It always amazes me when people say they quit work and started traveling 😅 I work full time and can't afford to travel

On my 29th birthday, in 1979, I was hunting antelope and mule deer in Jordan, Montana. I went downwind from the guy and wife I was hunting with and sat on a rock that had the jaw of a tyrannosaurus rex female. After that day I learned a lot about the past.

The wolf and serpent bros Its been too long since you've been together . After a terrible few days this has cheered me right up ❤

Bout time! The Wolf!!!

If pioneer wagons made ruts like this in stone, then I totally buy the Egyptian stick and sand method of producing granite vases.

I absolutely love this conversation, def a re-listen sode. The wall in Montana is so dope, can’t wait for more info.

I came across some old cart ruts in the hard pan dirt in the desert in western Idaho that became visible after a grass fire and I was able to mark them out in Google Earth and overlay then with an old Oregon Trail map. And that's the whole story. I found a lost section of the Oregon trail. Then I died of dysentery.

I am a chemistry graduate, but not recently, and my advice on "cart-ruts" is that you should find some people who are working in universities who would like to help. Many people have access to equipment that could do analysis. Maybe you should provide a contact point for academics to volunteer. Possibly just visit some local university and talk to people.

As someone who doesn’t hate Trump. That orange hair and China thing was funny lol you guys weren’t even trying to be political, it set itself up and it was perfect. If you two are polar opposites when it comes to politics, you do a great job keeping it off the podcast

I laughed for 20 minutes, "orange mummy bad" 😂😂😂

Love hearing about new explorers

Awesome guest, be sure and check some of my stuff in the Kootenai country montana ,everyone is forgetting Lincoln county and the edges of the laurentide

🍊 mummy bad😂 Classic snake Brothers humor so good!💥

Japan has lots of megalithic construction. If it was a quarry, there’s a chance rock samples from a megalithic construction site and Yonaguni match. It would settle this quickly

Thank You for This! I'm going to Sage Wall very soon!

Great show! Thank you.

I had to think about the ruts with the squarish shaped holes running along parts of the median. They reminded me of something not commonly seen, but I've seen them. Cog wheel trains. The cog was mounted underneath the vehicle and was used to help move up difficult inclines and to prevent rolling backwards. It might also help explain some of the irregular wear patterns of that center track. Ah, just a thought... Loved all this! Need more! WWolfProd for at least a 3 parter!

Brothers! Can’t wait! (Always here for the bumper music…)

Really great episode and thoroughly enjoyed watching the Snakes and the Wolf interact - very simpatico! The new info on the Sage Wall was compelling and at least in my mind rather terrifying - what was the wall keeping out - or perhaps keeping in? 😳 Will have to check out the Austin & Round Rock cart ruts as that’s also in my backyard. Cheers! 👍

Ah yeah, its old mate wolf bro ❤ great guest, love the ork youve been sharing, sage wall is amazing.

good information guys....thanks...

So cool to see Mike in the Cube love it I'm only half way through it I will have to get back to it later on .... Snakes 🐍🐍🐍🐍🙂🤙

Thanks again for an entertaining interlude into our in plain site conundrums. You are expanding the narrative. Your generation is continuing to ask the hard questions, thanks .

Fun episode. Thx!

I'm contemplating a setup where the "wheels" were not attached to the cart but placed into the pre-carved "ruts" like rollers so the cart or giant block could be moved along like items sliding along a factory line

These cart ruts look more like cogwheel railway used for very heavy and steep hills today

I'm really grooving on this. New article will be out in days in PCN on the Austin, Tx 'cart-ruts'. Wish I'd seen this when it came out. Looking for LiDAR!

I believe the holes were used as agriculture. The pics from the Canary Islands are very similar to the holes they are using to reclaim the Sahara. Video by @amillison shows how they are doing it.

I'm here - I like ZERO Mistakes!!!!!!

Dr. Barnhart tells me that nobody knows what cart ruts are, but they're totally natural

awesome show!

I think that is a good question that clay may lithify faster than 'dirt'. I think of the 'dirt' around Phoenix. I hear it called caliche all the time. Its hard as rock, too.

Coffees on!Here we go! Cheers!;-)!

Another good one!

Great episode

Awesome show as always. I'm going to sage mountain next month.

