Wahab riaz sitting in that dugout is so bizarre. I can't imagine any way in which he could be contributing positively to this team's identity or playstyle or decision-making, or morale.

Ahmer had said that only way Pakistan can reach Final is if they Lose to USA then Somehow beat India and with it their traditional unstoppable run starts all the way to final otherwise they won't go beyond super 8 So That Scheme is Still on 😅

For some reason I feel relieved by this loss, this world cup is pretty much over for us. A team which drops players like M.Haris, Zaman Khan, M Wasim and selects players like Azam, M Amir or Usman, deserves to lose this world cup.

Osman's last piece on crincfo was amazing as always but man it didn't age well :p

Saurabh Netrawalkar who bowled the super over is a full time Oracle SDE, and a part time cricketer, Let that sink in

Worrying aspect is you would have expected guys like Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen alongside Amir, Imad and "Ifti Chachu" to take hold of the situation and rally the troops. But unfortunately the dressing room harmony for one reason or another doesn't have that so these results and performances happen.

Even before listening, I can say this wasn't the worst defeat because at least I could see it coming. Babar was destined to deliver this. While the list of responsible parties is long, Babar is the dumbest of them all to jump on this sinking ship when he had earned so much public sympathy and support for his unceremonious (but well justified) removal.

Great discussion as always, loved the no Bijli thumbnail :) 🤣

can't wait! here we gooo..

Valid points about Azam Khan. His PSL run was so good. Did not expect him to face this level of ridicule.

I think you guys are overthinking and over complicating things to weave a web of I don't know what. Pak doens't have a world class team. They don't produce world class players any more. It is a ICC ranked 5th or 6th team; which is quite accurate. They will have their moments not a full day.

Half the blame for that superover debacle should be on Rizwan. He fumbled every wide and gave them 4 extra runs and the fielding laziness gave am extra run.

Never thought USA & India will be the teams from Group B to enter Super 8. This was literally the EASIEST group, one can get. Bags pack krke seedha NY se aao.

I also watched the thing on mute ahmer so I do not get what the commentators were going on about when kept replying the edge that went in between ifthiqar and rizwan over and over again, I honestly thought they were going to fetishise it by juxtaposing the catch off rizwan’s edge at first slip, this the need to watch these games on mute

Kal tou rona hi aa gaya. Just so hurt and disappointed 😢

Loved the podcast You chaps dissected Pak team's failure tremendously well; and also 'shed light' on some grave issues

Okay but why does the bad pitch in New York not favour Pakistan? more randomness, more fun, more haal

This same USA team when they will play India will play like they are the worst team , but somehow against Pak these B teams seem to play amazing

Living in the amreeka, I had remotely considered buying tickets to potential Pak games in the Caribbean. I must have done a really good deed that day when I decided not to proceed with my plan.

One thing not being mentioned is Pakistan right now is playing four of its most talented pacers together in a long time. The conditions are good for them and failing after that is big failure of batting order.

The therapy I probably needed to come to grips with this loss. Didn’t know how to react yesterday!

I kept waiting for the hidden track at the end of the video but it never came, I thought osman was going to reveal his pop culture reference from the days when miley cyrus was called hannah montanna

For some reason, the losses to Bangladesh in 1999 and Ireland in 2007 stung a lot more. But that is probably because I was younger and a lot more emotionally involved. But on an objective basis, this is definitely the most shocking loss in Pak cricket history. Most of the blame for this loss and the general shambles is on the dinosaurs in the PCB and their massive egos. First you remove Babar (why?), then you remove Shaheen (why?) and then bring back Babar (why?). And never mind the nonstop management changes. Mohsin Naqvi was so rude and disrespectful when he addressed the team when he took over and never mind the obnoxious promotional videos of Naqvi on the PCB KZfaq channel. It seems more a Mohsin Naqvi fan channel than a channel for the promotion of Pakistan cricket. And he's not even the worst PCB chief (yet!) I have seen. The fossils running the PCB are ensuring that an average joe like me completely stops caring about Pak cricket.

Guys India is so sending Pakistan out of the tournament. Team suitcase pack kar kay jaye match khelnay

First time im seeing such sadness in his eyes...Ahmer naqvi is simply devastated

Honest question - what is more shocking? - Pakistan defeat to USA - India's godly batting line-up getting bowled out for 36

PCT's recent performances have turned many of us into "yayha uncle"

Pakistani cricketers retire as Maulanas, so whats the cry for..

