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Yup

I thought this too!

EXACTLY

The sister definitely has something in her background that makes her believe the woman and not the man.

Yes thank you that family is toxic.

Not to mention the physical push over a joke that had nothing to do with her

Absolutely not! His “sister” (quotations because she is so disloyal to her own brother) has threatened his livelihood with her antics. Through no fault of his own, his company has him on thin ice. Seems pretty crappy of the company, as well. Hope he looks for and finds a better job, preferably in another state far from his toxic family!

​@@yarnovahagreed!!!

He should go no contact with everyone who sides with the sister. Also its very sus that they support this lying woman so much, I wonder if they have ever cheated and made a man pay for a child that wasn’t his 🤔

OMG !! It makes so much sense. Thanks for the update ! I knew the mom was fishy when she said that the Ex was such a nice girl that her son must be the liar. Like, Madam, that's your son !!

Figured that

Tennessee Passed “House Bill#2689:Paternity Fraud” Fine💸Women…Who do this Despicable Behavior…

That was my verrrrry first thought!! 😂

Also how can he possibly trust his family during a tough time; especially after something like that.

@@unixpro1970 His brother and dad were always by his side. Also other family members. his mother and sister are not his whole family.

@@uwetheiss970 We get that, but again this illogical thinking can be fostered by empathy so I having the whole family take a DNA test would possibly scare the mother and sister straight. He's still being too nice imho.

​@@vampirecrush3057 empathy is putting yourself in their shoes, no experience necessary

Yeah I agree with you. To me these women are same ones who want to be gold digger but use feminism to defend themselves. These two are not feminists. They are cheaters who want money from everyone around them. I bet that the sister is not his sister but his half sister and his father doesn’t know that. That is why they defend his ex because they are afraid of what will happen to them if they got exposed.

This is actually the kind of crap that makes people not take feminism seriously 😞 liars ruin everything 😭

NPC folk right there.

The toxic man hating feminism that demonizes men.

the false accusations as well can ruin a man but some women simply don't care.

No, it's from "believe all women". It's a ridiculous statement.

I mean ffs she believed some random woman over her son who claimed she was abusing him! These people are ridiculous

The sister is the type of woman to have consensual sex with a man then turn around and say he raped her

They sound like a couple of demented liberals.

It sounds fake and I hope it is. If its not than Id hire a P.I. to find out info on my sister to 1, understand why shes doing this, and 2 find leverage to make her stop or bring to court. I have a younger brother that Im extremely close to and the thought of choosing some rando over him is unfathomable.

One has to wonder who his sister’s kids (if any) belong to. Or what she has lied to the family about.

f***ing monsters...turning on their own son/brother... they need paternity tests and accountability in their lives... wtf

First story doens´t sit straight with me. Who invites an ex to a family party after zero contact for 5 years?? She was abusive, has a child, nobody has seen her for 5 years and suddenly she´s at an intimate family gathering and half of family is taking her side.. something´s not adding up in this story

@@kjillcallewaert1870 I am absolutely floored by the lack of comments saying that this story sounds completely made up for Reddit likes. It's cartoonish.

That’s ridiculous. It should never have to cost that much money.

​@@anitathompson326 To "hire" the lawyer was 5k alone. Once they burned through that in prep, in order to keep them on and working my case, 5k here, 10k there. Over a few months. Everytime she delayed or missed court for me (my attorneys) to re-submit paperwork to the courts cost like $1000 every time out of my money. Worth it to see her be found guilty because it was a former spouse, she was found guilty of domestic violence charges, in my state parties found guilty have to reimburse (depending on income) legal fees of those prosecuting the case (me). I'll never see that money but knowing if she ever sees me that'll be the 1st thing I ask for, keeps her far far away from me.

Maybe you should sue for legal costs, that's really unfair to pay that much just to protect yourself. I'm really sorry you went through that

@@BoatingMyFloat I was awarded SOME legal reimbursement. But she has never paid. And her knowing she owes me money will keep here away from me forever.

@@kjdickson That is a good thing in itself.

My mom was, and I am the exact same!

