EP: 398 - Lid Reuse, Sugar Secrets & More: Candid Conversations with Canning Pros

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Melissa K. Norris - Modern Homesteading

Melissa K. Norris - Modern Homesteading

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Today’s episode of the Pioneering Today Podcast is with master canning expert Georgia Varozza. She and I are discussing the ins and outs of safe canning, including questions such as reusing canning lids, sugar secrets, how to know if a canning recipe is safe, and so much more. For more information and any links mentioned in this episode, visit melissaknorris.com/398.
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@diannemiller4754
@diannemiller4754 Жыл бұрын
Rebel canning is definitely not approved by USDA. However, as their funding is so low and can't test all methods makes me question this government agency. Since 2020 I have less confidence in agencies who promote short-term untested required medical care. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and ideas on canning I am a canner who at times practice Rebel canning. 😊 Thanks for sharing.
@tabithasparks5739
@tabithasparks5739 11 ай бұрын
New canner here and I just had someone recommend to pour the boiling water mixture over the pickles and put on the lids without processing. I didn't know that was an unsafe thing to do, so I'm very glad I tuned into this episode!
@nicolehourie6034
@nicolehourie6034 Жыл бұрын
Hi everyone, this is Nicole from Washington state, north central along the Columbia River. I am a very new canner. A newbie! I have been collecting the equipment and supplies but only the main thing to get you started so I'm ready to start my journey with canning.
@pamelameyer5371
@pamelameyer5371 Жыл бұрын
I heard somewhere that because there are so many more hybrid tomatoes now, sometimes grown for shipping, etc., the acid levels are more variable now. Makes sense to me. Thanks for such a comprehensive discussion.
@mp-hc7uh
@mp-hc7uh Жыл бұрын
I have tried Tattler lids and the failure rate has turned me away from them. I have never been able to figure them out and quit trying because I could not accept the losses after putting all the work into canning.
@CEL403
@CEL403 Жыл бұрын
This was amazing!!!! Thank you for reiterating all the SAFE practices and informing people of the UNSAFE. It scares me that there are so many people who now have an interest in canning and preserving and they are listening to some of these rebel canners. Keep telling the truth. Thank you!
@christinesroutines
@christinesroutines Жыл бұрын
Woot! I'm here for the canning deets!! Georgia knows so much history! Yes we did the wax on top of jams growing up! So different now! The only canning of butter I do is making my own ghee to make it shelf stable. Always have been interested in the lid debate. I've been looking at geting some Tattler Lids to reuse too. Failure rate of those has made me not get them so far being a newer canner. Yes! Crack the code Georgia!! Ha!! Love the idea of using them just on jams etc. I think I might go for it!! Yessss Sourdough Podcast would be great!! Interesting about the beet details! I guess I wonder why Presto would come out with a Digital canner then? I love using it for smaller loads especially the water bath method in it with my steam canner. I agree with not canning nitrates except bacon bits. I''ll remember to leave the sage out of my sauce! Thanks for sharing the wealth of knowledge! Blessings!💞
@andreawisner7358
@andreawisner7358 11 ай бұрын
Fascinating.
@kathrync829
@kathrync829 11 ай бұрын
I thought the reason the canning tomatoes rule changed is because the old tomatoes used to have more acid than the newer hybrid tomatoes do.
@StephanieHuston
@StephanieHuston 11 ай бұрын
I agree with both of you with the Tattler lids. I had bad luck with them and don't want the wasted food, so I stopped using them.
@duaneschultz9230
@duaneschultz9230 Жыл бұрын
I just started canning. And I have worried a little bit about if I’m doing it right. All I’ve done so far is pickles and that seems to be one of the easiest ones. Thank you for all the information that you two shared today. God bless you and your families. Duane.
@melindachristensen3175
@melindachristensen3175 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@kwall1464
@kwall1464 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@chiledoug
@chiledoug Жыл бұрын
I can water to fill my cooker
@loragraziani489
@loragraziani489 Жыл бұрын
Totally off topic, but I love your bangs ;) Great video also.
@clareswares1
@clareswares1 Жыл бұрын
Have you done a canning dilly beans video?
@38jessiC
@38jessiC Жыл бұрын
We don't use artificial sweeteners or refined sugar which really eliminates being able to can most things. I wish there was more variety in canning recipes for those of us who eat a little healthier.
@MelissaKNorris
@MelissaKNorris Жыл бұрын
You can can all fruit without sugar and do no sugar jams/jellies, it's recipes with sugar that have vegetables with them you can't alter.
@dhansonranch
@dhansonranch 11 ай бұрын
