Ep. 193 | Financial Independence (with Travis Shakespeare)

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The Minimalists

The Minimalists

5 жыл бұрын

Joshua and Ryan discuss financial independence, spending habits, and solving money problems with filmmaker Travis Shakespeare. Watch “Maximal” episodes of The Minimalists Private Podcast exclusively at / theminimalists
Questions answered in this episode:
How do I pay off debt when I’m only earning enough money to pay for life’s essentials? (03:35)
How do I save and invest with the earnings from a minimum-wage job? (17:51)
Is financial independence necessary for a minimalist, and, if so, what is the first baby step toward that journey? (26:07)
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@BabyASHofficial
@BabyASHofficial 2 жыл бұрын
I got laid off from my office job and knew I had to make a change fast. So I took yalls advice on cutting costs on housing, food and transportation. Now I work as a deckhand on a tugboat making $130 a day full benefits 2 weeks on 1 week off and the entire time I’m on the water I spend $0. Luckily I have no debt thus far. Cancelled all of my subscriptions so nothing is draining my bank account. It only took me a week to get the certifications needed to get my job, and within a week of putting in my first application I got hired and was out on the water. Moved back in with my parents and they provide me with free food on my week off. Considering I stay home the entire week I’m off and don’t go anywhere or buy much of anything, I’m able to save huge amounts where most people go and blow their paycheck. My financial values are extremely conservative because my grandpa instilled his Great Depression values in me. Frugal living is the way to go 👍
@asdf7711
@asdf7711 2 жыл бұрын
Well done. Very sensible but you sound young so please don't stay in all the time to be frugal. If you want to meet someone, don't leave it too late. Spend some money on yourself and your future potential partners.
@livelearnandteach7402
@livelearnandteach7402 4 жыл бұрын
I think there are important differences between 'retiring' and becoming 'financially independent'. I do not want to retire. I want financial freedom.
@thomashogan1985
@thomashogan1985 Жыл бұрын
100%
@zelinadacosta3123
@zelinadacosta3123 Жыл бұрын
Agreed! I’m from Brazil, never been abroad, but when I discovered Fire movement and minimalism my life changed drastically. I was just studying to improve my English and all of a sudden I turn debt free and counting the years to be financially independent. I’m gonna teach English for free, I’m gonna help poor people that don’t have money to pay English courses, because speaking English is a way of making from 15% to 90% more money. I don’t wanna retire, I wanna have a work that matters
@dakine4238
@dakine4238 Жыл бұрын
I like that you guys aren't judgemental about your past. I get down on myself for being in debt when I knew better.
@carylmaluping9632
@carylmaluping9632 5 жыл бұрын
When Joshua said "Don't confuse schooling from education". Totally agree.
@phyliciajoykloes
@phyliciajoykloes 5 жыл бұрын
For sure.
@RealLifeMoney
@RealLifeMoney 5 жыл бұрын
Sad but true.
@sylviash4989
@sylviash4989 5 жыл бұрын
You all have valuable things to say, but it would be good to hear more from your guests!
@setzket
@setzket 5 жыл бұрын
I rediscovered the two of you after years later having first seen The Minimalist documentary. Somehow, this rediscovery was at a much needed time in my life. I’m very grateful for the re-inspiration and encouragement of simplicity. Thank you.
@cubicle89
@cubicle89 5 жыл бұрын
Well said. I'm at that point too.
@RealLifeMoney
@RealLifeMoney 5 жыл бұрын
I think we can all learn from this and make some good changes in our life. Great point 😁
@troywesterbur706
@troywesterbur706 5 жыл бұрын
This month I make the final payment on a debt that has taken me 8 years to pay off. I have paid off many others but this is a big one. Even paying off one debt gets you a day closer to freedom. Once one gets paid off then its 2 then 3. The bigger ones become easier to pay off. This will leave me with my mortgage but instead of 30 years it will be 15.