OMG i thought of this too.. like wtf are they trying to achieve by causing disturbance on OP's workplace anyway?? such a stupid stupid biatch 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

My dude needs to meet a good woman, he surrounded by trash. Those 3 are making girls look awful 😆

There is definitely more to the story, just does not make sense.

That’s a good point.

I believe they were going to scam him out of his money together

Sad to see tho that once again men’s abuse in relationships isn’t taken seriously. I couldn’t even imagine the hurt I would feel if my own mother would deny I was abused because “she was so nice” as if abuser weren’t known to be very often charismatic. Glad to see tho that the rest of the family seem to atleast be on his side. As a big sister, I would absolutely woop ass of anyone that would dare to hurt or abuse in anyway my brother. I could never imagine acting like op’s sister did.

This is definitely something I’m very passionate about-my little brother was in an abusive relationship and doesn’t have a mean bone in his body….Im very protective of him and want to raise awareness

As charlotte would say one hundred percent agree that's what's up

This story's insane. There's a DNA test. It's not his kid. He's not responsible. In fact, I'd say even if they had a wonderful relationship broke up and and just broke up because you know sometimes things don't work. He still wouldn't be obligated to pay for that child because it's not his. Also his mother and sister are delusional. And I have to agree with a lot of other commoners that maybe the sister isn't the father's biological child and the sister knows that. At least it would make this behavior makes sense. Okay now that I got that cleared up out of the way If You need a DNA test of your child which I think is 100% your right. Then you need to be open and honest with your partner from the beginning of the relationship. And by beginning I mean like the first couple of days. Preferably before you even sleep together. Then the woman has all the information and she has the right to decide when emotions aren't high and a lot of time commitment, energy and emotion has been dedicated to the relationship if that's something she's okay with. Plus, bringing it up beforehand doesn't make it seem like you're accusing her of cheating. But when a woman is at her most vulnerable that that most women will ever be in their entire life. Which is pregnant or recently postpartum. To drop it like a bomb on your partner that you have no evidence of cheating is isn't fair It isn't kind. Quite honestly. It's not the asking for a DNA test. That's the problem. It's when you do it. Because if you're going to wait till someone's at their most vulnerable to drop a bomb on them like that, You need to understand that how that person reacts to that accusation or that request is valid. You have the right to ask 100%. But that person has the right to react to that Any way they choose to. Because instead of being honest and open at the beginning of the relationship, you wait until your partners in a vulnerable state. That's the thing I find unforgivable. Also, if you really wanted a DNA test and you didn't want to destroy your partner, you just take the DNA test and secret and have it sent to a friend of who knows how to keep their mugshot. The fact that you confront your partner with this when she's at our most vulnerable tells me they have an ulterior motive. Adults know you don't need the mother's permission to take a swab of spit. Quite honestly it boils down to put on your big boy pants. Be honest and open at the beginning of the relationship when emotions, vulnerability and a child are not involved. And if you change your mind at any time in the relationship that all of a sudden you're going to need one. You need to be open about that immediately, not when she's pregnant, not when she's postpart. Cuz like I said, if you have those feelings, don't drop it on a bomb. Don't destroy your entire life like an idiot. Just do it in secret and then if it turns out you're not the father confront her. And if you are then keep your mouth shut.

Because Mom and sister did the same. Projection. They don't want her (the ex) to be punished because it's like they're being punished.

Glad to hear this. Men for too long get the short stick in divorce.

That poor child deserves a relationship with their actual biological father.

Why would his family take the girls side when they missed out on the first 5 years of the kids life.

@@lisao7600 good point. If it really was my grandchild I would be quite upset.

A DNA test should be required before parents take their kids home from the hospital. First of all because Hospitals sometimes hand the wrong kid over to the incorrect parents, and the second reason is paternity fraud. The husband's name shouldn't be put on the birth certificate without a DNA test having made sure he is the father.

I hope everyone's mom like yours, everyone need a strong support system. ❤

Tell your mom to receive her Best Mom Moment award please!

I had that exact thing happen with my best friend at 15. Her and her new friend tried beating me up. Shortly thereafter, I got a boyfriend so I wasn't around much. My ex best friend died in a car accident. A year later, her new friend died in a car accident as well.

