Yeah it's a shame people get told it's for large rooms. They're missing out!

May I ask what kind of AV receiver you are running?

@@keyzone72 I'm running a 9.2 Pioneer Elite SC-57 receiver with front wides in my bedroom with 4 Infinity TSS-1100 as surrounds, 5 Infinity TSS-4000 speakers for the fronts, and 2 Infinity PS-8 subs. I'm running an 11.2 Onkyo TX-NR929 receiver with fronts wides in my living room with 9 Infinity P-363 speakers as the bed layer, 2 Infinity P-C350 center speakers as height speakers, and 4 Infinity PS-312 subs. Both receivers have DTS Neo:X upmixers which I leave enabled at all times, and both receivers are THX Ultra2 Plus certified. Sure you could go buy a newer 5.2 or 7.2 receiver with Dolby Atmos and DTS:X for $1,000 with a bunch of licensing fees and streaming apps that will be obsolete in a few years with zero software/firmware support but it won't have enough channels to make use of overheads and won't support wides or have DTS Neo:X which in my opinion sounds better than DSU and DTS Neural:X. Also those will be lower model receivers with not the best build quality, not the best amp sections, and not the best DAC's. I prefer buying top of the line receivers from 10 years ago that have excellent build quality, amp sections, great DACs, great internal components and power supplies, great upmixers with support for front wides that still support the Dolby True HD and DTS HD Master cores that the modern object based codecs need to function so they aren't going to be obsolete for a while not to mention I didn't have to pay for all those stupid licensing fees and useless apps, if you want great sound, buy CDs or buy a Topping D50s DAC, use the USB audio out of your phone or laptop and stream lossless Amazon HD to your system, that way you can ensure that you are always up to date because everyone upgrades to the new state of the art phone every year, they should stop putting streaming apps in receivers and instead put that money into sound quality where it matters. Not only that but when I play Dolby Atmos and DTS:X movies my front wides scream because that signal is still panned hard left since the objects have been folded down into the core, and a lot of movies are mixed for front wides. Even if the metadata mixes the objects down into the 7.1 core it does it in a way where the more modern matrix style legacy processers like Neo:X will still place objects in the front wides and overhead very accurately because it has been encoded. Backward compatibility is still a consideration in the mixing process and matrix encoding has been going on for decades. The only issue with using and older receiver is it won't support 4k or 8k or HDR or high refresh rate and even if you use 2 separate HDMI cable one to receiver and one to the display it will not let your TV pass anything over 1080p 60Hz because of issues with EDID handshake, basically your old receiver is the weak link in the video chain and brings the TV down with it. But there is a solution. Buy a simple cheap "2 Port HDMI 10.2G Splitter, HDCP 2.2" that has 2 outputs. One goes to the TV and one to the receiver, now you have 4k/8k HDR and lossless surround! 👍😀

Awesome! Love hearing great feed back like this!

I've got the same set up, and I think that is the sweet spot. You can get amazing sound from 5.2.4 I could go for 7.2.4 in the near future, so I'll give it a try, but there is no way I could go to 9.2.4 , I don't have possible place for wide speakers in my living room.

Awesome! That's the way to run subs! Those that aren't running all the subs as a single system need to watch the sub setup Playlist.

@@hometheatergurus I've watched most of your post on subs, might of missed it though, even playing music now it sounds great, more defined, a richer base, have you ever heard of an Australian band called The Cruel Sea, their music revolves around base, you'll know if your subs are rights playing their music.

When I do room plans with wides I usually use an Inwall in a 30 degree baffle but it's also a very wide dispersion speaker. Yours sounds like it should work fine with the pivoting tweeter.

Thanks so much. And yep. You'll soon be tired of my room. 😁. Once the carpet is replaced (hopefully next week) I can put everything back in it. Then i just have to finish trimming it out.

Thanks! You'll love wides with the Anthem.

Awesome! Shoot me an email when you're ready. It's in the video description.

😂.. Thanks Mikey!

Try using dsu. I know emotiva had /has an issue with the update last November that gave dsu wide support so I don't know it that's working for the emotivas.

@@hometheatergurus It's a Monolith, but upmixing doesn't use wides unless you turn on wide synth.

Hey Erod, do you find that the 6 atmos channels are worth it? I’m wondering if going from 4 to 6 enhances the experience enough to justify the upgrade. Would love to hear your thoughts.

@@usmankhalid990 No, not right now anyway because of how sound is processed. That may change though, so run the wiring.

@@erod9088 sounds good, thanks for your input!