@jellybeans9283
@jellybeans9283 4 жыл бұрын
Troy Westerbur 🎉 congratulations 🎉👏🏾
@khizarabid8414
@khizarabid8414 4 жыл бұрын
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@iwantxxx
@iwantxxx 5 жыл бұрын
I was born poor but now at 38 yrs old I overcome poverty. I was lucky starting at young age : getting scholarship, frugal life, change job for better income, etc. My parents also cooperate with me.It's a team work. You have to believe you can have financial freedom.
@RealLifeMoney
@RealLifeMoney 5 жыл бұрын
iwant xxx That’s a great success story that we can all take something from. Great work and keep it up! 🤗
@carolannstevens5814
@carolannstevens5814 Жыл бұрын
I hope you will get Mr. Money Mustache… He is fantastic! Thank you for this.
@nonozera
@nonozera 5 жыл бұрын
There is a point often oversaw about how much things you buy cost as your time. If you make 8 dollars per hour a cup of coffee of 4 bucks will not cost only half hour of your time. You have to subtract all your basic bills and find out your monthly disposable. That amount you will divide by the hours you work. So you might find out that you really make $1.5 per hour (after bills) that cup of coffee than will cost much more of your time than you think...
@Interjrux
@Interjrux 5 жыл бұрын
This made me laugh so hard 😂😭I have never thought of it this way, you are so correct!
@FinanzMinimalist
@FinanzMinimalist 4 жыл бұрын
Very smart point!
@briantimmins9723
@briantimmins9723 4 жыл бұрын
I'm out and free at 45. The way I did it was buying a crappy beat up house, living in it and remodeling it over 2-4 years, then selling it. I did this several times over 12 years and lived in eternal construction. I had a good job the entire time, and worked on renovation projects at night/weekends. I avoided taxes since these were primary residences. The lump sum injection every 2-4 years knocks the debt out quickly, then you can save and get there. You have to give up the social life to do it...that is the part most can't do.
@phyliciajoykloes
@phyliciajoykloes 5 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Great one. Once I am debt-free, I've got more financial choices to make. Thanks to y'all, I created a budget a while ago. It has helped a bunch!
@RealLifeMoney
@RealLifeMoney 5 жыл бұрын
andthenifellinlove Budgeting could be so simple yet so hard haha. Did you find any challenges along the way while starting?
@phyliciajoykloes
@phyliciajoykloes 5 жыл бұрын
@@RealLifeMoney Oh, I did for sure. I thought I spent less on food and fun activities. I had to adjust my budget a couple of times. I have just moved in with my boyfriend, and my budget had to change all over again. It's kind of fun, though. I make a game out of is and I'm quite happy when I stick to my budget.
@tamstams3815
@tamstams3815 3 жыл бұрын
Totally enjoyed this interview. Had an easy conversational style with great takeaways. Looking forward to more content from my favorite minimalists!!!
@liisaelts7522
@liisaelts7522 3 жыл бұрын
I started off 10 years ago earning 400 a month with 6000 dept. I literally had to learn at the age of 25 the most basics of financial skills because the only person in the family, who had any idea about it was my depression era grandmother, who finally sat me down and set me up with a plan SHE came up with. I felt like those housewives in the shows who think laundry washing takes an hour off your day because they don't fathom that it only takes 10 minutes max to set up the machine and you can walk off doing other chores. I am at the end of the dept journey, and honestly I don't regret having that dept because I needed it and it helped but it has taken me 10 years to get out. My point is, I had to physically learn those skills, they weren't ingrained in me and I still feel like a 15yo staring at investing, who like knows what is supposed to be what, but hasn't done her exam yet to have the confidence that yes, I know what to do. I just hope I have those skills set in stone by the time I have to seat my niece down and teach her to skip big mistakes and stick with the small ones. I was on that 400 per month for 5 years, I felt I had to have a steady job instead of a job that would grow volatile, because people depend on me. I still feel this way, but the way I look at my finances has changed, so I don't feel so lost anymore. Not there yet, but learning.
@carinkveton8691
@carinkveton8691 2 жыл бұрын
This is SUCH a good episode! Thank you for this!
