as not being from a regular human being. They clearly have emotions and free will, and psychologically are the same as humans. Baltar had to whip up a magical cylon detector to be able to tell the difference. The Pegasus crew didn't have a cylon detector. In every way, 6 appeared human to them. And they still did the horrible things they did to her. For Admiral Cain to allow that sort of thing to happen under her command says everything you need to know about her. She failed as a leader. Imagine being a woman on the Pegasus, knowing their fellow shipmates were going down to the brig to do that.

THIS was the episode. THIS was the one that flipped everything on its head. Before this, Cylons were CLEARLY evil and they should be eliminated... but here we get a major dose of empathy... I know there were others, like Sharon, who we felt something for... but this episode (as brutal as it is) was necessary to show that there are monsters on both sides. This show was a commentary of Abu Ghraib and the torture that the "good guys" created. 9/11 was still a fresh wound at the time. While I don't know what you experienced and are feeling... the sense of rage at the perpetrators of that rape was shared by me, as well. You see the ugly truth about humanity as well as the cylons. Both are capable of so much bad and so much good. Thank you for your thoughtful commentary. I really appreciate it. That's why I watch this channel. All the best to you both.

Such a great shot at the end with the Pegasus planes heading straight for the civilian fleet, with the Galactica in the middle.

While I wasn’t a fan of this incarnation of Battlestar: Galactica, I grew up watching the original BSG in the 1970’s. And I do remember a two part episode where the Galactica discovers the Pegasus and Cain; played by Lloyd Bridges (Airplane!). That same two-parter was reissued as a made-for-TV movie called “Mission: Galactica - The Cylon Attack”, it even aired on HBO back in the day.

I knew this episode was going to hit you both hard! Soon as I saw your initial happiness at another Battlestar I was thinking ... just wait ... It's a very brutal, raw episode here & kind of shows the path Galactica & her crew could've taken under different circumstances after the Cylon strike. For what it's worth, I remember hearing that the guy who played Thorne was an absolute softy & was reportedly worried about the scene and was working really closely with Grace Park, & it was her pushing for the scene to be as it was. Thank you both for letting us see you tackle that scene, can't begin to imagine how tough that was ❤❤

Regarding differences between the two versions of this episode, outside of the SA scene, the most important one (IMHO) is right at the beginning. You see Kara talking with Adama and Roslin, describing a mission plan to go back to Caprica to rescue Anders and crew, but Adama believes that her plan to get raptors to jump back that far is overly optimistic. Then this meeting is interrupted by the alerts that another ship has jumped in. In the televised version, they do not show that Kara Thrace was in that room with Adama and Roslin. The other scene that was cut for time but gets the most attention in the extended version is a montage of Pegasus resupplying Galactica, including a Pegasus officer giving Gaeta a hard drive full of news and cultural records, to replace what Galactica had lost in the previous episode's memory wipe. What everyone remembers is that after thanking them, Gaeta then asks them hopefully, "Is there any p0rn in there?" As for the actual SA scene, their toned down editing actually changed the story a bit. In the televised version, it seems that Helo and Chief Tyrol arrive in the nick of time to prevent Lt. Thorne from doing the actual deed, but him coming so close is still traumatizing. With a re-ordering of scenes and a few more shots included, the extended version makes it clear that penetration occurred, and Helo and the Chief interrupted it rather than prevented it. Actress Grace Park has subsequently said that as far as she is concerned, that extended version is what actually happened, and this opinion has effected how she played the character in subsequent episodes.

Studies relating to what people will do when told to by an authority figure are both depressing and terrifying. It should not be overlooked that the characters committing atrocities where doing what their female commanding officer wanted. To be clear not an excuse.

I just want to say Paula's dress is very pretty. You both have your own unique cool styles. Also, thank you guys for your willingness to watch tough episodes like this. It's my opinion that this subject matter shouldn't be used in our entertainment. Writers should think of better says to convey what they want to say without traumatizing a percentage of the viewers. Anyway, I hope you treat yourselves to something nice today.

that was hard watching u go through that kat hope ur ok

My one complaint about this episode is they have Cain be the bad guy from the getgo, which clouds the fact that some of her critiques of Adama have merit. It would have been better if the story had been as drawn out as the Kobol arc, with the audience slowly learning how bad Cain is.

The night after this aired was probably the most intense night for the Sci-fi discussion forum for this show. My favorite thread from that night was "The protruding bolt appreciation thread". The filming of that scene suggested that without that protruding bolt, Lt. Thorne might have survived being thrown against that wall. But there were plenty of less supportive people on there as well, including many who took the Pegasus crew's side. One thread that I frequently saw but didn't feel a need to read was titled "It's a blow-up doll, get over it". The dehumanization you discussed was unfortunately not limited to the fictional world.

You mentioned about how it was making you feel about a cylon, Six.. I was wondering how this is affecting your perception of Baltar?

Gonna be honest, this episode is my favorite cliffhanger since "Mr. Worf ... Fire."

Michelle Forbes was such a good get!

This episode is important in the context of BG to show another possible response to the Cylon attack. The parallels to post-9/11 and other modern conflicts are valid. This was aired only 4 years after 9/11 so those political and military actions were a direct reference for this episode.