You're welcome!

For some odd reason false rumors get started and people spread them as fact. But yes I agree!

Yeah I'd love to see what it can do!

Although I just bought a JBL SSP-55, I am very interested in this for others and maybe a second setup.

No a bipolar is a diffused sound. It can't place sound at a point it isn't physically at but it does have strong reflections as does a true wide dispersion monopole . You also have to place the mlp on axis to get the bipole effect so any time you see them installed where the seats of off to the side of the speaker it's installed wrong. AS for 5.1 vs 7.1 that depends on the room. If you have the room behind you for a 7.1 then you absolutely be running a 7.1. If your seat is on the wall then you don't have the room so you should stick with a 5.1. You're after what gives the best sound and sometimes the room and seating limits that.

Thanks Stharling!

😂.. Hu.. Sorry mam no I don't know where he got that idea. 😜

@@hometheatergurus 🤣🤣🤣

haha.....Man that's a tough one. I want both.. ! :)

Usually this means you have a larger gap to the surrounds in which case wides are even more important .

Yep I actually mention that very thing in the video.

@@hometheatergurus sorry bother, I was a bit drunk when I wrote this 😂

Denon 6700

Unfortunately not. Hopefully I'll soon have the budget processor I mentioned in for review. It could be a home run especially for guys on tight a budget or those just not wanting to spend an arm and a leg.

If you know how to place the atmos correctly, and no not at 45/45, do 9.1.4 hands down.

If you can swing the $ do it. Current upmixers support wides and many are usually watching more non atmos than native and doing mostly upmixing anyways. Now for going beyond a 9.1.6 I wouldn't bother unless you have multiple rows and really want to get the best sound possible for all rows.

Whoever told you that..... Ignore them from now on..🤦‍♂️😂

@@hometheatergurus thanks!!! Will do. What speakers should be used for wides: surround or the same as the left and right front?

@@ezrabranderhorst ideally the same speaker is used for every speaker in the room but that's usually not realistic. If you can match the mains great, if not match the surrounds assuming they're not a bipole or dipole.

@@hometheatergurus hmmm interesting. My surrounds are bipolar (focal sr900). Didn’t know they wouldn’t be good for wides? Hope they are good for surrounds (7.1 system). Would be hard to have my main front speakers (focal aria948) due to their size and how my door leading out of the room would be where a wide would be.

Angles are angles so depth doesn't matter as long as the speakers are at the same angle. The speed objects pan is the same. If a sound moves from a main at 26 degrees to a rear at 150 degrees the timing to get from one to the other is exactly the same in a short room or a long room. Depth does help you get the rears further away so you get better imaging and better coverage but that's not a timing issue.

Not all atmos have them used but many do. Fortunately the upmixers got an update last year that allows the upmixers to use wides.

The screen is visible on the right and I actually point out what speakers are what. I actually point out the main, wide and surround several times. I even Mark the surround and wide with tape as they can't be seen and explain what speaker is behind the tape. I even explain how objects move from main to surround and point at them as we talk about panning. Go to the 1 minute mark.

yeah I guess you could look at it that way. I think of more as a transition speaker but like a center is does help anchor sounds to a particular area.

If a speaker is at 90 it's a surround. Speakers are labeled based on their location. A speaker that is in the tolerance window of a wide (50-70) would be labeled as a wide.

@@hometheatergurus okay, thanks, I appreciate your response 👍

As shown in the video it's not about sound stage. But yes good speakers setup well will create a phantom image that will make it sound like the center is on.

No I'm standing between the left main and left surround. The center is behind the screen at 0 degrees. The wide goes between the main and surround.

Cant' hurt..😂. I'd do it although they should be spread more as you know.

@2525KPS Your numbers you are “stuck with” are not that far off Anthony Grimani’s recommendations. Dude is pretty knowledgeable too. AND I love the HTGuru here too. Good stuff!

Ha... luckily lower priced options like the Anthem AVM70, MRX 1140 can handle it.

This is what I was wondering. Watching some of the other HT youtubers, front wides are seldom used other than some DTS: X Pro content. Dolby Atmos which has the largest majority of the market, wides or more than 4 height channels are not available in their content. I want front wides but honestly don't think they would be used enough to justify the cost.

Wides are used with ATmos just not all the time. It's a toss up. However the current versions of the upmixers do use them so non Atmos content can be upmixed to utilize them.

I have two 7300s here still boxed up. Just waiting on the carpet in the theater so I can get everything back in there. I've had a handful of clients use them and they love them. Keep an eye on the channel as I'll soon be doing a video on them.

it's a speaker that bridges the gap between the main and surround. It also helps widen the sound stage.

