Episode 17: Clan Cappadocian & Clan Giovanni

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4 жыл бұрын

If you’re new in town or just new to this whole podcast thing, you’re tuning into ‘Lore by Night’, the podcast that discusses all things vampiric, with no fear of breaching The Masquerade. In this episode, we continue to unravel the mysteries behind the origins, motives and cultures of the 13 vampiric clans in the World of Darkness. This episode will focus on The Clans of Death, Clan Giovanni, & Clan Cappadocian.
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@soulibon633 3 жыл бұрын

"I hope they don't" Reads Cult of the Blood Gods.....oh....this all makes sense now.

@PrimarisBlackTemplaDraven Жыл бұрын

I like the fact that Clan Giovanni embracing you is like making you a made man.

@enzoventurieri8671 4 жыл бұрын

Your narrative is like music. To play alongside your Nosferatus must be a delight and honour.

@LoreByNightVtM 4 жыл бұрын

That is the nicest thing anybody has said about my delivery of The Narrator, and I have had a fair few compliments! Thank you so very much!!

@Welther47 Жыл бұрын

Yes, like music... and a condescending tone.

@LoreByNightVtM Жыл бұрын

As to be expected from an Elder to Neonate 😉

@dylanchouinard6141 4 жыл бұрын

Ah, Clan Giovanni, otherwise known as Clan Mamma Mia That’s A-Spicy Meatball!

@LoreByNightVtM 4 жыл бұрын

I mean, you ain’t wrong!

@trashcant69 4 ай бұрын

Spaghetti and corpses, boss

@yaumelepire6310 3 жыл бұрын

The Cappadocians are among my favorite kindred.

@barrymcballs9031 3 жыл бұрын

The amount of Shade being thrown my way is really unnerving, I came here to have a good time and frankly I’m feeling attacked.

@AliAslan-pp3gt 4 жыл бұрын

Whenever I watch something about the clan(s) of death I see some common struggling when it comes to the pronounciation of these same words. Some local pronounciation tips from a fan who lives in Turkey: Cappadocian: Kappadokian Kaymakli: This is a Turkish word and its pronounciation is a tricky one for westerners. "Kai-mak-lı" ( "a" from "mak" should be pronounced like "a" from the word "father"), ("ı" which is dotless unlike "i" can be pronounced like "the" without the letters "t" and "h". So it is the "e" sound from "the" if it makes sense.) Erciyes: The name of a mountain which is in middle Anatolia near Cappadocia. Er-ci-yes ("Er" should be pronounced like "er" from "Erebor"), ("ci" is equivalent of "Je" of "Jesus") btw Kaymaklı is a real subterranean city. If you travel to Turkey you should definately go to Cappadocia and check that place out. It is quite cool.

@LoreByNightVtM 4 жыл бұрын

I get a lot of comments about mispronounced words, but that one is the only helpful and polite one. Thank you!

@BR4IN1N4J4R Жыл бұрын

Giovanni, the clan I've played the longest (approximately for a two year period) and hands down my favorite. So much fun to play and always a riot when you outplot the so called Leaders.

@Posturtle 4 жыл бұрын

I've recently started developing a Victorian Vampire campaign based around a Camarilla city. One of the players looks like they're playing a Giovanni. All are under the personal invitation of the Toreador Prince and have been reminded that joining the local community means abiding by the Traditions. We'll see how that works out. Bwahaha. It is also of interest that the Prince's main rival is an Elder Nosferatu crime lord of some ill repute who dwells above ground and is a master of Obfuscate ( multiple applications of 6 Dots). We'll see how all THAT works out...

@LoreByNightVtM 4 жыл бұрын

Sounds like there is a lot of deception involved. Love the sound of it!

@yuriykaraivan8310 4 жыл бұрын

It's is really interesting to see how a clan of death having to pass through so many "deaths" in its history. Would it be possible to a new wave of this clan emerge and do the same what Augustus did? Or could the death come full cycle and then the usurpers suffer in the hands of the HoS? Or even something completely different? With this lore, it's seem impossible that Giovanni could maintain their presence forever, after all, having control over aspects of death doesn't give them immunity to it

@michaelandreyev5029 4 жыл бұрын

The Gs are still pretty much in control being the heart of the Hecata.