Was it deliberate to have the 12 mins black out screen at the end?

Nice work guys but this one is a real sucker punch. I don’t think I can process this one even with Ahmer and Osman , that itself is telling of the magnitude of torture here. Ahmed mentioned torturous and that exactly the adjective blaring in the my head. It is got to be a terminal malignancy if Osman’s words can’t fail to rationalise.

During the vedio i feel like Rizvi bahi about say BC or yeah Chu*****y but some how mange to keep his calmn .....LOL ....We have the exact same feeling the way you expressed .....fighting my own personal dilemma living in the USA HAMRYE TEAM NAY HAMRYA APNAY MULK KE TEAM KO HARAYA.

Yaaar kuch bhi ho can’t see Ahmer bhai sad n disappointed

I think after this game people should stop taking the sport of cricket seriously.can any one name any other sport where a bunch of part timers can beat the top team of that sport .

Naqvi once said " Phr woi hoga Pakistan salavador se har jae ga" 😂

no bijli brought to you by KE 😆

That's why we Shouldn't globalize the Sport. If we do, we may be at par with them in terms of skills, but we will lag behind them in terms of Strategy, Tactics, etc. When India lost to Bangladesh in 2007 world cup, they decided to revamp their whole Domestic Structure. It took time, 10 years, and finally, it's yielding results. Today, they got 6-7 150 Kmph Pacers (Umran, Kuldeep Sen, Mayank Yadav, Karthik Tyagi, Nagarkoti, etc.) which used to be our forte. Dhoni dropped VVS, Ganguly, etc. from ODI team owing to Fitness Issues. If we don't sort our Cricket System, we will end up being a No 12 to No 15 Ranked team in next 10 Years. There are new teams coming up every year. Nepal, USA, Ireland, Canada, and few African countries as well, Their Cricket is in an Upward Curve. They might soon replace us if we don't fix ourselves.

The whole mindset conversation just leads me to think that we have completely missed the plot once again. It’s as though, the thing that Usman khan is missing is just the fearless approach and if he had that, he would be the same as will jacks or Phil salt. Umm no imad. There is a massive divide in skill. We have to confront that. We don’t have the skill to confront highly skilled bowling. Mindset comes much much later. We are a Babar Azam retirement away from having the batting line up of a nepal. That’s basically how pathetic we are. Stop creating distractions and focus the conversation on where it needs to be, ie skill development from the grassroots to the national side. Get better pitches, better coaching, better fitness, better competition.

World Cup in US is similar to India election rhetoric of abki baar 400 paar

I don’t mind a toxic environment in dressing room where there are rumours of mutiny against the captain, I am afraid these are going to become very afraid of failure and not because of the internal competition for their spot in the team but because of the social media degrading they will each receive if they mess it up and going by your impression that is what is happening or is going to happen

pappa said to babar dont lose to india , you can lose to anyone else. So Babar & Co avoided a tour to northern areas & Kashmir in a certain 4x4. So chill boys he can either make you happy or pappa 😉

I don’t think I broke up this much after a loss 💔

No need to be concerned everyone. Whenever Team Pakistan go deep and win big, this is generally how things start. A thrashing win would have been concerning. #qudrat #patheticHope

bille pe gussa😂😂😂😂

Pakistan lost to an Indian coder at Oracle - Sourav Netravalkar. From Australian Farmers to Indian Coders, Pakistan Cricket has come a long way.

The reason we watch Pakistan cricket?: it’s called Stockholm Syndrome!

Look like after kakul training....Pak team acted just the way Pak act in front of USA...total surrender

It’s second time in my life that I am rather happy over the losses Pakistan team is suffering in last one year or so. The first time was when in 1996 Waseem Akram team lost in the World Cup QF against India and then continued the same until the 1999 debacle. Otherwise, I am the one who has always been a very emotional supporter of Pakistan who would celebrate the wins like crazy and mourn the losses painfully. What a sh*t we have gathered in last few years especially after the MisYou era. It’s not that we haven’t been doing such ridiculously unbelievable performance in the past but after the MisYou era, the team has seriously become a plethora of garbage, a bunch of greedy, selfish, self-Centred, extremely unprofessional, immature and to be honest very illiterate and uncultured players who don’t have a reason to represent a country on an international forum. To top up this, the team is led by a duffer captain who is only dying to be compared with the likes of Virat, Smith, KW and Root. He is way way too behind them.