They absolutely need to be aimed. I've showed mine in a few build updates so look at these on the channel. We cover my setup pretty well. The top front and rear are silver sats on brackets aimed perfectly and the top middle is the sat 9 rotatable. As I'm a dealer this is my triad demo room so I wanted show off that insanely awesome rotatable 9.

Actually atmos is angle based so tall ceilings are irrelevant. See ep 3. They're placed at specific degrees, if that happens to be on a wall because if high ceilings then that's where it goes. The quality of the sound isn't effected unless you ignore the angles. And yes I would absolutely do it. As for the devs your subs are badd ass already. If u need more then sure devs

@@hometheatergurus thanks. I’ll check out episode three.

Me too. I have a video I show clients of 5.1 upmixed with DSU, all amps are off except wides and tops (what's upmixed) the phone recording is next to the wide and it's ridiculous how active they are even with a Blu-ray menu.

DSU now supports wides so anything 5.1 will be Upmixed to use wides and atmos. Not long ago it didn't support them. They are extremely active just as much as Upmixed atmos. Its only with native atmos that it's hit or miss and they're not always used. This video is only explaining why they're benifical. It's not a video on what native atmos content has wides.and ehar doesn't.

Sometimes true but I've done very few rooms that we wanted wides and couldn't do them.

Nov 2020 updates started rolling out to allow the upmixers to utilize wides.

You may be responding to the wrong video, maybe one on 2 channel setup??? With a multichannel surround sound system we can place objects anywhere in the room and in a 3 dimensional space with newer formats like Atmos. We want a wide sound stage but absolutely don't want to smear the focus of our mains position as we need it for accurate object placement. The purpose of the wide is to help transition from main to surround, not to extend the main. We want to minimize the time sound is present in the surround for the reasons in the video. By your response, I'm assuming you didn't watch the video or maybe you did respond to the wrong video.

@@hometheatergurus What i am saying is you don't need extra speakers around the room All you need is the two front stereo speakers when used with cross-talk cancellation gives you are more accurate 3 dimensional soundstage.

@@aussierob7177 You're missing the point of the wides and immersive formats. We don't want Mains to smear our room acoustics with a 3D sound from 2 speakers , WE don't want mains to smear with the wides or the surrounds, or the rears or the atmos. We need everything discrete and we don't want to smear the location of any speaker as that smears our object placement. Surround sound has different goals that you would in a 2 channel setup and what you're trying to do would be very destructive to a well designed immersive format room. We specifically control the reflections of the mains for a wide sound stage but also to not smear with the other speakers. The wide is used to bridge the main and surround by placing an actual source between them which doesn't mimic a reflection but has accurate timing as objects pass. This helps tremendously for our side seats as it minimizes how long objects are present in the close proximately surrounds and gives them actual panning vs the sound jumping to the surround and sounding unnatural. This in not something that can be in any way simulated using 2 channel CTC methods. We are adding sources to accurately control objects as they move around the room.

@@hometheatergurus Do you know what cross-talk cancellation is ?

"...All you need is ..." I find these Debbie Downer responses amusing. When I considered going from Stereo to 5.1 over 20 years ago, I got a similar response. Then when I asked about going from 5.1 to 7.1, I was told it was overkill and a waste of money. But EVERYONE that was skeptical and discouraged me from adding more speakers than what THEY HAD and what THEY WERE USED TO, in actuality NEVER OWNED, TRIED OUT, or EVEN HEARD the very system they reject. There will always be people who claim "...all you need is..." and if what they have and use works for them, then great. But the home theater snobbery that some demonstrate really adds nothing constructive to the discussion. There are LOTS of people reporting that they are VERY pleased after investing in FRONT WIDE speakers, and others that HAVE tried it and were not happy wit h the results. And it is THOSE PEOPLE who bring the most value to the conversation.

Emotiva MC1 $1099 ... when they are in stock.

They are as active as surrounds if not more so. DSU does a fantastic job.

Thanks Ty!

Hey some don't like awesomeness..😜 Just kidding! :)

? Many current consumer brands support it. One being anthem. Every brand pretty much now has 9.1.6 options.

A center is behind the screen (in this room) and is between the mains. A wide is between the main and surround.

I can understand the confusion. It sure looks like he is pointing to the Center Channel speaker position to me.

I point it out in the video but yeah a white board would have helped. Current upmixers do support wides.

