Strongly disagree.

No independent review has ever been done on ORA. There is no evidence that they have helped even one woman

He was jailed for failure to pay child support . If he gives the gett then the child support will be forgiven

@@nechamasaull1295 in other words, there is a lot more to this story.

Witholding a get for 9 years is a form of domestic abuse, period!! I do not care what money she asked for!!

And what about the Kesubah? Everyone woman has to forgive all monetary obligations because their husband is going to be an a hole?

@@DrkMaman Kesubah is not owed in a no-fault divorce if the wife initiates

The arguments they made against witholding a get were well articulated. Let the facts of what is happening speak for themselves. I do not care who the hosts are.

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We ask a rabbi because he is learned and should know and if he is not ask another rabbi. Its not magic ask a question get the truth but ask a expert and get a answer not all rabbis are experts in all things

@cohenlabe1 so 35 rabonim later hmmm makes sense nothing to see here 😒

What does Rechnitz have to do with this story?

Rechnitz has nothing to do with this story

We have free will, getting a divorce is always an option, this is not the 16th century.

A women is allowed to get divorced according to Halacha. Even for no good reason. In still not sure what’s going on exactly and sometimes the agunah problem is the women. I hope they can both be adults and end this

@@The-Best-Version-Of-You Neither husband or wife is allowed to get divorced for no good reason, especially if there are children.

Hypothetically, even if she wanted to get divorced, for no reason, is that a good idea for him to keep her trapped in a marriage she feels is dead? I can't imagine she would go thru this for no reason for 9 years, but would it have been better for her to go into details of all his issues as to why she wants it ?

@@msolitsky I think you are confusing divorce and separation. He is not keeping her trapped. She is living her own life. They disagree about the terms of divorce. Both sides have a right to stay married if the terms of divorce, in a no-fault divorce, are not acceptable to them. You cannot steal everything from your spouse then demand that they agree to the terms of divorce so they can take your stuff and marry another person.

Those are all things which should be worked through in Beis Din, arbitration, or in the secular court system where a neutral 3rd party can determine the most fair outcome. I do not see why keeping a woman married against her will and refusing to give her a get is a smart thing to do. If a person did not have the judgment when they were dating and before they had kids to realize that they were married to a crazy woman then they will unfortunately need to live the consequences of that choice. Blaming the woman and witholding a get is just not a responsible way of taking ownership for your decisions.

I think the reason she didn't do that is because she recognizes the truth. She's not orthodox because "she grew up this way" but because she honestly understands that our actions have consequences. Compare it to a person who doesn't eat meat and milk. If the only reason you keep them separate is because you "grew up that way" then when you get stuck some place without the social constraints, and you are very hungry, you'll give in. But if you understand that mixing meat and milk is the spiritual equivalent of mixing bleach and ammonia, you won't do just because you're hungry. Likewise, for a person who understands the tremendous damaging ramifications of remarrying without a get, it's simply not an option. The "only path forward" isn't to give up on one's moral clarity, and to try to pretend there won't be consequences for your actions because you are desperate to still your guilty conscious. The "only path forward" is to fight as much as possible, within halacha, to receive the get. We don't know why G-f puts us in certain places; and if people acted improperly they will be held accountable for their actions. But our paradigm is Avraham Avinu. He listened to Hashem by Akeidas Yitzchak, was willing to obey Hashem without understanding the justice behind the command, and only gained understanding after the trial was over. And the reward of that tremendous trial reverberates until today, as we live off the merit of that accomplishment. So too, Nechama Wasserman's situation is indeed heartbreaking. It is encouraging to see so many people rallying around her to support her, but it also is hard to see how much suffering she has been forced to undergo in this ordeal. Ultimately at some point, she will merit to understand why she had to go through this tremendous nisayon, and she will see all of the amazing merits she accrued throughout the ordeal. That doesn't justify what has happened, but it explains a bit why someone with Nechama's integrity and emunah wouldn't "just get married to unorthodox" and give it all up. She's come too far to throw it all away. We need to be supportive of her to help her get past this and move on

@binyominfishman5115 when I said grew up that way I literally meant the indoctrination of suffer and you'll get a shiny prize later that you can't see now. You say it's nice to see so many people stand up who did? Try going to rav malkiel and bringing up this subject. Your gedolim have a different view of the way the world should work its not about freedom to them its about how they want to run the system. They dont look at halacha when they aren't interested. Heter iska yes psak kfiya no. Ones ok because you need to run your buisness so we know it's shakey but parnasah.... I'm just using one example there are thousands of those. If it was all suffer for the future where is everyone else. I'm saying once you realize it's a cult like control these days you might as well live your life without that pain because no one's providing that shiny future you speak of you just sell it but don't practice it.

