Max just released Dune:Prophecy trailer, I believe it’s gonna be a series. It came out a few days ago, a prequel to the movies

Something missing from the books is that it is like the Middle Ages in that strategic alliances and marriages were very important. And the politics were very important. But, The last lines of book Jessica, tells Chani that Irulan “will have the name, yet she'll live less than a concubine-never to know a moment of tenderness from the man to whom she's bound. While we, Chani, we who carry the name of concubine-history will call us wives."

every time they used the voice at the theaters i jumped lol

This movie is what IMAX was designed for. It was an absolutely incredible experience.

this is what hollywood has lost. star wars, star trek, lord of the rings, they all had the one thing that is lacking today. great writing, and filming brought together to make a story come alive.

She's fantastic in these films and MI.

It's always fun to hear Denis Villeneuve talk about Rebecca, because in most interviews it sounds like he practically worships the ground she walks on. He's a man who recognises talent, that's for sure

I don't think she's underrated at all. I've seen a ton of praise for her and rightfully so. She's amazing in everything she's in. She can do it all, drama, action, thrillers.

[distorted voices] All of us

She steals every scene she's in! Especially after going full Reverend Mother 😊

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hahahahahahahahahahha!! this is really good xD

I mean star wars didn't earn a billion until the force awaken.so yeah it will be great if dune 3 could earn a billion.

I really hope it does loved the books and I just hope that he can do it!!❤

​@@shubhradipdas7189The phantom menace made a billion at the box office and the inflation adjusted gross of A New Hope is over $3 billion.

​@@shubhradipdas7189 check out the second, it's the best

@Latifah-uq7zr how the fuck would anyone other than BM know that you dumb bitch? Just fucking wait and see

Do you know what language they’re using in the movie?

@@vtetrooo1312 Chakobsa

@@SMNBLMRDM Réal language? Do you know from which country? Thanks

@@vtetrooo1312 No it's not a real language, it's a made up one.

​@@vtetrooo1312 It's a conlang (constructed language).

(Possible spoilers for future films) I thought Paul wasn't "pseudo" KH, he just simply refused his role, and paid for it with his foresight

The reason they planned for Feyd to marry fem-Paul is because KH needed the Harkonan bloodline in him, but Paul already did because his mom is Harkonan, which is why he could become the KH at all. If his mom wasn’t Harkonan, he couldn’t be KH.

He's actually interested in acting and being a serious actor. The Rock is just concerned with being a "cool" superstar.

@@MamadNobari Rock is just living out his WWE fantasy irl, always acting as if life is some celebrity show

The Final Boss slander is insane

The "fun" thing about lasguns and shields is that you can't tell at what end the nuclear explosion will occur.

I don't get where this "Stilgar is comedic relief" is coming from. There is nothing even remotely funny about his transformation from a fanatic to a zealot. It's just sad and frightening.

This movie really showed me that there’s a CRAZY different from theater to theater in sound quality. Some places do their sound design much better than others.

I actually got goosebumps seeing it the first time. Steven Spielberg was interviewing Denis for a Director's Guild podcast and said about the sandworm riding scene "it's one of the greatest things I have ever seen. Ever!" That's some seriously high praise.

Home theater systems do so as well. I have a pretty decent one (not overpowered for the space I have) and it was quite the treat.

Only movie stuff. No book lore.

Yep, we are talking about the movie, not the books. This is the reaction to the movie, not the books

@@user-yz5ug4kh2q The book wouldn’t have come with such silly script🤣

​@di3486 Aw, arent you cute.

Always ❤

This exactly why they (fremen) made sure to take down the chopper before using the laser.

I was going to say this, someone already covered it well here.. many people ask the same thing and go why not the laser and I am like - NOOOOO.

That's also part of how swords are still in fashion.

Your wife is WRONG!

Lol i watched the first movie and made me obsessed with dune, now the second was visually stunning but the script was underwhelming.

​@billstephens396 always gotta have that guy that just denies other ppl exist in this huge world we live in that have their OWN fricken OPINIONS!!! Hope u can find someone to open ur eyes to spread love & kindness to ur fellow man.

@@jenloveshorror This statement makes you wrong as well... Sorry, not sorry...

@@billstephens396 sure

Huh. I'm surprised he doesn't have serving boys instead of girls then.

I'm biased because Villeneuve is a hometown boy, and I first saw his shit when I was a teenager and when he was barely a full adult... but besides his obvious storytelling abilities, the guy has an eye for talent and for surrounding himself with talented people. And I guess the charm to get them on board 😀

@@ponfed he hasn’t put out a bad film and has “quickly” established himself as one of the new generation of directors u have to work with.