At one time yes but current upmixers do support wides.

@@hometheatergurus Actually, they don't, unless you have a wide synth option.

@@erod9088 the update was Nov 2020. I know emotiva had some issues that wouldn't allow dsu to utilize wides. I'm not sure that's fixed yet. Not sure if you have an emotiva but some processors did have issues.

@@hometheatergurus I have a Monoprice HTP-1 16-channel processor.

@@erod9088 I kind of figured that based on your reply. It's a bug they know about but I guess haven't figured out how to fix yet.

I have the same problem with my denon 8500. Just can't process the wides. What's a good receiver to do this?

Denon A1H

If you have center issues off center you need a better center. This is common with horizontal centers which often have nulls off axis.

I am very interested in the PrePro and amp, but I want to see measurements of the amp to confirm it can reach it’s claimed output.

I'm sure eventually I'll be bench tested. The specs claim 180 watts RMS/channel; THD

@@hometheatergurus sweet, looking forward to the review. Those are some nice looking amps too.

Thanks Mike, it's my artificial turf.. 👍👍

Na... It's too easy to hang it and simply remove it in seconds. Besides going behind a screen is something people do once every few years at most. I do have some projects lined up. Motion activated poster light box, diy sound door, hammer TV stand with hidden subs.

@Justin Barkevich I would like to see that too.

@@hometheatergurus do they.I been behind my AT screen, I lost count. Lots of professional cinema JBL x5 behind the screen, that are set-up in same way as 70mm, SDDS. for the atmosPlusIIIx system. Often JBL horns may need re-aligning of the compression drivers so I can get them turned/eq down to 300Hz even thou sine wave manages 250Hz. but that is too low and 300Hz at best for special movie shows like , 'Star Trek II the wrath of Khan' THX sound system 38.000kw.

Yeah it definitely does!

The current version of DSU does support wides. That update was Nov 2020. Many films and content has fantastic atmos and the upmixers are awesome as well. Usually when people are under whelemed it's a setup issue like aiming the atmos straight down and they're way too far off axis.

Been reading my posts or watching my videos cos I mentioned about this 8 or so plus years ago on a JBL forum. Background (retired) ex cinema projectionist UCI and Warner bros. UCI that I worked at when it was brand new 1989 to 1990 and then few years later Warner bros and now, retired from that cos 4k cinema isn't cinema okay lets move on. UCI used experimental overhead surrounds an and that was 1989. All speakers was EV. 35mm vic V in all screens Dolby CP55 with SRA5. I have memory capacity to remember each movie how it sounded felt like at many cinemas/auditoriums especially the THX cinemas. I started hearing this occasional phantom sound image between surround L R and front L R , phantom image floating between and thought that can be solved with a Pro Logic decoder looking at the panned signal of frequency/phase/level and place the sound in a new speaker position, easy. I never connected up the decoders for it and less than a year or two later I see there is front/wide available on a AVR. Internet is full of spies from companies peeking sneaking around, cos they are out of ideas and need to steal ideals. Its okay my thread posted still exists and would confirm the date. The Dolby EX, My idea and shared that idea in 1998 over the phone long distance, 9pm UK time (since uk offices was closed at time) and this, is before most of the forum sites existed and would have gladly shared the idea back then. fing dolby labs are. Well I spoke to eric kristofferson dolby labs new york, he was so interested in my idea I mean he was way too interested. I used a millennium dts decoder at time and connected the stereo surrounds to Yamaha DSR70pro and wow, Goldeneye dts, sounded way better it actually worked. the idea came to mind in 1989 while watching a movie in projection and listening to the booth monitor and thinking how those 70mm Indy 3, at the CIC Empire Leicester Square sounded with the split-surrounds and often I felt or it made me feel disorientated with the centre phantom sound image. So there it is. Overhead surrounds and I call them that cos they are not called atmos speakers, okay. atnos is an encode/decode just like all the rest. nobody I mean nobody calls their other speakers on the ceiling dtsx speakers, now do they? Overheard surrounds. Actually overhead surrounds flush x6 in the ceiling have been used with 70mm Cinerama at the Bournemouth closed down original odeon and even played part for 'star wars' feb '78 and heard that star destroyer like nobodies business in screen 1. screen 2 downstairs even used overhead surrounds and side/back wall surrounds so it was fully "immersive storytelling" and I bet dolby labs have swept that cinema under the mat along with UCI experimental 1989 overhead surround. I bet you didn't see this post coming now? Overhead surrounds are basically stereo pairs of heights 1 2 and 3 on Denon avc-x8500h, and I use some cheap Dolby SA10 which is basically a modified Dolby CP45 as well as using some CP45 in my THX JBL reference x110 JBL cinema pro speakers at 38.000kw THX. I use the decoders connected up, and yes I use the pre-outputs from the AVR connected to some pro cinema Dolby Stereo CP200 and duel pair Sony SDDS D3000. Very complex wiring that isn't for the average home cinema. So with SA10 connected to the stereo signal I now get new centre overhead that I called DOG channels. One DOG for height 1, second DOG for height 2 and third DOG for height 3, so the signal often moves around zigzagging/side to side/ along the speakers far more accurately than any dubbing stage/cinema or even trinnov owners home cinema and it is easy-peasy to set-up. I also run matrix below surround and not one single home cinema has such a system like mine. Oh I seen some neat ideas like, bass boss hover boards, rather cool I think. So until a proper atmos mark II version with discrete stereo pair arrays for below surround comes about, I shall be enjoying, 'unbroken' at the limit or 'gravity'. As for front wides on the Denon AVC-X8500H sigh, sigh, sigh the trade-off if I want front/wide I got to trade off the back surround, screw you dolby labs. I may as well connect up the other atmos avr and program that for back surround and then program front/wide in the denon and with both AVR connected via HDMI like, someone else did I may as well do that.