I’m very concerned by how often victims of bullies are the ones getting punished for merely fighting back. I would not agree, but could sort of understand if everyone were punished for fighting. Except I never hear that. Just when the victim stops being the victim.

Sarah Duffey's Mum I ❤ u! Wherever you are much ❤ in your direction.

To me, this is why good men are harder to find because when they do try to be decent someone in their life takes every opportunity to drag them down instead of lifting them up and kids see that. The internet is forever. Thats why they believe Ahole redpill influencers and Andrew tate clones. Like I said hire a private investigator on ghe sister. She what shes hiding.

I misread that at first and thought you said that you WERE the mother of the man in the first video instead of IF you were the mom. That one little word gets missed and makes a world of difference cuz I was about to let you have it but now we get to stay besties.😉

@@davidguidry657 😂 no but that’s hilarious. Absolutely not. I would have made sure that woman had a restraining order on her and my daughter knew better. I think the mom was outrageous here.

Amen to this - not a lawyer but a mother of three boys.

@@mizuXmagicXmango I agree and that’s why we’re still besties. 😉 Great Tater Tots think alike after all.

I saw this story some time ago. There was another update, though I can't vouch for it's authenticity (sometimes redditors will create fictitious endings/updates on other people's posts when they become popular, so I have my suspicions). If that update is to be believed, the Sister and the Ex were in an undisclosed lesbian partnership, living together, so the sister stood to gain financially from the paternity fraud as well. That post may have been fake, or it may have been taken down on the advice of OP's lawyer, or taken down in advance of criminal charges being filed against the ex and the sister. The post did imply that there was evidence of willful fraud on their part, which his mother knew about. Her efforts to de-escalate and resolve it within the family were to keep OP's sister from being implicated by evidence that would have turned up in discovery. She wasn't so much taking her daughter's side as much as trying to shield her from consequences after she got in over her head. No resolution was posted after that, only that he had decided to go no-contact with his mother, but his father and brother still supported him, albeit it with added tension because of his estrangement from his mother. That makes a little more sense in that it explains the mother's actions and the sister's motives (though by no means excusing either of them). But I am skeptical of the authenticity of that post. It's rare these situations get wrapped up so neatly in real life, lol. As you know, in family law, it's a mess at the beginning, a mess during the proceedings, and it's a mess at the end. Rarely does any of it ever make sense and there are no happy endings, just legal costs and butt-hurt all around, lol.

Thank you for this.

Thanks for the update

Holy!

Thank you. Frankly feels like mom should be arrested for confining him and accomplice to the assault. Just glad he is free though.

Beautiful saga, too bad it's fake and people believe everything...

I could have sworn that there was another update to that saga. The sister was OP's half sister and the sister and mother knew about it, and that's why they kept harassing OP about it. I could be wrong and it could be another story, but I think that's why they kept on harassing OP.

​@@PinkMarshmallows OMG I need to find this history complete, but I don't have reedit

Was the sister the ex's spy?

@@PinkMarshmallows oh hell no, I need a link fo rthis because that's just horrible

Yeah, I wondered if the sister had a child and had gone through something like that herself. That could cloud her judgement on the situation.

Loved his brother…standing totally behind him! (And the father)

I never got the child support from my 1st husband, but I never went after it, either. My ex murdered my father and probably another unknown victim, and before that he kidnapped our baby and was in hiding for a year. My son suffered severe abuse, and 10 of his 12 years of school were spent in special ed because of his PTSD and high anxiety. He earned his way into "normal" classes his Jr. and Sr. years, but still has mental disorders at age 31. My ex was not convicted of murder, not even indicted because the police botched the case and lost the most important evidence. He went to prison for 4 years for a different felony (credit card fraud). During that time, I moved my son and me 1500 miles from the only place I've ever known, I legally changed my name, and cut ties forever with some family and friends whom I couldn't trust 100%. I didn't go after the child support I was awarded because staying alive and hidden from a homicidal maniac was more important.

