A practice test in shallow water to see what Trim does on her side. Its our first time, there is lot to improve on.
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@rockykoast70656 ай бұрын
Excellent !
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. Josh
@rossbarnett37599 ай бұрын
This was excellent to watch. The different angles and probably the best capsize drill I have seen.
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
Thanks Ross, I tried to bring everyone into it. I actually need to do a deep water one but this was a good first outing. Josh
@garyhardy38109 ай бұрын
Good for you Josh, well done. Reassuring how hard the navigator is to capsize, great the mast float works so well, and great you can get her back up and you back in. And even better that you actually got out and did it. Bravo.
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
Thanks Gary. Yes a very stable boat indeed.
@garyhardy38109 ай бұрын
@@DinghyCruisingKingfisher interesting too to see the "tail" on the bottom of the centreboard. A good bit of insurance. I have been thinking I might try a downhaul arrangement on the Scamp, but the tail looks simple and fool proof, even if it does cost you 0.001 of a knot.
@Stevecollinsclear8 ай бұрын
my calculations? actually .000005 of 1x knot
@Stevecollinsclear8 ай бұрын
excellent - much respect. Looking forward to the deep water repeat
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher8 ай бұрын
You and me both!
@kevinbrennan65469 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this. the tail in the centerboard is a great idea which I will be adding to my Navigator.
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
It was an idea John Welsford mentioned on his Facebook page. I could install it while still on trailer. I should put some epoxy on the screws, another job to do. Josh
@chrisstockman9049 ай бұрын
Well done Josh, nothing like a drill to test the theories. People will always say 'yeah but it was calm', in a real knock down your practice will help and so will adrenalin!
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
Exactly! And noone should emulate 'real' conditions on their first try!
@olivei24849 ай бұрын
Good job! It can be a lot of work,, whew. I fell over when my hiking strap broke. At that point, I realized my boat was hard to get back in if I was in the water. My co-worker was no help, his comment was "Time to hit the gym and the pool." This winters plan. I need to do the capsize drill too, sigh.
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
The upside is it adds to your confidence, but yes, ability to get back in is critical. Thanks for commenting. Josh
@CaptMarkSVAlcina9 ай бұрын
Hi Josh, great video. I remember going out on my. Mirror thingy when I was say 16 on a very calm day fully clothed and thinking nothing is going to happen. And it did. I had no Choice but to go in the water to tune the yacht back up. This things I did as a kid.
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
Hey Mark. It’s been a while for me, glad I got some practice.
@sailingskismo9 ай бұрын
Good to see another dinghy without transom flaps or self-bailers. I capsized in heavy weather last year and had to bail using, like you, a collapsable bucket but for the last dregs of water I have a bilge pump that is clipped onto the side of the centreboard casing. I think yours is a bit lower than the GP14 so maybe you would have to just stow one elsewhere but it does make light work of the last bits of water. Good video and it really shows how stable that Navigator is! :)
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
I have been thinking about bilge pump but bucket, smaller bucket and sponge did the job. That’ll do for now. Thanks for your input, Cheers- Josh
@khiemtran62729 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks for doing this!
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
Hope it held up under scrutiny KT! Glad I did it but very sore today. The physicality is quite intense.
@khiemtran62729 ай бұрын
@@DinghyCruisingKingfisher Yes, that's a good learning. I find with my boat, it's quite easy to recover once, twice in a row is still okay, but if I have to do it three times quickly (which has happened in really bad conditions), then I'm already at my physical limits...
@theresnobodyhere57789 ай бұрын
great video ,practice is essential and when the real thing happens its, easy to know the drill without panic, although i would never solo sail in any condition without hook in points on the boat never know when a freak gust hits you ,also put all your gear under gunnels netted in or tied in dry bags you wont loose or destroy equipment ,sailing at sea all about being prepared ,built in redundancy ,plan A plan B and Plan C
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
Absolutely! Thanks for your input. Josh
@garymalm9 ай бұрын
First off, You haven't added sunnies straps yet!! Bad boy! Lot of effort in making this Vid, Josh. Thanks for taking the time . gary
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
Ha. It’s my strategy to replace these scratched old sunnies! Thanks for commenting, Josh
@garymalm9 ай бұрын
I am sure that strategy will work . I know from experience.@@DinghyCruisingKingfisher
@SailingKateLouise9 ай бұрын
Great Josh. I hope I never have to experience this as I don't have a centre board, cheers Paul
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
I sincerely hope I don't need it for real! I would lose so much gear over the side.
@campbellshaw86989 ай бұрын
Really great resource for Nav owners you have made there, well done; must really boost your confidence in the boat. Now we just need somebody to do one for the Pathfinder.. maybe it will end up being me.
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
I can recommend doing it, just remember how physical it is. Thanks for your comment, Josh
@afloatinawoodenboat9 ай бұрын
Definitely too cold for capsize practice here still!
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
I bet! We just had several plus 30 degree days which warmed the lake up nicely.
@user-cs6wp8jp1u9 ай бұрын
I think you could find that if you fell out in real conditions and with the masthead float and the boat floating so high, it would drift downwind faster than you could swim in a buoyancy aid and waves. It has happened to me. Sometimes it is better for the dinghy to invert and stay put.
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
Hope I don’t have to experience that!
@Stevecollinsclear8 ай бұрын
John Welsford suggests that 'in boisterous conditions' to wear a long tether- to prevent exactly that
@daijones101Ай бұрын
Perhaps a Venturi self bailer?