Building this stinking house that never ends....:). Finally almost done and getting back to normal.

The left one goes between the front left speaker, and left side surround speaker (you can imagine where the right one goes). You can see them in a Dolby 9.1.4 setup. At the moment a lot of Atmos tracks are hard coded with 'only' 7 base channels, so you won't hear them unless you use an upmixer, but more films should come out utilising the front wides. If building now, I'd add them. If you've already built, then check whether your processor can use them.

@@Triggaaar didn't know that's what they were called. Thank you!

I know he like wides but I've never seen him state this. This is taught by Trinov which is where I first heard it. But Grimani is one excellent designer so I'm sure he knows this.

@@hometheatergurus yeah there is an old Home Theater Geeks episode where Scott Wilkinson was interviewing Grimani and he stated that he believed the Wide channels were more important than the height channels so he said in an 11 channel configuration to do 9 channels on the ground and only 2 overhead. Later in another interview he said he was happy channel counts were going above 11 now so you can put 4 channels overhead and still have Wide channels.

@@FURognar if I'm it mistaken Thats ep 178. I know the ep you're speaking of. :)

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Ahh. It's not that much more.. 😁

😂😂 So I guess I'm a bad influence.. 🤷‍♂️😁

Why is that even important at all? 🤔. It's my winter hair as I'm follically challenged, and it's cool, and I like the way it brings out my eyes... 😉

Not a lot but anytime you're watching anything in 7.1, 5.1 etc, they are used every bit as much as the surrounds and rears. DSU does an amazing job of upmixing to them.

@@hometheatergurus But only if you use expensive High-End equipment such as a Trinnov, right?

@@jonathan9506 nope. Trinnov oddly doesn't upmix wides. Anthem, many denon and marantz can upmix wides. It's discussed in this video.

@@hometheatergurus Maybe, but i do have a Atmos/Auro 13.x setup and I can truly say, there is no sound on the wides, maybe 1/20 movies. Use Maverick, use Nolan, use anything, there is no sounfmd. Why? Because the studios „save money“ once the tone Master wants to create the Sound. It‘s still too expensive, unfortunately… My opinion

@@jonathan9506 yeah we know they're not always used in a mix. Anytime you're watching anything 7.1 or less they are alive! That's not even an opinion but just how it is. If budget allows I highly recommend them.

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If you aren't blown away by atmos it's poor gear or poor setup or both. Done right it's amazing! Unfortunately atmos is very often poorly laid out with heights, huge overhead gaps, downfiring speakers that don't aim etc and end up with very poor performance and a sad owner.