There isn't really a question here, although our minds are connecting the dots in the most recognisable way as we are used to see these grooves today in the mud.. But there have never been wheels to make these. Cart Ruts, had nothing to do with carts at all. What we look at, are 'just' the leftovers from quarries. Where we see 'ruts', there was once a mountain, big or small. The stones are quarried, we cannot see them any more, they're just gone. This, on itself a major task, for ancient workers! Between these ruts, there are perpendicular ruts connecting the deeper ones, witch were the ends of blocks taken out. The ruts needed to be deeper then de block in order to get them loose. To me, the most interesting seem to be, the fact you find this method of quarrying ALL OVER THE GLOBE !! And mostly done the same way, making big blocks or smaller blocks. It is very much telling us an important story, and probably very ancient too. One gets easily at dates of 20.000 years, no wonder we have lost it.. Thanks for the cosy time anyway..:-) but lets move forward.

Hey guys, love your show! Wait, cart ruts in TX? I've definitely gotta go see those! I just learned about some in India, with super cool ancient gyphs carved next to them. The locals say they are from Krishna's chariot. Anyway, keep up the good work; I'm rockin' your hat here in Houston! Edited to add, you know how they found those footprints in White Sands NM from 21-23 KYA? I wonder if the cart ruts were made in mud long ago, then were covered in mud or ash from a flood or eruption, perhaps during the Younger Dryas or earlier?

Awseome conversation, y'all, thanks for sharing! 57:28 This "rut" that seems too deep for a wheel, i absolutely agree. Just looking beside the trench, that's just like a pile of dirt, as if this channel was dug up, and the removed material never cleared away. Irrigation channel, perhaps?

An articulated steering system like that commonly used in wheel loaders sees the loader's rear wheels following in the tracks made by the front wheels. An articulated steering system allows for tighter turns in 4 wheel vehicles

the notches between the ruts at 49:34 remind me of the "Cog Railway" going up Pikes Peak - the notches are used to mechanically pull against to drag the train up a very steep incline.

I’m definitely good with geopolymer being a legitimate form of ancient masonry. Especially, when you consider what they were able to do with geometry, physics and chemistry.

You guys are the biggest inspiration to me, you guys keep me looking forward to making expeditions of my own in the near future, exploring all these ancient sites myself. I can't wait to get to my next chapter where I'm free to travel like this. Very soon. It's great to 'meet' & hear the stories from Michael Collins. Very cool guy & cool adventures

Legendary cart ruts

I’ve been diving for 10 years on and off and thats a great idea to dive submerged cities heheh

Yes!

if the cart ruts were made is "mud", I'd think there would be footprints and other signs of people also "petrified" into the groundwork

I'm glad I'm now 74 because I'd try some of this at half my age.

Get him Snake Bros. The longer this episode goes the more I see you questioning the knowledge and his lack of remembering "where he was". Go Snakes.

cool man....Cart Rusts is working a lot!

Great episode, great guest, hosting was passable! haha just kidding, was fun.

Wandering Mike is a good guest. I cracked up along with you over swam with whale sharks and dolphins, hated it

All-wheel steer wagon? Lol. Get em snakes. This is too funny. Honestly the most I've laughed in weeks.

It's early June here, be careful for a while.

I Have done a considerable study of the white settlement of Montana and everything I've seen here sure looks like wagon tracks in the mud to me, like all the wagon trails I've seen for the Oregon Trail..

I don't think they used 'wheels' on carts within the ruts. It was more like spindles, like large dowels in the ruts, 2 front, 2 back. You wouldn't have to worry about the turns, or the depth too much. It would stay steady enough to move items, stones, whatever. Maybe just a smooth wooden sled underneath to keep it moving, sliding along. That stuff would have been like snot if it was as wet as to make the rutss in the first place.

Mud stone's like that Russ - at one of our local beaches we have mud stone and sand dunes. Some of the mud is still malleable - it looks hard but is not and there's other parts which are now solidified - I don't know how long this process takes, but it seems not as long as you'd think - perhaps depends on the precise make up of the mud. But yes, many of those tracks look as if they were made, many moons ago, when the ground was liquefied - I don't know if certain earthquakes could account for that - (just thinking out loud) but maybe this could have occurred at the onset of the great flood, when folk were trying to escape??? And it was a nightmare trying to escape? Very interesting Show - thank you.

Michael, have you measured the width of the cart ruts (distance between parallel pairs)? It would be interesting to know whether they conform to local historical carts and/or are consistent between locations.

Azores islands has these cart ruts as well.

Orange Mummy Bad!!!! HAHA

Shattered History posits that the cart ruts are actually ash that had solidified into stone. Happy hunting.

I was thinking the same 0range joke before Kyle committed his bitty sin. Hey, I got admonished in Discord for something similar. But apart from the joke, there have been a number of burials along the ancient SILK ROAD lately discovered, of caucasians w surviving Red Facial and Scalp hair, wearing plaid woolen cloth garments, seemingly tartan patterns derived from Celtic culture. A number of remarkably intact mummies have been excavated in the Tarim Basin of Xinjiang region of western China, some dated reliably to 1800 B.C!!!!