@Tina-xp9ue
@Tina-xp9ue 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the helpful podcast episode. I'm trying to understand this topic more because it's my goal to be financially independent. Cheers!
@agisler87
@agisler87 5 жыл бұрын
My brother is 26, doesn't have a college degree and only gets paid about $10/hr. He saves about 20% of his income, by the time he is 65 he will have over a million saved.
@RealLifeMoney
@RealLifeMoney 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Gisler Great point, it’s not about how much we make but how much we keep for ourselves which isn’t done frequently unfortunately 👍
@MagellanMG
@MagellanMG 5 жыл бұрын
This is great advice! We also need to examine why some people stay in debt due to emotional reasons, take a look at debtors anonymous and see if they can help with compulsive spending.
@everydayinvestor6718
@everydayinvestor6718 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome content, thank you for posting.
@naomiking2442
@naomiking2442 5 жыл бұрын
I'm super excited to see the documentary as soon as it's available locally! I hope you all can get Mr. Money Mustache, Pete, on your podcast sometime!! Great interview as always! Thanks for recommending Every Dollar! I learned about the Baby Steps at age 24 and now at 40 we are mortgage free and completely consumer debt free. You all are incredible!
@igorchichkin509
@igorchichkin509 3 жыл бұрын
So simple but also hard at the same Time , will be Working on this as résolution 😇🙏🤩
@Interjrux
@Interjrux 5 жыл бұрын
Loveee this podcast ❤️
@jjuniper274
@jjuniper274 5 жыл бұрын
Omg...check out this pithy answer I drummed up in my brain just now... Consumerism is like alcoholism. The addict has to WANT to change. I bet one of you already said that, so sorry if I've plagiarized. Ugh someone. As I was trying to help a friend with her finances, it became all too clear. Things and acquiring things are more important to her. I can't change her. She has to want to change. I adore you guys!! 💞
@Ally-ug3nq
@Ally-ug3nq 4 жыл бұрын
Such a wonderful video 📹👛👏
@jjuniper274
@jjuniper274 5 жыл бұрын
He's really right about the apps are like gaming. I like to see all the bills pay off.
@TheFittnixx
@TheFittnixx 3 жыл бұрын
Watching all these episodes and the guests barely get words in 😔
@HumansOfVR
@HumansOfVR 5 жыл бұрын
Fire is the hottest thing right now
@darylsmith9318
@darylsmith9318 5 жыл бұрын
Life Progress - ideas for a better life TV It’s really lighting up
@RealLifeMoney
@RealLifeMoney 5 жыл бұрын
People are sick of living lives that aren’t theirs 😱
@carieyounginsurance
@carieyounginsurance 5 жыл бұрын
Did you know very few people actually make minimum wage? Like it's less than 1-2% in our country of individuals that over 25 years old (per Dave Ramsey).. Honestly, what I have found is that it isn't how much I made...it's how I spent it! When you pay attention to where your money goes- you start to hold onto it and care about where it is going...I have a ways to go- but I am getting better each and every day with my resources. All I have left is my car and I am snowballing that to be done Jan 2020! It will be the first time in my life I have NO debt!
@agisler87
@agisler87 5 жыл бұрын
"it isn't how much I made...it's how I spent it!" Awesome statement! This is why as people earn more and more they stay just as poor. The baseline for what's considered "comfortable" keeps increasing.
@Bluponi
@Bluponi 2 жыл бұрын
Great video guys... I'm in the process of becoming a minimalist, but a question for anyone who wants to answer... To improve your life, is it more important to get a second job or reduce your expenses ? Part of the appeal of minimalism is that you shouldn't have to work 60 hours a week to sustain your lifestyle...
@michelleheadrick951
@michelleheadrick951 2 жыл бұрын
Just my opinion: maybe take a second job temporarily, to get out of debt, so that you will be able to enjoy a simple, debt free existence. Just a means to an end.