@Knightowl1980 The 'quickly' is where some of my chauvinism comes in. Cause he was putting out short docs on Bhutan or Thailand in Quebec in the mid nineties.. I was *there* growing up and watching him grow up. That's why I'm qualifying and edging. I might have rose colored glasses, you know?😉 But you are right that when he started to *hit* in Hollywood.. let's say Incendies onwards.. he very quickly became a force to be reckoned with. Undeniably...

Arrival still makes me cry, and I will go out on a limb and say it's at least a contender for his best movie..

you are wise in the ways of the desert

This is the only other series that i've watched so much that its getting closer to my lord of the rings binges through out my life. I've legitimately seen LOTR 14 times (the entire trilogy) from memory, other times, it was in the background while my friends and I were gaming. I've seen Dune 2 at least a total of 7 times now, i love it so much. This is the 2nd movie series that has done that to me, and beat the matrix.

I think he did that as a final desperate attempt to kill Paul and save himself. He called his father weak, knowing that Paul will have to challenge him (or his champion, because he was old) to a duel.

Yeah he was lying and quite obviously so. Leto was a threat to him he knew it. I veiw it as more of an attempt to goad Paul.

I interpreted it as a taunt out of anger, frustration and unwillingness to accept his defeat. For the same reason he said that Paul should bow at his feed. It is dishonest, but he can't help himself but to spite Paul for daring to challenge his place as emperor in such a disrespectful manner.

A surprising amount of reactors still see him as the hero even by the end... That's what the third movie is for🤣🤣

They didn't really go into it, but there were absolutely moments when Answer and the Oak were hootin' and hollerin' and Mason seemed to have some kind of haunted look on his face. Not sure if I read it right, but I think he felt it

@@ladrac198 Yeah, it's surprising that so many of them are rooting for a man and his mother who declare a "holy war" and whose followers are portrayed as an army of fanatics. Perhaps Denis Villeneuve should have used the original terminology from the books: "jihad". This would probably have set off many more alarm bells in the Western consciousness because of the word's more negative connotations. Although it and a holy war or crusade mean basically the same thing.

For many reactors it doesn't pop. And they actually changed some moments to make it MORE obvious. Still flies over the head.

Messiah is going to break a lot of "casual viewer's" hearts I think. I hope the 3rd book gets adapted as well, but I'm not sure about God Emperor - that might be too out there for most people.

"He emotionally wasn't strong enough" No, Paul had empathy. Leto II is a sociopath, thanks to his upbringing, and he has no problem becoming a heartless dictator hyperfocused on the ideal of humanity in the future, while causing untold suffering to billions in his thousands of years of rule. Again, Herbert warning the reader about the awful reality of authoritarian leaders. That so many Leto fans try to explain away his monstrous behavior just goes to reinforce how psychology has noted a marked uptick in antisocial personality disorders in the last 50 years.

@@rikk319 And yet, Leto II is what was needed to save humanity from extinction. There have been great leaders and terrible leaders who were sociopaths. There will always be need of people like that to make the tough choices when times are hard, the rest of the time, keep those people as far away from power as you can, until they are needed again.

@@RogunK "These" kind of people tend to be the cause of the problems...and then we need more of them to fix it? No thanks, let's just leave them out of the equation in the first place.

@@rikk319 You forgot one specific point : Dune was already been terraformed by Fremens for centuries by the time the Atreides arrived. It's not shown in the movies but is described in the book. So the desert will eventually fade, and Dune will become green and blue again, destroying the worms and the spice production with or without intervention. So, in a nutshell, the Empire will crumble, revolts will be repressed by force, people will starve to death and humanity will return to pre-industrial time in no time on every planet. Don't forget there will be in the first time a politic mess and a struggle for power since the treachery of the Emperor will be revealed by Harkonnens. So you have to choose between two directions : 1) Let things go its way, doing nothing, and hundreds of billions of people dying of isolation, war and starvation in the long term. -> no more central power ; -> no space-time cuts in galactic travels ; -> maybe the slow and final end of humanity ? 2) Doing something to unite humanity by holy war, dozens of billions people dying by your action in the short term, but saving ultimately hundreds of billions dying the worst way possible. -> still a remnant of central power for some time (until technology has advanced enough to travel in space without spice) ; -> humanity reforged without the influence of the spice, all types of prophets and precognition leaders. For the point of view of Paul and his successor, it's a moral conflict of the "Trolley problem" in the grand scale. *An utilitarianism moral dilemma,* which cannot be comprehend by the all the people suffering and dying because of the choice of one single man to turn the direction of the train. So, yeah, Leto II is a sociopath who chooses to "save" humanity from its demise. He's not doing good obviously, he's doing bad for the greater good. Maybe there would have been better options, if the Bene Gesserit had not played with the lignages for so long to create extrasensory peoples, or if they didn't played with religion and create an ultimate fanatic army ready to leach on the Empire with or without the existence or the survival of their messiah... That's why Leto II is so obsessed and angry towards the Bene Gesserit, his dictatorship style is because of their past choices, but he's not mean to destroy this group but teach them the harshest lesson possible, to let them evolve the best way possible (and the two books after is about the point of view of the Bene Gesserit). It's not one man fault, *it's the fault of all humanity until this point in the story and the dependence of spice to stabilize the society.* Leto II get humanity off spice to free itself of strong leaders, false beliefs, and extrasensory people. He's not a hero, he's not a good guy, hes' not a great leader, he's a martyr willingly sacrificing his humanity to save humanity. Was he right ? Nobody will never know in Dune, nor the readers, because it's obvious Frank Herbert wanted to reveal something about another space related threats in one or two more books but had not the time to do so... which is sad.