@Sarcastic_Sophist 3 жыл бұрын

Well given that the latest WOD personality quiz placed me here I thought I'd learn a bit more about the clans of death. After reading through some older lore I find myself preffering cappadocian or perhaps even lamia overall. While death may not hold much appeal to me as a subject I at least know theology. However, magic, sword, gun, or the occasional honeyed word will keep you alive longer in my experience. One must be practical, you cannot seek the answers you desire if you cannot protect yourself. Great video as always sorry for the ramble.

@scottdoesntmatter4409 2 жыл бұрын

To be frank, the Giovanni are incompetent and arrogant at that. I much prefer the Cappadocians, so I never allowed the Giovanni to come into existence in my game in favor of the Cappadocians and Lamia.

@Sarcastic_Sophist 2 жыл бұрын

@@scottdoesntmatter4409 fair enough.

@Orochimaruswife1 3 жыл бұрын

The writers of vtm must have write this family during a Renaissance Italy phase. Not that I blame them, such an interesting place and time

@eccoeco3454 3 жыл бұрын

Not enough to make some research about Italian culture apparently...

@LoreByNightVtM 3 жыл бұрын

That is where you come in, if you so choose. If they did that with every Clan, they would all be very dry and boring to engage with, and far more daunting for players.

@eccoeco3454 3 жыл бұрын

@@LoreByNightVtM no the problem is that they do not really work that well with true Italian history nor culture. First of all, giovanni is not a surname but a first name and it sound very weird to an Italian (they could at least have used the italian prenominal noble particles "de" which works like the German von) second the mafia is a phenomenon born in south Italy and not culturally native to the north (to be fair all of the giovanni aesthetic, the family motifs, the catholic fervour, etc, is rather southern but that's because that is the Italian stereotype that Americans have) not to mention that none of the clans associated families are part of Venetian nobility (also it's weird that the vampiric counterpart to a people like Venetians, that historically were paranoically obsessed with making so that no family ever could get enough power to monopolize and/or overthrow the republic would act in such a openly monarchical way). Italians already have plenty of weird lore that could have been used to make up a clan (to continue with the godfather archetype, or rather stereotype, they could, for example, have used the mysterious and legendary Beati Paoli, the blessed Pauls/People of Paul, a Christian heretical sect/organization from which according to the tales all mafias have originated from. Or to keep the Venetian origin they could have used the Venetian Black Nobility as portrayed by the Conspiracy theorist and "historian" Jan van Helsing (it is of no historical value but Venetian nobility was indeed entrenched in intrigue and conspiracy and it's rather evoking as a concept) There is not that much a storyteller can do to "repair" them you either accept them and their cringe or you have to rewrite them from the start...

@eccoeco3454 3 жыл бұрын

Oh and obviously let's not forget that they named a giovanny family *Puttanesca* like the Pasta alla Puttanesca a damn pasta dish, what the hell is this, Jojo?? How can you take seriously a higher vampire named after a food? "Oh yes great lord Spaghetti with Ragù alla Bolognese command and it shall be done..." Facepalm

@LoreByNightVtM 3 жыл бұрын

Perhaps they ate one first one and thought they tasted like mamma's Puttanesca...

@thegamingandy4603 9 ай бұрын

Well, this certainly makes things interesting. The one question still stands in my mind... Why does the Giovanni have their kiss be labeled as the Kiss of Death, where instead of it being pleasurable to the human victim and making them beg you to bite them more and more, just like Count Dracula's kiss, it induces a very huge amount of unbearable pain upon them? I never understood that. Perhaps it is an equilibrium to the vampires, showing them all that not all vampire kisses are desirable. Either way, for the Giovanni vampires, I will need to keep a safe distance.