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@@JJ-kf4kc lol-if I considered myself religious I would, but that’s not the case.

not wanting to hurt him but also being upset that he's received special treatment while being rightfully imprisoned are not mutually exclusive

Caught that also. There seems to be more to his motivations than she is letting on. Not that there is any excuse, but to help with the problem she needs to be honest that there may be a rationale for his behavior other than he's a lunatic

And so, she doesn't deserve to be given her Gett? After 10 years? Would you have made the same victim shaming comment if Nechama was cv"s your daughter?

@@bklynteachr only you took that illogical next step. No one else said she doesn't deserve a Get.

The common thread here is what is being said versus what isn't. The implication being that Nechama needs to justify why she wants a gett, which she shouldn't have to do. She *very* clearly doesn't want to be married to Dovid and hasn't for ten years. Nothing else needs to be understood in terms of her getting her gett.

Not true!

She’s a hero

We as a community should have zero tolerance for men that are using gitten as a tool of manipulation. Historically we used to beat up such men until they gave the get now that we cannot do that anymore we should be using every persuasive tool we have against such a person to emotionally push them to give the get.

​@@PO-nd6uounfortunately, nowadays women have all the power in the secular courts and the only card a man has is the get.

She said there was mental and emotional abuse in the marriage.

הרבה רבנים הם לא רבנים הם סתם פחדנים, אתה חושב שמנהיגי ישראל בכל הדורות היו פחדנים? לא הם לא פחדו משום דבר

Too many of them are fucked up!

בקיצור, לא הבנת את עיקר הפודקאסט...

הם מדברים על סחבת מצב הרבנים .נושא העגונות זה רמה שרב משה פינשטיין זצ"ל היה יכול להכריע ובטח לא מדובר על מקרה עגונה כזה .יש כאן בעיה פנימית היום בעידן הפמיניזם זה מאוד מקובל שישמעו את צד האשה בלי עוררין !וכדי לקבל את צומת לב עושים כאלו פודקאסטים ,שלי אישית מאוד לא מובן איך יש להם זמן לחפור לה בתוך הנשמה .יש כאן משהו שאנחנו הצופים לא נדע אלא נצטרך לדעת אם להכריע לצד שלה או לצד הבעל . ולכן הפודקאסט הזה הוא לא אפקטיבי בא נתפלל שהלב שלו יתרכך וישבר ויתן לה את הגט במהרה ושהיא תוכל מהר שוב למצוא לעצמה את השידוך המתאים

This has nothing to do with feminism. Historically we never tolerated men that wouldn’t give gets instead we used to beat up such men, however, nowadays we cannot do that in the US so we are faced with an agunah problem.

So, in an effort to save one woman you are willing to destroy hundreds of marriages. That's not Judaism, that's feminism. Sure, punish the Wasserman family financially and maybe even kick their kids out of school but for hundreds of women to punish their husbands will just spread the divorce problem not solve it.

Putz...how about you lose some weight. You look ridiculous!

She literally said she never used that as a leverage

​@mcsfeb1 idk anything about this case and it could be she's telling the truth, but to assume that she is without evidence is naive. My ex also told everyone she wanted the kids to have a father in their lives while simultaneously putting all of her energy into preventing that from happening. Take everything with a grain of salt

@@barniebabushka I am sure those stories happen but no grain of salt here 9 years no excuse for that everyone knows he has a regular custody agreement he is delusional and says he wants her back thats this case

@@mcsfeb1 for sure at this point, it is clear that he is holding back a get out of spite. I think what is often lost however, is how situations devolve to get to this point. It is true that in some instances there are truly evil men. I believe though that in many of these cases men get beaten down to the point that they feel they have nothing to lose and the get becomes the only thing they have left to fight back with. It becomes about revenge. When asking how someone can do such a terrible thing and trying to get at the root of this pervasive issue, I think it makes sense to assess each situation with some nuance and look back at what might have caused someone to act in such a seemingly irrational way, you might find some common themes. Maybe it's worthwhile to put efforts into fixing those issues before situations get out of hand

@barniebabushka true it should be an even playing field and each should get the best possible outcome but it's sad that it gets this bad and whatever can be done to change the future should be done I am sure it's not one thing in particular but a variety. It seems that beis din definitely isn't helping