Ep. 054 - Ammunition, Demystified with Jeff Siewert

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Hornady Manufacturing

Hornady Manufacturing

Жыл бұрын

On this episode, Seth and Jayden are joined in the studio by long-time friend and Systems Engineer, Jeff Siewert. Jeff recently retired from the ballistics field where he spent his entire adult life. He authored a book titled, “Ammunition, Demystified The (non) Bubba’s Guide to How Ammo Really Works”. On the show, the guys talk about some of Jeff's interesting stories through his career and Jeff shares some insight on the practices and principles in the small arms field. We hope you enjoy this educational episode!

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@alanfaulkner5266
@alanfaulkner5266 Жыл бұрын
This is formal request for a gain twist episode.
@russellgavin1820
@russellgavin1820 Жыл бұрын
Second
@josojoso1974
@josojoso1974 Жыл бұрын
I know gain twist is harder to make and little more expensive but if you want more velocity and less pressure and more precision and less recoil then use gain twist
@blackshirtsrule4ever
@blackshirtsrule4ever Жыл бұрын
Third
@formulajoe2
@formulajoe2 Жыл бұрын
Gain twist please… right vs left as well.
@Cowboy.underwater
@Cowboy.underwater Жыл бұрын
Requesting gain twist as well
@codya5333
@codya5333 Жыл бұрын
These podcasts, internal, external ballistics, sample size and this one have revamped my whole reloading process. Ordering his book today. Keep em coming
@hornady
@hornady Жыл бұрын
Will do! Thanks!
@nineteendelta770
@nineteendelta770 Жыл бұрын
I'm amazed that over hundred years ago ballisticians found a cartridge alloy that had the proper elasticity, lubricity and Young's modulus.
@blindboyjonny
@blindboyjonny Жыл бұрын
Congratulations! You guys are top shelf in the transferring of good information to the masses. Your talks on bullet drag, ballistics internal and external and some of the stuff that your latest guest, Jeff, is outstanding. Keep up the great work and thank you again.
@hornady
@hornady Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and the kind words.
@buckaroobonsi555
@buckaroobonsi555 11 ай бұрын
I purchased Jeff's book just the other day it is in the mail! I had not heard of him until your show. What a fantastic resource for a life long reloader.
@brentrasmussen2440
@brentrasmussen2440 Жыл бұрын
"Nothin funner than dropping pigs" best quote of the podcast. Great one guys!
@hornady
@hornady Жыл бұрын
😀
@Donald-Putin
@Donald-Putin Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks guys - Jeff is an incredible wealth of knowledge, really enjoyed this. Of course I am buying the book now..
@BitsOfEternity
@BitsOfEternity Ай бұрын
I'm so glad you guys read the book, so I don't have to! :) It is awesome getting to listen to the stories, and to glean the information from your experiences, so I am grateful for you taking the time to share this with us - with me - because I can't read the way I used to 30 years ago, in college - now I learn better by watching videos like this, so you've made a world of difference for me. Cheers!
@hornady
@hornady Ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@WillMartin-hw2uh
@WillMartin-hw2uh Жыл бұрын
Another incredible podcast. The Ammunition Demystified is certainly on my list.
@hornady
@hornady Жыл бұрын
We appreciate you watching!
@cavemankeith
@cavemankeith Жыл бұрын
What a great introduction to a very technical topic! This is not art .. it is SCIENCE (with a dabbling of art mixed in). Thanks for putting together such a great Podcast. Hats off to Jeff Siewert for his depth of knowledge and willingness to share it with all of us!
@hornady
@hornady Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@pedrogonzalez4441
@pedrogonzalez4441 5 ай бұрын
I like the content of this particular video, but what I MOST LIKE IT. was the respect for the elder. Thank you for being a good example, guys.
@hornady
@hornady 5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@jamiecarter9357
@jamiecarter9357 9 ай бұрын
I watched a video on gun myths about 30 years ago that some guy with a gun shop produced and brush busting bullets was one of the myths. He made a stand that held some small twigs, roughly pencil diameter-ish horizontally and he shot through it with a variety of rifles. He had a target 3 feet in front and 3 feet behind the brush and the rifle was placed in a rest so the bullet would pass through both targets. After aiming the rifle and placing the brush he fired. Even the 50 BMG keyholed completely sideways in only three feet... I don't shoot through branches at game.