I cannot wrap my head around how anyone, especially your own family, could think that and take her side! Like, wtf is wrong with them?!

cant tell you how many reddit stories i have seen where people support shit like this. calling the men evil and the children innocent victims and how the men should raise/pay for them and how the women should just be forgiven, but when its the other way around the men are evil and who cares about the child lols

​@LazyIRanch Holy cow, girl! 😢 I am so sorry you and your son went through that and that the system failed you.

@@AngelWJediThis is true. Specially with stepparents. So many stories of “you paid for your biological kid, so you need to pay for the other one too.” The other one has full child support, the bio dad is in their lives etc. Life is what it is. Your kid isn’t entitled unless there was an official adoption paper. I have a stepfather and he helps me out enough 😂 I don’t expect anything else.

And to top it off a brother I have not seen in 15 years, who I had always had a good relationship with, who lives across the country and had never met my ex in person either, was completely on my ex’s side. He tried bullying me into staying with my ex. My brother also tried turning my family against me. It was tough. It tore my family apart. The majority of my family supports me and helped me get out of the abusive situation or at least stayed neutral. But my brother tried helping my ex win our children in the custody battle too. I cut his ass off and everyone else who turned against me. Who has time for that drama? Thank God they are in my past.

Sorry you went through all that, Im glad you are at the end of that drama.

Bringing the problem ex to work is too much.

My parents are like that, always believing the worst of us, despite concrete evidence to the contrary. It is far more common than you think. My parents also spread the falsehoods they believe to their social circles, who then judge the hell out of people they don’t even know. My parents would also rather keep the peace for “appearances”. I feel for this man

Talk about betrayal! No contact with both of these women is absolutely necessary.

I have a feeling the brother is going to go no contact with these women very soon as well. Remember, he was the one who warned OP that mom was going to hold him captive until he backed down. Had he not been warned, and OP walked into that, it would have ended up with at least his mother, and possibly his sister, being charged with kidnapping and unlawful imprisonment. The last time I checked, at least one of those is a felony. I hope he can get his brother to tell the attorney about those plans, as that will be one more nail in the case.

​@@lindapatton4478You're not wrong, iirc there was a third update where dad discovered mom did cheat & he moved in with OP, brother went NC with mom after that so literally only has her pos daughter.

Girl, same. Then to think you can physically assault someone IN FRONT OF PD and nothing is going to happen to you. Chick was all kinds of stupid that day.

It’s the utter lack of loyalty for me. How his own sister and mother would take an exes side is next level wild.

@@Garbeaux. I agree

Absolutely. I come from a disloyal family and this just makes my blood boil.@@Garbeaux.

@@vsm5787 yes

I bet you 1 million dollars that the woman and the sister are f*cking each other. That's why she's doing her best for her brother to give money to the child. She wants the h*e but doesn't want to spend money on the child. There's a story like this before, if I remember correctly.

I would help the kid out myself instead of this. The kid didn’t choose his mom and is a victim in this too. But to try to force child support is plain insane.

@@Marynicole830 Really? you would financially help out a child of an abusive, lying ex of your brother? if you give her money how do you even know where it is going to go? once she starts receiving money from you what if she starts expecting regular help and starts claiming you are not meeting your responsibility if you don't send money? Do you realize that if you provide long term support for a child that is non biological, you could be considered an equitable parent of the child legally and therefore responsible for the child?

​@@squiggs1002This and all of this!!!!

Or maybe, condoms should be mandatory.

@@hazelka1 No, you absolute idiot. The point of mandatory paternity tests is to curb fraud…so men don’t unknowingly raise children that aren’t theirs. Children also have a right to know who their real father is, no matter who the mother prefers as her mate.

Seriously! I had a friend who refused to believe his ex had cheated on him and wouldn't get a paternity test. 3 years later, his mom convinced him to get the test he found out the kid wasn't actually his.....he was paying child support for those 3 years too.

@@katyredmond Ouch! 💔

I would go a bit further and say DNA tests should be mandatory and happen after birth... *Shrugs* Yes, this can be abused by bad actors... like everything else in the world.. but it would be beneficial to have the kid's DNA available for medical purposes down the line (or to identify corpses of missing kids/people)...