@tomtom7734 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this, you have been a huge help in making my Hecata character

@LoreByNightVtM 2 жыл бұрын

No problem 😊

@bjhan73 4 жыл бұрын

well done

@Strategysword 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@LoreByNightVtM 4 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome, I am glad you enjoyed it 😊

@IbnShisha1 Жыл бұрын

My Cappadocian survivor (embraced in the original VTDA black book): "'Family Reunion?' Go 'Hecata' yourself, Paradox." 💀👻🧛

@maciejas2471 5 ай бұрын

Imo Cappadicians have the best symbol of all clans. Change my mind

@alexharrington5060 2 жыл бұрын

ok im gonna beg again... even tho it probably wont get me anywhere.... pleeeease discuss wights lol... something about the way this guy explains the lore is just so entertaining... and yeah i know flattery will get me nowhere lol

@Shotta0202 Жыл бұрын

@lore by night which clans are your top 3 favs and in what order if you don't mind my asking?

@LoreByNightVtM Жыл бұрын

I don't mind at all! In fact, I did a whole episode on just that

@Shotta0202 Жыл бұрын

@@LoreByNightVtM could I get a link to that video please? XD

@LoreByNightVtM Жыл бұрын

It's Episode 96

@DenisX4C 4 жыл бұрын

I believe it's pronounced "Yadviga". Overall great read.

@LoreByNightVtM 4 жыл бұрын

🤷🏼‍♂️

@DenisX4C 4 жыл бұрын

@@LoreByNightVtM not a criticism by any means, just an old German-Polish name I'm familiar with.

@LoreByNightVtM 4 жыл бұрын

Oh no, I knew that. I have no idea how a lot of these words are pronounced and just yoloing the shit out of them 😅😂

@davidberkowitz7411 3 жыл бұрын

So far you've mentioned heroin and cocaine in your videos. Any changes of getting a video on vampires narcotics like calef?

@krispalermo8133 2 жыл бұрын

Old World of Darkness, werewolves had a starting merit: pure blood which gives you bonus social and ancestor dice on given skill dice rolls. Bone Gnawer street bums only can get the max one bonus dice. The rest can go up to five dots for bonus dice. For each dot in Pure Blood a werewolf has, it gives a vampire one extra blood point and risk frenzy, vampires can become addicted to werewolf blood.

@OldJerzyDevil 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting.. I've never heard of this Calef.. I always favored the idea of Kindred doping up by feeding their prey copious amounts of narcotics or alcohol first. Which I suppose a Giovanni might do to their victims just to muffle their screams a bit.

@davidberkowitz7411 2 жыл бұрын

@@OldJerzyDevil Calef is a plant used in Asamite thaumaturgy rituals. From what I remember it had the effect of astral projection. I could see the Giovanni/Hicata using it for spiritual research.

@OldJerzyDevil 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidberkowitz7411 interesting.. I've heard of a .similar substance c.alled Pigment. Pedaled by a pair of charlatan Ghost Hunters, Terrell and Squib.

@saekisadako2118 2 жыл бұрын

Cappadocians>Giovanni Lazarus and Mahatma will avenge their patriarch

@jgr7487 10 ай бұрын

666th like

@michaelandreyev5029 4 жыл бұрын

I love how these lore videos are always narrated as if the author is running away from rabid dogs... Seriously, why can't people just take a breath and slow down... It would make the work worthwhile.

@josephperry3700 4 жыл бұрын

or pronounce names correctly: ie. "Cappadocious" and "Japheth" . Overall, not a bad summary and I appreciate the work. I just think "Capadokious", "mafoosala", "jap-heth" and "Capadoki" are like nails on a chalkboard to me.

@LoreByNightVtM 4 жыл бұрын

whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Cappadocian

@josephperry3700 4 жыл бұрын

@@LoreByNightVtM kzfaq.info/get/bejne/frSFp5h9la-1hnk.html Cappadocian is not just a word used in VTM. It is a city in Turkey and in english it is pronounced as above. Pronouncing it Capadokya sounds as pretentious as ordering Taco Bell in Spanish. I definitely want to say I appreciate your videos but that pronounciation... that is a no from me dog.