@tomlongbow
@tomlongbow Жыл бұрын
Book arrived today. Look forward to reading ! Thanks for the heads up !
@waynemensen4252
@waynemensen4252 Жыл бұрын
The one mistake I made was to load a solid copper bullet with the same charge as the same weight lead core bullet. I did so when they were fairly new, and I didn't search hard enough for data. The solid copper takes a lower charge to get the same pressure. I had to send my gun in to have the bolt repaired as it was over pressured and would no longer extract the empties after three shots.
@jasonweishaupt1828
@jasonweishaupt1828 7 ай бұрын
I live near an artillery range. Their big guns use one yellow bag to keep the range short. They have hit one civilian house since I have lived here (1975).
@laughingdog6010
@laughingdog6010 Жыл бұрын
Awesome podcast, excellent guest,, I ordered the book. Thanks.
@timblack6422
@timblack6422 11 ай бұрын
Outstanding! Thank you!
@jw3946
@jw3946 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed. I appreciate having discussions with knowledgeable professionals. Great book.
@hornady
@hornady Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@WranglerRider3
@WranglerRider3 Жыл бұрын
Just diving in, excited for the show!
@hornady
@hornady Жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy!
@aggie-wc6os
@aggie-wc6os Жыл бұрын
I would be highly interested in hearing a podcast on the .204 ruger, why it was developed and what it brings to the table over other options because there is not a ton of people who have discussed it in length
@hornady
@hornady Жыл бұрын
We plan to do one!
@BlueDogTabby
@BlueDogTabby 7 ай бұрын
Very educational!
@russellgavin1820
@russellgavin1820 Жыл бұрын
Just ordered on Amazon can't wait for it to arrive
@tallyman15
@tallyman15 Жыл бұрын
Ordered the e-book. Looking forward to the read.
@n6mz
@n6mz Жыл бұрын
Ten minutes into this EXCELLENT discussion I went to AbeBooks and ordered Mr Siewert's book.
@derickfeatherstone1431
@derickfeatherstone1431 Жыл бұрын
Again what a wonderful podcast. Answers again so many questions but at the same time generates so many more. With your experience in test reloading you folks know so much about powders can you make podcast about powder dynamics?
@derekedgley5074
@derekedgley5074 Жыл бұрын
The most interesting and informative podcast so far from a hands on standpoint but it predicates a question for the trio to answer please for me: I determine a load for my 6.5PRC using a certain powder and Berger 130VLD Fed 210 primer N165 59.2grains and I eventually obtain a three shot group giving 0.30 I then load another ten I clean the barrel thoroughly and religiously after every 10shots. Using this data obtained I then proceed to shoot a fouler after letting the rifle and ammo to adjust to sit outside to adjust to the particular ambient temperature invariably 3-7C at this time of year most mornings. I then fire off the fouler to warm and foul the barrel then proceed to shoot my next three /three shot groups resulting in a 0 40/0.50/0.30 SD across the nine shots is 8 and the ES was 12 This predicates the question Are these results a fluke? Can I assume that combination on that particular day weather conditions prevailing is capable of a consistent at least 0.5" group of three? The next day little or no wind again I shoot a 0.4 then 0.3 and think I'm good to go and load out 40 I then shoot several deer out to 325yds ok deer size target What's your take on this please. It took 21 rounds excluding foulers for which I use some very little used old design to get to where I got the 0.30" first group changing powder weight slightly and seating depth backed off from jam
@ajheath5123
@ajheath5123 10 ай бұрын
This Bubba got this book to see what inside I would like to know, holy crap! This book is great! I might not get all information as some is a little beyond my education, but wow, it will open your eyes to just what you don’t know.
@bobbogaski2637
@bobbogaski2637 Жыл бұрын
Another informative pod cast. I’ve purchased book for kindle and before reading I re-read the first 100 pages of my Hornady manual. Looking forward to the next podcast
@hornady
@hornady Жыл бұрын
Good stuff
@tallyman15
@tallyman15 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your Erik Cortina talk.
@blackshirtsrule4ever
@blackshirtsrule4ever Жыл бұрын
You guys just keep killing it. Great great work!
@hornady
@hornady Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@leightuner2361
@leightuner2361 Жыл бұрын
Another great episode.
