Erebus Wars | The fall out & Sale of the championship winning team.

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The Valve Bounce

The Valve Bounce

Ай бұрын

In this weeks Episode:
Why Kostecki's retun was more Frosty than Mark Winterbottom.
Why Erebus is for Sale, and will it spark the end for Big Bad Barry?
Who is going to buy it and will they be inheriting a Championship winning team?
#repcosc #erebusmotorsport #v8sc #motorsport #Brodie #Kostecki #sale #supercars #v8supercars

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@queenslander954
@queenslander954 Ай бұрын
Amazing that this was all caused by a overzealous crew chief with large chips on both shoulders. So at least they’re well balanced gestapo tactics.
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce Ай бұрын
It’s a sad state of affairs if this is the case
@KiwiCarGuy1976
@KiwiCarGuy1976 Ай бұрын
If the buyer has any sense at all they will show Barry the back of the door and get rid of that toxicity he has created in the team.
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce Ай бұрын
I think you'll find as part of the sale he loses his job so to speak. Where he lands is anyone's guess.
@michaelposey1108
@michaelposey1108 Ай бұрын
I would love to see another manufacturer
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce Ай бұрын
I would love to see another manufacturer racing, but they need to ensure all the processes are in place to accommodate them and make sure they are competitive. I still feel Supercars are 2 to 3 years away from being in a position to consider that.
@gerardcrabb4556
@gerardcrabb4556 Ай бұрын
Kostecki holds the number one... Vailo linked to ownership bid TFH sponsor said they had buyer not himself... Barry runs team maybe keep his share in REC under new management... Betty pretty much retired and had Shannen doing her day to day stuff in team now she left to Coca Cola...
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce Ай бұрын
Yes the Vailo details dropped between our recording and posting of the video. I haven’t heard the same news about Barry remaining involved though. There is still a lot to happen and it could be very exciting if this unfolds.
@Ridingthecushion
@Ridingthecushion Ай бұрын
Barry the drama queen haha
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce Ай бұрын
Yeah he is a bit. Love him or hate him, big bad bazz will probably land somewhere in the category.
@allyearrounddeckspergolas9647
@allyearrounddeckspergolas9647 Ай бұрын
Its barrys fault
@WINZRacingBoss
@WINZRacingBoss Ай бұрын
​@@allyearrounddeckspergolas9647and Betty for being so pathetic
@gyro65
@gyro65 Ай бұрын
At the end of the day the answer we after won't be answered. It's a toxic unit . No one would take it on without knowing full details Betty would have with a clause of none disclosure. Sealed for every .
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce Ай бұрын
Yep you're on the money. Maybe in 20 years we'll know more 🤣
@Primer292
@Primer292 Ай бұрын
Been out of the loop for a few years but jumped back in for gen 3 what happened with Reynolds and Barry is there a summary clip somewhere?
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce Ай бұрын
Welcome back in that case. The story centres around Tahan not being welcome into the garages of which we dont know why. Reynolds didn't take the Sim racing stuff seriously, and the team were unhappy with that from reports. When they did go racing again the pace in the car and Reynolds wasn't where they expected. So it was probably a lot of little things that turned into a big thing. And they just agreed to split.
@Primer292
@Primer292 Ай бұрын
@@thevalvebounce thanks heaps for the update adds a bit of context Reynolds has always been a character gets a laugh from me near on every time he’s on camera
@dodgemF1
@dodgemF1 20 күн бұрын
When the 75% shareholder is an unhinged nutjob, that filters right through the team including Barry.
@vaughneaston733
@vaughneaston733 Ай бұрын
Story of Erabus: the Won and done Bathurst 2017- Win Bathurst 2018- blew it (we’ll win again) nope. Champions in 2023 (we are up there with 888) 2024- downfall. My opinion; 1 big win dose not put you at the top, try following it up and then we’ll take you seriously Barry. Brodie is the closest thing to SVG we’ve seen; he’s why you won for a year.
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce Ай бұрын
Nice reflection of the history that has been Erebus’s ups and downs. It’s tough to remain at the top for a long period of time and as it stands, they haven’t been able to back up their strong performances.
@Gravy123-kp5ou
@Gravy123-kp5ou Ай бұрын
Its definitely a weird one. Im a big Brodie fan but I don’t think it’s all on Erebus. In retrospect, Erebus should have let him go at the start but he was signed to drive with them. Teams however should be able to stand their ground and contracts should be binding. Now if there was some misconduct from team staff that’s a different story but until that evidence comes to light…..
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce Ай бұрын
We agree with you, and in all likelihood we won't ever know if or what the misconduct was. Will be very interesting to see the teams dynamic for the remainder of the year.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo Ай бұрын