Blame the Army for that (de)conditioning camp 😂😂 Tbh PCB (Naqvi to be precise) is the one to be blamed for disrupting the harmony of the team. This is a divided team. Expect same bad results.

Leave battinf bowling aside. The presence of mind, fielding, professionalism is just downright pathetic

Why do us Pakistanis act so surprised when defeats like this happen?

Scary generation. There seems to be an arrogance and focus on annual earnings. We’ve lost the romanticism of Pakistan cricket. An emblem of Middle Eastern & South Asian energy. One hopes, the youngsters can inspire an extremely important generation of kids, over the next 20 years.

Why all our power hitting is only towards like Mid Wicket? Why not Cover, Point, Long Off, Third Man, etc. Why can't we develop Technically correct batters who got power game as well, Babar being the closest to that description, and Saeed Anwar in the past. When I look around the World, for technically correct batters with power hitting abilities and impeccable Range of Strokes (In Short, all Format batter), I see a David Warner, Jos Buttler, Rohit Sharma, Gill, Daryl Mitchell, Aiden Markram, Tristan Stubbs, etc. We got none, maybe PSL 24 Babar. It's better to have Saud Shakeel, Abdullah Shafique in our team than these Ifti, Azams, etc. At least, we won't have a batting collapse regularly, and we will end up scoring higher majority of times, expect for once in 5 times when these Sloggers click.

You guys make excuses because you have friends in PSL and you guys want to defend this bunch.......who has actually improved in the last 2 years...some of our batsman can just play spinners some can only play fast bowler ...out spinners are useless let's just admit it's a shit team

Anyone who still thinks ( a part from Babar social media team).. that Pakistan can still reach semis or fina etc. At every chance of this.. you will find Babar captaincy come between Pakistani win. BABAR IS A TOOTHLESS CAPTAIN. He didnt have any captaincy skills. For GOD sake..

Rodeo Clowns in cricket field of TX.

Imperialism works well because the institutional powers that be have an understanding that there are some things they will always be aligned on - power and control - and the rest can be dealt with the optics of political parties who will genuinely or disingenuously fight over other issues. This inevitability creates a semblance of stability despite democracy's inherently designed unstable features. The PCB could learn something from this. Sit all these rinse and repeat rotational PCB chairs in a room. Have them agree on the things they all love to remove and replace, all the things they refuse to publicly agree on, but privately can - say, stop changing the captain, invest in them, stop changing coaches and restructuring the domestic structure, invest in them - then publicly disagree only on the how of these elements, and in fact be political and take credit for the success of predecessors if something is working, don't remove and replace it, privately be fully aligned. For all the politics in the PCB, kamaskam they could actually learn from political collusion tactics to fix the root problems of the institution.

اتوار کو ہم جیتیں گے کیونکہ بقول چاچا اشفاق احمد، پاکستان اللہ کا ایک معجزہ ہے۔ اور تاریخ نے بار ہا ثابت کیا ہے کہ اسکو جھٹلانا مشکل ہے۔

I don't know what has brought pakistani cricket so low??? May be it's PSL...

بابر اعظم محمد رضوان شاداب حارث یہ وہ ٹولہ ہے جس نے پچھلے کئی سال سے ہماری ٹیم کو یرغمال بنایا ہوا ہے،سونے پر سہاگہ ساتھ پرچی سرکار کے وہاب بھی شامل ہو گئے

Pakistan is still winning against us on sunday

Badar Azam is Nawaz Sharif of Pakistan cricket team. He wants to be remembered with his runs and averages as a captain not wins just like Nawaz who always brings his orange lines and motorways as achievements of million years in power. And they both are always ready for one more time to lead 😂

Coward captain coward team

American Indians defeating ex-Indians! or Minnows are Dozakh ke shahzade for Pakistan!

Ahmer bhai ye sab kya bakwas laga rkhi hai .. Just blame the Bcci, icc, Bjp, modi, Jay Shah like always . Apko sukoon miljayega aur dukh bhi Kam hoga .

I agree on Azam the hate directed towards him is actually for the selectors that selected him. Also the players for 11 to 17 era when are running the cricket now what would you expect they have turned the team even worse than that

Kirsten kya mra raha tha

Cricket has given more stress to Pakistanis than their economy. The strategy of Pakistan team is, Why win easily when you can lose spectacularly.