@markyoung2981
@markyoung2981 7 ай бұрын
Excellent podcast, as always very interesting and informative presentation, thank you for your time and effort sharing this with us.
@hornady
@hornady 7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@georgelza
@georgelza Жыл бұрын
Very interesting chat... love these. @53:00, Jeff talk about barrel ID expanding... but then mentions why is that expansion less at the muscle end vs the chamber... just a thought... at chamber pressure = higher, space = lowest leading to expansion = highest, as the bullet moves down the barrel, aka the area between case and bullet expands/are of impact grows larger, but with larger space and same volume of gas = reduce pressure = reduced barrel ID/OD expansion. can be totally off the target here.
@redrock425
@redrock425 Жыл бұрын
Some interesting ideas there. I've always wondered how a hollow projectile would perform with something like a gas check to get it started that then falls away.
@57yr6j03rn
@57yr6j03rn Жыл бұрын
Great podcast, just the book I'm looking for.
@hornady
@hornady Жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening
@longbar185d2
@longbar185d2 Жыл бұрын
Great conversation
@rpk5250
@rpk5250 Жыл бұрын
Cool information and very interesting!! when it was mentioned that a five shot group was needed. I wonder how much barrel heating plays into dispersion
@it_is_what_it_is_brotha
@it_is_what_it_is_brotha Жыл бұрын
Great interview fellas
@johnl5974
@johnl5974 Жыл бұрын
great technical info.
@JeffHenry-uo1nz
@JeffHenry-uo1nz Жыл бұрын
Read Ammunition Demystified on Jayden Quinlan's recommendation. Covers internal and external ballistics very well. The sequence of events before, during and after combustion are detailed. The many aspects of dispersion are explained. The what and how of dynamic and gyroscopic stability are covered. Components are covered. Practical statics and measuring variability are covered. Why error budgets are useful. Included are war stories from actual experience.
@robertmahon2820
@robertmahon2820 6 ай бұрын
Another great pod cast
@hornady
@hornady 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for listening
@jwoak0913
@jwoak0913 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding show. Keep it up dudes
@hornady
@hornady Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@johnseptien3138
@johnseptien3138 Жыл бұрын
Ha, I didn't get through the whole podcast and I stopped, went to Amazon and bought the book. This won't be the last time I watch this podcast either.
@cherokeesome
@cherokeesome 7 ай бұрын
The brush gun theory derived from having a short compact firearm. Not for shooting through brush, and people took it the wrong way, the rest is history.
@mrzrog
@mrzrog Жыл бұрын
Amazing content, thank you.
@hornady
@hornady Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jasonrad9332
@jasonrad9332 Жыл бұрын
Great information!
@hornady
@hornady Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@eliasbonilla8087
@eliasbonilla8087 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating thank you
@hornady
@hornady Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@WvMnts
@WvMnts Жыл бұрын
Pretty new to reloading. Just out of curiosity since seating or shot weight really don’t matter. What do you guys recommend. Loading max OAL and and near max charge? Love the pod cast. Thanks for sharing all the data
@jfess1911
@jfess1911 Жыл бұрын
A big question occurred to me when Mr. Siewert said he is having a 30-06 built: Is he using the SAAMI chamber or a "match" chamber? Almost all recent cartridges use a tight-freebore followed by a 1.5° half-angle throat-style chamber. Some people who use custom barrels, even for older cartridges like the 30-06 or even the 280 AI which have a SAAMI chamber without a freebore section.
@224Nisqually
@224Nisqually 11 ай бұрын
The marketing department bullet design reminds me the story of the Savage .250-3000 cartridge. Charles Newton wanted to develop ammunition with longer, heavier, 100 gr or heavier bullets for the Model 99 leveraction. The marketing department wanted to advertise a 3000 fps cartridge regardless of the utility of the lighter bullets.
@REDNECKROOTS
@REDNECKROOTS Жыл бұрын
If the brush is right close to the deer it's not bad. b but if u hit brush several yards before the deer the bullet won't hit it probably
@user-gk2ir4ml3t
@user-gk2ir4ml3t 4 ай бұрын
Jayden, I see what you mean about this Jeff, he is an ace....'bout my age too. I will look for his book
@johnsanders7337
@johnsanders7337 10 ай бұрын
First time I ve been able to understand transsonic "change"
@tomlongbow
@tomlongbow Жыл бұрын
Absolutly the „right stuff“ 👍🏻. Greetings from Germany
@hornady
@hornady Жыл бұрын
Hello there!