Thats the best theory ive seen with the band of holes for sure thats great they're also doing that in the sahara

So that one cart rut image with the square notches in the middle looks like they were lever points for moving very large stones and or some kind of track for a gear drive system like the cart had a large sprocket in between the Axels and was propelling the train car

More images and videos throughout the podcast would greatly improve the format and bring many more regular viewers.

Its like its only making a single point of contact with the ground in the ruts opposed to a wheel

If the ruts were that deep while they were in use, my thought is they filled the ruts with some material like small gravel or something.

Yeah the sage wall is legit a wall there's even protuberances that have been documented yall gotta get Geoff from land of chem on too this was another fantastic episode great guest

Those cart rods are in my opinion some service tracks for water pipes or maybe for electronic cables or something. Who knows there absolute no card rods. and there from a time at least when the water was a couple off feet lower.

Why would you NOT want an anti-inflamatory pain reliever?

Patterns in the middle look like the could be for a gear wheel.

Just a heads up. Fish eggs can easily be deposited by birds. For instance in Louisiana you will get all sorts of fish and frog eggs deposited over time by birds. They will land in water and the eggs are actually designed by nature to stick to the feet of the birds and travel to different ponds. You could easily have fish that appear out of nowhere.

With regards to the dolmens, those in North America are usually not found where we know the glaciers scraped all of the top burden away. They are usually found in places where the glaciers did not go. I know of none that lie right at the edge of the glaciers, where glacial erratics would expect to be found most often.

Let’s go Brandon!!!!

Cartwrights in Nevada on the ponderosa. Cartruts in Texas outside Austin

Water channels? Storage channe l s? So there is a theory that the djed pillar in Egypt was actually a force multiplier or form of pulley. Mount that or something similar to a stone block cut to fit the cart ruts and use wedges to lock it in place. You could use a setup like that to provide circular motion for cutting, pulling, lifting, whatever.

If all those cart ruts are associated with quarries, I’d love to see where the buildings are.

Today I'm polishing rocks from the quarry at Mt. Mica in Paris, ME. Coincidence? 🤔 ✌️😙💨

The crack down the wall with the angle shaped section above it. Could that be a wedge that would be used to keep the other sections tight like a wedge? Any shaking would tighten the rest of the structure as long as it was secure at the ends.

Very Anglo-Saxon episode, this one.

Y’all should get Jimmy on this show and tear him apart lol

Thank god Randell has seen these snakes in the grass for what they are and is distancing himself from their swampy ways.

The Japanese marine geologists who were diving on Yonaguni for years thought it was man made. This is documented in Underworld.

We have cart ruts in Terceira, Azores.

So, Johnson used the softener Shamir, as opposed to the flattening Shamir used on the red pyramid, and Osirion in Egypt. 🤔

First comment! Great surprise after work before bed! The illinois Colubro! Snakessss 🐍🐍🐍

1:16:38 just a theory but I’m really starting to thing these polygon structures and tight wall fittings will be found on the moon, these would hold oxygen in or an atmosphere, and let’s say you use the thunderbolt generator inside of it, used be producing oxygen to breath. Just a loose thought experiment. Thank you for the video guys

If they could soften the surface for cutting and fitting. Would answer many of these issues.

GOD BLESS THE SERPENTS! its like every podcast I listen to is better than the next... Wait wuuuut?! lol Love this stuff! Keep it up guys!

Paul Cook has documented some cart ruts in Malta being used as service channels that were/are rocked and plastered over.

Sorry for bombing the comments Snakes. This is comical. Dude is full of it.

This is a case for crowd sourced science analysis

I am deathly afraid of open water so I’d jump out of a plane without a parachute before I jump into 50 feet of water

Awesome talk guys Mike has been and checked out some very interesting sites .. 🙂🤙

wonder if like you stated the magnetic aspect of the area i wonder if you could develop a frequency in thise areas and allowed you to like you stated would soften the stone so has anyone looked at the magnetic asoect of all those areas that might be similer the sage wall area

Tracks could have been filled with cut wood. Rounded on the bottom and flat on tbe top, making for a "driveble" smooth surface

Perhaps the tracks held some form of bearing?

I'd like to see a microscopic analysis of that rock. Is it natural limestone or are we looking at some kind of geopolymer construction site that carts were pulled across? Or was the limestone dissolved somehow? I think of all the camps that have their own explanation for all this, the camp that bring chemistry into the equation is probably the least popular. The Idea that a bunch of all of this is glorified concrete just sucks all the romance out of it.

What is the standard model explanation for cart ruts?

Go for a hike without apple maps. You will find theses everywhere in Montana from butte to Billings.