@keithhancock33112 ай бұрын
The blocks aren't big enough. The mainsheet on the keel housing blocked itself unnoticed when heaved to ...
@SailingWithDave9 ай бұрын
Great video. Loads of real world tips. It was very interesting to see Trim up close and letting her settle etc. I was amazed at how stable she was when boarding from the side. Even on my Lugger I really need to board from the back or she rolls a little too much to board from the side. Where did you get the Mast float from, what size was it and do you have a link to it at all?
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
Hi Dave, here is link to float but I didn’t pay this much for it. www.ebay.com.au/itm/143822283291?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=n71LZK_yQ0i&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@richardschmidt8 ай бұрын
I am impressed how well the mast float worked. When I capsized 'Bootstrap', a gaff rigged Navigator with wooden spars, she turned turtle within a few seconds..... Is the mast float inflatable? Can you please send a link?
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher6 ай бұрын
Hi Richard, yes it is an inflatable float I bought from ebay. I didn't pay this much but here is a link to the same thing: www.ebay.com.au/itm/143822283291?epid=7025599708&hash=item217c79e21b:g:S4wAAOSwrglfoh~z&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4F5gLgwoEGIUO%2BU6bLjD58TFsdFGZHCTIGY8VK%2Bma2%2FLny9%2FGfijOyDJ%2FXH9mhbFQGDzEUzk7mcVCrt%2B4YEsbmQmWWjX6a8%2BoATgRuqF1YLDJBZqETAPYCQiNmFo%2FKQMQcy9k0S89knZPUXhjpMfJcOq8n9I%2FJi581YtZq2v5XVMF36EoRnIfQTfxmIGZ53X9aq4uOC4R8UJSgfPQOSvMIRxsLQcd9lzBRnAoxy80hbA%2Bz2896MrdI95vVYUkOLR%2B1Vz4Vn%2BzHhpH8CgukE9Wny7%2BIF31OOIPABJwtVQ7M7s%7Ctkp%3ABFBM2rLyjpFj
@superwag6349 ай бұрын
Looks like half the dinghy sailors I see around wouldn’t have the physicality to reboard their vessel in the event of a capsize. Especially in proper conditions which are the ones most likely to capsize you in the first place. Also, need to be dressed for immersion, or cold water shock could pop your heart. It would be a pretty good fright in a seaway seeing your boat on its side
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
It is definitely physical!
@theresnobodyhere57789 ай бұрын
adrenalin and survival instincts would see you back on the boat and pull it up without thought or panic, as long as you know the drill which this test in calm safe water is perfect to imprint to memory
@alvarocatanzano36036 ай бұрын
Very different situation with strong wind and in deep water...exercise and losing weight helpss a lot, at 65 is no so easy to right any dinghy unless you have experience how to do it jumping into without ladder, just your arms. My Humble Advice, be alert all the time over 10 knots about your boat behaviour and avoid capsize at any means.-
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher5 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@timingersoll12579 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing that!! I need to look at adding that line on the keel. I keep saying...."This summer I'm going to do a capsize test again!" I've only done this once...10 years back...need to do it again. Did you try sailing it before bailing?? It sails surprisingly well (and stable) when filled with water which can be helpful if you have a safe harbor nearby.
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
I didn’t think of that but I did count buckets and I would have been happy to sail all day after 60. It only took me about 10 -15 minutes to empty her. I might try that next time. Thanks for commenting, Josh
@plymouthwelshboy9 ай бұрын
Really interesting video Josh. Thanks for posting really appreciate that. Some quick thoughts. .....I have knotted righting lines and boarding loops shamelessly stolen ideas from Joel Bergen and Howard rice. Haven't tested in capsize but boarding loops work well when I've been off boat swimming 😆. I have a downhaul on my centreboard which I can lock in place in the centreboard cap instead of the little line you have on bottom of CB. However yours would be safer should the boat invert. The mast float is an interesting idea. I'm trying to work out how that would look with the standing lug variation rig and spirit boom configuration. I have installed a tiny electric bilge pump on arwen powered by a tiny 12 v battery....videos of it in my channel and blog. In tandem with a frightened man and a bucket it shifts water rapidly 😆. Easy to make. Can't work out whether trim has cockpit bulkhead hatches under side and front thwarts or not. If so, did they hold our water? Brilliant video. Thanks buddy 👍👋
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
Trims forward thwart is open, just side bench tanks and front tanks for buoyancy. The hatches did let some water in but not enough to worry about. Physicality is the main requirement! I think getting up onto the centreboard is difficult, and I probably could have entered the boat as she turned but I was trying to film everything. The mast float is particular to my aluminium mast I would think. Thanks for dropping by Steve.
@paulrichardson68049 ай бұрын
I also have a down haul in cockpit to hold centreplate, as i was not sure about the line on the bottom of plate idea: mines got a chunk of lead on base and wasn’t sure where to drill a lanyard…but interested in trying one as a backup …
@kingtom643316 күн бұрын
Can you hire a smaller dinghy to sail on narrabeen lagoon?
@jasonstork96069 ай бұрын
Josh, when you get home and hose out the boat, how do you drain it? With the Argie 15, I could never hose out the inside because there was no drain bung. Luna has a self draining cockpit which is super easy to hose out and the scuppers drain it.
@DinghyCruisingKingfisher9 ай бұрын
I didn’t hose it out. A wipe down and dry out the mats was all I did. She doesn’t drain, I never use the bung. A car wash sponge gets all the excess water out.