The music in this episode, the acting... it's amazing. Such a brutal topic makes it hard to watch, but I personally get catharsis for my own traumas by watching emotionally painful shit, so bring on the tissues Edit after watching the full discussion at the end: yall are just awesome. thanks for all you do

Loved the after show discussion despite the tough subject matter ✌️

WOW. I cannot believe how detailed and brilliant your analysis is. And I have a new found respect for Kat.

5 minutes in : "I love her." Uh oh

Historical context: This episode aired a few months after the public learned about abuse of Iraqi prisoners in the Abu Graib prison, which would become the real-world analogy for this rather than anything that was rumored at Guantanamo Bay.

There was a time in one of the pretty early episodes where Adama had to ask himself: "What am I fighting for, seriously? What will I be going back to if we win?" and most importantly "How will I ensure there's something to go back to?" I don't think the last one has hit Cain. I don't know if she's even open to it. It's not a defense, just my personal understanding of a character I absolutely loathe. Forbes did a good job. Cain also recontextualizes Adama, and even Tigh.

omg here we gooooooo!!!!

The Pegasus crew.....ain't quite right. You can see that Laird ( their deck chief ) is different from the norm, being a civilian drafted in.

My brother's first reaction to the guys stepping out of the raptor "wow, they're arseholes"😂

From the rebellious ensign Ro to the revengeful, merciless, full of hate Adm. Cain ... Michelle Forbes is such an actress. What the Galactica could have been if she was in the same situation... The Pegasus was. Not looking for earth, for hope but only for revenge and blood... *Told you gonna be a rolla coaster of emotions till the end...

I wonder what Ro would think of Cain. I don't think they'd like each other very nuch.

I can't wait to see which characters perhaps you both have had a change of heart by the end of the series, or loathe or like etc. This show is great at turning our feelings upside down and then around for another spin or two! Thank you both!!!☺️💚💚

That’s what makes this set of episodes so good, they force civilians to have to look at the world through military eyes during a time of war and what happens to people when they’ve spent nearly a full year under Marshall law. And yea under Marshall law some people will allow their inner evil to take control under the guise of, “well I was just following orders.” Stay strong gals, these next few episodes are going to be a wild journey.

I think I've heard before that Pegasus is essentially what Galactica might have become if Adama hadn't listened to Roslin in the Miniseries.

In case, somehow, you haven't heard of "The Plan" and "Razor", I can't recommend them enough. Especially after your reactions to this one! All the best!

Michelle Forbes, what an actor! I liked her as Ro, and hated her as Cain. I also despised 99% of the Pegasus crew.

loved the discussion we are living in a world where dehumanization and genocide is happening rn and we just ignore it and go about our day like nothing is happening and the good ol propoganda about how ' complicated' it is lets us sleep better.

As a Trekkie, it was so cool seeing Michelle Forbes again. She’s perfect as the hard-ass Cain. It’s also cool seeing another Battlestar too, especially as it’s more advanced. But, of course, I did pick up on the twist of how, in Trek, the “hero” ships are normally the newest and best ships with the best crews. Whereas, this time, it’s flipped on its head and the crew are the absolute worst, really sadistic. Without spoiling anything, they made a TV movie much later, called “Razor”, which fills in all the backstory for the Pegasus and her crew. It’s definitely worth checking out, especially the uncut/unrated version on blu-ray. I think it was made and released around the time of the start of the final season.

Really good discussion about sexual abuse guys. I think you handled things and discussed things really well. And I think the show handles it well too. To be clear guys, the robotic Centurions are sentient too. They were robots that gained sentience, and rebelled against their human overlords. They then created the humanoid Cylons. The Raiders (the fighter ships) are more like animals. But yeah, those robot Cylons may not look human, but they are intelligent beings with feelings too. It hasn't been mentioned much since the miniseries, but the Six in the miniseries that knew Gaius gives a lot of information that hasn't been mentioned since. And yeah, the humanoids Cylons are not networked together. They are only uploaded from their bodies when they die, and downloaded into new bodies (as we were told by Six and Leoben). Also, I'm a bit confused as you guys are still acting like Head Six is a piece of Cylon technology when we have now been definitively been told by the show that Head Six is not a Cylon chip. Baltar had a brain scan. The show isn't lying to you. That theory that she is a Cylon chip with Six's personality copied into it has been fully discredited. When the show is that definitive, when it gives you a piece of information like that, you can trust it.