@tomlongbow
@tomlongbow Жыл бұрын
@@hornady watched/listend to all Ballistic Podcasts you put out so far. Several times while commuting. Great wealth of Information. I got my explosives permit for reloading in 88‘ and still you made me raise an eyebrow several times making me rethink my sop‘s. Your tech Department has an e mail with a video clip from me concerning 120gn .264 CX bullets. Waiting for some input.
@kevinangus8794
@kevinangus8794 Жыл бұрын
Went right to scamazon and bought a hardcover copy of Jeff's book...... even if I only enjoy it as a read once , I know someday I'll pass it on to someone who will appreciate it like the bible.
@davecollins6113
@davecollins6113 Жыл бұрын
Some hints on some interesting stuff expressed there, guess a fella will have to take a look at the book. Probably see a pretty good spike on sales this next month or so.
@paxrom1
@paxrom1 10 ай бұрын
lmao jeff got me, i'm the engineering type who bought his book haha, honestly I'm starting to think shooting is just golf for engineers.
@TMFShooting
@TMFShooting Жыл бұрын
Great Podcast 👀
@hornady
@hornady Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@MarkBelcher-wi2xg
@MarkBelcher-wi2xg Жыл бұрын
Very informative podcast! As a shooting nerd, I find the ballistic topics very interesting. Regarding ideas for future podcast topics, perhaps some discussion of the development of some of the heavy hitters would be interesting. Specifically, the 375 & 416 Rugers, and the breathing of new life into some of nitro express cartridges, and the influence of Craig Boddington on the same. Maybe get ole Craig on the show! I realize these cartridges are more specialized and lack the broad appeal, but personally I think listeners would find a big bore discussion interesting.
@jesseolsen7033
@jesseolsen7033 Жыл бұрын
Ll P L 0
@waynemayle865
@waynemayle865 Жыл бұрын
Guy's I know everyone an there brother wants to be a long range shooter . Myself I grew out of it. What I'm wanting to know is when are u going to bring back the small bore bullets. 172 25gr hollow point. Berger discontinued there 25gr target bullet sierra is a no go nosler don't make one Speer we been trying to get them on board. Hornady 25gr. 17 cal hollow point was the best why discontinued it
@nevadacoyote
@nevadacoyote Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering why do 22LR have 1x16 twist? Is it related to velocity? VS a 22 center fire that have 1x9 10 11 or 12 twist
@slickrick809
@slickrick809 Жыл бұрын
Most commonly used 22 centerfire bullets are heavier than most commonly used 22lr bullets. That's a big reason for difference in twist rates. Velocity? Not sure about that.
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 Жыл бұрын
👨‍🔬 I have some Powder Questions: 1.) Doesn't increased surface area, by the shape of the powder, increase the consistency of complete combustion? 2.) Aren't Ball Powders, because they have less surface area, not as reliable in providing as high of velocities because of incomplete combustion? 3.) If you were to used the principles of Geology, by using multiple sized balls for filling the pore spaces within the case (A Powder Compaction Method), you could fit more ball powder into the case - as to increase bullet velocities! 4.) Then, if you found the right "combustion combination" - between the little balls and big balls of powder - you could increase bullet velocities and accuracy! But, still do so, without overpressurizing the case! 5.) Isn't their a way to increase the surface area of Ball Powder "Like Shapes" (like pollution control equipment ceramic balls or those used in a catalytic cracker of a refinery) and using this "multi-size powder compaction method" - to increase both bullet velocity and accuracy - through better combustion methods? 6.) Or, improve powder combustion with the use of origami, for improved powder shapes and better combustion within the cartridge case? Your Thoughts? 🕵️‍♂️
@sniperkwg
@sniperkwg Жыл бұрын
How about a podcast on TAP ammo?
@northernoutdooradventures3883
@northernoutdooradventures3883 6 ай бұрын
Does increasing twist rate increase recoil? This is a thought experiment I've been toying with, but can't full explain. I figured this would be a good place to find some people to sound board. I think am thinking there is more recoil because the bullet would gain rotational energy. That increase in energy would ultimately result in more recoil. What i can't explain is how the physics would convert recoil into rotation??