Yeah in all my years off being a little sis to nine boys, I loved some exes, couldn’t stand others, but no matter what, my loyalty is with family. I’ll side with a situation and shame you after Shit settles down, but I’m not about to all out demean any family over someone who decided they didn’t belong in our group. The only time I publicly sided with an ex is when my brother Shawn wouldn’t take responsibility for cheating on his gf and getting the other girl pregnant. Ik he cheated. We all did. We knew when she found out she was pregnant while he was with another. He back tracked lied and tried manipulating everyone involved and my sisters and I literally jumped on top of him pinching and pinching and giving wet Willie’s. You take responsibility for your actions. We will always have your back, but don’t be a Shit person just to try and save face. Own up to your bs and fix it.

As it should be.

@@erikarussell1142nice. Thank you for sharing. That’s a great mindset to have. If only most people would apply it 😌 Your family gatherings must be fun with that many siblings. Can’t imagine giving birth that many times 😅

@@calliopemuse3210 my mother adopted unwanted children that were living on the street. My mom is a total saint.

My money is on his mother has actually done that to his father and the sister is the baby in question (and only she knows it). Would explain both of them seemingly thinking its ok and normal to forcibly make a man pay for a child that isn't his

I think it's more a sign of the times. You see it in any "XX"-community. Someone with bad intentions plays the "XX" card and any member of that community just flocks together to support and defend them, saying someone from "XX" can do no wrong and are always in the right because of oppression.

I would make a PSA to warn the male population in that area to avoid that sister at all casts unless they want to end up in the same situation.

She's jealous of the brother and wants to get him to distance himself from the family.

I'm pretty sure this sister also believes that Amber Heard was the victim of Johnny Depp; that's what happens, if the whole "we women are better than men" crap goes to far into someones brain

It sounds like OP might be an affair baby the way his mother and sister are going over ham and fist over the issue, perhaps the sister too is an affair baby, you know what OP get. DNA test on yourself and father to see what's what!

Same

A soon-to-be "Media Karen."

seems to me the op's ex is a master manipulator. sounds like she is naive and fell for it. instead of admitting that she's wrong she doubled down. ether way very sad and messy.

Right! Like something is going on there for sure. For them both to turn up at his workplace and try to get him fired- great plan as what money would they, sorry she get from him then?

I'd tell her and the momma to send the ex their money. Problem solved. They are ridiculous. LOL

That’s a good point, I wouldn’t be surprised is the sister tries or has tried something similar.

I remember that!

Is that considered long, I'm geniunely curious cause mines past my butt so I have no idea of what qualifies as long anymore 😅

⁠@@SaintShionHers is “long”, yours however is “really long”, when it gets close to the knees it’s “damn that some hair”, to the ankles it’s “Rapunzel”

​@saint-izawa3742 From what I've heard, anything past the shoulders is long. Google will probably provide better answers, though.

​@@SaintShionyes, her hair is long. Yours is ridiculously long, lol...jk😂 She really did blossom into a beautiful woman, and funny as Feck too

Now that makes sense.

And Dad is useless. Geez, step in and tell everyone to knock it off. This guy just sat by and watched his family implode.

Here is the comment I was looking for-narcissism at it’s finest

I am sister, too. (Three brothers) I agree. Siblings protect each other if necessary. 🩵

Same, i have two younger brothers and even tho i kinda hate them but if someone treats them like poop then i will protect them at all cost (unless they are in the wrong)

when all this is over legally in court i kinda of hope he makes a social media statement that just say's "for my own sanity on why my sister/mother turned on me, i'm comforting myself that it's just projection which greatly saddens me to learn this about them and hope they can evict their dark past while i stay no-contact." cause they have some serious demon's in their lives to twist themselves into a defamation manipulative pretzel to act like that to their family, even being an estranged sibling to my bro, i would never.

I'm the oldest of three ( younger sister and brother). We don't get on - AT ALL! But there is absolutely no way on Earth of EVER side with one of their exes. And they absolutely despise my ex husband - NO IFS, BUTS OR MAYBES!

Or the two of them are an item and she's doing it for her girlfriend.

This was my thought too,money rules over blood sometimes

My assumption would be if she was in the same situation she would do the same damn thing that girl is doing or maybe she really wants to be on Jerry Springer/Steve Wilkos. 😂

Do you say the same about trans people? I sure hope so!!!