Wait, holy crap, I think I have that same narwhal stuffie... Well, RDM couldn't get Michelle to be on DS9, so he did the next best thing =p Gals, Gals, Gals... The military is varied; some commanders are like Cain, some are like Adama, some are competent, some aren't, some are much more relaxed, etc... Cain's Command is far from an "inevitable" outcome of a detached military command (even in a time of war). Ensign Ro DID follow orders- remember the Earring that she took off, until she was given the exception? -- Now, about THAT scene- yes, it was acted. The actors (and crew) were very respectful, (THAT actor was both very respectful and uncomfortable, from what I've heard)- hell, the one pushing for "moar" (in terms of showing it and the horror of it) was Grace Park (Sharon) (because it happens too much in real life); there are some interviews around where she addresses it. (I suggest the "Battlestar Galactica Grace Park Q and A at SyFy complete" at about 12:08 (for certain reasons)) But, that you felt so strongly (as so many of us did and/or do when we see it...), it did what it meant to do. Oh, and the discussions on the Skiffy boards after this episode about "can you rape a machine" vs "Cylons are obviously people" went on for months (if not years) (Last, you should at least watch the opening scene of the extended- as stated, I think the whole extended episode is worth watching, but the opening scene especially has some context for later)

now that you have seen this, you will need to watch Razor(but not yet because it came out in between seasons 3 and 4). it is what Pegasus went thru before this episode

So say we all... 😂😂😂😂

Just when you think something good happens on this show, they quickly crush your hopes into the ground.

Brilliant reaction as always. I told you a few weeks ago your feelings for certain characters would start to shift. You'll also gain respect for another character you've historically disliked in the next episode.

Cain’s greatest crime is she fosters an attitude of rationalizing any crime within her crew as long as they see a net benefit for her cause. Her command style is the embodiment of “The ends justify the means.” Without spoiling future content, they do a decent job explaining how someone reaches that point psychologically.

That was tough to watch. Hope you guys are ok. 😞

The extended cut is a full 16 mins longer. I would maybe recommended watching it, but skip watching the very end. Besides this ep, I would always recommend watching the extended cuts of which there are many. Glad you made it through to the other side.

This episode blurred the line between "good" Humans and "evil" Cylons brilliantly. Substituting Cylons for human "others" allowed so much. We all started out "othering" the Cylons, and Pegasus smacked everyone in the face with it. Maybe you had started thinking Boomer was different, but Cylons are still Cylons. Now Six is different, but how about the other Cylons? Something not mentioned often is that Imperial Japan viewed pretty much all other people as Nazis viewed the Jews. Just ask the Koreans and Chinese, who still have strained relations with Japan. Regarding the Palestinians, if Israel was removed from the picture, they still wouldn't be free, since they'd still be ruled by Hamas. Going the other way on othering, how about saying everyone who voted for Trump is a white supremacist fascist? It's just soooo easy to do. The beauty of the crew situation is that Cain was right about integrating the crews and the breakdown discipline on Galactica, as demonstrated by the reaction of Apollo and Starbuck to the news of their reassignment; but she was soooo wrong about pretty much everything else.

All of this unpleasantness could have been avoided if the president had at some point just given Adama the rank of Fleet Admiral. Since that's exactly the function he's performed since the beginning of the series, it's kind of weird that she didn't. Then, when the Pegasus arrived, what's-her-face would have been fetching his coffee instead of giving orders.

"This is going to be great." Yeah....about that 😂

Finally! ^^

"This too, shall pass away," is reputed to be the one sentence that will always be true in any situation. "Next week will be worse," is the one sentence that will always be true after every episode. Often a very different kind of worse. There are 4th season beats that can only be described as cruel. So cruel they are almost inescapably aimed at the viewers. But, hard as it often is, with BSG, there can be no turning back.

Ahhh! Waited so long for you to finally see Michelle Forbes' return. But also knowing her character and the episode would be traumatizing. Easily one of my favorite moments of the series. I've often pondered how many dominoes they set up just to start knocking them down here - how far in advance did the writers plan this arc? I also think Cain, despite her decisions, is a sympathetic villain. I don't agree with her decisions but I understand most of them. And, what would Adama's future had been if the president didn't dissuade him from attacking. If he survived, how far into Cain territory might he have strayed.

🔔 GG's @ 25:55 ➡ In answer to your question: No. What exactly transpired you will have to wait to find out until when you react to the BSG movie "RAZOR".

ensign ro turned admiral

A) I'm glad you two took seriously the advice to have the emotional support stuffed animals ready. B) I am so happy that no-one spoiled Forbes showing up as Cain. C) I personally prefer Cain and the Pegasus from the original BSG over Moore's version.

Great episode, great after episode chat as well. Do have a look at the extended version, there are other scenes added which are nice plot/character stuff, it's not just the SA scene.

The producers made decisions about the series to portray the violent dehumanizing realities of war . Ships capable of jumping vast distances , yet still using nukes and guns ? Pegasus sudden appearance and having survived by jumping away may weigh on the Admirals conscience after meeting Galactica and the civilian fleet . That's maybe the only excuse for her and her crew who are certainly not a reason for humanity to survive , almost beyond redemption in their treatment of the captive Cylons . Adama finally decided to follow the path of decency at the end of this episode . I can understand you both finding this episode distressing and you certainly aren't alone .

18:06, all of that aggressive interrogation was approved by Admiral Caine. A lot unfortunate set of circumstances can make monsters of us all. Pegasus Six didn't deserve it and Sharon who is pregnant damn sure didn't deserve it. Episodes like this definitely helped earn this show the Peabody Award so timely social commentary. This was all broadcast during the early days after 9/11 and America's War on Terrorism.

28:25 I agree with Paula 100% here.