@jaydunbar7538
@jaydunbar7538 Жыл бұрын
We are no different then our ancient ancestors, we are still throwing rocks. The difference is our rocks are much fancier.
@casmussimmons1396
@casmussimmons1396 Жыл бұрын
Does nosler, swift , and Barnes have podcasts?
@wyattgraham5711
@wyattgraham5711 Жыл бұрын
Ya know, I ordered textbooks a couple weeks ago. I could have slipped this one in…
@isaactrujillo76
@isaactrujillo76 11 ай бұрын
Only 5 shots into an inch and you’re happy!? Only in America baby’s. 😂❤
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 Жыл бұрын
🧐 I Have A Bullet Question: First, regarding the "Accuracy" of Lead Core Bullets vs. Monolithic Solid Copper Bullets! Jeff mentioned the expansion that takes place from within a lead core bullet (lead, of course, is more malleable, because it is softer) as it driven down the barrel! Does that changing of the shape of the bullet, in the way it expands, stabalize the bullet by changing the center of mass? Or, is it because lead is still denser than copper and it helps to stabilize the bullet better - due to the center of gravity of the bullet (because lead is denser than copper) ensuring that the center of mass of a shorter bullet prohibits as much wobble of the front of the bullet from happening? 🤔 Your thoughts? 🤷‍♂️
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 Жыл бұрын
👨‍🏫 From a "physics standpoint", it only stands to reason that the farther away that the nose is from the center of mass of the bullet - once it starts to wobble - the harder it is to stabalize it! It is like the use if a Fulcrum - a "mechanical advantage" is gained by a longer one - so, it is easier to displace the load as the length of the fulcrum increases! Also, if the bullet expands - after hitting the lands - in a vertical direction and changing the shape of the bullet in the x-axis direction, then the harder it is to create a wobble on the tip of the bullet, as the bullet leaves the muzzle! Think of snow shoes - the wider the shoe, the easier it is to displace the weight (downward force sideways, in the opposite direction), by increasing the surface area! 🤔
@rudyvazquez8230
@rudyvazquez8230 Жыл бұрын
🙏🏼
@formulajoe2
@formulajoe2 Жыл бұрын
I was worth watching just to hear someone say out loud that the 10-shot load development is absurd!
@slickrick809
@slickrick809 Жыл бұрын
"Isn't a bullet jusr a hunk of metal?" Only a woman would say that lol. My response to that would be - "Isn't a house just four walls with a roof over it? Then why do we need an interior decorator?" Thanks for another great podcast guys.
@squirrelgunsmith1131
@squirrelgunsmith1131 Жыл бұрын
A bullet is a mechanically propelled rock...
@christiansmith9414
@christiansmith9414 Жыл бұрын
Any chance of getting a regular FMJ projectile in 6.5mm for a more economical reloading option?
@phillipbrandenburg2105
@phillipbrandenburg2105 Жыл бұрын
They have a 123 fmj that is sold through midsouth shooters supply it is an over run bullet
@christiansmith9414
@christiansmith9414 Жыл бұрын
@@phillipbrandenburg2105 Thank you
@johnmorgan2099
@johnmorgan2099 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps a call-in segment for people who do not like to type or people with in-depth technical questions
@hornady
@hornady Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the idea, John! In the meantime, feel free to give our Tech guys a call. They will gladly help with any questions & discussion - 1-800-338-3220
@derekedgley5074
@derekedgley5074 Жыл бұрын
I hope they take time out to answer my questions as this is the third time I’ve posted
@Mike-xi4zt
@Mike-xi4zt 2 ай бұрын
Duplex loads are not new. Elmer Keith was doing that before WW2. Gain twist has been around for a century. I agree with "inherent accuracy of a cartridge" as being fairy dust mythology. A bullet does not care or know what cartridge pushed it out the barrel. To say that a particular Cartridge generates a more accurate special kind of 60,000 PSI is basically a nonsensical Believe.
@ronlowney4700
@ronlowney4700 Жыл бұрын
🙂 Justin, when that beard starts getting gray, you can always shave it off! 👩‍🦲 Hopefully they aren't working you to hard and I'm not making it any "grayer"? 🤷‍♂️ Good podcast! 👍 It also appears that I have a New Book to Buy! 👨‍🏫
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