@@kelliewhyte_85🤡

@@kelliewhyte_85 Yeah…facts don’t care about your feelings. Especially, life altering surgeries or medication where the gender of a person becomes very important. You would rather make someone feel good instead of actually make sure they are okay.

DNA doesn’t lie? Except… there are cases where it does! One I recall was a mother needed to get a maternity test for her five kids. The reason why was not included on legal grounds. But even though she remembered giving birth, had photos of holding the newborns in all the hospital glory of birth… the test came back as a “no. You aren’t the biological mother.” Here’s why: she was a medical chimera. In utero, she had absorbed her twin. The only part left of the twin… became the uterus and ovaries! Or another one… a young woman had absorbed her twin. But then gave birth to her sister twenty years later!

@@icarusbinns3156 that is known as an anomaly. They are rare. Identical twins take investigation. Also, when it comes to fraternal twins, both need to be tested as, if the mother has been with a few men in the window of conception, the twins could have different fathers. But, it is rare for a mother to need to take a maternity test. More common for a man. You watch any paternity trial, the judges will often quote an old saying “mama’s baby, daddy’s maybe.” Here’s an interesting twist, though. The baby could have been switched at birth. That has happened so frequently in the past.

Yeah, I don't get this all mentality of "women should always stand for other women". Not when they are shitty people and liars.

Preach 👏

I think it differs between cultures. I‘m pretty sure I heard once, that the fiancé is entitled to the engagement ring (IF gifted) when the engagement is ended. But maybe that’s only, when it is ended by the man?

love CB energy

I did too... I need more of this lol

Lol, my chair actually shot back across the room as I recoiled in horror!

Absolutely Brilliant!

You know she gonna be like, "But it's not the same!!!"

That is so sad. I was a single mom for 15 years, and every cent went to my kids. Clothes, school stuff, going on outings, making it so she can be involved in extra curricular activities… like, only a Shit person steals from children. And the absolute shittiest, steals from their own kids.

@CCZZ.B I'm sorry about what happened to your friend! @@erikarussell1142 I'm sorry about what happened to you! My mom was a single mother with 4 kids (the youngest not even born at the time of the divorce) and still made sure that I was cared for and had a good relationship with my father (who is a good person). She is remarried now but she cared for young kids alone for about 6 years until she did (with a little help from her parents, my grandparents). All the money she made was used to take care of her kids. She's a great mom. I'm still young but even I understand that what first OP's ex was doing was crazy.

People who pay child support for kids that are not theirs should be paid back. It’s very unfair to the man that doesn’t know where the woman’s coochie has been.

⁠@@KaritaGR100% agree. Also @erikarussell I put money into my sisters bank account a couple of years ago for her four kids for Christmas. I live on a disability so I could only afford $30 each but she didn’t give it to them, she kept it. They may be adults but it was still for them. I will never ever put money into her account again because I now know she is a thief and one that’s quite happy to take from her kids. I have actually gone no contact (except on Snapchat because I can’t be completely horrible because she’s still my sister. I just don’t have any respect for for anymore after other stuff she pulled this year) and I’m happier for it.

@@KaritaGR i fully agree!!

That's next level petty. Excellent!

I love this! Petty level EXPERT

Interesting. Thanks for the cultural explanation!

That's what I thought, too (the whole Mexican thing). I figured the sister is 1) his biological mom, 2) his "mom" is actually the Tia, or 3) all of the above. LOL.

The posada thing also gave me the impression since that's one of my favorite traditions from Mexico growing up, I know family is a big thing for us but that story was so messed up and if I was in his shoes I might have trust issues after and cut contact with the sister.

That is terrible. I am so sorry that happened to you. He was a Marine and stalked you that is dangerous. The male in your family are misogynistic jerks. I am really sorry for you I know how that feels the males in my family are like that too. They support hitler and his views of women being only children bearing machines and all man should be war heroes and have all rights over women.

Glad you set boundaries!

Find dirt on him. Hire a private investigator. Then, share it with his hierarchy...

@@NickM_FirstofHisName yea...I've tried that, unfortunately. He's still a golden boy

PREACH!