Interesting talk. USDA only "suggests" as it is a legal CYA statement - If they demand things and something goes wrong it becomes a legal battle. I do follow USDA for the most part, but I have and do can some things that do not meet their suggestions. I am also a reuser of lids when they meet my qualifications for reuse (not bent, finish good, etc). I have next to no failure rate and reused in hot water bath and pressure canning. As for the tatler lids, I offer this...they are developed following the old school glass lid and rubber rings used with GEM jars. As I have a number of GEM glass lids and use them all the time, I can tell you finger tight will not work. Tighten down till you feel good resistance (don't reef on them) and then back them off just under 1/4 turn..about 1/8 turn. When they come out of the canner ensure you tighten them down good....again don't reef on them. I follow this process for glass lids and have next to no seal fail and I would suggest the process would be the same for tattler. A butter knife is all that is needed to open them by inserting the knife between the lid and the rubber. People want it close to store bought and in most cases the products that contain sugar are sweet and so most recipes are developed to replicate that - it is playing on the addictive nature of sugar. Jams may be the exception, but even then, I have cut the sugar back on that and things have worked fine. So for some recipes like bread and butter or other pickles, I have knocked the sugar back big time with no ill effect other than it is not as sweet. Commercial operations only pressure can to the same temperatures as the home canner - at least in all the research I have done on this topic. I would be curious if there is other research that would show they pressure can at a higher temp. Good Podcast.
@chiledoug
@chiledoug Жыл бұрын
HAVE A HARD TIME WITH FERMENTED PICKLE BUT MY KRAUT IS AWSOME
@chiledoug
@chiledoug Жыл бұрын
i heard someone say about TATTLER TIGHTEN THEM AFTER THEY COME OUT OF THE COOKER
@chiledoug
@chiledoug Жыл бұрын
GIVE THEM ABOUT 5 MIN LIVING TRADITIONS HOMESTEAD
@chiledoug
@chiledoug Жыл бұрын
NOT SURE WHY I AM TELLING YOU THIS LIKELY YOU ALREADY KNOW
@clareswares1
@clareswares1 Жыл бұрын
Melissa you spoke about the zucchini pineapple😜😅 recipe.if I'm not mistaken doesn't pineapple have a natural pectin in it?
@crownandcountryside
@crownandcountryside 10 ай бұрын
Please share the easy tomato soup recipe!
@MelissaKNorris
@MelissaKNorris 10 ай бұрын
It's on my website, just search MelissaKNorris.com for tomato soup
@christa7534
@christa7534 11 ай бұрын
what are your thought on dry packing potatoes to can them? Meaning pressure canning them without water. Much of what I read says its absolutely unsafe, but I have people around me who say there is nothing wrong with it.
@diannamc367
@diannamc367 11 ай бұрын
The explanation I have been given say that the liquid in the jar is needed to conduct the heat. No liquid means unreliable heat conduction. I hope that atleast gives you a a place to start.
@midwestribeye7820
@midwestribeye7820 Жыл бұрын
Oh, YES! Reducing or no sugar recipes please!
@diannamc367
@diannamc367 11 ай бұрын
I just bought the bulk package of Pamona's Perfect Pectin and made sure to get their Canning book to go with it.😊
@misspimake
@misspimake Жыл бұрын
Hi! I was just watching your garlic harvest video. I accidentally pulled the top off without the bulb. Are they still good to store after curing? or should I use them right away?
@MelissaKNorris
@MelissaKNorris Жыл бұрын
They'll be good for awhile, on hard neck I remove the stem after curing and they last about 9 months
@desertfrostfarms151
@desertfrostfarms151 Жыл бұрын
My mom still insists on canning her jam with wax
@aideecontreras7657
@aideecontreras7657 Жыл бұрын
Do u have a pickle recipe? I canned pickles last week and they are not crunchy :( not sure what I did wrong 😑 any ideas????
@ramonaadams4540
@ramonaadams4540 Жыл бұрын
Celebrating Appalachia has a channel and just out a crunchy pickle receipe up
@Kazwellian
@Kazwellian Жыл бұрын
There is a lot of "canning" videos on the internet that promote questionable methods. One video showed "canning" banana bread in the oven by cooking it in the jar and slapping a lid & ring on it as soon as it is removed from oven. I feel this is an unsafe method...but I could be wrong. Any thoughts on this?
@mehtarelingolien
@mehtarelingolien Жыл бұрын
"Oven canning" is NOT proper/safe canning, and is not recommended. For more info: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q8V_jZNqu7DPZ6M.html
@MelissaKNorris
@MelissaKNorris Жыл бұрын
Completely unsafe, one dry heat from oven isn't canning because dry heat doesn't penetrate, second you can't can bread or any wheat
@diannamc367
@diannamc367 8 ай бұрын
In addition to Melissa's answer, even in the short amount of time between taking the jars out of the oven and putting the lid on the bread in the jar is exposed to oxygen. This nullifies atleast one of the purposes of canning.
@chiledoug
@chiledoug Жыл бұрын
WATCHED MY MOTHER CAN WHEN I WAS A YOUNGSTER....QUESTION HOW MANY MEN DO YOU KNOW WHO CAN
@MelissaKNorris
@MelissaKNorris Жыл бұрын
Quite a few actually
@eugeniasalvatore4954
@eugeniasalvatore4954 Жыл бұрын
My father was the canner in our family. The rest of us prepped for him.
@ws775
@ws775 Жыл бұрын
My wife and I can together.
@paulas.8089
@paulas.8089 11 ай бұрын
My husband and I are a canning team!
@chiledoug
@chiledoug Жыл бұрын
REMINDS ME I HAVE A BATCH OF BROTH TO DO
@chiledoug
@chiledoug Жыл бұрын
USE MINE TO COOK WITH MORE LIKE A MEATY BONEBROTH
@chiledoug
@chiledoug Жыл бұрын
I HAVE BEEN MAKING BEEF CHICKEN A A FEW TURKEY PART IF I CAN GET THEM
@eugeniasalvatore4954
@eugeniasalvatore4954 Жыл бұрын
Explain why bacon can not be canned, says the lady who canned 21 pints.
@MelissaKNorris
@MelissaKNorris Жыл бұрын
Because of the fat content for one, the second is cured meat has a different texture and none of the times and pounds of pressure were tested with cured meats, so you can't ensure safety due to heat penetration being different on cured meat.
@eugeniasalvatore4954
@eugeniasalvatore4954 Жыл бұрын
@@MelissaKNorris pressure canned at time & weight for meat and my altitude. You mentioned nitrates why/how does that matter?
@MelissaKNorris
@MelissaKNorris Жыл бұрын
@@eugeniasalvatore4954 I just said it in the above reply, cured meat (aka nitrates) change the texture and density making it unsafe as stated above
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