@adamp6401
@adamp6401 3 жыл бұрын
I’m in a right personal quandary. I’m all aboard with the message and I have a good job and low living costs with no real debt bar my mortgage. I live alone in a flat in the UK (apartment?) but have felt antsy here for a while. The flat is up for sale and I’m keen to buy a house that would be suitable for me for a long long time even if my life needs change in terms of kids etc... however there is no denying in the short to medium term I would be living alone in a house and this doesn’t feel quite in keeping with the avoiding lifestyle creep. I have some choices to make. Part of my thinking is that I want fewer neighbours!
@asdf7711
@asdf7711 2 жыл бұрын
It's perfectly natural to want to move from a flat to a house: it doesn't have to be huge or in an exclusive area once it's safe, comfortable and affordable. I lived on beans and toast for a while when I purchased my home. Try to think ahead of where you want to be when you are older or in different circumstances. Good luck!
@shaunraymond65
@shaunraymond65 5 жыл бұрын
i'm interested to know what you guy's (josh and ryan) think about the old saying or thought regarding money "spend it now you can't take it with you when you die"?
@user-wk5ff4jv3r
@user-wk5ff4jv3r 5 жыл бұрын
I think the actual saying is 'Spend your money before you die.' That is how it is said in British and correct American English.
@lisaclark4724
@lisaclark4724 5 жыл бұрын
I'm 55 and so many of my high school friends are dying before they can retire. My belief is there has to be a middle road. We are debt free, except for our mortgage, we are saving for retirement but we also travel yearly marking off bucket list items. We could retire earlier if we saved all that money but there is no guarantee that we will be around to enjoy it or be physically fit enough to enjoy it when that time comes. I have no problem living frugally to save up for a Caribbean cruise.
@angelikalaser7778
@angelikalaser7778 5 жыл бұрын
8:22 When will people stop recommending uber as a side hussle? You don't come ahead driving for uber! It must be common sense by now. Your car gets depreciated, you pay the insurance which might increase bc you drive more and you pay the taxes.
@agisler87
@agisler87 5 жыл бұрын
Clearly your wrong or so many people wouldn't be doing it for so long.
@angelikalaser7778
@angelikalaser7778 5 жыл бұрын
@@agisler87 some people might profit but I think there just constantly new trying it out. And since the majority of americans are broke and live paycheck to paycheck it must be the right thing to do 😂
@brianb572
@brianb572 4 жыл бұрын
Remember....you will never struggle to get out of debt if you don't get into debt in the first place. I shake my head when I hear people complain about their debt. YOU took on the debt to begin with.
@jjuniper274
@jjuniper274 5 жыл бұрын
As a 50 yo GenXer, I wish the Baby Boomers WOULD retire early, so that MY generation can enter into management positions. As it is, I see the BB-ers retiring much later like 70 and therefore people my age get entirely skipped over, and the Millennials or those younger get those positions, because who wants to hire we "lackadaisical dreamer 50 year olds who haven't even REACHED a management position yet! God, what a bunch of losers! 😒" Ugh so frustrating. 😣 We are judged heavily. And if you are a woman, with white hair such as myself, forget it. You have one foot in the grave, by today's standards. I'm not even an option.
@Iquey
@Iquey 5 жыл бұрын
White hair is cool. I tone it though so it doesn't look yellow. It sucks that our society is so hateful to older women. I am a millennial and want to change that. Everyone gets old eventually! Industry Skills AND people skills are what matter for management.
@Tesla-Cannon
@Tesla-Cannon 4 жыл бұрын
Texas minimum wage is 7.25, for anyone curious.
@jenns37
@jenns37 5 жыл бұрын
Any tools or programs that you can do smaller amounts of investing?
@bethanyf9270
@bethanyf9270 5 жыл бұрын
Robinhood or Acorns maybe?
@JessyLovesYou
@JessyLovesYou 5 жыл бұрын
Fidelity and Vanguard are the best I've heard. Fidelity has no fees on investing (as long as you don't plan on doing individual stocks, something you shouldn't do anyways) and Vanguard has something like a .04% fee. Do a lot of reading/KZfaq watching and decide. Reddit's /personalfinance forum is awesome for example.