"Teams however should be able to stand their ground" Perhaps, but normally all the drivers and sponsors would want to stay at a championship winning team. Instead of all the drivers and all the sponsors wanting to leave. So clearly something is not right about how the team is run.
@tennesseethompson5287
@tennesseethompson5287 29 күн бұрын
@gravy123. The evidence of misconduct doesn’t come to light because of Legal threats from Lawyers to the drivers & any team member! Everybody including Bad Granny Betty & Bad Barry Ryan won’t talk either, it’s all hushed up! The sooner this Toxic team dissolves the better it will be for the sport!
@danstaff648
@danstaff648 Ай бұрын
It appears there's no point in signing contracts anymore.
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce Ай бұрын
In recent times they are more of an agreement than a handshake. At the end of the day, if someone is no longer invested in the team, it's better for both parties if that person moves on.
@allandaniell7055
@allandaniell7055 Ай бұрын
I listen for 8 minutes and understood none of this jibber. This has happened. This could happened. This may happen. What is happening ?? Yep nothing to learn that’s new 🤷‍♂️
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce Ай бұрын
Sorry you feel that way. We don't claim to be in the know, only that we discuss what has been reported and speculate on what we think may or may not happen. We want this to be a place where you can also voice your thoughts as well, and we thank you for commenting. If it's not for you, that's okay.
@glengirot3087
@glengirot3087 23 күн бұрын
Barry is poison to the team. Betty should of show him the door 😮 Way before all this mess.. ( I do remember once Betty saying she would would the away to deserving person)
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce 23 күн бұрын
It very much presents this way.
@ronniebraine9692
@ronniebraine9692 Ай бұрын
They need to get rid of Barry.
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce Ай бұрын
From our understanding, he'll go with the sale of the team.
@tennesseethompson5287
@tennesseethompson5287 Ай бұрын
The Erebus brand is irreparably damaged, add Bad Barry to the T&C of the sale & either nobody will touch it, or Ado will hopefully buy it & immediately fire Bad Barry or it goes cheap! So sad to see bad management!
@eliasefo244
@eliasefo244 Ай бұрын
No surprise at all. She did to Shane years ago when Shane refused to drive for her because they changed their cars to a different Make She stopped Shane from driving for another Team. Shane decided to retire and after couple of months, he signed up with another Team.
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce Ай бұрын
It has been a trend since Erebus made the step into the category for sure.
@Ridingthecushion
@Ridingthecushion Ай бұрын
Haha what would use no haha
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce Ай бұрын
Thanks for your input, if “you” know something more, feel free to share it 😊
@davos4wdadventures
@davos4wdadventures Ай бұрын
So Betty is a mole??
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce Ай бұрын
In regards to? I wouldnt say she is a mole. She is a business woman who knows that if the business has become unviable then it's time to sell. She probably made a mistake with Barry, but you could argue he helped deliver a championship and a Bathurst victory.
@tennesseethompson5287
@tennesseethompson5287 Ай бұрын
Betty was a business women, now just “ a bad granny”
@jarnosaarinen4583
@jarnosaarinen4583 24 күн бұрын
Why say that, have you met Her? I doubt that or you'd never say that!
@tennesseethompson5287
@tennesseethompson5287 14 күн бұрын
@@jarnosaarinen4583 is she a nice person? Really and Ive met her, That said Betty let Barry of the leash & let the dog run wild. It’s nearly ruined many great drivers in the past!, now it’s finally ruined a good team. Sometimes things just don’t work out. “One bad apple can spoil the barrel” Barry is a bad apple 🍎
@recurringdreambusproject
@recurringdreambusproject 24 күн бұрын
You guys have no clue what went on, why are you making judgement when you don't know the facts? Brody would be nowhere without Erebus, did he build championship winning cars? he knew the ethos of the team was for them to be a team not a driver taking all the credit, how do you know it wasn't someone else using Brody to get Betty to sell? Betty spent the money and Barry built two cars that lead the field, that's some achievement, show some respect and some honesty and that advice goes for Brody as well.
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for your comment. Look, we never said we knew the ins and outs of the situation. In fact, we stated that you can never know exactly what is happening in any relationship. As for the team and Brodie. We have stated that Brodie brings a wealth of engineering understanding as well as his driving ability. That's not to say he is the sole reason for the team's success last year, but it is a strong contributing factor that can't be ignored. As for Brodie having something to do with the sale, I don't think he has anything to do with it. The situation is the mistreatment of Brodie, which lead to sponsors and team personal leaving. These are just some of the reasons that contribute to the potential Sale. Nobody is taking anything away from the team and the accomplishments they have achieved. They should be immensely proud of last year and the Bathurst victory with Davey. it's just unfortunate that the leader is allegedly the reason for the team's demise. We are here to discuss what has already been reported and give our opinion on the matter. That's all this is. If this isn't for you, thats okay, we appreciate that you took time to check in and comment.