@hometheatergurus Not Remotely True!!! Dolby Atmos is a Gimmick. The amount of homes that have a True Dolby Atmos Set-up like you suggest is less than 1%. Most people do not even have a Sound Bar they just use their TV speaker. Dolby Atmos Sound Bars are selling 1,000 times (Actually a lot more than that...) more than Dolby Atmos Surround Sound Systems. And they don't provide True Dolby Atmos. They are horrible actually. People don't want their living rooms to have the Ugly Set-up required for your Dolby Atmos System. Speakers on stands all around the seating is a Big No for 99% or more of homes. The people who actually do this are extremely rare. Women, wives and girlfriends are completely opposed to having all those Speakers. Not to mention they are opposed to the cost. So what happens is they compromise and buy a $200.00 to $400.00 Sound Bar system. Like I said, I spent thousands of dollars on my Dolby Atmos 7.1.2 System. You completely ignored my 1st comment. The Movies and TV I watch almost never use Dolby Atmos Speakers. There are many honest Profesionals in the AV community that admit most Films and Movies don't use Dolby Atmos. Only some movies and TV from the last 10 years used Dolby Atmos while filming. And most of them did a horrible job with Dolby Atmos. These honest AV professionals hear from people complaining daily about never hearing any Audio from their Dolby Atmos Speakers. People don't hear anything from their Atmos Speakers because what they are watching was not mixed in Dolby Atmos. Also, the Movies that use Dolby Atmos they still only use the specific Dolby Atmos Speakers at most 30% of the time. I still have all the equipment and Speakers I bought for Dolby Atmos. I just now have it Set-up for Surround Sound instead of Dolby Atmos. No I am Not impressed by Dolby Atmos. In the Movie Theater the Speakers are way too loud and the Dolby Atmos is very Fatiguing. I bought my Dolby Atmos Surround Sound System because I built 2 Movie Theater Rooms in my home. I became fed up with the horrible Audio and Video I paid too much for at the Movie Theaters. So I invested a whole lot of Money in Audio Video Systems for my Home Theaters. After discovering my Dolby Atmos Speakers almost never came on I switched off Dolby Atmos and set my Dolby Atmos Speakers to Surround Sound. In Surround Sound the Speakers are used a lot more than when I had them used for Dolby Atmos. I enjoy the Sound of Surround Sound much better than Dolby Atmos As do the Vast Majority of people who have zero desire to have Dolby Atmos in their homes. Countless people have sold off all their Dolby Atmos systems and went to a 2.1 system or a 5.1 system. These people are all over the internet telling their story. Streaming Companies do Not even offer True Dolby Atmos. They pretty much steam 5.1 Audio. Very few Movies Streamed actually have True Dolby Atmos. The only real Dolby Atmos is on Blu-ray. So, to experience True Dolby Atmos you have to buy the Movie. You act as if there was never Good Home Theater Audio before Dolby Atmos. That is a huge Lie. The Majority of Audio Video Profesionals do not even like Dolby Atmos. They make KZfaq videos and explain that it is a Huge Waste of Money to pay for Dolby Atmos especially when Normal Surround Sound Sounds better because more than 99% of what you will watch was Not made for Dolby Atmos.

@@JesusSavesSinners I'll just say you're completely off base here. Atmos is no gimmick. It's awesome. You just have so many with such poor setups they get bad performance. Are sound bar atmos and bouncing off the ceiling gimmicky, yeah but that's not a proper setup either. Done right.. Key word "right" it's awesome. If you need help with your setup join our Facebook page under the same name. Post pics of your setup and you'll get the needed help. Just because many many not care about having atmos doesn't make it a gimmick. I do over 100 designs a year and I'd say 1/3 of those are in living rooms and many times All speakers are hidden. If you're not comfortable with adding multiple speakers that's perfectly OK. Home theater as a hobby isn't for everyone. As For content, take netflix. It's getting to the point with new releases it's almost hard to find shows and movies that aren't in atmos and the mixes have gotten extremely good over the years as studios have gotten better at mixing in atmos. Those not in atmos can also be Upmixed.

@@hometheatergurus Wow you obviously just comment without reading what I have written. I told you repeatedly that I have all the Dolby Atmos Speakers. I paid thousands of dollars 💸 💵 💲 🤑 💰 for my Dolby Atmos Set-up. I hate Dolby Atmos. It is a Lie that it Sounds Awesome. In fact 99% of Movies and TV shows do not even use Dolby Atmos and when Atmos is used it is at maximum used in 30% of the Movie. Dolby Atmos is a Gimmick. It is just a way for manufacturers to sell more Speakers and more expensive AV Receivers. The actual market for Dolby Atmos is in Sound Bar Systems. Around 40% of all homes have a Sound Bar while less than 1% of homes have a Dolby Atmos Receiver and Dolby Atmos Speakers. The public is Not interested in buying true Dolby Atmos Systems. Dolby Atmos is a Gimmick.

@@JesusSavesSinners I read it. You're system had some kind of issues. Placement, toe in, output settings. If you need help reach out on our Facebook page. This is a home theater page where most have systems. This page may not be for you.