@RealLifeMoney
@RealLifeMoney 5 жыл бұрын
Be careful with mutual funds tho, there are fees and expenses that add up without us even realizing. That’s why many suggest Vanguard for funds and IRAs 😁
@Iquey
@Iquey 5 жыл бұрын
Retire early. Ok. I'd like to retire at all. Lmao. 😆
@dainasworldnumbers88
@dainasworldnumbers88 5 жыл бұрын
It seems like, even Dave Ramsey’s principles involve another person. The fire couple as well. Rarely is it one individual that can sustain this financial utopia.
@marissa1126
@marissa1126 5 жыл бұрын
However, you could benefit similarly by living with friends, roommates, or family. Housing cost is the greatest cost effecting a single person, and the added social community in your life can be just as beneficial, mentally, as the shared housing is, financially.
@angelikalaser7778
@angelikalaser7778 5 жыл бұрын
We as humans are not meant to be alone. Even the minimalist are two ;)
@Pensa-ho
@Pensa-ho 4 жыл бұрын
Hello! I have created a Facebook page, FIRE UK, it's still in its infancy right now. Would it be OK to share this video there? I think the content is very interesting and valuable.
@jenniferleigh1674
@jenniferleigh1674 2 жыл бұрын
My issue is groceries, gas, and spur-of-the-moment wants.
@stefanie.j0anne
@stefanie.j0anne 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan - May I send you my budget for complimentary mentoring? I'd be very grateful! -Stefanie
@jjuniper274
@jjuniper274 5 жыл бұрын
Right again....house, food, transportation.
@Cathamyr
@Cathamyr 3 жыл бұрын
FIRE GOT UPGRADED SINCE THEN ?!
@10BUTTERTOAST
@10BUTTERTOAST 5 жыл бұрын
sorry but where's is the link to that "food cost by calorie" post?
@DawidDgk
@DawidDgk 5 жыл бұрын
www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/03/29/killing-your-1000-grocery-bill/
@Iquey
@Iquey 5 жыл бұрын
This is why I ask for extra butter packets.
@10BUTTERTOAST
@10BUTTERTOAST 5 жыл бұрын
thanks
@dakine4238
@dakine4238 Жыл бұрын
I'll show you my budget if you mentor me
@priceandpride
@priceandpride 5 жыл бұрын
All of their hairstyles are so distracting
@virtuallyveganlifestyle3990
@virtuallyveganlifestyle3990 5 жыл бұрын
Don't you think the economy will collapse before your investments will come to fruition? 🙏🏽💜🖖🏽
@HabibiGib
@HabibiGib 5 жыл бұрын
Most things we fear are not likely to ever occur. Don't put off saving and bettering your financial situation based off a "But what if?"
@virtuallyveganlifestyle3990
@virtuallyveganlifestyle3990 5 жыл бұрын
@@HabibiGib yes I hear you but a financial collapse is quite likely..
@Bigboss-xe6lm
@Bigboss-xe6lm 4 жыл бұрын
@@virtuallyveganlifestyle3990 Thats an even more important thing to save money for. You need to buy stocks/index funds when the crashes are at the bottom. Cheap stocks! triple your money in 3 years!
@virtuallyveganlifestyle3990
@virtuallyveganlifestyle3990 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bigboss-xe6lm I still don't understand how you will get returns if the whole collapses over night.. I think I'm a bit thick 🙏🏽💜🖖🏽
@Bigboss-xe6lm
@Bigboss-xe6lm 4 жыл бұрын
@@virtuallyveganlifestyle3990 A total collapse could happen, but thats an even greater excuse to save up money so that you can buy the cabin in the woods with wind,water and solar power so that you have a bug out place to begin with. :)
@polgara28
@polgara28 2 жыл бұрын
If you haven't heard that song by Noah Gundersen, here's a link. It's amazing! I was very pleasantly surprised to hear it mentioned here. Now I love you guys even more! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fth_fpyo2tS8pqc.html ❤️
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