@@Zagrakhen If spice leads to the problems, then perhaps humans losing space travel and existing on separate planets would be best. How exactly would that lead to extinction any sooner? Humans would evolve separately on each planet, and not have to worry about some over-arching despotism running everything in the galaxy. I've read the books, too. I just find Herbert's premises about human evolution and extinction and there being "only one way forward" with the Golden Path rather absurd. You don't teach "humanity" because "humanity" isn't a hive mind. Each new generation, each new individual, has to be educated to develop properly. There's no way to teach a "lesson" and have humanity learn it for all time, because "humanity" is a concept. Human beings, each individual one, is the reality. In my opinion, Leto II was even more misguided than Paul. If Herbert was trying to show how a single human trying to make decisions for everyone else was a very bad idea, he succeeded. If he was trying to show that Leto II was ultimately right, then he's plowing under everything he taught about charismatic leaders being bad in the first two books. Either way, it shows that he had some good ideas, but getting your philosophical lessons from fiction isn't always the best idea.

I thought exactly the same thing! The LOTR trilogy had been my #1 favourite for twenty years... Now they're tied with Dune! I just hope Messiah will be equally incredible.

Not quite there.

Dune has surpassed LOTR in all categories..Hopefully a new show will show more.eof The Great Houses ..this will make the Dune Universe

@@robertnguyen2025 amazing humor 🤣🤣

It goes to show you that whenever someone says about a movie, or sports star, "We'll never see something or someone as good as this again", it's just a tired trope and very self-centered, as it almost always focuses on someone or something from their own childhood or lifetime, and never someone or something from history, or the chance that it will very likely be surpassed at some point in the future.

If I remember correctly in the book that's something high families call each other, it doesn't necessarily mean actual relation.

@@teahdurst7856 The various planets of Human Know Space are probably separated by 1000's of years of evolution. But the Sisterhood has been carefully breeding members of the planetary heads for that long as well.

@@adaeptzulander2928 True, but that wasn't really known outside of the BG - a vague presumption of a common distant ancestor makes sense for any long standing noble house, however their use of 'cousin' is more of a nod to them being more similar to each other than the people they rule. IMO.

The knee-jerk silly reactions to Stilgar's descent into religious obsession and fanaticism isn't funny but heartbreaking. Taking his tragic character as a sign of comedy is shallow and depressing, considering where his character ends up and what the author (and director I think) was trying to convey.

@@rikk319 Director and editors definitely played up the religious fanaticism for laughs, because they don't respect religion and they look down on the religious. They had an opportunity to show how scary devotion is, how terrifying fanaticism can get, and instead they played it off for cheap laughs.

So, the people Paul replaced were better? The Emperor, The Baron, The Bene Geserrit? Paul could see all possible futures. Even though the path he was forced to take was going to be bloody. Humanity survived. If the Bene Gesserit got "The One" they were hoping for. The one they had complete control over. Would that be better? The Reverend Mother was willing to sacrifices a whole House. And you think it would be better to have her in control of the "Ultimate Power" in the Universe? Think of our own past...... What about the tens of millions of Humans killed in WW2. Was horrible. Mass destruction on a scale not seen before. But would it have been better to let the Nazis win? I do not think so. Paul was a good man. One who tried to do the best he could. But sometimes the best is still horrible. He could have run from the responsibility. But instead, he did what he thought was the best he could do. Given the circumstances.