@recurringdreambusproject
@recurringdreambusproject 24 күн бұрын
@@thevalvebounce And yet you're saying exactly that by making comments regarding "leadership" etc, where's your proof? now you say to me "if this isn't for you" why? because I disagree with what you say? you put your views out there, I responded with mine, isn't that what this is all about? look, I'm not an Erebus supporter but let me tell you I would not have the patience Betty has had with Brodie, he has single handedly destroyed everything gained last year, running a Supercars Team is extremely challenging and expensive then one person virtually destroys everything gained by his actions, until he stands up and explains exactly what those issues are and why he took the actions he did then in my book he takes responsibility for what has occurred, if you can't see that there is more behind this than a dissatisfaction with the management then perhaps you shouldn't be making content like this.
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce 24 күн бұрын
From our point of view, the “leadership” of Barry had been visible from a number of sources. Seeing how he reacts during the broadcasts, the Erebus documentary and now the latest issue where he has bullied AVL, a journalist doing their job, it’s a pretty good indication of his leadership style. Brodie’s fault in all of this is not wanting to be apart of the team and after multiple examples of them letting drivers go, Erebus seemed to have changed their minds. This is straight after releasing Brown by the way. We all have our opinions and we welcome yours as it’s great for our channel. The reason we said maybe it’s not for you was in case you couldn’t move past what we actually were saying rather than what you thought we were saying and that is, the evidence laid out all points to Barry being the point of concern rather than Brodie so that’s why we have the opinions we have.
@recurringdreambusproject
@recurringdreambusproject 24 күн бұрын
@@thevalvebounce And what? Brodie didn't know of Barry's reputation before he signed to drive with them? apparently it wasn't a problem till after he won the championship, he signed a contract, he's trying to get out of that contract, you have no clue what's behind it, it could be he has been offered a lot more than what he's contracted for at Erebus, it could be that Brodie has exploited a weakness in public perception for his own purpose, I don't know & you don't know it's pure speculation and that is all you are doing, speculating, what I'm saying is by doing so you are completely disrespecting Erebus and more specifically Betty who has invested a huge amount over many years and seems to be gaged by Brodies representatives on making any comment, just when she has finally achieve what many would consider an impossibility only to be cut off at the knees by one person who won't explain why, until Brodie is prepared to come clean and explain exactly why he has done what he has then public speculation as you have done here is both unreasonable and mis-leading which is why most major media sources have failed to go there, whatever you may say it won't influence my opinion.
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce 24 күн бұрын
We are not trying to influence your opinion, as you won’t influence ours. We agree that Betty has made huge investments into the sport and is a shining example of following your passions. We think you’re wrong on the Brodie assessment based on what we do know but there is a lot of unknowns and we have been pretty clear about which parts are speculation and which ones are not, including that without Brodie’s side of the issue we will never really know.
@WINZRacingBoss
@WINZRacingBoss Ай бұрын
You actually do own race teams to burn cash. No one team makes money from being a race team. Even 888 survives becuase of its race products and renting cars to race in other categories etc etc etc.. The whole series is fucked right now. And no sign of getting better
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce Ай бұрын
I don't agree with the series being ahh "fucked". I actually think it's started to put the processes in place for it to rebuild the damage it had occurred. As for burning cash. It's not like you or I in this instance. The teams are a fully fledged business, whether it be engineering or otherwise. They may not run to maximize profit, but they do still need to be self sustainable. Something that Erebus isn't anymore.
@allyearrounddeckspergolas9647
@allyearrounddeckspergolas9647 Ай бұрын
I hope peter addinton buys it from boost..
@thevalvebounce
@thevalvebounce Ай бұрын
Very unlikely unfortunately for the fans!
@WINZRacingBoss
@WINZRacingBoss Ай бұрын
Won't happen while Skaife and others are still bouncing their egos around the board room. Whole series is too toxic to him with current people and bullshit
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