"And the ironic thing is that Dune is the underpinning for all modern SciFi, the same way that Lord of the Rings is the underpinning for all modern Fantasy." Except for the material that is based on Asimov's Foundation trilogy, which was voted in it's own time (40-50s) as the best science fiction story ever told. Star Wars and even Dune draws some from it, though there is no real central protagonist, as it's a plot-driven story, not character-driven, and thus very different in that way from most sci-fi stories that came after it.

you have one of the worst takes i have ever seen. "Paul is someone who readily embraces Revenge" yet the harkonnens and the emperor killed all his family and people and you expect him to just take it? are you a p*ssy? there isnt even anything regarding fascism yet you shoehorn that in since im sure youre brainwashed with "nazis big bad" jesus christ you need to touch some grass and reassess how you comprehend media because you went down the absolute wrong way in how to perceive the book and movie

Is it really that hard to believe that people prefer Fascism and Jihad over Feudalism? At least in those extremes you have a choice, you can be a follower, a bystander, or a rebel. Under Feudalism you are born into it, and that's it. Many people loved and followed Napoleon in his imperialism because he dismantled Feudalism. Anyway, for the Fremen, Paul is a hero that finally took them out of a harsh life and threat of genocide, and led them into power and hope. For the empire he is a villain that is destroying the status quo, a status quo that is being enforced by corruption and fiefdom. Paul is not a villain, arguably he's an anti hero, and the novels show us how terrible the existence of a Messiah is for anyone who is not following him.

Probably not Dune Part 2. Because the movie that deserves it, rarely gets it.

And best supporting actress for Rebecca Ferguson, and possibly best lead actor for Chalamet. Plus the practically-guarunteed awards for cinematography, score, sound design, and visual effects.

to the most overrated and overhyped dogshit thats just so far up his own ass, it stinks

@@matthewdhewlettwait for furiosa a mad max saga Its too early

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It helps show Frank Herbert's idea that the human culture of the galaxy has stagnated, with little or no technological or philosophical change in 10,000 years, too.

The Sardaukar didn't really have to do any real fighting for a long time by this point though. They were all reputation.

So either at the end of or right after the Butlerian Jihad when the Buddhislamists came to Arrakis?

@@JeshuaSquirrel I have no idea. Just following through visual medium

@@JeshuaSquirrel All I know is that it focuses on the Bene Gesserit.

This 100%. So many people cling onto Chani's book version without any concept of how a narrative needs to change when translated from print to film.

I mean you literally spoiled it for anyone reading... At least edit your comment and add: "SPOILER" before the sentence: "Chani will have Paul's children and..."

@@p.gin3955 lmfao at least they didnt say the other part but people can probably guess that one...

Amazon can do that.😅

I can't imagine any movies going that well after Messiah. Possibly a mashup of Children and God-Emperor? I know the unfilmable is occasionally filmed, but the other two canonical books strike me as really unfilmable.

If people can watch some of the Marvel movies that are being released that are very out there in concept, then they can watch Dune. It's just a question of how well you can adapt the story. Which so far is doing pretty well, certainly better than past attempts. I don't see how the second book would be a problem. Really, the clear point of high difficulty is the fourth book, that would be very difficult to adapt by comparison to the first two books.

The original marvel plots I've familiarized myself with are batshit insane.😂 I wasn't the only one who had an aneurysm when someone explained Scott Summer's powers to me. I'm sure he's right, it's gonna get silly. But the MCU is absolutely bonkers tits ridiculous, so I have faith in whatever attempt Villeneuve will make.😂

@@metacat3106 Well, you're not wrong about the Marvel thing -- I totally agree. But I literally don't understand the words that are coming out of your mouth otherwise. The conclusion of the second book is literally the creation of a human/worm hybrid. And you think the FOURTH book is the problem? C'mon man, I can only ask that you be reasonable.

@@mikepeterson9362 The creation of the human/worm hybrid is the third book, and while it is real weird, in the early stages it hasn't morphed his body too much, and is more like a weird suit/covering of the merged larva forms of the worms. In the fourth book the human/worm hybrid is fully developed and would be really weird looking.

OHH I didn’t know she was Jessica’s mother. That makes sense considering their relationship in the first book.

He used a lot of different religious motifs and ideas. The holy book of the time was called the Orange Catholic Bible, and the Bene Gesserit are a thinly-veiled play on the Jesuits. The surface-level details in the story lean heavily on Islam, but Herbert didn't like religion in general, not just Islam, and it shows in his writing. If anything, you see the powerful Catholic (European) Bene Gesserit manipulate the Islamic (African/Asian) Fremen through the Missionaria Protectiva as well as Paul and Jessica's own manipulations.

I am a muslim and I don't like the way some muslims are loving that he mentioned al-Mahdi and all these other stuff. On top of the fact that al-Mahdi is not a messiah who can see the future and invade other lands, he is a normal human being who is gonna be a righteous and powerful political and military leader, , the writer of the book is obviously trying to convey the idea of islam being a copy of other religions with the "beni" women being the ones who created the idea of the mahdi. The "beni" part means that they represent Judaism. In islam, there is only one messiah which is jesus pbuh.

Just curious, but why do you want more fans of Dune? Also, why do you want fans of Dune who haven't read it? These questions may seem like an attack, but they really aren't. I'm just curious.